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Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Fiyameta » 12 Dec 2024, 16:24

“You won’t leave this room until you reach a deal,” Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said during the negotiations.

Abiy was willing to sign a statement committing to Somalia’s independence and sovereignty, he resisted any mention of “territorial integrity” or “unity”.

The Somali delegation countered by referencing the 1933 Montevideo Convention, which codifies international legal norms and principles regarding statehood. One of its key criteria for statehood is the possession of a “defined territory”.

“You cannot say you recognize a country but deny that it has a defined territory,” argued the Somali delegation.

Turkish officials found this argument persuasive, concluding that Ethiopia must either recognize Somalia in its entirety under international law or not at all. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/insi ... iopia-deal



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Re: Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Mesob » 12 Dec 2024, 16:38

ፊንጣጣ is angry like Issaias Afeworki, because Somalia just killed the Egypt-Eritrea-Somalia Defense pact that was signed few weeks ago in Asmara.


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Re: Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Fiyameta » 12 Dec 2024, 17:12

Banda Abiy Ahmed refused to recognize Somalia's “territorial integrity” and “unity”, because that's what his masters pay him for -- to occupy, destabilize and dismember Somalia. :x :x


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Re: Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Fiyameta » 12 Dec 2024, 20:48

So... why did Banda Abiy Ahmed say he does NOT recognize Somalia's “territorial integrity” and “unity”? :|

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Re: Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Abdisa » 13 Dec 2024, 01:09

What a shame! A low down dirty shame!

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Re: Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Meleket » 13 Dec 2024, 04:24

እላይ የተያያዘውን ይህን “ሊንክ” https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/insi ... iopia-deal ቦርቀቅ አድርገን ስናየው እንዲህም ብሏል።


Hours of negotiations later, Somalia and Ethiopia finally reached a final agreement, known as the Ankara Declaration, that addressed the core demands of both. Somalia secured Ethiopia’s recognition of its territorial unity, while Ethiopia was granted commercial access to the Somali coastline.

The declaration also stipulated that technical delegations from both nations, facilitated by Turkey, would begin negotiations no later than February 2025, with a deadline to complete the talks within four months. Turkish officials hailed the deal as a victory for both sides.

'Win-win agreement'
Ebuzer Demirci, a regional expert, noted that Somalia has emerged as achieving several deals.

“Somalia, earlier this year, signed a comprehensive naval and energy deal with Turkey to guard its waters and establish a naval force with Ankara’s help,” Demirci said. “Mogadishu leveraged the Somaliland MoU to its advantage.”

The reasoning behind Abiy's concessions may be twofold.

Tom Gardner, an Africa correspondent for The Economist, suggested that Abiy was under significant diplomatic pressure from the United States to resolve the crisis.

'This deal still provides Abiy Ahmed with access to the sea, and it makes sense for the Ethiopian market to be connected to the Somali coast'
- Omar Mahmood, analyst


“The US is concerned about the implications for security and peacekeeping in Somalia, particularly in the fight against al-Shabab [an al-Qaeda-affiliated militant group],” Gardner explained, noting that Ethiopia is a key contributor to African peacekeeping forces.

Under the new deal, Somalia confirmed that Ethiopian troops would remain in the country.

The situation was further complicated by Somaliland’s recent presidential elections, which shifted the political landscape. Somaliland’s new president, Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi, is reportedly less amenable to Abiy than his predecessor.

“Somaliland senses it might get a better offer, possibly in the form of recognition from the next US administration,” Gardner added. The news website Semafor reported this week that the incoming Donald Trump administration is already considering recognising the breakaway state.

Some analysts argue that Abiy achieved his primary objective, as he has long sought to address Ethiopia’s landlocked status. By triggering the crisis, he forced the issue to the forefront and secured a deal granting Ethiopia access to the Somali coast.

“It’s a sort of win-win agreement,” said Omar Mahmood, a senior analyst for Eastern Africa at Crisis Group. “This deal still provides Abiy Ahmed with access to the sea, and it makes sense for the Ethiopian market to be connected to the Somali coast.”

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/insi ... iopia-deal




ወደ ቁምነገሩ ስንመለስ፦ ሁለቱም ኣካላት አደራዳሪያቸውም፡ በምርጫ የሚያምኑ፡ በህዝብ ድምጽ የተመረጡ፡ በህገ መንግስት የሚያምኑ ኣካላት ናቸው ወይስ ኣይደሉም? የሚለው ጥያቄ መመለስ ኣለበት? ቦተሊካው ይሄ ነው ኣይደለም እንዴ? ሌላው እንዲሁ መነጫነጭ ብቻ ነው የሚሆነው። ልንል ነበር፡ ግን ተውነው!

ራሻ በልዑላዊት ሃገር በዩክሬን ላይ ያደረገችውን ወረራ ሳታወግዝ፡ የኢትዮጵያን በሰላማዊና በዲፕሎማሲያዊ መንገድ ለሃገራዊ ጥቅሟ የምታደርገውን “ስልጡን” ኣካሄድ ለማንቋሸሽ መሞከር “ድርብ ዕያር” የሚያስብል “መንታ ልብነት” ነው። አይደለም እንዴ? ብለን እናስቃችሁ እንጂ?



የሰላሙ ተሸላሚ የኢትዮጵያ ጠቅላይ ደግሞ፡ "እንጠቃቀም በጋራ እንደግ" አሉ እንጂ፡ "በሃይል የሰው ሃገር በወረራ ይዘን ወደብ እናገኛል" ሲሉ ኣልተደመጡም። "በውይይትና በሰላም ባህሩን ለጋራ እድገት፡ ሰጥቶ በመቀበል፡ ያለንን ሰጥተን የሌለንን ተቀብለን፡ በፍቅር እንኑር በስልጡን መንገድ እንጠቀምበት" ነው መቋጫ ቃላቸው። "ይህ ካልሆነ የባህሩ ውሃ ዝም ብሎ በጸሃይ ቢተን ምን ትርጉም ኣለው?" ኣላሉም እንጂ ቢሉም ያምርባቸዋል የሰላሙ ተሸላሚ። “ሁላችንም ኣፍሪካውያን ያውም የአዳም ልጆች ነን። አፍሪካውያን በጋራ ሰርተን በጋራ ካላደግን ታዲያ መሰባሰባችን ምን ቁምነገር ኣለው?" ኣላሉም እንጂ ቢሉ ያምርባቸዋል። ተጠላልፎ መውደቅ መቼም እድገትን ኣያመጣም ኣይደለም እንዴ? እስቲ ትንሽ ተንጨርጨሩ ተንጨርጫሪ ተራ ካድሬዎችና “ጭር ሲል የማትወዱት” የግርግር አርበኞችና የጦርነት ጥቅመኞች (ጦ.ጥ.)።


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Re: Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Meleket » 14 Dec 2024, 04:00

Meleket wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 04:24
እላይ የተያያዘውን ይህን “ሊንክ” https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/insi ... iopia-deal ቦርቀቅ አድርገን ስናየው እንዲህም ብሏል።


Hours of negotiations later, Somalia and Ethiopia finally reached a final agreement, known as the Ankara Declaration, that addressed the core demands of both. Somalia secured Ethiopia’s recognition of its territorial unity, while Ethiopia was granted commercial access to the Somali coastline.

The declaration also stipulated that technical delegations from both nations, facilitated by Turkey, would begin negotiations no later than February 2025, with a deadline to complete the talks within four months. Turkish officials hailed the deal as a victory for both sides.

'Win-win agreement'
Ebuzer Demirci, a regional expert, noted that Somalia has emerged as achieving several deals.

“Somalia, earlier this year, signed a comprehensive naval and energy deal with Turkey to guard its waters and establish a naval force with Ankara’s help,” Demirci said. “Mogadishu leveraged the Somaliland MoU to its advantage.”

The reasoning behind Abiy's concessions may be twofold.

Tom Gardner, an Africa correspondent for The Economist, suggested that Abiy was under significant diplomatic pressure from the United States to resolve the crisis.

'This deal still provides Abiy Ahmed with access to the sea, and it makes sense for the Ethiopian market to be connected to the Somali coast'
- Omar Mahmood, analyst


“The US is concerned about the implications for security and peacekeeping in Somalia, particularly in the fight against al-Shabab [an al-Qaeda-affiliated militant group],” Gardner explained, noting that Ethiopia is a key contributor to African peacekeeping forces.

Under the new deal, Somalia confirmed that Ethiopian troops would remain in the country.

The situation was further complicated by Somaliland’s recent presidential elections, which shifted the political landscape. Somaliland’s new president, Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi, is reportedly less amenable to Abiy than his predecessor.

“Somaliland senses it might get a better offer, possibly in the form of recognition from the next US administration,” Gardner added. The news website Semafor reported this week that the incoming Donald Trump administration is already considering recognising the breakaway state.

Some analysts argue that Abiy achieved his primary objective, as he has long sought to address Ethiopia’s landlocked status. By triggering the crisis, he forced the issue to the forefront and secured a deal granting Ethiopia access to the Somali coast.

“It’s a sort of win-win agreement,” said Omar Mahmood, a senior analyst for Eastern Africa at Crisis Group. “This deal still provides Abiy Ahmed with access to the sea, and it makes sense for the Ethiopian market to be connected to the Somali coast.”

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/insi ... iopia-deal




ወደ ቁምነገሩ ስንመለስ፦ ሁለቱም ኣካላት አደራዳሪያቸውም፡ በምርጫ የሚያምኑ፡ በህዝብ ድምጽ የተመረጡ፡ በህገ መንግስት የሚያምኑ ኣካላት ናቸው ወይስ ኣይደሉም? የሚለው ጥያቄ መመለስ ኣለበት? ቦተሊካው ይሄ ነው ኣይደለም እንዴ? ሌላው እንዲሁ መነጫነጭ ብቻ ነው የሚሆነው። ልንል ነበር፡ ግን ተውነው!

ራሻ በልዑላዊት ሃገር በዩክሬን ላይ ያደረገችውን ወረራ ሳታወግዝ፡ የኢትዮጵያን በሰላማዊና በዲፕሎማሲያዊ መንገድ ለሃገራዊ ጥቅሟ የምታደርገውን “ስልጡን” ኣካሄድ ለማንቋሸሽ መሞከር “ድርብ ዕያር” የሚያስብል “መንታ ልብነት” ነው። አይደለም እንዴ? ብለን እናስቃችሁ እንጂ?



የሰላሙ ተሸላሚ የኢትዮጵያ ጠቅላይ ደግሞ፡ "እንጠቃቀም በጋራ እንደግ" አሉ እንጂ፡ "በሃይል የሰው ሃገር በወረራ ይዘን ወደብ እናገኛል" ሲሉ ኣልተደመጡም። "በውይይትና በሰላም ባህሩን ለጋራ እድገት፡ ሰጥቶ በመቀበል፡ ያለንን ሰጥተን የሌለንን ተቀብለን፡ በፍቅር እንኑር በስልጡን መንገድ እንጠቀምበት" ነው መቋጫ ቃላቸው። "ይህ ካልሆነ የባህሩ ውሃ ዝም ብሎ በጸሃይ ቢተን ምን ትርጉም ኣለው?" ኣላሉም እንጂ ቢሉም ያምርባቸዋል የሰላሙ ተሸላሚ። “ሁላችንም ኣፍሪካውያን ያውም የአዳም ልጆች ነን። አፍሪካውያን በጋራ ሰርተን በጋራ ካላደግን ታዲያ መሰባሰባችን ምን ቁምነገር ኣለው?" ኣላሉም እንጂ ቢሉ ያምርባቸዋል። ተጠላልፎ መውደቅ መቼም እድገትን ኣያመጣም ኣይደለም እንዴ? እስቲ ትንሽ ተንጨርጨሩ ተንጨርጫሪ ተራ ካድሬዎችና “ጭር ሲል የማትወዱት” የግርግር አርበኞችና የጦርነት ጥቅመኞች (ጦ.ጥ.)።
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Re: Turkiye's President Erdogan Scolded Abiy Ahmed Like a Bad Child ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post by Abdisa » 14 Dec 2024, 11:52

We have 20,000 troops in Somalia, most of them from the Tigray region, hired by the European Union to occupy the country. If these troops were to be deported back to Tigray, it will spike the unemployment rate in Ethiopia. We need to find new ways to create employment opportunities for young Tigrayans, because mercenary work is increasingly becoming obsolete in this day and age.

Another thing we should be worried about is the culture of betrayal that has gripped Ethiopia for centuries, dating back to the feudal era, where ethnic feudal warlords vying to become top mercenaries betrayed each other and carried out assassinations against their opponents, which continues to be the modus operandi of today's Ethiopian warlords wearing 3-piece suits, and unfortunately, there are some among us who equate betrayal with "cleverness" despite such behavior is dragging our country back to the stone age.

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