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Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by sarcasm » 05 Oct 2024, 11:48

Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

TPLF currently holds 50+1 percent power of in Interim Regional Administration of Tigray (IRA). The two wings of TPLF have to be made to share that part. The other 3 stakeholders, namely the military, Global Society of Tigray Scholars and Professionals (GSTS) or the diaspora, and opposition political party Baytona keep their current shares.

The two wings of TPLF should not be asked to re-unite. They should remain as two separate parties. Therefore, the Tigray Government will be a government of national unity / a coalition made up groups with minority controls, similar to what is happening in South Africa. No group will have 50+1 control.

Tigray is better off with two parties rather than a single big party ruling Tigray election after election. This is a good opportunity for a two-party system in Tigray.

This can only happen if the General Tadesse and his group / the military initiate and facilitate the conversations.


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Re: Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by Fed_Up » 05 Oct 2024, 11:55

sarcasm wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 11:48
Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

TPLF currently holds 50+1 percent power of in Interim Regional Administration of Tigray (IRA). The two wings of TPLF have to be made to share that part. The other 3 stakeholders, namely the military, Global Society of Tigray Scholars and Professionals (GSTS) or the diaspora, and opposition political party Baytona keep their current shares.

The two wings of TPLF should not be asked to re-unite. They should remain as two separate parties. Therefore, the Tigray Government will be a government of national unity / a coalition made up groups with minority controls, similar to what is happening in South Africa. No group will have 50+1 control.

Tigray is better off with two parties rather than a single big party ruling Tigray election after election. This is a good opportunity for a two-party system in Tigray.

This can only happen if the General Tadesse and his group / the military initiate and facilitate the conversations.

Are you saying the so called ”Eritrean” man is formulating how Tigray politics should be. To me something that has never changed. Ehemmmmm!

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Re: Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by Affable » 05 Oct 2024, 14:18

A “ government of national unity ?” What does that mean ? Why Tigray and national is used in the same sentence ?
Whether the TPLF leadership is split or not does not matter unless one faction repudiates the old TPLF politics and policy.
People in Tigray are not spectators of a personality contest. They are not choosing leadership based on whom they like as a person. They choose side based on the political direction that has been offered.

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Re: Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by sarcasm » 05 Oct 2024, 20:14

Fed_Up wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 11:55


Are you saying the so called ”Eritrean” man is formulating how Tigray politics should be. To me something that has never changed. Ehemmmmm!

Amchew,

Imagine if Isaias did not kill the 15 EPLF minsters that opposed him in 2000. Imagine if Isaias allowed them to be a separate political party to actively play a role in Eritrean politics. Eritrea would have an effective two-party system by now. Political parties would win political power in democratic elections by now. Isaias won the ህልኽ with his former friends, but Eritrea has lost. Generations of Eritrean lost the opportunity for a two-party system in Eritrea.

TPLF leaders are as Tigrayan as Isaias. What happened in Tigrigna speaking Eritrea could also happen in Tigrigna speaking tigray. But no Eritrean would want to see Tigray to end up under one man absolute rule like Eritrea. No Eritrean wants to see a Tigray that government minsters would not sit under one roof for 6 years to discuss their country's politics. Do you know that Eritrean cabinet of ministers have not held any meeting for the past six years? Yosief, just like any other Eritrean, does not want Tigray to end up under such government.

Eritrea did not use its golden opportunity for EPLF ministers who did not get on with Isaiais lead EPLF to part their ways peacefully and form alternative opposition party. Tigray is also at a crossroad. There is a Tigrigna saying መለበሚን ኣይግበርካ፤ መለበሚን ኣይኽላእካ። Yosief is saying ካባና ተመሃሩ። Tigray does not have to make mistakes Eritrea made!Something positive could come out of the current shenanigans.

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Re: Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by Fed_Up » 06 Oct 2024, 01:07

sarcasm wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 20:14
Fed_Up wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 11:55


Are you saying the so called ”Eritrean” man is formulating how Tigray politics should be. To me something that has never changed. Ehemmmmm!

Amchew,

Imagine if Isaias did not kill the 15 EPLF minsters that opposed him in 2000. Imagine if Isaias allowed them to be a separate political party to actively play a role in Eritrean politics. Eritrea would have an effective two-party system by now. Political parties would win political power in democratic elections by now. Isaias won the ህልኽ with his former friends, but Eritrea has lost. Generations of Eritrean lost the opportunity for a two-party system in Eritrea.

TPLF leaders are as Tigrayan as Isaias. What happened in Tigrigna speaking Eritrea could also happen in Tigrigna speaking tigray. But no Eritrean would want to see Tigray to end up under one man absolute rule like Eritrea. No Eritrean wants to see a Tigray that government minsters would not sit under one roof for 6 years to discuss their country's politics. Do you know that Eritrean cabinet of ministers have not held any meeting for the past six years? Yosief, just like any other Eritrean, does not want Tigray to end up under such government.

Eritrea did not use its golden opportunity for EPLF ministers who did not get on with Isaiais lead EPLF to part their ways peacefully and form alternative opposition party. Tigray is also at a crossroad. There is a Tigrigna saying መለበሚን ኣይግበርካ፤ መለበሚን ኣይኽላእካ። Yosief is saying ካባና ተመሃሩ። Tigray does not have to make mistakes Eritrea made!Something positive could come out of the current shenanigans.
Agamewww,

Let me make it clear. The G15 conspired with the now deceased TPLF and their handlers to overthrow the Eritrean government and to reverse hard-won eritrean independence. So, please stop distorting the true story to fit your false narratives.

NB: in ethiopia It was widely believed that Isaias and Meles were cousins, but that story died like tplf. If Isaias is Tigraway, then I am a god.

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Post by eden » 06 Oct 2024, 01:23

Let me make it clear. The G15 conspired with the now deceased TPLF and their handlers to overthrow the Eritrean government and to reverse hard-won eritrean independence.
Fendadaw, that’s propaganda. You are victim of that propaganda. G15 was never given its day in court. You sound like Debretsion who is churning out similar propaganda against the other faction. He calling Getachew group traitors just like Isayas called G15 traitors. G15 fought along side Isayas 30 years. Getachew fought alongside Debretsion. You need to wake up fool. It’s all about power.

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Post by Fed_Up » 06 Oct 2024, 10:09

eden wrote:
06 Oct 2024, 01:23
Let me make it clear. The G15 conspired with the now deceased TPLF and their handlers to overthrow the Eritrean government and to reverse hard-won eritrean independence.
Fendadaw, that’s propaganda. You are victim of that propaganda. G15 was never given its day in court. You sound like Debretsion who is churning out similar propaganda against the other faction. He calling Getachew group traitors just like Isayas called G15 traitors. G15 fought along side Isayas 30 years. Getachew fought alongside Debretsion. You need to wake up fool. It’s all about power.
Starvin Marvin AgameW,

It's funny and sad at the same time that you, the AgameW, try to enlighten me about the G15, which then sold its soul to our mortal enemies for luxury. Why are they in prison? Please shushhhhhh! The good thing is we, the eritreans, are always many steps away from our enemies. Since they were Eritrea’s military wing, their court verdict was carried out by the “Marshall court,” so stop saying they have never had a court date.

About Getachew Reda,
We don't need a discussion that He is a 1000% traitor. In fact, the word “traitor” is too weak to describe the obese Getachew and the greedy old agamewoch those who follow him. He switched the entire Agamewich chant from ትግራይ ትስእር to ትግራይ ትሰረር:: he is the mule to Abiy nothing more nothing less. Abiy successfully, skillfully tamed and outsmarted the big mouth vidkachew, and divided the fool agame like you into two factions. Soon you will start slaughering each other.

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Re: Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by sarcasm » 29 Oct 2024, 19:56

sarcasm wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 20:14

Imagine if Isaias did not kill the 15 EPLF minsters that opposed him in 2000. Imagine if Isaias allowed them to be a separate political party to actively play a role in Eritrean politics. Eritrea would have an effective two-party system by now. Political parties would win political power in democratic elections by now. Isaias won the ህልኽ with his former friends, but Eritrea has lost. Generations of Eritrean lost the opportunity for a two-party system in Eritrea.

Eritrea did not use its golden opportunity for EPLF ministers who did not get on with Isaiais lead EPLF to part their ways peacefully and form alternative opposition party. Tigray is also at a crossroad. There is a Tigrigna saying መለበሚን ኣይግበርካ፤ መለበሚን ኣይኽላእካ። Yosief is saying ካባና ተመሃሩ። Tigray does not have to make mistakes Eritrea made! Something positive could come out of the current shenanigans.
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Re: Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by Dark Energy » 29 Oct 2024, 20:09

Eden,
What Yosef is saying has not worked in third world country yet. First that kind of idea should come from the people. An independent army should be in place. Both parties should lay their arms down and join civilian life. This is however too simplistic. It takes far more feasibility studies. Are you ready for that ? :( :x :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Eritrean political philosopher Yosief Gebrehiwet's formula for Tigray government structure post TPLF's split

Post by sarcasm » 12 Nov 2024, 09:14

sarcasm wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 19:56

ይመልኣልኩም።

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Getcho and Amanuel Asseffa, who took Getcho's Deputy TPLF Leader Office after the Congress are civil to each other and even sitting side by side in a book signing ceremony. ይመልኣልኩም።


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