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by Somaliman » 24 Aug 2024, 16:49
Zack wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 15:31
Jikaar is that true are u from western Somalia ama Somali galbeed , instead of somaliland. That changes allot of things why are u pretending to be from Somaliland there is nothing wrong with being from Somali galbeed I am also from Somali galbeed in particular shinile region.
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He's ducking out of answering to you. If he ever tries to reply to you, he would hide behind lengthy irrelevant gibberish, rather than answering to you directly.
I thought you knew that he was from Somalia Galbeed. He has clearly said it himself X times inadvertently..
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by Horus » 24 Aug 2024, 17:42
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by Wordpad » 25 Aug 2024, 13:26
It is funny that Jikaar the ethiopian Idoor is talking to Horus the miskeen Gurage. Both are irrelevant minorities in failed state of Ethiopia
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by Somaliman » 25 Aug 2024, 13:47
Wordpad wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 13:26
It is funny that Jikaar the ethiopian Idoor is talking to Horus the miskeen Gurage. Both are irrelevant minorities in failed state of Ethiopia
All he parrots is pure nonsense and Somali this, Somalia that, even though it's in the name of Somalia that he's comfortably living in the West. The idiot even thinks "Faqash" is a clan or refers to a clan.
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by Jikaar » 25 Aug 2024, 14:05
Zack wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 15:31
Jikaar is that true are u from western Somalia ama Somali galbeed , instead of somaliland. That changes allot of things why are u pretending to be from Somaliland there is nothing wrong with being from Somali galbeed I am also from Somali galbeed in particular shinile region.
Dr Zackovich
You are ciise
I am isaaq
And he is faqash. There is no such thing as Somali galbeed.
You are against me because of port issues. He is against me because he has always been my eternal enemy. The difference is we Absolutely do not want any thing to do with the faqash. Zero chance. But We Have nothing against Djibouti. You are only after your interests. I am after my own interests. I don't give fk of the somalis or the Ethiopians.
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by Jikaar » 25 Aug 2024, 14:16
Somaliman wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 13:47
Wordpad wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 13:26
It is funny that Jikaar the ethiopian Idoor is talking to Horus the miskeen Gurage. Both are irrelevant minorities in failed state of Ethiopia
All he parrots is pure nonsense and Somali this, Somalia that, even though it's in the name of Somalia that he's comfortably living in the West. The idiot even thinks "Faqash" is a clan or refers to a clan.
Yes faqash is clan. And that's daarood. And you have always been the enemies of Somaliland. All this anti Ethiopia rants coming from you is just smoke screen. You just hate to see Somaliland making any progress politically or economically. Let's call spade a spade. This is the horn of Africa. There is no love between any of us. 99% of Ethiopians don't even care about Ethiopia.
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by Somaliman » 25 Aug 2024, 16:07
The word "faqash", is just a fictive word, which hasn't got any proper, real, authentic, or grammatical meaning whatsoever, and has nothing to do with a clan. The connotation that's inculcated into infant minds of the youth in the north has nothing to do with its original reference.
I would only explain this in detail to Zack, if requested, as I said to you in the past that I would not discuss with little tribalism infested scumbags.
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by Zack » 25 Aug 2024, 17:14
Jikaar wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 14:05
Zack wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 15:31
Jikaar is that true are u from western Somalia ama Somali galbeed , instead of somaliland. That changes allot of things why are u pretending to be from Somaliland there is nothing wrong with being from Somali galbeed I am also from Somali galbeed in particular shinile region.
Dr Zackovich
You are ciise
I am isaaq
And he is faqash. There is no such thing as Somali galbeed.
You are against me because of port issues. He is against me because he has always been my eternal enemy. The difference is we Absolutely do not want any thing to do with the faqash. Zero chance. But We Have nothing against Djibouti. You are only after your interests. I am after my own interests. I don't give fk of the somalis or the Ethiopians.
Well we in Djibouti can never accept Ethiopia having access to the sea, that’s a red line for us .
How ever we have nothing against Somaliland or it’s people. We wish to see a United Somalia . But if u wish to separate its for you and somaliman to discuss I have no dog in this fight isaga ka dhamayso isaga ayaad wax isku darsateen.
But keep in ur mind Ethiopia is not after lease or port for bussines its after annexation u should believe that .
I have known Ethiopians for decades
Dr Zackovich
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by Somaliman » 25 Aug 2024, 17:52
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 17:14
Jikaar wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 14:05
Zack wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 15:31
Jikaar is that true are u from western Somalia ama Somali galbeed , instead of somaliland. That changes allot of things why are u pretending to be from Somaliland there is nothing wrong with being from Somali galbeed I am also from Somali galbeed in particular shinile region.
Dr Zackovich
You are ciise
I am isaaq
And he is faqash. There is no such thing as Somali galbeed.
You are against me because of port issues. He is against me because he has always been my eternal enemy. The difference is we Absolutely do not want any thing to do with the faqash. Zero chance. But We Have nothing against Djibouti. You are only after your interests. I am after my own interests. I don't give fk of the somalis or the Ethiopians.
Well we in Djibouti can never accept Ethiopia having access to the sea, that’s a red line for us .
How ever we have nothing against Somaliland or it’s people. We wish to see a United Somalia . But if u wish to separate its for you and somaliman to discuss I have no dog in this fight isaga ka dhamayso isaga ayaad wax isku darsateen.
But keep in ur mind Ethiopia is not after lease or port for bussines its after annexation u should believe that .
I have known Ethiopians for decades
Dr Zackovich
If you believe that Somaliland issue is between Somalis from Somalia, then, his childish ar'se has nothing to fa'rt about in this respect, as he's from Ethiopia, like yourself, and that we're not talking about an Isaaqland, which doesn't exist. This dummy has no more rights in Somaliland than yourself, as he's linking his ignorant ar'se to this region only from a tribal affiliation, as he's from Ethiopia.
However, the issue on this mindless region is the least of issues among Somalis from the rest of the country, as it has reached a final impasse. There's nothing more to discuss; time will sort this out.
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by Zack » 25 Aug 2024, 18:14
For us the most important thing is to stop Ethiopia from annexing any part of Somalia that should be the major concern and the thing is to safe guard the Somali interest . Other issues such powersharing and peaceful Co existence between the various Somali clans should be encouraged at all cost , that is the only way to achieve our goals indeed.
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by Jikaar » 25 Aug 2024, 18:16
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 17:14
Jikaar wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 14:05
Zack wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024, 15:31
Jikaar is that true are u from western Somalia ama Somali galbeed , instead of somaliland. That changes allot of things why are u pretending to be from Somaliland there is nothing wrong with being from Somali galbeed I am also from Somali galbeed in particular shinile region.
Dr Zackovich
You are ciise
I am isaaq
And he is faqash. There is no such thing as Somali galbeed.
You are against me because of port issues. He is against me because he has always been my eternal enemy. The difference is we Absolutely do not want any thing to do with the faqash. Zero chance. But We Have nothing against Djibouti. You are only after your interests. I am after my own interests. I don't give fk of the somalis or the Ethiopians.
Well we in Djibouti can never accept Ethiopia having access to the sea, that’s a red line for us .
How ever we have nothing against Somaliland or it’s people. We wish to see a United Somalia . But if u wish to separate its for you and somaliman to discuss I have no dog in this fight isaga ka dhamayso isaga ayaad wax isku darsateen.
But keep in ur mind Ethiopia is not after lease or port for bussines its after annexation u should believe that .
I have known Ethiopians for decades
Dr Zackovich
You have your red line , I have mine. Any problem between you and Ethiopia is none of my business.
Just keep in mind Somaliland has its own goals and aspirations. And we don't take permission from any one to pursue our interests. We basically don't give a fk of Ethiopia, Somalia or Djibouti. I am just minding my own business. If you scratch my back I scratch yours. No matter if you are Djiboutian. Chinese or Ethiopian.
All I can tell you is we isaaqs share no common interests with the faqash. We don't even pray in the same mosque. Our issues is beyond politics. It's fundamental. And they are our number one enemies. We Somalianders don't sugar coat any thing. Hypocrisy is not in our dictionary.
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by Zack » 25 Aug 2024, 18:31
You are being irrational there dear lad, there is no conflict there if hawiye and darood managed to reconcile. I don’t see how isaaq and darood cannot reconcile , there is no religious or fundamental issues Somalis differ from each other apart from alshabaab. That’s a whole different subject on its own .
So what is your red line I told you reer djiboutis red line
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by Jikaar » 25 Aug 2024, 18:41
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 18:31
You are being irrational there dear lad, there is no conflict there if hawiye and darood managed to reconcile. I don’t see how isaaq and darood cannot reconcile , there is no religious or fundamental issues Somalis differ from each other apart from alshabaab. That’s a whole different subject on its own .
So what is your red line I told you reer djiboutis red line
Dr Zackovich
You are Somali too. Why don't you join them. I don't consider my self a Somalian citizen. I have no one village In Somalia. I have nothing against hawiye. And nothing to do with the faqash. In fact we share more in common with you or the Ethiopians. My red line is very clear. Never try to disrespect me. You can't erase my country and expect me to join a none existing one.
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by Jikaar » 25 Aug 2024, 18:49
Instead of taking long flights to Mogadishu above me every day. Take your fking land rover car and let's see on the ground to discuss our common interests. That's my sincere advice to you .
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by Somaliman » 25 Aug 2024, 19:02
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 18:31
You are being irrational there dear lad, there is no conflict there if hawiye and darood managed to reconcile. I don’t see how isaaq and darood cannot reconcile , there is no religious or fundamental issues Somalis differ from each other apart from alshabaab. That’s a whole different subject on its own .
So what is your red line I told you reer djiboutis red line
Dr Zackovich
FYI, there has never been any conflict between Daarood and Hawiye, or Daarood and Isaaq, or between any other clans. Frictions between sub sub clans living in the same area has always existed in nomadic societies around the world. I thought you knew stuff better than this. There has never been a reconciliation between Hawiye and Daarood, as there has never been any conflict between them as tribes.
Please stop believing this little scumbag kid infested by tribalism talking outta his ar'se.
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by Zack » 25 Aug 2024, 19:08
What exactly are you referring to, and with whom should I be discussing this matter? I must admit, I'm rather unclear on the subject at hand.
You asked me why Djibouti, or my particular clan, cannot join Somalia. Once upon a time, there was indeed a Pan-Somali movement in Djibouti that fervently aspired to this very union. However, Somalia has never formally extended an invitation for us to join, though we would not have opposed it. We, the people of Djibouti, regard Somalia as our closest kin. For instance, you and Somaliman are far closer to me than an Afar, despite sharing Djiboutian nationality.
I have a solution for your problem you allow Sool and sanaag join Somalia
you can then take Woqoyi galbeed and togdheer and make it a country and Somalia should grant independence and recogntion to your new country.
On one condition that Awdal Gets the decision to Join Somalia or Djibouti
then we solve this matter
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by Zack » 25 Aug 2024, 19:12
Somaliman wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 19:02
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 18:31
You are being irrational there dear lad, there is no conflict there if hawiye and darood managed to reconcile. I don’t see how isaaq and darood cannot reconcile , there is no religious or fundamental issues Somalis differ from each other apart from alshabaab. That’s a whole different subject on its own .
So what is your red line I told you reer djiboutis red line
Dr Zackovich
FYI, there has never been any conflict between Daarood and Hawiye, or Daarood and Isaaq, or between any other clans. Frictions between sub sub clans living in the same area has always existed in nomadic societies around the world. I thought you knew stuff better than this. There has never been a reconciliation between Hawiye and Daarood, as there has never been any conflict between them as tribes.
Please stop believing this little scumbag kid infested by tribalism talking outta his ar'se.
I agree that there has never been a formal reconciliation between the Hawiye and Darood clans, yet it seems they have, in practice, reconciled without any official process. This is indeed a fact, and you are correct in stating that there were conflicts between the Darood and Hawiye throughout the 1990s. I am not well-versed in the specific sub-clans involved or the intricate details of these conflicts, whether they were connected to the late Muhammad Siyad Barre and his government officials, or to clan-based rebel groups. However, I can confirm that your assertion is entirely accurate: the Darood and Hawiye did not come together to explicitly declare reconciliation, but rather, it appears they have naturally reconciled without a formal agreement. I hope that makes sense.
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by Jikaar » 25 Aug 2024, 19:15
I have a solution . you join your brothers In Somalia and let the afar to have the decision to join Ethiopia or Eritrea.
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by Zack » 25 Aug 2024, 19:25
Jikaar wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 19:15
I have a solution . you join your brothers In Somalia and let the afar to have the decision to join Ethiopia or Eritrea.
Here again red line we cant allow Ethiopia to have access to our seas whether in Djibouti or Somalia thats the red line
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by Jikaar » 25 Aug 2024, 19:28
Somaliman wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 19:02
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 18:31
You are being irrational there dear lad, there is no conflict there if hawiye and darood managed to reconcile. I don’t see how isaaq and darood cannot reconcile , there is no religious or fundamental issues Somalis differ from each other apart from alshabaab. That’s a whole different subject on its own .
So what is your red line I told you reer djiboutis red line
Dr Zackovich
FYI, there has never been any conflict between Daarood and Hawiye, or Daarood and Isaaq, or between any other clans. Frictions between sub sub clans living in the same area has always existed in nomadic societies around the world. I thought you knew stuff better than this. There has never been a reconciliation between Hawiye and Daarood, as there has never been any conflict between them as tribes.
Please stop believing this little scumbag kid infested by tribalism talking outta his ar'se.
We have been at odds against the faqash daaroods or jebertis for at least the last 2 centuries. In fact we have been fighting the whole 2023 year. After you invaded our territory to take over your faqash minority towns. Thinking like those faqash villages are very important for the Somaliland existence. The whole thing backfired and we turned it into an international crisis.