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AbebeB
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ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by AbebeB » 23 Jan 2020, 18:48

መቼ ነው የኢትዮጵያዊነት ጭንብልዎን የሚያወልቁትም ተብሎ ተጠይቋል፡፡ ባልዲ ራስ መልስ አልነበረውም፡፡

ብሔርተኛ ለመሆን የመጀመርያው ጉዳይ በብሔር ስም መደራጀት አንዱ ማሳያ ነው፡፡ ምክንያቱ ሊለያይ ይችላል፡፡ ለምሳሌ የቋንቋ፣ የግዛት ጥያቄ፣ የባህል፡ ሰብዓዊ ጥያቄ (በነጻነት የመኖር) አና ሌሎችም፡፡

ከዚህ ውስጥ አማራ ጥያቄዬ ነው ያለው ምናልባት በነጻነት የመኖር ከሆነና ፍላጎቱ በኢትዮጵያ ጠቅላላ ውስጥ መኖር ከሆነም ብሔርተኛ ነው፡፡ ሁለት ብሔር ጥያቄ (ግዛትና በነጻነት መኖር) አነሣ ማለት ነውና ብሄርተኛ ነው፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ አለኝ ካለ አማራ መታገል ያለበት ሱዳን፣ ኤርትራ፣ ሱማሌያ፣ ኬንያና ሌሎች ዓለማት ውስጥ ብቻ ነው፡፡

የሌሎች ብሄሮች ጥያቄ የቋንቋን ጨምሮ መሆኑ የተለየ አያደርገውም፡፡



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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by TGAA » 23 Jan 2020, 19:13

Abebe the moronic king . You failed again to understand what Eskender has done by going in "the tribal den Betty show "-- He left her in shambles.Had she succeeded to paint him an Amhara nationalist that was a great success for her , but she is so light weight Eskender was able to put her apart and put her back togather. She said there were 100000 tigrians that were uprooted from Amhara land .. Abebe, even though you are a lier - you know 100,000 Tigrans weren't removed from Amhara region. She tried to paint him he is against Tigrans and she failed on that too. She is so lazy she even didn't finish reading the articl she want to accuse him of fascist incarnated . one only need to see how she was flirtatious when she interviewed jawar -- how serious she was when she interviewed Taye Denda , and see how accusatory she was when she interviewed Eskender. Eskender though he shoot down all she was capable of throwing-- Eskender brain at work!

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by AbebeB » 23 Jan 2020, 19:47

TGAA wrote:
23 Jan 2020, 19:13
Abebe the moronic king . You failed again to understand what Eskender has done by going in "the tribal den Betty show "-- He left her in shambles.Had she succeeded to paint him an Amhara nationalist that was a great success for her , but she is so light weight Eskender was able to put her apart and put her back togather. She said there were 100000 tigrians that were uprooted from Amhara land .. Abebe, even though you are a lier - you know 100,000 Tigrans weren't removed from Amhara region. She tried to paint him he is against Tigrans and she failed on that too. She is so lazy she even didn't finish reading the articl she want to accuse him of fascist incarnated . one only need to see how she was flirtatious when she interviewed jawar -- how serious she was when she interviewed Taye Denda , and see how accusatory she was when she interviewed Eskender. Eskender though he shoot down all she was capable of throwing-- Eskender brain at work!
TGAA,
Same to you is what BadiRas did. Mix, distort and lie. While asked about A, he starts describing about Z. An a approach typical to those who claim as Amhara (mixed). Can you please pin point to specific issue among those you claim Betty made wrong in this interview. Other interview must be viewed in its own context.

Yes Tigrawai was displaced by Amhara terrorists. But BadiRas accuses Qeerro. Muslims had been and are victims of Amhara but he denies and try to defend the Amhara evil gangs. Forget if your focus is on how many thousands of Tigrawai was displaced. Also, she raised an issue of Gumuz being victim of Amhara gangs, but he hides under different scenario.

If claims to be Ethiopian (which he is not), he should have raised the issue and expressed his sympathy by condemning those Amhara. He did not.

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by TGAA » 23 Jan 2020, 22:45

Either knowingly or unknowingly you /betty haven't been able to grasp the nuanced explanation Eskendr has given during the interview. Although the queen of exaggeration Betti gave 100,000 number out of a thin air -- the number shouldn't matter. The deed of uprooting any on form their own country for whatever reason is condemnable, and Eskendr condemned the act. The root cause of these inhuman actions is the result of 27 years of weyanes ethnic apartheid system that helped to fan hatred among Ethiopians. We don't need to go further than glimpse what you and your buddies are posting day and night right here. I do remember the explanation Meles the mugget had given in parliament as to why Amharas were uprooted from Oromia " he reasoned that it is not a political but environmental issue that caused the uprooting.. wink ..wink. At the time No weyanne said a hoot about the injustice that was being committed by Mele's righthand man against Amharas, actually weyanes were arguing that it was designed to smear thier visionary leader. Still, though it is not a justification to what happened to innocent Tigrians (not weyanne operatives who were an instrument of Evil) We know the tigrians as people were not organized underground to attack Amharas , though weyanes used the government institutions to abuse Ethiopians. What Eskender was emphasizing was that Keero is organized underground and the leader Jawar has a specific agenda to attack Amharas , other nationalities including Tigrans , the Church. This is a different kind of Organisation without accountability. They have killed more than 200 people in very gruesome ways but no one faced justice for the criminal act they committed. Still, it is a potent terrorist organization that can unlash violence on the behest of Jawar when and where ayatola calls them into action.

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Dawi » 23 Jan 2020, 23:45

AbebeB wrote:
23 Jan 2020, 18:48
መቼ ነው የኢትዮጵያዊነት ጭንብልዎን የሚያወልቁትም ተብሎ ተጠይቋል፡፡ ባልዲ ራስ መልስ አልነበረውም፡፡

ብሔርተኛ ለመሆን የመጀመርያው ጉዳይ በብሔር ስም መደራጀት አንዱ ማሳያ ነው፡፡ ምክንያቱ ሊለያይ ይችላል፡፡ ለምሳሌ የቋንቋ፣ የግዛት ጥያቄ፣ የባህል፡ ሰብዓዊ ጥያቄ (በነጻነት የመኖር) አና ሌሎችም፡፡

ከዚህ ውስጥ አማራ ጥያቄዬ ነው ያለው ምናልባት በነጻነት የመኖር ከሆነና ፍላጎቱ በኢትዮጵያ ጠቅላላ ውስጥ መኖር ከሆነም ብሔርተኛ ነው፡፡ ሁለት ብሔር ጥያቄ (ግዛትና በነጻነት መኖር) አነሣ ማለት ነውና ብሄርተኛ ነው፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ አለኝ ካለ አማራ መታገል ያለበት ሱዳን፣ ኤርትራ፣ ሱማሌያ፣ ኬንያና ሌሎች ዓለማት ውስጥ ብቻ ነው፡፡

የሌሎች ብሄሮች ጥያቄ የቋንቋን ጨምሮ መሆኑ የተለየ አያደርገውም፡፡
አሁን እኮ ፅንፈኞችና (ተረኞች) ለምን ፹፭ ቋንቋ ሚኒሊክ በኢትዮጵያ አላወጀም ብላችሁ ትወቅሳላችሁ፣ :P

እስክንድር ለዚያ መልስ ቤቲን አስታትቋታል፣ በአፍሪካ ያልተጠየቀ በኢትዮጵያ ብቻ የሚጠየቅ የድኩማን ጩኽት መሆኑን ተናግሯል፣
አለቀ ደቀቀ።

ሌላው አማራ ራሱን ለመከላከል ሲደራጅ በዚያ ተገዶ በመካፈሉ "ጭንብል ምናምንህን አውልቅ" ማለቷ የሚያስቅ ነበር፤ ዋናው ጎሳ ላይ ተንጠልጥሎ አለመቅረት ነው፣ እስክንድር ያን አላደረገም።

The following by ጸሐፊ: ክንፉ አሰፋ is a fair assessment of the show:



Once again, I can't help but, give you the following Music:

Eskinder's offer to Betty! Mahmoud Ahmed"s -- Enchi Liben ከፍተሽ እይው!!

Touching!!


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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Ethoash » 24 Jan 2020, 03:33

Dawi wrote:
23 Jan 2020, 23:45
AbebeB wrote:
23 Jan 2020, 18:48
መቼ ነው የኢትዮጵያዊነት ጭንብልዎን የሚያወልቁትም ተብሎ ተጠይቋል፡፡ ባልዲ ራስ መልስ አልነበረውም፡፡
አሁን እኮ ፅንፈኞችና (ተረኞች) ለምን ፹፭ ቋንቋ ሚኒሊክ በኢትዮጵያ አላወጀም ብላችሁ ትወቅሳላችሁ፣ :P
እስክንድር ለዚያ መልስ ቤቲን አስታትቋታል፣ በአፍሪካ ያልተጠየቀ በኢትዮጵያ ብቻ የሚጠየቅ የድኩማን ጩኽት መሆኑን ተናግሯል፣
አለቀ ደቀቀ።
ሌላው አማራ ራሱን ለመከላከል ሲደራጅ በዚያ ተገዶ በመካፈሉ "ጭንብል ምናምንህን አውልቅ" ማለቷ የሚያስቅ ነበር፤ ዋናው ጎሳ ላይ ተንጠልጥሎ አለመቅረት ነው፣ እስክንድር ያን አላደረገም።
i dont blame እስክንድር because he never expects the question hence

መውጫ ቀዳዳ ፈልጎ አፍሪካኖች በሙሉ አንድ ቋንቋ ነው ያላቸው ብሎ መገገሙ በጣም ቢያስቀኝ። ያንተ ደግሞ በሱ ላይ መደረብ። በዛሬ ግዜ ጉግል አርገኸ በምተረዳበት ዘመን ለምን ይዋሻል

በመጀመሪያ እስክንድር ያለው እንኳን እወነት ቢሆን የአፍሪካው እንግሊዘኛው የመጣው እኮ በቅኝ ተገዝተው ተገደው የተማሩት ነው። ልክ እንደአማርኛ አማሮች በግድ ቋንቋቸውን እንዳስፋፉት። አፍሪካኖች ነፃነታቸውን ሲያገኝ ተመካክረው እንግሊዘኛ የብሔራዊ ቋንቋ ማረጋቸው ማንኛውም ቋንቋ የበላይነት እንዳይስማው ስለሚጠቅም ሁሉም እንግሊዘኛ ይማራል ። ግን በኢትዬዽያ አማሮች ለራስ ሲቆርሱ አያሳንሱ በለው አማርኛን የብሔራዊ ቋንቋ አረጉት ። በዛን ግዜ እንግሊዘኛን የብሔራዊ ቋንቋችን ብናረገው ኖሮ ይህ ሁሉ ጥል ይሆር ነበር ውይ።

እኔ ያልገባኝ እንዚህ አማሮች ታጥበው ጭቃ መኖናቸው ትናንት ኤርትራ ቋንቋየን ቀማቹሁ ብላ ከኢትዬዽያ ተገነጠለች ። ኦሮሞችም ለመገንጠል ፈልገው ነበር ቋንቋቸው ሲከበርላቸው ነው ተመልስው ኢትዬዽያዊ የሆኑት እንጂ ሄደው ነበር። አሁንም የፈለገው ሰው የፈለገውን ይበል ኦሮሞዎች በተሀምርም ቋንቋቸውን ለአማርኛ አሳልፈው አይስጡም እንግሊዘኛ ቢሆን እንኮን በጠቅላላ ከአለም ሕዝብ ጋራ ለመነጋገር ስለሚጠቅም ይማሩት ነበር ግን አሁን አማርኛ ተማር ወንዝ የማያሻግር እናም ያንተን ቋንቋ አትማር ርሳው ቢባል ጦርነት ነው የሚነሳው ። መልዬ የአራዳ ልጅ የኦሮሞን ቋንቋ መብት አክብሮ ስላም አውርዶ ነበር አዎ ኦሮሞዎቹ ብዙ የመብት ጥያቄ አላቸው ግን ዋናው ቋንቋቸው ነው። የሞቱለታል እንጂ በተሀምርም ኦሮምኛን ገድለው በመቃብሩ አማርኛን አይተክሉም ይህ ከታወቀ ታድያ የምን መንዛዛት ነው።

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by TGAA » 24 Jan 2020, 04:13

There is no cure for self-induced Chronic inferiority complex. You are willing to share offshore colonial language without flinching,but to learn the language of your kind is a bitter pill to swallow. All the countries you quated to have two or three national languages do you know how many languages are spoken? Proportion to the language spoken it almost nothing. You have to consider too that oromafia in written form excited just 27 years .. comparing to gezz language it is in its infancy.

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Dawi » 24 Jan 2020, 13:23

TGAA wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 04:13
There is no cure for self-induced Chronic inferiority complex. You are willing to share offshore colonial language without flinching,but to learn the language of your kind is a bitter pill to swallow. All the countries you quated to have two or three national languages do you know how many languages are spoken? Proportion to the language spoken it almost nothing. You have to consider too that oromafia in written form excited just 27 years .. comparing to gezz language it is in its infancy.
Ethoash,

I share what TGAA said mostly; further more, I can't be sure if you've even listened to the whole interview of that LTV show.

In the first place Betty was playing a devil's advocate in that show but, the calm Eskinder showed her what he is made of.

He opened up his chest to show her his heart, so to speak. :P We all know that man has a big heart! he is also a very humble individual.

He stated unequivocally supporting the rights of groups to use and develop their languages. So,we have no disagreement there. Betty has taken his answer positively. Why didn't you?

In Kenya, he pointed out, English & Swahili are the official languages; Swahili is a minority language among 50 or more languages. Do you hear Kenyans complaining? There are reasons why a language like Amharic succeeded. Remember, Ethiopians used Geez in the beginning, the alphabet came from that and so on; what is the purpose of accusing Amaras inventing and imposing it on others now? Unless, to make them the Bogeyman?

No one said Afan Oromo or other languages shouldn't be developed to a national level. My take is, let us have our priorities straight first. Don't try to destroy what is already built and working well, add on top of it when you can.

I like the following approach of Dr. Abiy. He is trying to built on top of what we already have.


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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Abe Abraham » 24 Jan 2020, 13:56


In 1945, when Indonesia declared its independence, Indonesian was formally declared the national language,despite being the native language of only about 5% of the population. In contrast, Javanese and Sundanese were the mother tongues of 42–48% and 15% respectively. The combination of nationalistic, political, and practical concerns ultimately led to the successful adoption of Indonesian as a national language. In 1945, Javanese was easily the most prominent language in Indonesia. It was the native language of nearly half the population, the primary language of politics and economics, and the language of courtly, religious, and literary tradition. What it lacked, however, was the ability to unite the diverse Indonesian population as a whole. With thousands of islands and hundreds of different languages, the newly independent country of Indonesia had to find a national language that could realistically be spoken by the majority of the population and that would not divide the nation by favouring one ethnic group, namely the Javanese, over the others. In 1945, Indonesian was already in widespread use; in fact, it had been for roughly a thousand years. Over that long period, Malay, which would later become standardised as Indonesian, was the primary language of commerce and travel. It was also the language used for the propagation of Islam in the 13th to 17th centuries, as well as the language of instruction used by Portuguese and Dutch missionaries attempting to convert the indigenous people to Christianity.The combination of these factors meant that the language was already known to some degree by most of the population, and it could be more easily adopted as the national language than perhaps any other. Moreover, it was the language of the sultanate of Brunei and of future Malaysia, on which some Indonesian nationalists had claims.

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Ethoash » 24 Jan 2020, 14:42

Abe Abraham wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 13:56

In 1945, when Indonesia declared its independence, Indonesian was formally declared the national language,despite being the native language of only about 5% of the population. s.
Abe Abraham,

since u r online pls answer this ..

Golden Meles kept the buda language the same reason that u google and wasted reading when u have the example at home.. Meles did not even opposed when the South choice Amhric as their lingua franca...

now what the oromo and other major language saying is they going to keep Amharic as their national language side by side with their own regional language now tell me where they go wrong ... Tplf did not ban Amharic in any region so i dont see where is the wrong ...

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Ethoash » 24 Jan 2020, 15:19

Dawi wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 13:23
TGAA wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 04:13
There is no cure for self-induced Chronic inferiority complex. .
Ethoash,

In Kenya, he pointed out, English & Swahili are the official languages; Swahili is a minority language among 50 or more languages. Do you hear Kenyans complaining?

dear Dawit, and TGRAY

i am happy that we have people like u u r doing my job why should i ,

Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself

Napoleon

dear TGRAY,

I GIVE u English as example where the other Africa choice English to make the selection fair, beside the English widely used

in Ethiopia we also learn English as our secondary language from grand 7 up to university level .. all the problem would have avoided had we learn English from grand one just like Amhric and learn Amharic like one subject ... we would have communicated in English across regional border and international border kill two bird in one stone..

another point u rise English is outside colonizer language, fair but the Amrhic also expanded by black colonizer too, we Ethiopia r not colonized by white but we were colonized by black backward colonizer hence we have Amhric as our national language all we want is to upgrade the language requirement and force the Amhara to learn a second language and ask everyone to use ግዕዝ as their writing system.. it is very simple .. even oromo refused to learn Amharic it is Amhara advantage to learn afan oromia ..i dont see any drawback

ግን አማሮች የበላይነታቸውን ለማስጠበቅ አማርኛ በኦሮሞ ላይ ጫኑበት ። እሺ ሁሉም አማርኛ ይናገሩ የአገራችን ቋንቋ ነው ከተባል ለምን አማሮች (በጎጃምና በጎንደር ውስጥ)ሁለተኛ ቋንቋ ለምን አይማሩም ነበር ፌር ለማርግ ። ኦሮምኛንም በአማርኛ ፊደል ለምን አያስተምሩም ነበር ልክ እንደ አንድ subject... if everyone learn two language one official one second language of the student choice but all language written in Amhric would have been the solution


let me break it down if u dont understand

let say u r student in Amhara region .. u only learn Amahric because Amhric is our national language so u dont have to study a second language

but if u r oromo, Somalia and Golden u have to study two language it would not be fair because if one Amahra and oromo got the same result in all subject but the Amhara got A and the oromo get B. who is going to go to university .. but if the Amhara also have to pass Afan oromia the result will be balanced and fair ..

this is not only the reason everyone will stop complaining because they see we have fair system....

in concussion,

i dont care what Kenya or any other Africa do or not do.. i just give an example how they solved their problem it is your prerogative to accept their solution or not ... what i am saying is we dont have to copy them but we can see how they solved their problem and we improve on it and solve our problem in our own way..

here is our own way.. take it or leave it..


1. all Ethiopian will study Amharic as national language
2. all Ethiopia will study a second language of their own choice and
3. regional government decided what type of alphabet they may use Latin or Amrhic alphabet
4. regardless of their choice all 3 option will be local issue
5. fed. government use Amhric as working language and one second language depending where the fed. office located , if they r located in oromia then the second language will be oromia if they r located in Golden state then the second language will be Golden
6. regardless of all 84 language will be used based on one need at fed. level
7. regional government also work in both regional and national language.... they r also responsible creating all their school curriculum
8. all private business have no oblation to speak to u in Amhric or provided u with Amhric translators they can choice to speak in any language they want while all fed. government provided u with language translation service

now u can take this solution or circle with all your endless reasoning why we should not continues with our old system.. that is your choice to make .. but we try to imposed Amrhirc on Eritrea u know what happened we try to do with oromo and Somalia they revolted they only come back to their senses because tplf introduce language rule .. if u think the tplf language rule is not good and u want to do it your way.. then why should i interrupted u go make my day..


there is a rumor that the African leader told king haile that we need one African language as our national language the king agreed but he suggested Amharic as African national language the African union founding father did not agree with king haile choice so they went out and created their own new language a man made language Swahili it is made up language so they go back to king haile and told him we r willing to take Amhric alphabet but we going to use Swahili as our African national language the king refused to learn Swahili and the deal break that is why the African leader choice their colonial language instead of their own local language and create hell on earth .. this the only choice the African founding father did right a language issue

have a nice life.. and i am done with language issue.. do what ever you want to do i just seat and laugh ..knowing i did everything i can ... to stop u and u dont listen then time to learn from your failure

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Post by Abe Abraham » 24 Jan 2020, 15:21

Ethoash wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 14:42
Abe Abraham wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 13:56

In 1945, when Indonesia declared its independence, Indonesian was formally declared the national language,despite being the native language of only about 5% of the population. s.
Abe Abraham,

since u r online pls answer this ..

Golden Meles kept the buda language the same reason that u google and wasted reading when u have the example at home.. Meles did not even opposed when the South choice Amhric as their lingua franca...

now what the oromo and other major language saying is they going to keep Amharic as their national language side by side with their own regional language now tell me where they go wrong ... Tplf did not ban Amharic in any region so i dont see where is the wrong ...
They are not wrong. They have a lot of work to do ahead. If you do not improve your language by yourself ( producing material for education ) no one is going to do it for you. Betty sounded simplistic when she mentioned oppression with out further talking about the other side of the equation.

Meles , driven by short-term gains, didn't serve the interest of the people of Tigray in Ethiopia. He neglected their language and culture and left them surrounded by enemies.



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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by AbebeB » 24 Jan 2020, 15:45

TGAA wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 04:13
There ... You are willing to share offshore colonial language without flinching, but to learn the language of your kind is a bitter pill to swallow. ...
TGAA,

Ethoash እኮ ነግሮሀል፡፡
ወንዝ የማያሻግር አማርኛ ቋንቋ ስለምን ልማር? ኢንግሊዝኛ እኮ ቢያንስ ስኮላርሽፕ ያስገኛል፣ ተሰድደንም በሀገራቸው ስንኖር እንጠቀማለን፡፡ አማራ እኮ የመጨረሻ ድሀ ደግሞ ቋንቋዬን ተማሩልኝ የሚል ደንቆሮ ነው፡፡ እኔ እስከሚገባኝ ድረስ አማራ ለኦሮሞ ማቅረብ የሚገባው ጣያቄ ቋንቋህን ተምሬ በሀገርህ ልኑር የሚል መሆን ሲገባው መልሶ ልብ አድርቅ ሆነ፡፡ ለማንኛው ባቡሩ እየተጓዘ ነውና ያልተመቸው ይውረድ፡፡

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Post by Ethoash » 24 Jan 2020, 16:24

AbebeB wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 15:45
TGAA wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 04:13
There ... You are willing to share offshore colonial language without flinching, but to learn the language of your kind is a bitter pill to swallow. ...
TGAA,

Ethoash እኮ ነግሮሀል፡፡
ወንዝ የማያሻግር አማርኛ ቋንቋ ስለምን ልማር? ኢንግሊዝኛ እኮ ቢያንስ ስኮላርሽፕ ያስገኛል፣ ተሰድደንም በሀገራቸው ስንኖር እንጠቀማለን፡፡ አማራ እኮ የመጨረሻ ድሀ ደግሞ ቋንቋዬን ተማሩልኝ የሚል ደንቆሮ ነው፡፡ እኔ እስከሚገባኝ ድረስ አማራ ለኦሮሞ ማቅረብ የሚገባው ጣያቄ ቋንቋህን ተምሬ በሀገርህ ልኑር የሚል መሆን ሲገባው መልሶ ልብ አድርቅ ሆነ፡፡ ለማንኛው ባቡሩ እየተጓዘ ነውና ያልተመቸው ይውረድ፡፡
AbebeB

u r killing me,

do u remember ሻላቃ ዳዊት ወልደ-ጊዮርጊስ was Governor of Eritrea and lived in Eritrea for 17 years of Derg time but never learned the local language .. this is the people we r dealing with... how in hell u r governor of Eritrea and u dont learn their language .. this level of arrogant is beyond imagination... this buda Amhara is not only they show their arrogant inside Ethiopia .. when they send Ambassador to Arab country they send Christian guy who doesn't know Arabic or hate Arab people while the Eritrean Christian telling the Arab Ethiopia oppress us because we r Muslim even Issu speak flaunt Arabic, but as Ambassador at least u should know the local language or try to learn it ... even Amhric try to send Ambassador who r flaunt in Arabic the understand the game even the Canadian send their Representative in Eritrea who is Eritrean Canadian the Israel send Ethiopian jew who was born in Ethiopia and speak Amhric ... this people think their Amhric is superior language

even the golden learned fast and send Somalian Ethiopia as Ambassador to Somalia and Djibouti they also send Muslim Ethiopia to Arab countries this people trying hard to move a head..it is waste of time to tell them anything... as of now even oromo learn Afan oromia and Amhairc this is what they r fighting to keep which they should not fight for it.. the Amhara should be happy as it is but they r rocking the boat.. the oromo have full right to say ban Amhric totally what the hell r they going to do.. nothing beside running their mouth and wasting our time.. we could have talk about many economy subject but we r wasting with this language right that is solved 27 years ago and they want to take it back and trust me this push will be the end of mama Ethiopia no body benefit including Amhara so i suggest all other ethnic must unite and kick the Amhara out of the union..

you dont give the final ultimatum... stop talking expanding Amharic stop removing fed system stop denying king milk evil. stop denying history in general, stop stop stop what ever you dont and mind your own business if they refused then we should kick them out .. even if we dont kick them out if every region united against them and tell them u will be out of the union they will be quite for next 3000 years ... if they dont shut their mouth then ban them from having political party and media if they say no then kick them out or boycott them ... just like AMERICA DOING ON IRAN OR Eritrea... or introduce all kind of law that affect them for example u should know second language to work in government job 98% amhra will be fired for not know a second language, in industrial park make requirement to speak the local language this law protect the local job for local instead of Amhara coming from Gojjam and Gonder and jump the que the line

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by AbebeB » 24 Jan 2020, 17:08

Ethoash wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 16:24
AbebeB wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 15:45
TGAA wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 04:13
There ... You are willing to share offshore colonial language without flinching, but to learn the language of your kind is a bitter pill to swallow. ...
TGAA,

Ethoash እኮ ነግሮሀል፡፡
ወንዝ የማያሻግር አማርኛ ቋንቋ ስለምን ልማር? ኢንግሊዝኛ እኮ ቢያንስ ስኮላርሽፕ ያስገኛል፣ ተሰድደንም በሀገራቸው ስንኖር እንጠቀማለን፡፡ አማራ እኮ የመጨረሻ ድሀ ደግሞ ቋንቋዬን ተማሩልኝ የሚል ደንቆሮ ነው፡፡ እኔ እስከሚገባኝ ድረስ አማራ ለኦሮሞ ማቅረብ የሚገባው ጣያቄ ቋንቋህን ተምሬ በሀገርህ ልኑር የሚል መሆን ሲገባው መልሶ ልብ አድርቅ ሆነ፡፡ ለማንኛው ባቡሩ እየተጓዘ ነውና ያልተመቸው ይውረድ፡፡
AbebeB

u r killing me,

do u remember ሻላቃ ዳዊት ወልደ-ጊዮርጊስ was Governor of Eritrea and lived in Eritrea for 17 years of Derg time but never learned the local language.
Ethoash,
Amhara direct settlers or born in Oromia from their settler descendants are not willing to learn Afaan Oromo throughout their life time. I mean with the exception for their direct begging, they never officially speak Afaan Oromo.

These are the people claiming to continue living in Oromia.

ሻለቃ ደዌ በኦሮሚያ ላለው ሁኔታም አንዱ ምሳሌ ነው፡፡ የተወለደው ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ነው፡፡ አስከ ጉልምስናው (ኤርትራ እስኪመጣ ማለት ነው) የኖረውም ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ነበር፡፡ አፋን ኦሮሞን መቻል ሳይሆን ጥላቻውን ቢቀንስ እንኳ አንድ ነገር ነው፡፡ ቆማጦች እንዲህ ናቸው፡፡

They have no arrogant parallel in the globe.

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Post by Dawi » 25 Jan 2020, 00:20

Ethoash wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 16:24
AbebeB

u r killing me,

do u remember ሻላቃ ዳዊት ወልደ-ጊዮርጊስ was Governor of Eritrea and lived in Eritrea for 17 years of Derg time but never learned the local language .. this is the people we r dealing with... how in hell u r governor of Eritrea and u dont learn their language .. this level of arrogant is beyond imagination... this buda Amhara is not only they show their arrogant inside Ethiopia ..
Ethoash,

You need to know the space and time line you're talking about? Otherwise, you'll be talking nonsense!

We had a unitary government and there was a national language in Ethiopia which has evolved from Geez to Amharic; ሻላቃ ዳዊት was the governor of Eritrea so, talking about whether the governor learned to speak Afar Af, Kunama or other languages spoken in Eritrea is irreverent here. PIA is good but, do you think he speaks all languages in Eritrea? What are you talking about?

In the following Betty of LTV puts Prof. Ezekiel on the spot. Betty the "vampire slasher"! :lol:

The fact is known today that an Oromo ruling class owned most land in Ethiopia during HIM time. Surprise! Surprise! No amount of lies to make the Amara the bogeyman is working for all you losers!


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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Abe Abraham » 25 Jan 2020, 22:22

Dawi wrote:
25 Jan 2020, 00:20
Ethoash wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 16:24
AbebeB

u r killing me,

do u remember ሻላቃ ዳዊት ወልደ-ጊዮርጊስ was Governor of Eritrea and lived in Eritrea for 17 years of Derg time but never learned the local language .. this is the people we r dealing with... how in hell u r governor of Eritrea and u dont learn their language .. this level of arrogant is beyond imagination... this buda Amhara is not only they show their arrogant inside Ethiopia ..
Ethoash,

You need to know the space and time line you're talking about? Otherwise, you'll be talking nonsense!

We had a unitary government and there was a national language in Ethiopia which has evolved from Geez to Amharic; ሻላቃ ዳዊት was the governor of Eritrea so, talking about whether the governor learned to speak Afar Af, Kunama or other languages spoken in Eritrea is irreverent here. PIA is good but, do you think he speaks all languages in Eritrea? What are you talking about?

In the following Betty of LTV puts Prof. Ezekiel on the spot. Betty the "vampire slasher"! :lol:

The fact is known today that an Oromo ruling class owned most land in Ethiopia during HIM time. Surprise! Surprise! No amount of lies to make the Amara the bogeyman is working for all you losers!

Your brain works in a very strange way.

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Re: ባልዲራስን በእፍረት የሸኘቸው ጀግናዋ ጋዜጠኛ፡፡ የቋንቋ ጥያቄ ስላላነሣሁ ብሔርተኛ አይደለሁም ግን የአማራ አደራጅና መሪ ነኝ፤ እንዴት ያለ ጋጠወጥ (arrogant) መልስ ነው?

Post by Ethoash » 26 Jan 2020, 02:38

Dawi wrote:
25 Jan 2020, 00:20


Ethoash,

We had a unitary government and there was a national language in Ethiopia which has evolved from Geez to Amharic; ሻላቃ ዳዊት was the governor of Eritrea so, talking about whether the governor learned to speak Afar Af, Kunama or other languages spoken in Eritrea is irreverent here. PIA is good but, do you think he speaks all languages in Eritrea? What are you talking about?
Dawit,

no body said ሻላቃ ዳዊት speak all 84 Ethiopian languages.. but if he was a governor of Eritrea then he must learn the major language .. but if he work in kumama then he must learn Kumama .. had ሻላቃ ዳዊት learn Golden he would be more effective then seen as a colonizer....

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Post by AbebeB » 26 Jan 2020, 12:34

Ethoash wrote:
26 Jan 2020, 02:38
Dawi wrote:
25 Jan 2020, 00:20

Ethoash,
We had a unitary government and there was a national language in Ethiopia which has evolved from Geez to Amharic; ሻላቃ ዳዊት was the governor of Eritrea so, talking about whether the governor learned to speak Afar Af, Kunama or other languages spoken in Eritrea is irreverent here. PIA is good but, do you think he speaks all languages in Eritrea? What are you talking about?
Dawit,
no body said ሻላቃ ዳዊት speak all 84 Ethiopian languages.. but if he was a governor of Eritrea then he must learn the major language .. but if he work in kumama then he must learn Kumama .. had ሻላቃ ዳዊት learn Golden he would be more effective then seen as a colonizer....
Ethoash,

Like Major Dawit Welete Giorgis, Amhara direct settlers or born in Oromia from their settler descendants are not willing to learn Afaan Oromo throughout their life time. I mean with the exception for their direct begging, they never officially speak Afaan Oromo. These are the people claiming to continue living in Oromia.

ሻለቃ ደዌ በኦሮሚያ ላለው ሁኔታም አንዱ ምሳሌ ነው፡፡ የተወለደው ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ነው፡፡ አስከ ጉልምስናው (ኤርትራ እስኪመጣ ማለት ነው) የኖረውም ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ነበር፡፡ አፋን ኦሮሞን መቻል ሳይሆን ጥላቻውን ቢቀንስ እንኳ አንድ ነገር ነው፡፡ ቆማጦች እንዲህ ናቸው፡፡

They have no arrogant parallel in the globe.

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Post by Ethoash » 27 Jan 2020, 03:20

AbebeB wrote:
26 Jan 2020, 12:34

ሻለቃ ደዌ በኦሮሚያ ላለው ሁኔታም አንዱ ምሳሌ ነው፡፡ የተወለደው ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ነው፡፡ አስከ ጉልምስናው (ኤርትራ እስኪመጣ ማለት ነው) የኖረውም ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ነበር፡፡ አፋን ኦሮሞን መቻል ሳይሆን ጥላቻውን ቢቀንስ እንኳ አንድ ነገር ነው፡፡ ቆማጦች እንዲህ ናቸው፡፡

They have no arrogant parallel in the globe.

if Amhara rule continued for another 100 years all ethnic language and culture would have been lost.. thanks Golden for stopping this evil ...this idiot even try to argue with u if Amhara was into Amharinzation then how come 84 ethnic languages survived.... the answer is very simple Amharic only expanded by teaching u.. hence u need school the Amhara was so poor to do that is why the ethnic language survived but in city where the Amhara harm reach most of the residence converted to Amhranization ......... I don't mind if we lose only the language but we lose more then the language when we destroy once culture they have 1000 years of knowledge as an asset ... for example, the Amhara never adopt children there is no word for adoption in Amhara but the Oromo have this culture . the Oromo have democracy culture .... even once i was surprised that ወላታ have 50 kind of food item while the Golden has only five item.. but the Golden is good in enterprise and nation-building and governing they also have an art of war no one can match them so each and every one of them have great value they can have they should never be destroyed even watch today we enjoy the Souther music

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