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Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of TPl

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 15:22

Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as government plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of TPLF.

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by free-tembien » 03 Nov 2022, 15:27

Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 15:22
Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as government plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of TPLF.
you wish agame boy :mrgreen:

you are unusually active trying hard to sell amhara victory as defeat and the actual agame capitulation as victory

typical low iq agame :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 15:36

free-tembien wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 15:27
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 15:22
Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as government plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of TPLF.
you wish agame boy :mrgreen:

you are unusually active trying hard to sell amhara victory as defeat and the actual agame capitulation as victory

typical low iq agame :lol: :mrgreen:


You are my brother and I am not going to get angry with you. The government plans to bring the areas that it designated as " disputed " ( Amhara lands: Raya,Walkait,Tegede, Humera ....) under its control. That entails the removal of the Fanos from those areas because of their direct interest having to do with their Amhara identity.




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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Noble Amhara » 03 Nov 2022, 15:58

Fake news from Stupid agame and agame360

The war ain't over and no fano Will withdrawl we learned from Gobiye and Kobo. The war won't be in our lands anymore we will fight in Azebo not Kobo. The gov already controls Welkait Tegede Humera idiot and now raya.



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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 16:04

Noble Amhara wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 15:58
Fake news from Stupid agame.

The war ain't over and no fano Will withdrawl we learned from Gobiye and Kobo. The war won't be in our lands anymore we will fight in Azebo not Kobo


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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by @@ » 03 Nov 2022, 16:18

Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:04
everybody knows ethio360 = tplf mouthpiece. don't post the garbage from them

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 16:23

@@ wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:18
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:04
everybody knows ethio360 = tplf mouthpiece. don't post the garbage from them
The issue is not ethio360 but the near future plans of the government. What I have reported points in that direction.

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by DefendTheTruth » 03 Nov 2022, 16:44

wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 16:55

DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:44
wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.


If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).



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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by DefendTheTruth » 03 Nov 2022, 17:00

Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:55
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:44
wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.


If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).


Ethiopia has a constitution!

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abere » 03 Nov 2022, 17:05


The OLF-PP government may try, but is is going to be a tough one for PP. Now, Amhara is more awaken than anytime. To me trying so by PP-OLF is the start of digging its own grave. There is no social or natural law the demographic majority Amhara will be forced to live under the minority rule. The fire the engulf Tigray will do the same in the entire country.

Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:55
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:44
wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.


If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).



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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 17:06

DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:00
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:55
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:44
wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.


If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).


Ethiopia has a constitution!
Which constitution ? The Meles Zenawi constitution that declared Amhara lands as Tigrayan ? Do you want to commit injustice against the Amharas using the constitution of the TPLF ?

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by DefendTheTruth » 03 Nov 2022, 17:17

Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:06
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:00
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:55
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:44
wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.


If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).


Ethiopia has a constitution!
Which constitution ? The Meles Zenawi constitution that declared Amhara lands as Tigrayan ? Do you want to commit injustice against the Amharas using the constitution of the TPLF ?
እንደዚህ ጠንከር ያልክ ጠበቃ አትመሰልኝም ነበር፣ ጎበዝ ጠበቃ ነህ ።

For your information the constitution we have today in the country is the supreme law of the land, it could be bad or good. Fact is that it is the one.

Many people in Ethiopia agreed upon it and adopted it, for the simple reason that to have one is better than to have none.

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 17:24

DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:17
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:06
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:00
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:55
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:44
wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.


If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).


Ethiopia has a constitution!
Which constitution ? The Meles Zenawi constitution that declared Amhara lands as Tigrayan ? Do you want to commit injustice against the Amharas using the constitution of the TPLF ?
እንደዚህ ጠንከር ያልክ ጠበቃ አትመሰልኝም ነበር፣ ጎበዝ ጠበቃ ነህ ።

For your information the constitution we have today in the country is the supreme law of the land, it could be bad or good. Fact is that it is the one.

Many people in Ethiopia agreed upon it and adopted it, for the simple reason that to have one is better than to have none.
" Many people " doesn't include the 40-50 million Amharas. They reject the TPLF constitution.

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by DefendTheTruth » 03 Nov 2022, 17:36

Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:24
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:17
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:06
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:00
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:55
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:44
wendem Abe Abraham,

I think you are stuck in some sort of, perhaps also weird, logic.

Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray is going to be in Ethiopia (this is the central point of yesterdays deal in Pretoria), and don't try to draw on the logic of Badme here.

You are going to end up in a confusion, if you take that route.

I thought that you are someone who can come up with a better logic.


If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).


Ethiopia has a constitution!
Which constitution ? The Meles Zenawi constitution that declared Amhara lands as Tigrayan ? Do you want to commit injustice against the Amharas using the constitution of the TPLF ?
እንደዚህ ጠንከር ያልክ ጠበቃ አትመሰልኝም ነበር፣ ጎበዝ ጠበቃ ነህ ።

For your information the constitution we have today in the country is the supreme law of the land, it could be bad or good. Fact is that it is the one.

Many people in Ethiopia agreed upon it and adopted it, for the simple reason that to have one is better than to have none.
" Many people " doesn't include the 40-50 million Amharas. They reject the TPLF constitution.
I don't know how many of them agreed upon it and how many didn't. I don't know also where you have your figure. But one thing is fact that you have to get it straightened.

The claim 40 - 50 didn't agree is simply false. አረት ነጥብ!

You can't disown something like a constitution based on whom it belongs to, be it to this or that body, it can even belong to the devil, if the devil ware able to author one, but based on the content of the document and which issues (interest of the stakeholders) it addresses on the ground.

Could you provide your source where you got the 40 - 50 Millions figure?

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Nov 2022, 17:45

DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:36
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:24
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:17
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:06
DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 17:00
Abe Abraham wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 16:55




If you divide the country into kilils with kilils having their well-defined borders then you can not simply dismiss our discussion by saying " Amhara is in Ethiopia, Tigray as well ". For the Amharas it matters a lot that they get their historical and ancestral lands back. You seem to see things disinterested and from afar.

The issue is not about living together ( abro menor ).


Ethiopia has a constitution!
Which constitution ? The Meles Zenawi constitution that declared Amhara lands as Tigrayan ? Do you want to commit injustice against the Amharas using the constitution of the TPLF ?
እንደዚህ ጠንከር ያልክ ጠበቃ አትመሰልኝም ነበር፣ ጎበዝ ጠበቃ ነህ ።

For your information the constitution we have today in the country is the supreme law of the land, it could be bad or good. Fact is that it is the one.

Many people in Ethiopia agreed upon it and adopted it, for the simple reason that to have one is better than to have none.
" Many people " doesn't include the 40-50 million Amharas. They reject the TPLF constitution.
I don't know how many of them agreed upon it and how many didn't. I don't know also where you have your figure. But one thing is fact that you have to get it straightened.

The claim 40 - 50 didn't agree is simply false. አረት ነጥብ!

You can't disown something like a constitution based on whom it belongs to, be it to this or that body, it can even belong to the devil, if the devil ware able to author one, but based on the content of the document and which issues (interest of the stakeholders) it addresses on the ground.

Could you provide your source where you got the 40 - 50 Millions figure?
Even if you reduce it to 20 million still the population size is significant.

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Hawdian » 03 Nov 2022, 18:16

AA

Your Shabbo bros and the Amhara are delusional. In secrecy they are crying knowning TDF defeated them in every way possible.

They are putting on a facade. Nothing new...walk up and down, chest up, old rifle zarrraaff zarrraaff zarrraaff zarrraaff

They are angry with anyone who tells them the truth
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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Sadacha Macca » 03 Nov 2022, 18:21

Abe, are you ethiopian (tigrayan? amara? oromo??} or eritrean?


Is fano a government recognized army or a government of its own, that it is able to be present anywhere in the first place? or are there two different armies in Ethiopia?
secondly, if endf takes control of it, that is one thing-and not illegal or immoral, but if it were to give it to tigray (and UNTIL that occurs), that's an entirely different thing.
Mere speculation and rumors spread by potential cadres on tplf's payroll- a payroll that includes some opportunists from among Amara's, Oromo's, Somali's, etc, isn't sufficient as proof.

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 03 Nov 2022, 18:30

Abe Abrham ትላንት ስምምነቱ ከተፈረመ ጀምሮ ጤናው ደህና አይመስለኝም። በሳምንታት በርግጠኝነት በወር አካባቢ የትላንቱ ስምምነት ውጤት ምን እንደሆነ ይታወቃል። ማመዛዘን ለሚችል ሰው ከአሁኑ ምን እንደሚሆን መገመት የሚያስችሉ አዝማሚያዎች እየታዩ ነው። ህወሓት እስካሁን እንዲኖር ያደረገው የአሜሪካ ተፅእኖ ነው። አሁን ያ ተፅእኖ የለም ብሎ መናገር ያስደፍራል። Without it አለም እየቀለበው ጦርነት ማካሄድ ህወሓት አይችልም።

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Re: Reports:Fano forces being removed from Raya(Amhara kilil) as gov. plans to take control of Amhara lands on behalf of

Post by Right » 03 Nov 2022, 18:40

Professor DTT,
Many people in Ethiopia agreed upon it and adopted? Really? You are wrong.
It is a Weyannies constitution which is the source of all troubles in Ethiopia today.
Ethiopians want to get rid off it and they will.

Good luck with your new partner. Just remember that it will not be that far the table will turn. The way you guys are handling crisis, my god! 2 years ago, Members of the Northern command have been butchered savagely and now the killers are walking on a red mat with Abiye Ahmed. You guys are the laughing stock of the world.

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