{"id":663326,"date":"2010-02-12T20:16:21","date_gmt":"2010-02-13T01:16:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/firedoglake.com\/?p=66805"},"modified":"2026-10-04T10:33:30","modified_gmt":"2026-10-04T14:33:30","slug":"about-that-iraq-post","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/663326","title":{"rendered":"About That Iraq Post"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_66808\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"width: 310px\"><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-66808\" href=\"http:\/\/firedoglake.com\/2010\/02\/12\/about-that-iraq-post\/marinesecuritypatroliraq_dvidshub-flickr\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-66808\" title=\"MarineSecurityPatrolIraq_DVIDSHUB-Flickr\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/static1.firedoglake.com\/1\/files\/2010\/02\/MarineSecurityPatrolIraq_DVIDSHUB-Flickr-300x200.jpg?resize=300%2C200\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marine on security patrol around Combat Outpost Viking, Iraq (photo: DVIDSHUB via Flickr)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Since <a href=\"http:\/\/attackerman.firedoglake.com\/2010\/02\/11\/leaving-iraq-and-proud-of-it\/#Respond\">I got the shit beat out of me in comments<\/a>, let me try to refine what I meant to say. (I thought I said it this way, but I guess not.) I never ever would suggest that there is no &#8220;Iraq Syndrome&#8221; in terms of <em>PTSD<\/em>, which is all too painfully real. What I meant was that, very improbably, and in part because of Obama&#8217;s handling of the withdrawal, advocates of a less imperial or less militaristic foreign policy are not getting tarred with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tnr.com\/article\/the-other-vietnam-syndrome\">the dismissive suggestion that they suffer from an &#8220;Iraq Syndrome&#8221; as happened after Vietnam<\/a>. The idea that there was a &#8220;Vietnam Syndrome&#8221; afflicting peaceniks led to, among other things, the Second Iraq War. We appear to have dodged that bullet.<\/p>\n<p>For the commenter who sensibly asked what I think the lessons of Iraq are, as I&#8217;ve been writing for years on this blog and its predecessors: Time for a less imperial and less militaristic foreign policy. Never presume that you understand a foreign culture better than the locals. Never presume you should dominate a foreign culture. Never occupy another country, particularly not a Muslim country. (There&#8217;s a difference between the occupation of Iraq and military actions in Afghanistan, which are blessed by repeated resolutions of the UN Security Council.) Build the collective-security institutions of the international community to prevent conflict before it percolates. Do not demonize the opponents of war. How&#8217;s that for starters?<\/p>\n<p>Are we really going to get out of Iraq? From everything Obama has said, and indicated, about abiding by the SOFA: Yes, in every substantial way that matters. A big embassy staffed with maybe a couple hundred military and political advisers &#8212; and I&#8217;m just speculating, not reporting here &#8212; is probably <em>appropriate <\/em>given the scope of Iraq&#8217;s ongoing troubles. Is Blackwater going to stay? It&#8217;s an election year, but <a href=\"http:\/\/washingtonindependent.com\/76413\/iraq-to-blackwater-you-dont-have-to-go-home-but-you-cant-stay-here\">Interior Minister Jawad Bolani said just yesterday he wants to kick out everyone who even <\/a><em><a href=\"http:\/\/washingtonindependent.com\/76413\/iraq-to-blackwater-you-dont-have-to-go-home-but-you-cant-stay-here\">used<\/a><\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/washingtonindependent.com\/76413\/iraq-to-blackwater-you-dont-have-to-go-home-but-you-cant-stay-here\"> to work for Blackwater<\/a>. Can I see into the future? I can&#8217;t. But the evidence to date is pretty fucking positive. I would say I have <em>some<\/em> credibility here, having written a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prospect.org\/cs\/articles?article=war_in_iraq_2003\">4000-word investigative report in 2006 about base construction in Iraq<\/a>; we&#8217;re leaving those bases now.<\/p>\n<p>And to anyone who questions my integrity: sorry guys, I write this shit because I mean it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"akst_link\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" height=\"16\" width=\"16\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/attackerman.firedoglake.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/share-this\/share-icon-16x16.gif?resize=16%2C16\" alt=\"Share This icon\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/firedoglake.com\/?p=66805&amp;akst_action=share-this\"  title=\"Email, post to del.icio.us, etc.\" id=\"akst_link_66805\" class=\"akst_share_link\" rel=\"noindex nofollow\">&nbsp;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Marine on security patrol around Combat Outpost Viking, Iraq (photo: DVIDSHUB via Flickr) Since I got the shit beat out of me in comments, let me try to refine what I meant to say. (I thought I said it this way, but I guess not.) I never ever would suggest that there is no &#8220;Iraq [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2762,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4821],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-663326","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9NivD-2MyO","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/663326","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2762"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=663326"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/663326\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":764983,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/663326\/revisions\/764983"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=663326"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=663326"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mereja.com\/index\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=663326"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}