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Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by banebris2013 » 03 May 2021, 18:29



Naom Zeleke thought he could just rant and lie his way out it. He tried to disrespect the Tigran lady like he accustomed to do, before the lady put him back to his place. She told him that he is an old man with no manners and added that she participated in the debate out of the respect for the media, not him.
Mr Zeleke was ranting what the Amhara media is propagating, the usual genocide. which this days becoming synonymous to being Amhara.

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 03 May 2021, 18:35

What is so musing is observing the paradox that the Oromos are cheering for the Tplf renegades while at the same time the government at the home front is working tirelessly to install Oromo hegemony.

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by Noble Amhara » 03 May 2021, 19:00

So? We won the war deal with it yo can declare independence in barren Tigray and stop speaking Amharic Bandas you have no say across Amhara Tekeze border

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by banebris2013 » 03 May 2021, 19:21

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
03 May 2021, 18:35
What is so musing is observing the paradox that the Oromos are cheering for the Tplf renegades while at the same time the government at the home front is working tirelessly to install Oromo hegemony.
Listen to the video and make your unbiased opinion, which i did. My comment is based on what i heard from the debate. It was a reasonable debate, except for Mr Zeleke tried to disrespect the lady and put back to his place. It is like old habit never dies. There is a huge difference between standing for justice and cheering for TPLF. One of place government used full fledged army together with foreign army against its citizens was Syria. Now that list includes Ethiopia. Oromo stands for justice everywhere, including Tigray and Amhara region where Qimants are being treated as second class citizens.

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by Noble Amhara » 03 May 2021, 19:28

And Amhara stands for Gedeo and Amoro and Dorze people that are not only being treated as second class but are being exterminated by expansionist Oromo shiftas

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Called "an old" with no manner

Post by banebris2013 » 03 May 2021, 19:41

banebris2013 wrote:
03 May 2021, 18:29


Naom Zeleke thought he could just rant and lie his way out it. He tried to disrespect the Tigran lady like he accustomed to do, before the lady put him back to his place. She told him that he is an old man with no manners and added that she participated in the debate out of the respect for the media, not him.
Mr Zeleke was ranting what the Amhara media is propagating, the usual genocide, which this days become synonymous to being Amhara.

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Post by TGAA » 03 May 2021, 20:52

banebris2013 wrote:
03 May 2021, 18:29


Naom Zeleke thought he could just rant and lie his way out it. He tried to disrespect the Tigran lady like he accustomed to do, before the lady put him back to his place. She told him that he is an old man with no manners and added that she participated in the debate out of the respect for the media, not him.
Mr Zeleke was ranting what the Amhara media is propagating, the usual genocide. which this days becoming synonymous to being Amhara.
banebris2013, Look at your characterization of the debat " Naom Zeleke "ranting and lying " disrespectful . The Tigrian lady told him he's an "old man " "no manners" Zeleke was ranting with Amhara media propaganda " Genocide becoming = Amhara' .
It is obvious no evidence is needed for already convinced. The synchronized dance between OLFts and Weyenaties gotten you mesmerized, so piling on Naom Zelek a breath. He is laying but the weyaneties and Orofits anti-Ethiopians are a fountain of truth according to you. on the face of a cluless ferenge who has a fleeting idea of what has been going on in Ethiopia for the past 27 years and what really going now to feed this gulible ferengs a crisp false statement can make you a winner. Meles has been a king using "of quick unverifiable statements, to send ferenges for a goose hunt. So I have to admit that showing of anger (however justified ) doesn't give you an advantage on a debit .. Naom didn't serve himself in that regard. But the facts are which you can not deny that the TPLF has made it clear that it is going to attack the Ethiopian national army before and after the fact. So TPLF is guilty of the crime. What Ethiopia did to call Eritreans, to use Eritrea to regroup the Ethiopian army to go after TPLF army is justified under any circumstances. Without stating what weynes had done against the Ethiopian Army , to fake grievance about what Eritreans have done to Weyane army is a moot case. Tigrians want to kill Ethiopia, Eritreans came to rescue it. kudos for Eritreans, we are indebted to them. One qualification here is that aside wyeanes 10 feet long propaganda tongue ,if any attack against civilians was committed that needs to be checked and dealt with by both the Ethiopian army and Eritreans army. And they should do it transparently. If you look at it only from a factual angle Neamin has done a good job of it, but if you look at it from the synchronized dance between weyane supporters and Olifits . They were impressive. Statements from the certain Giday EPDRF or TPLF" democratically elected" " Gabisa " Abiy want to bring back the old imperial Ethiopia " you put a lot of premium on appearance not on the substance of the argument. That is your choice but don't oversell it -Cause at the end of it substance overcomes an appearance.

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by EPRDF » 04 May 2021, 17:28

Watching this video on how the G7 enderasae, Neamin zeleQe, defends the human rights abuses in Tigray, it is self-evident and indubitable that Genbot 7 is now in charge of Ethiopia with the collaboration of their mentor AfeworQi of Eritrea.

PM Abiy Ahmed is for G7 is exactly what PM Hailemariam Desalegn used to be for Woyane. Nothing more nothing less!

Now, my 2pennies on the debate. Like father and son, Ato Neamin ZeleQe, the son of Colonel Zeleqe, the governor of Harar during Dergue’s era, one of the Notorious killers of the Mengistu’s regime and who executed many young souls in the cities of Harar and Diredawa in the red terror campaign now pop up on the international media after forty years to defend his father’s legacy, the rape and killing of innocent people of Tigray. No surprise it is a family DNA I assume.

He tried hard to justify his cause by mixing the murder and rape of innocents with the wrongdoing of Woyane in the past. Our whole world knows what Woyane did and what exactly happened in Ethiopia under Woyane's reign. The debate was supposed to be about what is going on now on the ground and Ato Neamin, in his Gulet Qibe Berenda behavior, interrupting the speakers and driving the center of the discussion completely out of the context. What an embarrassment!

But, kudos to the two young activists who wrapped him up with humiliation for the world to see.

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by banebris2013 » 04 May 2021, 18:42

TGAA wrote:
03 May 2021, 20:52
banebris2013 wrote:
03 May 2021, 18:29


Naom Zeleke thought he could just rant and lie his way out it. He tried to disrespect the Tigran lady like he accustomed to do, before the lady put him back to his place. She told him that he is an old man with no manners and added that she participated in the debate out of the respect for the media, not him.
Mr Zeleke was ranting what the Amhara media is propagating, the usual genocide. which this days becoming synonymous to being Amhara.
banebris2013, Look at your characterization of the debat " Naom Zeleke "ranting and lying " disrespectful . The Tigrian lady told him he's an "old man " "no manners" Zeleke was ranting with Amhara media propaganda " Genocide becoming = Amhara' .
It is obvious no evidence is needed for already convinced. The synchronized dance between OLFts and Weyenaties gotten you mesmerized, so piling on Naom Zelek a breath. He is laying but the weyaneties and Orofits anti-Ethiopians are a fountain of truth according to you. on the face of a cluless ferenge who has a fleeting idea of what has been going on in Ethiopia for the past 27 years and what really going now to feed this gulible ferengs a crisp false statement can make you a winner. Meles has been a king using "of quick unverifiable statements, to send ferenges for a goose hunt. So I have to admit that showing of anger (however justified ) doesn't give you an advantage on a debit .. Naom didn't serve himself in that regard. But the facts are which you can not deny that the TPLF has made it clear that it is going to attack the Ethiopian national army before and after the fact. So TPLF is guilty of the crime. What Ethiopia did to call Eritreans, to use Eritrea to regroup the Ethiopian army to go after TPLF army is justified under any circumstances. Without stating what weynes had done against the Ethiopian Army , to fake grievance about what Eritreans have done to Weyane army is a moot case. Tigrians want to kill Ethiopia, Eritreans came to rescue it. kudos for Eritreans, we are indebted to them. One qualification here is that aside wyeanes 10 feet long propaganda tongue ,if any attack against civilians was committed that needs to be checked and dealt with by both the Ethiopian army and Eritreans army. And they should do it transparently. If you look at it only from a factual angle Neamin has done a good job of it, but if you look at it from the synchronized dance between weyane supporters and Olifits . They were impressive. Statements from the certain Giday EPDRF or TPLF" democratically elected" " Gabisa " Abiy want to bring back the old imperial Ethiopia " you put a lot of premium on appearance not on the substance of the argument. That is your choice but don't oversell it -Cause at the end of it substance overcomes an appearance.
TGAA,
If you read what i wrote i have never commented on the content of the debate. All i wanted to point out was "the old habit never dies" attitude from Mr Zeleke who tried to spoil the debate by trying to interrupt when the lady was talking. He was extremely disrespectful and arrogant (and got what he deserved). That might be ok with you, but it is an embarrassment to behave that way in such a substantive debate. The fact that you defend his abhorrent behavior on international media show's how extremely biased you are.
As to your comment on OLFits and TPLF, time will tell. I do not know about you, on my side there very little i can do to change the trajectory of these organization. One thing for sure is Ethiopia is close to edge of a cliff. All i do right now is to watch the unfolding drama everyday as i am powerless to do anything about it.

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Post by TGAA » 04 May 2021, 19:40

EPDRF, Nobody will be surprised that you are defending TPLF's crime. Your attempt to dress weyanes crime with human right violation clad and blem one side as the culprit for all what happened in Tigry is as dishonest as it gets. Had Weynas's failed attempt to overrun the Nothdivsion succeeded without a hitch and overthrew Abiy's government, in your picture-perfect assessment, Ethiopians should have expected a rosepetal at their doorsteps. You also know that no one should be on side of the most traitorous weyanes who devoured "their own EDF" while they were fast asleep. But you are willing to put that under the rug cause it doesn't serve your purpose of defending the undefendable. Yes, 27 years of unfettered access to Ethiopian people's wealth had afforded them now to buy influence in the power centers of the west and media, but much worst thing is happening in the other part of Ethiopia. The synchronized dance between Weyanetti and Olfits against Amharas and Eritreans and by extension Abiy doesn't fool anyone. One is fighting for lost Ethnic glory and the other one for Ethnic glory to come. Not for democracy, No for Justice, or for Fraternity. Ethiopians don't have any choice but to fight this ethnic malign to the bitter end. Its surprising that you are bringing Namin's father Mr Zeleke to the picture as if there is a genetic mutation that would make Namin look like a blood-thirsty beast. The weyeans who you are defending in an underhanded way had much more blood in their hand. You can support them as you like but just stop the pretense to be a neutral observer.
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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 04 May 2021, 19:51

EPRDF wrote:
04 May 2021, 17:28
Watching this video on how the G7 enderasae, Neamin zeleQe, defends the human rights abuses in Tigray, it is self-evident and indubitable that Genbot 7 is now in charge of Ethiopia with the collaboration of their mentor AfeworQi of Eritrea.

PM Abiy Ahmed is for G7 is exactly what PM Hailemariam Desalegn used to be for Woyane. Nothing more nothing less!

Now, my 2pennies on the debate. Like father and son, Ato Neamin ZeleQe, the son of Colonel Zeleqe, the governor of Harar during Dergue’s era, one of the Notorious killers of the Mengistu’s regime and who executed many young souls in the cities of Harar and Diredawa in the red terror campaign now pop up on the international media after forty years to defend his father’s legacy, the rape and killing of innocent people of Tigray. No surprise it is a family DNA I assume.

He tried hard to justify his cause by mixing the murder and rape of innocents with the wrongdoing of Woyane in the past. Our whole world knows what Woyane did and what exactly happened in Ethiopia under Woyane's reign. The debate was supposed to be about what is going on now on the ground and Ato Neamin, in his Gulet Qibe Berenda behavior, interrupting the speakers and driving the center of the discussion completely out of the context. What an embarrassment!

But, kudos to the two young activists who wrapped him up with humiliation for the world to see.
As usual you are way off the truth but, mix and hush hearsays that you barely have any clue about. The ZeleQe you are talking about and Commander ZeleQe are two different people. :mrgreen:

You always go as far back to the time of Minilik or far in to hundreds of years to highlight and fortify your points but, talking about the just ended 30 years of TFPL brutal terror reign is a none starter in your wicked logic. How in the world talking about TPLF in the context of the debate becomes irrelevant ? This goes to show the sinking ground you are standing on to make any argument for the defense of TPLF/OLF terror campaign.

The blatant lies and deceptions being employed by the LF apologists would definitely irk any sane human being. Your heartless and amoral defense of such bandas is a proof that your kinds are always for anything that is against Ethiopia in general and, a specific community and religious group in particular, than looking for a workable solution for the country to come out of the self inflicted mess.

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by sun » 04 May 2021, 19:51

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
03 May 2021, 18:35
What is so musing is observing the paradox that the Oromos are cheering for the Tplf renegades while at the same time the government at the home front is working tirelessly to install Oromo hegemony.
Obbo Ilmaknun إلماكنون

The paradox is not what you have said it is but what the fanatic exremist amara boboons (exclude moderate and sober amharas) like you are lying sky high about the folktale mythology of Oromo hegemony found only in your own small brain while the extremist segment of the Oromo activities are moaning, barking and lamenting constantly about the hegemony of Naftagna (you) dictatorship.

Why the hell don't you both extremist habitually moaner baboons take off your tattered t-shirts and meet at the empty and isolated island market place and try to box each other until both of you baboons may get so exhausted and fall flat on your backs, leaving the normal citizens to mind their business in peace and with out your constant paranoid endless lies after lies with no end. Shelemixmaax Fanddiyya Hulla! OKay? Okay!!
:P

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Re: Naom Zeleke Hamilated, Call "an old" with no manner

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 04 May 2021, 20:35

sun wrote:
04 May 2021, 19:51
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
03 May 2021, 18:35
What is so musing is observing the paradox that the Oromos are cheering for the Tplf renegades while at the same time the government at the home front is working tirelessly to install Oromo hegemony.
Obbo Ilmaknun إلماكنون

The paradox is not what you have said it is but what the fanatic exremist amara boboons (exclude moderate and sober amharas) like you are lying sky high about the folktale mythology of Oromo hegemony found only in your own small brain while the extremist segment of the Oromo activities are moaning, barking and lamenting constantly about the hegemony of Naftagna (you) dictatorship.

Why the hell don't you both extremist habitually moaner baboons take off your tattered t-shirts and meet at the empty and isolated island market place and try to box each other until both of you baboons may get so exhausted and fall flat on your backs, leaving the normal citizens to mind their business in peace and with out your constant paranoid endless lies after lies with no end. Shelemixmaax Fanddiyya Hulla! OKay? Okay!!
:P
:mrgreen: Okay !

https://borkena.com/2021/01/06/post-tpl ... ay-kebede/

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