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Journalist Khashoggi's Apple Watch recorded alleged murder

Post by Awash » 13 Oct 2018, 14:03

...CNN intelligence and security analyst Robert Baer told Anderson Cooper 360 he believes any audio recordings from inside the consulate could only have come from equipment the Turkish government placed inside the building.

"I think what's happened, clearly, is the Turks have the Saudi consulate wired, they have transmitters," Baer said.

"The Turks don't trust any diplomats and they have been into most embassies and most consulates in Turkey and they listen to what's going on -- and if indeed there are tapes proving that he was murdered, I think that's probably how they know. But the Turks are very reluctant to admit that."

A former Turkish diplomat with knowledge of Turkey's security operations said he agreed with Baer. 
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/10/13/middle ... gle.com%2F
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Re: Why claim Khashoggi's Apple Watch recorded alleged murder is unlikely

Post by Awash » 13 Oct 2018, 15:39

Claims of state-sanctioned hit trigger crisis for Saudi Arabia

...Inside the kingdom, where a crackdown on dissent has left much of society unwilling to speak publicly, there is widespread belief that Khashoggi’s disappearance was indeed a conspiracy orchestrated by its enemies. Some former security officials, however, sense that it may instead mark a crack in the new regime.

“The realignment of the [national intelligence service reporting directly to MbS] has been a disaster,” said an adviser to one such official. “It has become a hyper-political tool for the diwan … that has removed any semblance of accountability and encouraged abuse of power on a scale I have not witnessed before in modern times. There has been a broad descent into authoritarianism. The scale and pace of repression have destroyed any embryonic seeds of civil society and discourse. There really is no limit to the consequences of even polite disagreement, let alone dissent.”

With much of Turkey’s evidence against Saudi Arabia now publicly laid bare, Ankara – and Riyadh – are both turning to Washington to find a way out of a crisis with seemingly endless dimensions. Turkey on Friday agreed to a joint probe with Riyadh into what took place – an arrangement that was brokered by senior officials, suggesting power politics may end up taking precedence over the truth behind Khashoggi’s disappearance.

Turkey does not need investigative help to establish Khashoggi’s fate. Listening devices and camera footage, which it has not yet revealed, offer incriminating evidence. It does, however, need political cover to navigate a problem that could have significant trade and investment considerations.

Riyadh faces a more imminent blow to its trade agenda, with an investment conference set for 23 October at risk of a boycott from media partners and high-profile global companies, in protest at the lack of answers from Saudi officials.

“They have belatedly realised the stakes in this,” said one of the British officials at the 2016 meeting with the crown prince. “And he has been shocked to learn that the absolute power he has at home he doesn’t have abroad. Even in Turkey there are rules. Putin learned the same in the UK. And if this guy is going to survive this, he is going to be indebted to Ankara and Turkey for sparing everyone from the shocking truth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... ggi-chulov

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Re: Journalist Khashoggi's Apple Watch recorded alleged murder

Post by Awash » 13 Oct 2018, 16:58

Saudi Journalist's Disappearance Strains Turkey-Saudi Relations
'Carefully calibrated'

...For their part, Saudis continue to travel to Turkey and buy property, enjoying the country's close link to Europe and its conservative Sunni Muslim outlook. Over the last 15 years, money from the Persian Gulf has accounted for some nine percent of total foreign direct investments in Turkey, with Saudi Arabia believed to be a majority part of that.

That has seen Erdogan take a carefully calibrated approach to the Khashoggi crisis, allowing anonymous security service leaks to advance Ankara's allegation that Saudi officials killed the journalist while himself saying he hopes for cooperation. A joint Saudi-Turkish investigative team has begun exploring Khashoggi's disappearance this weekend, which marks the writer's 60th birthday.

"Turkey is fully aware of the economic situation it finds itself in, and the problematic wider region it engages heavily in," said H.A. Hellyer, a senior nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council and the Royal United Services Institute in London.

"A complete disruption of relations with Riyadh is not what it needs, nor what it wants," Hellyer said. "Which is presumably why Ankara is giving Riyadh a way to minimize damage via this joint working group."
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... -1.6552236

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