Mereja Forum

[Horus]

Egyptian foray into the complex Somalia and Horn of Africa could be a hidden blessing for Ethiopia.

To begin with, it will hasten the conclusion of Ethio-Somaliland strategic treaty.

It will clarify the ambitions and policies of each every player in the region

USA, Russia, China, EU; Israel, Turkey, UAE, Egypt, Qatar, Iran etc; Ethiopia, Sudan, S. Sudan, DJibouti, Eritrea, & the 10 Nile states

ALL SORTS OF COLLUSION AND CONTENTIONS ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE BETWEEN AND AMONG THESE PLAYERS!!

It is funny Somalia does not trust Turkey to guard Hassan Sheik's palace!! Of course he does not trust Somali guards!!!

Most importantly, Ethiopia would be able to clearly see her core existential enemies and will begin to behave accordingly.

NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION. WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU WILL MAKE STRONGER!

SOONER OR LATER ETHIOPIA AND EGYPT MUST FACE OFF EACH OTHER & EGYPT MUST BE SHOWN TO ACCEPT AND RESPECT THE ETHIOPIAN REALITY. ETHIOPIA IS HERE TO STAY, NOT ONLY STAY BUT BECOME A GREAT NATION!!

[Somaliman]

[Horus]

EGYPT WILL NO MORE CONTROL THE GREAT AFRICAN NILE RIVER!! HERE IS WHY!

AND IF SOMALIA DOES NOT BEHAVE & CONTINUE TO BE ETHIOPIA'S EXISTENTIAL ENEMY, WE WILL DAM WABE SHABALLE RIVER!

[Horus]

THE DEEPENING SOMALIA CRISIS - EGYPT HER WATER CARRIER SOMALIA! THE EPIC ETHIO-EGYPTIAN STRUGGLE BEGINS!!

[Wordpad]

Ethiopia is a failed state. it no longer exists.

The horn of Africa needs Egypt for peace.
Egypt will protect both Somalia and failed state of Ethiopia. It is the regional power in the horn of Africa.

[Zack]

There is nothing Ethiopia can do ,,The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) has unmistakably been undermined by the actions of Egypt and Somalia. If Ethiopia has been unable to effectuate its provisions over the past six months, it is improbable that they will succeed in the coming months. Somalia has even escalated tensions by threatening to halt Ethiopian Airlines' operations across the nation.

What further leverage does Ethiopia possess? The Ethiopian mission within Somalia is nearing its conclusion, and while Egyptian involvement has yet to commence, it is anticipated that Egyptian forces may soon be deployed to Somalia . Ethiopia finds itself in a precarious position, with its options increasingly limited and its strategic maneuvers restricted.


Dr Zackovich

[Jikaar]

Forget about the MoU Mr horus, you hesitated too much and we don't deal with cowards.

[Horus]

Forget about the MoU Mr horus, you hesitated too much and we don't deal with cowards.

Jikaar,

What are your facts? You are being frustrated by the complicated diplomacy and power dynamics. I can see that. But remember, this is not about anger and impetuosity. Can't you see the kind of forces lined up against Ethiopia and the MOU? Consider UK. They sort of support the MOU, but demand Abiy make peace with Amara & Oromo first. You can see why, If Ethiopia starts war with Egypt, we need a nationally unified position to fight back. Don't overlook the internal weakness of Abiy's regime. My view is that Muse Bihi understand all of these barriers.

[Somaliman]

Forget about the MoU Mr horus, you hesitated too much and we don't deal with cowards.

Jikaar,

What are your facts? You are being frustrated by the complicated diplomacy and power dynamics. I can see that. But remember, this is not about anger and impetuosity. Can't you see the kind of forces lined up against Ethiopia and the MOU? Consider UK. They sort of support the MOU, but demand Abiy make peace with Amara & Oromo first. You can see why, If Ethiopia starts war with Egypt, we need a nationally unified position to fight back. Don't overlook the internal weakness of Abiy's regime. My view is that Muse Bihi understand all of these barriers.

What are your facts?

You're really funny!

You should be the last person to ask other people for their facts. Where are your facts for the bullsh'it you're posting on a daily basis?

[Zack]

Jikaar come back to the fold of Somalia
They have no intention to recognise ur state what they want is annexation if you give them a sea out let they want to claim it and annex it , what ever issue u have with ur brothers it can be solved we the issa people support peace between Mogadishu and hargeisa , and then collectively we can cement our brotherhood and get rid of these Ethiopians not only from main land Somalia but also from the kilil Somali they occupy currently , don’t trust this gurage laangaab


Dr Zackovich

[Wordpad]

Monkey Horus too - we will implement the MOU today. The monkey now says, Ethiopia is a failed state and in civil war. Somalia and Egypt too strong we need more time

I love this monkey

[Horus]

Beggar ERie,
Why don't you take of your homeless folks suffering in EU!!! Back in January I had stated that Abiy needed to get out Amhara to be successful on the Red Sea front. But remember, ሞት ቢዘገይ የቀረ ይመስላታል!!! ቀይ ባህር ያቢይ አላማ አይደለም! የመላ ኢትዮጵያዊ አላማ ነው ልክ እንደ አባይ ግድብ! ግብጽ በሚመለክት ሱማሌ መግባታቸው በጣም ነው የወደድኩት!! አሁን ኢትዮጵያ የግብጽን ሆያ ሆዬ ድባቅ ስታደርግ ተከታተል ። ዞሮ ዞሮ የኢትዮጵያ ቀይ ባህራዊነት አለም የተቀበለው መብታችን ነው!! እንዴት ይፈጸማል ? ያ ለኛ ተዉት ጨዋታው ገና መጀመሩ ስለሆነ!!!!

[Jikaar]

Jikaar come back to the fold of Somalia
They have no intention to recognise ur state what they want is annexation if you give them a sea out let they want to claim it and annex it , what ever issue u have with ur brothers it can be solved we the issa people support peace between Mogadishu and hargeisa , and then collectively we can cement our brotherhood and get rid of these Ethiopians not only from main land Somalia but also from the kilil Somali they occupy currently , don’t trust this gurage laangaab


Dr Zackovich

We trust no body. Every one is after his own interests. And I know my interests.

[Horus]

Jikaar come back to the fold of Somalia
They have no intention to recognise ur state what they want is annexation if you give them a sea out let they want to claim it and annex it , what ever issue u have with ur brothers it can be solved we the issa people support peace between Mogadishu and hargeisa , and then collectively we can cement our brotherhood and get rid of these Ethiopians not only from main land Somalia but also from the kilil Somali they occupy currently , don’t trust this gurage laangaab


Dr Zackovich

We trust no body. Every one is after his own interests. And I know my interests.

Jikaar,
Do you have any inside story? What do Somaliland officials say about what is really happening? The Ethiopian Airlines position is not the whole story. For example, is it true that Somaliland is training forces inside Ethiopia.

[Jikaar]

Forget about the MoU Mr horus, you hesitated too much and we don't deal with cowards.

Jikaar,

What are your facts? You are being frustrated by the complicated diplomacy and power dynamics. I can see that. But remember, this is not about anger and impetuosity. Can't you see the kind of forces lined up against Ethiopia and the MOU? Consider UK. They sort of support the MOU, but demand Abiy make peace with Amara & Oromo first. You can see why, If Ethiopia starts war with Egypt, we need a nationally unified position to fight back. Don't overlook the internal weakness of Abiy's regime. My view is that Muse Bihi understand all of these barriers.

How many times we gave you golden opportunities and you missed it for making useless excuses. There is nothing complicated about recognizing or dealing with Somaliland. Any time somalia barks you step back. They just ordered you to remove Somaliland name From the Ethiopiab airline website. And you did it. If you can be pressured over simple things like this. Then you can't take bigger risks including war.

Your internal problem is none of my business , every country has somehow internal problems. No country can tell you do this or don't do this that's bulshiit. Just admit that you are scared the involvement of the Turks and Egyptians who you think that they can exploit your internal crisis or provide huge military assistance to Somalia. If you are worried. So do we.

[Jikaar]

Jikaar come back to the fold of Somalia
They have no intention to recognise ur state what they want is annexation if you give them a sea out let they want to claim it and annex it , what ever issue u have with ur brothers it can be solved we the issa people support peace between Mogadishu and hargeisa , and then collectively we can cement our brotherhood and get rid of these Ethiopians not only from main land Somalia but also from the kilil Somali they occupy currently , don’t trust this gurage laangaab


Dr Zackovich

We trust no body. Every one is after his own interests. And I know my interests.

Jikaar,
Do you have any inside story? What do Somaliland officials say about what is really happening? The Ethiopian Airlines position is not the whole story. For example, is it true that Somaliland is training forces inside Ethiopia.

Somaliland is democratic nation , the views of the citizen have more weight than the political opinion of the government officials. We are not one man show like in Ethiopia or Djibouti. Somaliland citizen see that Ethiopia is intimidated. And they sense lot's of insincerity from your side. That's all I can tell you.

[Zack]

Jikaar, sxb Ethiopia has no genuine interest in recognizing Somaliland; their actions are merely a means to tease those of you in Hargeisa. How many times has the Somaliland administration expressed its readiness to implement the Memorandum of Understanding, only to be met with silence from Addis Ababa? I have said it before, and I will say it again—Ethiopia had four objectives in mind with the MOU.

First, they sought to introduce the idea of gaining access to the sea for Ethiopia on the global stage. Second, they wanted to gauge the reaction of the international community and regional powers. Third, they aimed to test the strength of the Somali government’s diplomacy and see how far it could extend its influence. Fourth, they sought to instill a sense of pride among Ethiopians, both Amhara and galla alike, by creating the impression that Ethiopia is making strides toward securing access to the Red Sea. These were the four things Ethiopia wanted from the MOU.

Now, as they prepare for a third round of talks in Turkey, mediated by the Turks this September, perhaps they hope to secure a better deal from Somalia. Ethiopia's real aim is to have Somalia sign off on sea access for them within Somaliland, believing this would avoid international backlash. Its just using the MOU as a sort of a leverage against Somali goverment Jikaar, it would be wiser to abandon this MOU with Ethiopia and instead come to the negotiation table with Somalia to discuss your objectives directly.


Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

Jikaar, sxb Ethiopia has no genuine interest in recognizing Somaliland; their actions are merely a means to tease those of you in Hargeisa. How many times has the Somaliland administration expressed its readiness to implement the Memorandum of Understanding, only to be met with silence from Addis Ababa? I have said it before, and I will say it again—Ethiopia had four objectives in mind with the MOU.

First, they sought to introduce the idea of gaining access to the sea for Ethiopia on the global stage. Second, they wanted to gauge the reaction of the international community and regional powers. Third, they aimed to test the strength of the Somali government’s diplomacy and see how far it could extend its influence. Fourth, they sought to instill a sense of pride among Ethiopians, both Amhara and galla alike, by creating the impression that Ethiopia is making strides toward securing access to the Red Sea. These were the four things Ethiopia wanted from the MOU.

Now, as they prepare for a third round of talks in Turkey, mediated by the Turks this September, perhaps they hope to secure a better deal from Somalia. Ethiopia's real aim is to have Somalia sign off on sea access for them within Somaliland, believing this would avoid international backlash. Its just using the MOU as a sort of a leverage against Somali goverment Jikaar, it would be wiser to abandon this MOU with Ethiopia and instead come to the negotiation table with Somalia to discuss your objectives directly.


Dr Zackovich

The idiot you're talking to is not even from Somaliland. He's from the western region of Somalia currently occupied by Ethiopia. He's associating himself with Somaliland by just tribal means. He applied for asylum in the West pretending that he came from the south of Somalia and now dares on this forum to open his filthy mouth on south of Somalia.

[Zack]

Jikaar is that true are u from western Somalia ama Somali galbeed , instead of somaliland. That changes allot of things why are u pretending to be from Somaliland there is nothing wrong with being from Somali galbeed I am also from Somali galbeed in particular shinile region.

Dr Zackovich

[Horus]

The problem is that realities don't unfold at the speed of our desires and expectations; they move at the speed of the needs and constraints of nations as well as objective facts on the ground. What are the two powerful needs driving this matter? They are Somaliland's NEED for recognition of its statehood & Ethiopia's NEED for Red Sea access. These two fundamental facts will not go away. Their implementation is only a matter of when.

There are two desires, not needs, that trying to constrain the Ethio-Somaliland NEEDS - they are Somalia's desire for control regions by force under the pretext of the legal fiction known as 'sovereignty'. And, there is the desire of Egypt and/or Turkey for the control of Somalia and its resources under the pretext of supporting Somalia's 'sovereignty'.

So, it is a battle between existential NEEDS of the two nations - Somaliland & Ethiopia & the geopolitical desires of Somalia, Egypt & Turkey.

It is a war of Needs v. Desires. it is an historical fact that Needs always win. That is what will happen! its' only when.