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The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Feb 2023, 05:54



Ethiopia’s Tigray war and the ‘big lie’ behind the century-defining 600,000 civilian deaths


Farmers walk next to a damaged tank abandoned along the road in Dansa, southwest of Mekelle in Tigray region, Ethiopia, on 20 June, 2021. (Photo: Yasuyoshi Chiba / AFP)

By Phillip van Niekerk

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... an-deaths/

22 Feb 2023

Even as the guns have fallen silent in Tigray, the war over truth surrounding the worst mass killing of the 21st century continues — and another bomb is about to explode.

Understanding Ethiopia’s Tigray War, an account of the conflict and its long and complex historical roots by Sarah Vaughan and Martin Plaut, former Africa Editor of the BBC, will be published this week https://www.hurstpublishers.com/book/un ... igray-war/ by Hurst Publishers.

What they have to say is explosive: that the entire justification for the war was based on a lie — the claim that the Tigrayans started it by attacking the Northern Command Headquarters in Mekelle, the capital of Tigray, on the night of 3 November 2020 and that the federal government’s response was a
law and order operation to counter a traitorous terrorist attack
by the Tigrayans.

The authors reveal in great detail that the motivation for war was long
in gestation and preparation
as Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed pushed to centralise power after 25 years of Tigrayan-dominated ethnic federalism under the Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian ... atic_Front

From July 2020, the authors recount, there were explicit social media calls for Ethiopia and Eritrea to act against the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF), which was identified as
the source of all our problems.


Abiy and his associates began a programme of hate speech against Tigrayans, calling them monsters and saying they should be the last of their kind. Tigrayans were expelled from the military and the civil service, and thousands withdrew into Tigray. The anti-Tigrayan sentiment was channelled into millions of Ethiopian homes on satellite television.

An important context is that this was not a civil war but a regional war in which the Ethiopian National Defence Force (ENDF) allied with Eritrea, whose leader, Isaias Afwerki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaias_Afwerki had a long-standing beef with the Tigrayans dating back to the 1970s. The two countries, along with Somalia, formed a tripartite alliance on 27 January 2020, nine months before the outbreak of war, and the weapons and troops were moved into place well ahead of 3 November.
Everyone knew this was coming,
Plaut told the Commonwealth Institute at the launch of the book last week.
This was no surprise.
An invasion long in the planning

Plaut cites Professor Mirjam van Reisen, from Tilburg University in the Netherlands, who was working on a research project with academics from Mekelle University when she received a call on the night of 3 November 2020 from a colleague, saying that there was gunfire in the city.

Van Reisen later learnt that two Ethiopian Air Force planes had landed at Mekelle airport, pretending they were bringing in new banknotes, but actually ferrying in special forces.
The ENDF were sent by plane to capture and kill the leadership of the regional government,
said Plaut.
That was the spark that led to the outbreak of the fighting.
The Tigrayans then went to the regional command in Mekelle and told them to hand over their weapons or they would be arrested. Many did, but some fought back and there was fighting at other bases in Tigray.

The very next day — 4 November — Ethiopian, Eritrean and Somali troops, along with Amhara ethnic militia, began their invasion of Tigray. The Eritreans took Western Tigray so they could cut off the supply lines to Sudan. Mekelle fell on November 29 and the TDF was driven into the mountains from where it launched a guerrilla war.


Ethiopian refugees from the Tigray region wait to receive aid at the Um Rakuba refugee camp, about 80km from the Ethiopian-Sudan border in Sudan, 30 November 2020. According to the World Food Programme, on 2 December, about 12,000 Ethiopian refugees from Tigray were accommodated in the Um Rakuba camp as over 40,000 Ethiopian refugees fled to Sudan since the start of fighting in the northern Tigray region of Ethiopia. (Photo: EPA-EFE / Ala Kheir)


People who fled the war from May Tsemre, Addi Arkay and Zarima gather around in a temporarily built internally displaced people camp to receive their first bags of wheat from the World Food Programme in Debark, 90km from the city of Gondar, Ethiopia, on 15 September 2021. (Photo: Amanuel Sileshi / AFP)

The rest is history. The war fell into several phases: the occupation of Tigray (November 2020); the recapture of Mekelle by the Tigray Defence Forces, (June 2021); the TPLF march on Addis Ababa (August to November 2021); the retreat back to Mekelle (November 2021) and the final assault by the Eritreans, ENDF and Amhara militias (April 2022), ending with the November 2022 cessation of hostilities.

Atrocity comparisons tend to be odious, but the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights has verified 7,199 civilian deaths in Ukraine, a sickening level of mass murder for which Russian President Vladimir Putin bears full responsibility. The number of combat deaths is in the tens of thousands.

By contrast, the number of casualties in Ethiopia might never be known. The best estimates have been put together by Jan Nyssen, a geographer at Ghent University in Belgium, who has calculated that up to 600,000 non-combatants died during the Tigrayan war between November 2020 and November 2022. Many of them starved to death. If one adds fighters who died in combat, the total number of deaths could approach 1 million.

At the Munich Security Conference this past weekend, US Vice-President Kamala Harris accused Russia of committing crimes against humanity. But given the simultaneous near-planetary silence on Tigray, it is safe to conclude that not all crimes against humanity are equal.

President Joe Biden’s administration did start a review last year to determine whether genocide had been committed in Tigray, but then backed off so as not to impede the peace process that culminated in the Pretoria and the Nairobi peace agreements in November last year.

The peace that has accompanied the signing of the accord has provided a shield against asking too many difficult questions or delving too deeply into the Tigrayan conflict — and provided an opportunity for Abiy, who hosted the African heads of state summit in Addis Ababa last weekend, to take a victory lap.

The authors can expect angry pushback to their book, especially on the fake narrative claim, as this has become an article of faith for the defenders of the military operation.

But the question can be asked in a different way: which side was ready and prepared to fight a war on 4 November 2020? Tsadkan Gebretensae, the Tigray Defence Forces’ (TDF’s) legendary commander, just this past week was scathing in his criticism of the TPLF for their lack of proper preparation when all the signs were there.


Ethiopians carry a poster of president Abiy Ahmed as they attend a rally in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, on 7 November 2021, held to show support for the government and the Ethiopia National Defence Force in its efforts against the Tigray People’s Liberation Front and Oromo Liberation Army. (Photo: EPA-EFE / STR)

Within the first weeks of the war, a number of war crimes had been committed, such as the extrajudicial killings of hundreds of civilians in Axum in November 2020 and the brutalisation and rape of Tigrayan women.
They were raped at random,
said Plaut.
Sometimes many, many times over many days.
Still to come were the mass arbitrary arrests of tens of thousands of ethnic Tigrayans, the aerial bombardment of schools and hospitals and the use of starvation as a weapon of war through the blockade of Tigray, which included the deaths of thousands of children.

There is no denying that the TDF responded by inflicting atrocities too, but the case that this was an ethnically motivated war aimed at subjugating and eliminating an entire nation can only be made against one side.

Dredging up old history

There are those who will ask, with the peace accord now signed and in place, what is the purpose of dredging up this now-old history?

The best answer is the same reason that South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission was established — that the victims should have a voice too. And they are Africans too.

This is especially true when one considers that, for much of the war, Tigray was cut off from the rest of the world, without internet or telephone access. To this day, reporters remain highly restricted. The Ethiopian government, its control of state media and its army of social media trolls have a unique ability to tell their story or digitally assault anyone who strays from the official line.

Plaut and Vaughan welcome debate — and they hope that more books will be written. The conflict in Ethiopia is not over by a long shot. The search for the truth does not end with one book.

The peace accord, they say, has not resolved the fundamental underlying conflict in Ethiopia over a communal national identity and issues around it such as ethnonationalism, land hunger and score-settling.


Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed. (Photo: EPA-EFE / STR)

The Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) could be blamed for authoritarianism and lapses in the 27 years it ruled the country, but in the years since Abiy took power in 2018, the levels of conflict, division and violence have been unprecedented.

This is not to deny that the peace accord was a significant achievement. The role of South Africa and former presidents Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria and Uhuru Kenyatta of Kenya — and the US behind the scenes — probably saved many thousands of people from starvation and death.

The Pretoria Accord was at its root an admission that the TDF was exhausted and on its last legs, the Tigrayan people starving and facing an overwhelming regional force armed and financed by powerful international players.

Vaughan fears that aspect of the accord that reinforces the message that
might is right and you can win by force of arms.
As she points out, Tigray is only one of the dynamics that have marked Ethiopia in this period.
Even after the cessation of hostilities on November 22 last year, the conflict has been metastasising into other spheres,
she says.

Most recently it was the schism in the Orthodox Church. Now with the Tigrayans out of the game, the struggle for domination in Ethiopia is being played out between the Oromo and the Amhara.

Ethiopia has veered away from the careful ethnic balancing act of the EPRDF era, which may have been an imperfect response to the problem of multiple ethnicities, into what Vaughan now calls a “zero-sum game” where the choice of identity is much starker.
Until Ethiopia’s elites come to terms with a more positive, constructive approach to this issue, this peace deal may just stick but the underlying problems won’t be resolved,
she says.

DM

Phillip van Niekerk is editor of DM’s Africa, Unscrambled weekly newsletter.

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by sesame » 22 Feb 2023, 08:53

What is odd is that the Weyane stooge Martin Plaut imagines that he is in a position to write a book about the matter. There may be many Agames who will buy his drivel and that probably would suffice to augment his income. Other than that, it is garbage in garbage out! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by ZEMEN » 22 Feb 2023, 09:12

sesame wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 08:53
What is odd is that the Weyane stooge Martin Plaut imagines that he is in a position to write a book about the matter. There may be many Agames who will buy his drivel and that probably would suffice to augment his income. Other than that, it is garbage in garbage out! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I just watch PIA's interview on EMS translated to Amharic and this man is to the point. He knows the agame, he knows the bloody whites and everything how the world works. I am just amazed how president Isaias figured it out while the rest of the monkeys are sleeping. I am very sure that Eritrea will be the envy of Africa, because they figured it out what the hold-up is, the white man and their becchs like TPLF.

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Fiyameta » 22 Feb 2023, 09:25

:P :P :P :P




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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Meleket » 22 Feb 2023, 09:43

ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ይዋጉ በነበሩ ወንድማማች ኃይሎች መካከል የሰላም ስምምነት ተደርጓል። ኤርትራችን የዓለም ታዛቢዎች ባሉበት፡ በሰላም መንፈስ ደንበሯ በትክክል መሬቱ ላይ ተመላክቶ ማለትም "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን" በ"ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኣማካኝነት ስጋ ለብሶ ማዬት ትፈልጋለች፤ ምክንያቱም በድንበር አዋሳኝ ላሉ ሕዝቦች ሁነኛው የሰላም መንገድ እሱ ብቻ በመሆኑ ነው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ወሬ ማብዛት ግን ለሁለቱ ህዝቦች በተለዪም በድንበር አካባቢ ላሉ የሁለቱ ሃገራት ህዝቦች ፍላጎት ጀሮ ኣለመስጠትና፡ የጤና ያልሆነ ኣካሄድ ነው ቢለናል፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
:mrgreen:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Fiyameta » 22 Feb 2023, 09:55

The White South African, Phillip van Niekerk, along with his comrade-in-arms Martin Plaut, had champagne bottles chilled and ready to pop as TPLF terrorists were advancing to Addis Ababa in October of 2021. Back then, in anticipation of TPLF's "victory", he inked an article celebrating TPLF advances, claiming that....
Abiy’s offensive against Tigray collapses: Dreams of a ‘new Ethiopia’ arise
By Phillip van Niekerk


Over the weekend, fighters from the Tigrayan Defence Force (TDF) seized control of parts of Dessie, a city 400km from Addis Ababa, and captured Kembolcha, with its major airport. In 1991, it took them only a few days to travel from Dessie to Addis.

Some of the TDF military leaders were among those who liberated Addis that day, among them General Tsadkan Gebretensae, the TDF commander and military strategist who is credited with outplaying and outfoxing Abiy’s forces. No one knows the geography of the country or the road into Addis better than he does.

There are reports that the Tigrayans have agreed to let the OLA be the ones to march into Addis, an important symbolic gesture ...
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... pia-arise/

Tsadkan, finally, lost his compass and ended up in Pretoria, South Africa, a country where both Phillip Van Niekerk and Martin Plaut had subjugated native South Africans to cruel oppression and domination under white Apartheid rule from 1948 to 1994.




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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Feb 2023, 10:27

To repeat once again: :roll:

1. The virtual demarcation issue came to the fore by the border commissionaires (one can see the letter of Sir Elihu Leuterpacht to Meles chenawi), because of the refusal of the terror junta to abide by the ruling.

2. Still, I believe the Eritrean govt has no problems whatsoever with physical demarcation going ahead eventhough we've learned physical demarcation doesn't stop rockets, fighter jets and such.

3. Hoping the 2 gov't's soon will begin with that process, what's most important is for the Ethiopian people in general & the qondafat ugume in particular to start seeing Eritrea as they see Sudan, Kenya, Djibout & S. Sudan.

Simply, a neighbouring country & nothing extra.



Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ይዋጉ በነበሩ ወንድማማች ኃይሎች መካከል የሰላም ስምምነት ተደርጓል። ኤርትራችን የዓለም ታዛቢዎች ባሉበት፡ በሰላም መንፈስ ደንበሯ በትክክል መሬቱ ላይ ተመላክቶ ማለትም "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን" በ"ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኣማካኝነት ስጋ ለብሶ ማዬት ትፈልጋለች፤ ምክንያቱም በድንበር አዋሳኝ ላሉ ሕዝቦች ሁነኛው የሰላም መንገድ እሱ ብቻ በመሆኑ ነው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ወሬ ማብዛት ግን ለሁለቱ ህዝቦች በተለዪም በድንበር አካባቢ ላሉ የሁለቱ ሃገራት ህዝቦች ፍላጎት ጀሮ ኣለመስጠትና፡ የጤና ያልሆነ ኣካሄድ ነው ቢለናል፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
:mrgreen:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Meleket » 22 Feb 2023, 10:58

ወዳጃችን Zmeselo ያንተን ምላሽ ሰማን። ግሩም ነው። ብረዚደንታችን ደግሞ ምን እንደሚሉ እየጠበቅን ነው።

የወያኔ ነገር "ጌም ኦቨር" ተብሎ፡ ትጥቃቸውን ፈተዋል። ኣሁን የእናቴ መቀነት አደናቅፎኝ ነው ጁንታ ዋስንግተን ምናምን ሳይባል ወደ "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ማቅናት ነው። ኣብዪ እንደሆነ እምቢ ኣይልም።
:mrgreen:
Zmeselo wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 10:27
To repeat once again: :roll:

1. The virtual demarcation issue came to the fore by the border commissionaires (one can see the letter of Sir Elihu Leuterpacht to Meles chenawi), because of the refusal of the terror junta to abide by the ruling.

2. Still, I believe the Eritrean govt has no problems whatsoever with physical demarcation going ahead eventhough we've learned physical demarcation doesn't stop rockets, fighter jets and such.

3. Hoping the 2 gov't's soon will begin with that process, what's most important is for the Ethiopian people in general & the qondafat ugume in particular to start seeing Eritrea as they see Sudan, Kenya, Djibout & S. Sudan.

Simply, a neighbouring country & nothing extra.

Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ይዋጉ በነበሩ ወንድማማች ኃይሎች መካከል የሰላም ስምምነት ተደርጓል። ኤርትራችን የዓለም ታዛቢዎች ባሉበት፡ በሰላም መንፈስ ደንበሯ በትክክል መሬቱ ላይ ተመላክቶ ማለትም "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን" በ"ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኣማካኝነት ስጋ ለብሶ ማዬት ትፈልጋለች፤ ምክንያቱም በድንበር አዋሳኝ ላሉ ሕዝቦች ሁነኛው የሰላም መንገድ እሱ ብቻ በመሆኑ ነው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ወሬ ማብዛት ግን ለሁለቱ ህዝቦች በተለዪም በድንበር አካባቢ ላሉ የሁለቱ ሃገራት ህዝቦች ፍላጎት ጀሮ ኣለመስጠትና፡ የጤና ያልሆነ ኣካሄድ ነው ቢለናል፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
:mrgreen:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Fiyameta » 22 Feb 2023, 11:43


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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by quindibu » 22 Feb 2023, 12:09

Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 10:58
ወዳጃችን Zmeselo ያንተን ምላሽ ሰማን። ግሩም ነው። ብረዚደንታችን ደግሞ ምን እንደሚሉ እየጠበቅን ነው።

የወያኔ ነገር "ጌም ኦቨር" ተብሎ፡ ትጥቃቸውን ፈተዋል። ኣሁን የእናቴ መቀነት አደናቅፎኝ ነው ጁንታ ዋስንግተን ምናምን ሳይባል ወደ "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ማቅናት ነው። ኣብዪ እንደሆነ እምቢ ኣይልም።
:mrgreen:
Zmeselo wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 10:27
To repeat once again: :roll:




Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ይዋጉ በነበሩ ወንድማማች ኃይሎች መካከል የሰላም ስምምነት ተደርጓል። ኤርትራችን የዓለም ታዛቢዎች ባሉበት፡ በሰላም መንፈስ ደንበሯ በትክክል መሬቱ ላይ ተመላክቶ ማለትም "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን" በ"ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኣማካኝነት ስጋ ለብሶ ማዬት ትፈልጋለች፤ ምክንያቱም በድንበር አዋሳኝ ላሉ ሕዝቦች ሁነኛው የሰላም መንገድ እሱ ብቻ በመሆኑ ነው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ወሬ ማብዛት ግን ለሁለቱ ህዝቦች በተለዪም በድንበር አካባቢ ላሉ የሁለቱ ሃገራት ህዝቦች ፍላጎት ጀሮ ኣለመስጠትና፡ የጤና ያልሆነ ኣካሄድ ነው ቢለናል፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
:mrgreen:


አፍ የፈታህበትን ቋንቋና የትምህርት ደረጃህን ከምትጽፋቸው መገመት ባያስቸግርም ፥ አማርኛውንም ሆነ ትግርኛውን በደንብ ሳታጠራ ፥ ግራ በሚያጋባ ሁኔታ እየሞነጫጨርክ፥ በዓሉ ግርማን ወይም ተስፋዬ ገብረኣብን ዓይነት ጥልቀትና ውበት ያለው ነው ፅሑፌ የሚል በሚመስል እራስን ሽንገላ በየጊዜው የምትለጥፋቸውን ፅሑፎች የሰው thread ላይ እያመጣህ እኛ ላይ ከምትጭንብን ፥ የራስህን ከፍተህ ብትለጥፋቸው ለብዙዎቻችን ትልቅ ውለታ ነው ብዬ አምናለሁኝ። በዚህ የፅሑፍ "ችሎታህ" ደግሞ እርግጠኛ ነኝ ብዙ ተከታዮችን በአጭር ጊዜ እንደምታፈራ ። :roll:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Feb 2023, 12:35

If you always knew the answer lies with the president, why are you continually bothering us in ur threads?

Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 10:58
ወዳጃችን Zmeselo ያንተን ምላሽ ሰማን። ግሩም ነው። ብረዚደንታችን ደግሞ ምን እንደሚሉ እየጠበቅን ነው።

የወያኔ ነገር "ጌም ኦቨር" ተብሎ፡ ትጥቃቸውን ፈተዋል። ኣሁን የእናቴ መቀነት አደናቅፎኝ ነው ጁንታ ዋስንግተን ምናምን ሳይባል ወደ "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ማቅናት ነው። ኣብዪ እንደሆነ እምቢ ኣይልም።
:mrgreen:
Zmeselo wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 10:27
To repeat once again: :roll:

1. The virtual demarcation issue came to the fore by the border commissionaires (one can see the letter of Sir Elihu Leuterpacht to Meles chenawi), because of the refusal of the terror junta to abide by the ruling.

2. Still, I believe the Eritrean govt has no problems whatsoever with physical demarcation going ahead eventhough we've learned physical demarcation doesn't stop rockets, fighter jets and such.

3. Hoping the 2 gov't's soon will begin with that process, what's most important is for the Ethiopian people in general & the qondafat ugume in particular to start seeing Eritrea as they see Sudan, Kenya, Djibout & S. Sudan.

Simply, a neighbouring country & nothing extra.

Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ይዋጉ በነበሩ ወንድማማች ኃይሎች መካከል የሰላም ስምምነት ተደርጓል። ኤርትራችን የዓለም ታዛቢዎች ባሉበት፡ በሰላም መንፈስ ደንበሯ በትክክል መሬቱ ላይ ተመላክቶ ማለትም "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን" በ"ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኣማካኝነት ስጋ ለብሶ ማዬት ትፈልጋለች፤ ምክንያቱም በድንበር አዋሳኝ ላሉ ሕዝቦች ሁነኛው የሰላም መንገድ እሱ ብቻ በመሆኑ ነው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ወሬ ማብዛት ግን ለሁለቱ ህዝቦች በተለዪም በድንበር አካባቢ ላሉ የሁለቱ ሃገራት ህዝቦች ፍላጎት ጀሮ ኣለመስጠትና፡ የጤና ያልሆነ ኣካሄድ ነው ቢለናል፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
:mrgreen:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by sesame » 22 Feb 2023, 17:59

What is funny is that this character pretends to be more concerned about the demarcation of the border than PIA or any other Eritrean, specially those who marched into Agameland to erase the Tigrayan threat to our border. Now to the point: Aite Meleket, can you explain how the border is to be demarcated now? Just explain the process you have in mind. If you can't do that, the stop whining about it here. It is none of your business! The more you blubber about it, the more you are smelling like an Agame rat!

Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Fiyameta » 22 Feb 2023, 21:56

The inferior agame Meleket keeps bringing up the border demarcation issue in a desperate attempt to distract our attention from his TPLF terrorist group, because he feels that we are forcing him to relive a traumatic event when we remind him of his final and irreversible defeat. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
sesame wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:59
What is funny is that this character pretends to be more concerned about the demarcation of the border than PIA or any other Eritrean, specially those who marched into Agameland to erase the Tigrayan threat to our border. Now to the point: Aite Meleket, can you explain how the border is to be demarcated now? Just explain the process you have in mind. If you can't do that, the stop whining about it here. It is none of your business! The more you blubber about it, the more you are smelling like an Agame rat!

Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by sun » 23 Feb 2023, 01:27

Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ይዋጉ በነበሩ ወንድማማች ኃይሎች መካከል የሰላም ስምምነት ተደርጓል። ኤርትራችን የዓለም ታዛቢዎች ባሉበት፡ በሰላም መንፈስ ደንበሯ በትክክል መሬቱ ላይ ተመላክቶ ማለትም "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን" በ"ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኣማካኝነት ስጋ ለብሶ ማዬት ትፈልጋለች፤ ምክንያቱም በድንበር አዋሳኝ ላሉ ሕዝቦች ሁነኛው የሰላም መንገድ እሱ ብቻ በመሆኑ ነው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ወሬ ማብዛት ግን ለሁለቱ ህዝቦች በተለዪም በድንበር አካባቢ ላሉ የሁለቱ ሃገራት ህዝቦች ፍላጎት ጀሮ ኣለመስጠትና፡ የጤና ያልሆነ ኣካሄድ ነው ቢለናል፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
:mrgreen:

Thank you for your realistic and balanced comment. I don't know as to why some people keep recycling negative old events and feelings instead of concentrating in peace building, peace giving and peace receiving. After all we are all humans and deserve peace and peaceful life.

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Meleket » 23 Feb 2023, 05:14

ነመስግነኪ Fiyameta ሓፍትና፡ ቀሚሽ ኣደይ ሓንኵሉኒ ከይበልኪ ንፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን ተዳለዪ! :mrgreen:
Fiyameta wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 11:43
. . .
ነመስግነካ quindibu ሓዉና፡ ውዳሴ ኣብዚሕካልና! :mrgreen:
quindibu wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 12:09
. . .
Zmeselo ሓውና፡ እንታይ ይመስለካ :lol: "ኵናት ራብዓይ ኪሽርጥጡ ዚደልዩ ኃይልታት፡ ነናሻዕ መስርሕ ሰላም ኬጎናድቡ፡ ሓዊ ክሽርጥጡ ከዕለብጡ ምስረዓና'ሲ፡ :lol: ፈውሱ "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኢዩ ቢልና ስለዝሓሰብናን ዝኣመንናን፡ ነቱይ መትከልና ዳሕዲሕናዮ ግዲ፡ ብኤርትራዊ ጭውነት ሓበንን ፍናንን። ንስኻውን ቀሚሽ ኣደዪ ሓንኵሉኒዩ፣ ጃንዳ ዋሽንግተን ኢያ ከምዙይ ዝገበረት፣ ጌም ኦቨር ዝበልናያ ጃንዳ ወያነ'ያ ኣብ መሬት እናንገርገረትን እናዕገርገረትን ኣብያትና፣ ዶክተር ኣብዪ ኢዩ ሓንጊዱ፣ ፋኖ ኢዩ ሓኺሉ፣ ወዘተ እንከይበልካ፡ ብዓቕልን ትዕግሥትን ዝተጸመምካዮ ኣይወሓደን እሞ፡ መዓንጣኻ ሸጥ ኣቢልካ፡ ንነባሪ ሰላምን፡ ንትግባረ ሕድሪ ስውኣትን ትግባረ "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን ተዳሎ ቢልና ንምዕደኻ ኣለና ንሕና ኤርትራውያን ደያኑ ማእከል መስመርን፡ ብኤርትራዊ ጭውነትን ሓበንን ፍናንን። :mrgreen:
Zmeselo wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 12:35
If you always knew the answer lies with the president, why are you continually bothering us in ur threads?
ኣያና ኣይተ sesame ብክብረትኩም እንዶ ኣብዡይ ተወከሱ https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=308857&
sesame wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:59
.. .. .. Now to the point: Aite Meleket, can you explain how the border is to be demarcated now? Just explain the process you have in mind. .. .. ..
ጨዋታው እኮ በሰላም ከተፈጸመ ቆየ፡ እንዴ ምን መሆንሽ ነው እታለም Fiyameta "ጌም ኦቨር" ተብሎ፡ የወያኔ ትጥቅ ተፈትቶ፡ ጠቅላዩና ወያኖች በጠረጴዛ ዙርያ ችግራቸውን እየፈቱ ነው እኮ፡ ምን የሚሉት ከሰላም ማፈግፈግ ነው? ይልቅስ የኮለኔል ታሪኩ ቀበቶ ኣደናቀፈኝ ሳትዪ፡ ለኣይቀሬው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ብትዘጋጂ ይበጅሻል። :mrgreen:
Fiyameta wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 21:56
The inferior agame Meleket keeps bringing up the border demarcation issue in a desperate attempt to distract our attention from his TPLF terrorist group, . . .
ባጠቃላዪ ሰ.ፍ.ረ. (ሰብ ፍሉይ ረብሓታት) ብለን ዬምንጠራችሁ እነ ነውር ጌጣቸው የጦርነት ጥቅመኛ (ጦ.ጥ.) ተራ ካድሬዎቻችን፡ "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ቢተገበር ምን ስለምትጎዱ ነው ይህን ያህል መንጨርጨራችሁ? ጐበዝ ኧረ በትንሹም ቢሆን ኅሊናችሁ ኣይወቅሳችሁምን?

ወደዳችሁም ጠላችሁም፡ "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን በፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን ስጋ ካልለበሰ"፡ ሕድሪ ሰማእታት ተተግብሯል ለማለት ኣይቻልም። [አራት ሚልየን ነጥቦች]

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Meleket » 23 Feb 2023, 05:45

sun wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 01:27
Meleket wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 09:43
ሰላም እኮ ኣሁን ሰፍኗል፡ የምን ወደኋላ መመለስ ነው። ግዜው "ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን"ን የመተግበሪያ እንጂ፡ እንቶኔ እንዲህ ብሎ ነበር እንቶኒት እንዲህ ብላ ነበር እየተባለ ነገር የሚመነዥክበት ግዜ ሊሆን ኣይገባም:mrgreen:

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ይዋጉ በነበሩ ወንድማማች ኃይሎች መካከል የሰላም ስምምነት ተደርጓል። ኤርትራችን የዓለም ታዛቢዎች ባሉበት፡ በሰላም መንፈስ ደንበሯ በትክክል መሬቱ ላይ ተመላክቶ ማለትም "ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን" በ"ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን" ኣማካኝነት ስጋ ለብሶ ማዬት ትፈልጋለች፤ ምክንያቱም በድንበር አዋሳኝ ላሉ ሕዝቦች ሁነኛው የሰላም መንገድ እሱ ብቻ በመሆኑ ነው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ወሬ ማብዛት ግን ለሁለቱ ህዝቦች በተለዪም በድንበር አካባቢ ላሉ የሁለቱ ሃገራት ህዝቦች ፍላጎት ጀሮ ኣለመስጠትና፡ የጤና ያልሆነ ኣካሄድ ነው ቢለናል፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
:mrgreen:

Thank you for your realistic and balanced comment. I don't know as to why some people keep recycling negative old events and feelings instead of concentrating in peace building, peace giving and peace receiving. After all we are all humans and deserve peace and peaceful life.
ወዳጃችን sun ስለ ሚዛናዊነትህና ከሰላምና ከሓቅ ጎን በመቆምህ፡ በመላው ሰላም ወዳድ ህዝባችን ስም ትልቅ ምስጋናችንና ኣክብሮታችንን እናቀርብልሃለን። ባለህበት ክፉ ኣይንካህ ብለንም እንመርቅሃለን፡ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች፡ በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by sesame » 23 Feb 2023, 06:06

Meleket,

Don't dance around pointlessly. I asked you two questions.

1) Do you think you are more concerned about the physical border demarcation than the Eritrean heroes who eliminated the Agame threat?

2) Instead of bitching about it ad nauseum, explain in precise terms how the demarcation can be done now? Otherwise, you are just an Agame empty barrel!

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Meleket » 23 Feb 2023, 10:28

"ኣውቆ የተኛን ቢቀሰቅሱት ኣይሰማም" እንዲሉ፡ ጥያቄዎችህ በሙሉ በዚህ ኣቅጣጫ መሰረት መገንዘብ በቻልክ ነበር። https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=308857&

ያዝ እንግዲህ . . . እነዚህን ነጥቦች አትዘንጋ

1) ኢትዮጵያውያን ወንድማማቾች ከቀጣዪ ጦርነትና እርስበእርስ መዳማት ወጥተው በጠረጴዛ ዙርያ ችግሮቻቸውን ፈትተው ለሰላም ተፈራርመዋል

2) የትግራይ ሃይሎችም ትጥቃችንን እንፈታለን ብለው፡ ከፌደራሉ መንግስት ጋር ተስማመተው እያስረከቡ ናቸው

3) የሃገረ ኢትዮጵያ ጉዳይ በቀጥታ የሚመለከተው የፌደራል መንግስቱን ነው።

4) የፌደራል መንግስቱ ቁንጮ የኤርትራና ኢትዮጵያን ድንበር በሰላም ለመፍታት ገና ከማለዳው ቃል ገብተዋል

5) ራስህ ኣቶ sesame እንዳስቀመጥከው ደግሞ፡ "ዕንቅፋት የነበረው ሃይል በኤርትራውያን ጀግኖች ኣማካኝነት ጠፍቷል" እያልከን ነው ኣይደል?

6) ታዲያ ጉዳዩ ይህን ከመሰለ፡ ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን እንዳይከናወን ምንም ዓይነት ዕንቅፋት የለም ማለት ነው።

7) በመሆኑም እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር እያልን ያለነው፡ ሳይቃጠል በቅጠል እንዲሉ፡ ኣሁን በሰላሙ ግዜ፡ በቅንነት መንፈስ፡ ለሁለቱ አዋሳኝ ድንበር ህዝቦች ዘለቄታዊ ሰላም ሲባል፡ ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን በፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን ስጋ ይልበስ ነው ያልነው። በዚህ ተግባር ደግሞ ኤርትራ ምን እንዳትጐዳ ነው የሰጋሀው ወዳጃችን sesame?

ኣጠቃላይ ኣቅጣጫ እንደሆን እዪህ ላይ ጠቑመናል፡ 146 ነጥቦች ኣሉ ህግና ዓለም የሚያውቃቸው፡ ከነሱ መጀመር ይቻላልhttps://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=308857&ኣንዳንድ ማሻሻያዎችን ደግሞ ከሚመለከታቸው የኢትዮጵያ መንግሥት ኣካላት ጋር በመነጋገር ማስተካከል ይቻላል። እስቲ ኣሁን እንዲህ ማለት ምኑ ላዪ ነው ኃጢኣትነቱ ወዳጃችን።

ይሄ ኣይቻልም የምትል ከሆነ ደግሞ እስቲ ያንተን የመፍትሄ መንገድ አስነብበን፡ ኣለበለዚያ ችግሩ ዝምብሎ ለዘመናት እንዲከባለል የምትሻ፡ ባዶው ገረወይና ኣንተው እንዳትሆን! ኣይመስልህም?
:mrgreen:

sesame wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 06:06
Meleket,

Don't dance around pointlessly. I asked you two questions.

1) Do you think you are more concerned about the physical border demarcation than the Eritrean heroes who eliminated the Agame threat?

2) Instead of bitching about it ad nauseum, explain in precise terms how the demarcation can be done now? Otherwise, you are just an Agame empty barrel!

quindibu
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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by quindibu » 23 Feb 2023, 10:48

sesame wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 06:06
Meleket,

Don't dance around pointlessly. I asked you two questions.

1) Do you think you are more concerned about the physical border demarcation than the Eritrean heroes who eliminated the Agame threat?

2) Instead of bitching about it ad nauseum, explain in precise terms how the demarcation can be done now? Otherwise, you are just an Agame empty barrel!

ዓጋመ የራሱን መገንባት ስለማይችል፥የሰውን ለመናድና ለማበላሽት ጉልበትና ግዜ ሲያጠፉ ነው የኖሩት፥፥ ይህ ደብተራም ያንን ነው የሚያደርገው ያለው፥፥ Trying to ruin threads started by Zmeselo.

ሕስድና ናታቶም እያ፥፥ He should be ignored!

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Re: The revision of history has already begun.

Post by Meleket » 23 Feb 2023, 10:57

ወዳጃችን quindibu ምነው ይህን ያህል ጥላቻ፡ ያውም በሰላሙ ዘመን ኣያስፈልግም እኮ! ወዳጃችን ምነው ረጋ ብለህ ማሰብ ብትጀምር። ጭፍን ጥላቻ ዬትም ኣያደርስህም ራስህን ነው የምትጎዳው እኮ። ኣንባቢም ይታዘብሃል። ይልቅስ በጨዋ ደንብ ቁምነገርና የመፍትሄ ሃሳብ ወዘተ ኣምጣ። ከታላቅ ኣክብሮት ጋር ነው ምክራችንን እዬለገስንህ ያለነው እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር። :mrgreen:
quindibu wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 10:48
sesame wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 06:06
Meleket,

Don't dance around pointlessly. I asked you two questions.

1) Do you think you are more concerned about the physical border demarcation than the Eritrean heroes who eliminated the Agame threat?

2) Instead of bitching about it ad nauseum, explain in precise terms how the demarcation can be done now? Otherwise, you are just an Agame empty barrel!

ዓጋመ የራሱን መገንባት ስለማይችል፥የሰውን ለመናድና ለማበላሽት ጉልበትና ግዜ ሲያጠፉ ነው የኖሩት፥፥ ይህ ደብተራም ያንን ነው የሚያደርገው ያለው፥፥ Trying to ruin threads started by Zmeselo.

ሕስድና ናታቶም እያ፥፥ He should be ignored!
Meleket wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 10:28
"ኣውቆ የተኛን ቢቀሰቅሱት ኣይሰማም" እንዲሉ፡ ጥያቄዎችህ በሙሉ በዚህ ኣቅጣጫ መሰረት መገንዘብ በቻልክ ነበር። https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=308857&

ያዝ እንግዲህ . . . እነዚህን ነጥቦች አትዘንጋ

1) ኢትዮጵያውያን ወንድማማቾች ከቀጣዪ ጦርነትና እርስበእርስ መዳማት ወጥተው በጠረጴዛ ዙርያ ችግሮቻቸውን ፈትተው ለሰላም ተፈራርመዋል

2) የትግራይ ሃይሎችም ትጥቃችንን እንፈታለን ብለው፡ ከፌደራሉ መንግስት ጋር ተስማመተው እያስረከቡ ናቸው

3) የሃገረ ኢትዮጵያ ጉዳይ በቀጥታ የሚመለከተው የፌደራል መንግስቱን ነው።

4) የፌደራል መንግስቱ ቁንጮ የኤርትራና ኢትዮጵያን ድንበር በሰላም ለመፍታት ገና ከማለዳው ቃል ገብተዋል

5) ራስህ ኣቶ sesame እንዳስቀመጥከው ደግሞ፡ "ዕንቅፋት የነበረው ሃይል በኤርትራውያን ጀግኖች ኣማካኝነት ጠፍቷል" እያልከን ነው ኣይደል?

6) ታዲያ ጉዳዩ ይህን ከመሰለ፡ ፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን እንዳይከናወን ምንም ዓይነት ዕንቅፋት የለም ማለት ነው።

7) በመሆኑም እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር እያልን ያለነው፡ ሳይቃጠል በቅጠል እንዲሉ፡ ኣሁን በሰላሙ ግዜ፡ በቅንነት መንፈስ፡ ለሁለቱ አዋሳኝ ድንበር ህዝቦች ዘለቄታዊ ሰላም ሲባል፡ ቨርቺዋል ዲማርኬሽን በፊዚካል ዲማርኬሽን ስጋ ይልበስ ነው ያልነው። በዚህ ተግባር ደግሞ ኤርትራ ምን እንዳትጐዳ ነው የሰጋሀው ወዳጃችን sesame?

ኣጠቃላይ ኣቅጣጫ እንደሆን እዪህ ላይ ጠቑመናል፡ 146 ነጥቦች ኣሉ ህግና ዓለም የሚያውቃቸው፡ ከነሱ መጀመር ይቻላልhttps://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=308857&ኣንዳንድ ማሻሻያዎችን ደግሞ ከሚመለከታቸው የኢትዮጵያ መንግሥት ኣካላት ጋር በመነጋገር ማስተካከል ይቻላል። እስቲ ኣሁን እንዲህ ማለት ምኑ ላዪ ነው ኃጢኣትነቱ ወዳጃችን።

ይሄ ኣይቻልም የምትል ከሆነ ደግሞ እስቲ ያንተን የመፍትሄ መንገድ አስነብበን፡ ኣለበለዚያ ችግሩ ዝምብሎ ለዘመናት እንዲከባለል የምትሻ፡ ባዶው ገረወይና ኣንተው እንዳትሆን! ኣይመስልህም?
:mrgreen:

sesame wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 06:06
Meleket,

Don't dance around pointlessly. I asked you two questions.

1) Do you think you are more concerned about the physical border demarcation than the Eritrean heroes who eliminated the Agame threat?

2) Instead of bitching about it ad nauseum, explain in precise terms how the demarcation can be done now? Otherwise, you are just an Agame empty barrel!

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