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Is this why Wondime Horus hates Oromos?

Post by Sadacha Macca » 29 Apr 2024, 12:23

Freeman and Alula write:
''The Idig came to Woliso (Oromoland) from different districts of Gurageland in search of land and to get away from the repressive system under which they lived. The first migrants, who were led by Fenk'il Fereja, Aba Arabo, Jufar Negemo, and Dwato Gersamo, settled in this area in the late 1890s. They asked permission from the Oromo clans of the area to settle on their land and became Mogasa of the Abado clan with whom they lived peacefully. Under the EPRDF, at the time of re-demarcation of regional boundaries along ethnic lines, a Sebat Bet Gurage representative asked them to accept Gurage ethnic identity, but they REFUSED and opted for an Oromo identity instead!''
[Integration and Peace in East Africa: A History of the Oromo Nation
By T. Etefa, Chapter 4: Peace of the Oromo nation]

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Re: Is this why Wondime Horus hates Oromos?

Post by Horus » 29 Apr 2024, 14:07

Sadacha Macca wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 12:23
Freeman and Alula write:
''The Idig came to Woliso (Oromoland) from different districts of Gurageland in search of land and to get away from the repressive system under which they lived. The first migrants, who were led by Fenk'il Fereja, Aba Arabo, Jufar Negemo, and Dwato Gersamo, settled in this area in the late 1890s. They asked permission from the Oromo clans of the area to settle on their land and became Mogasa of the Abado clan with whom they lived peacefully. Under the EPRDF, at the time of re-demarcation of regional boundaries along ethnic lines, a Sebat Bet Gurage representative asked them to accept Gurage ethnic identity, but they REFUSED and opted for an Oromo identity instead!''
[Integration and Peace in East Africa: A History of the Oromo Nation
By T. Etefa, Chapter 4: Peace of the Oromo nation]
አንተ ዉሸታም ወራሪ ጋላ ጉራጌ 1525 ግራኝን የተዋጋ፣ በ1775 ራስ ዘ ስላሴ ጉራጌው በጎንደር የኢትዮጵያ ጦር አዛዥ ፣ በ1875 ሳህለ ስላሴ ሌላው ቀርቶ የጉራጌ ንጉስ ብሎ ማህተም ያሰራ ። የወረርከውን የጉራጌ መሬትና ሕዝብ ከኬን ያ መጥተህ እንዳልተስፋፋህ ! አው አንዱ ጋላ ተረት ይጽፋል ፣ ሌላው ጋላ ያንን ይደግማል! ዉሸታም በዉሸት የተዋቀረ ማንነት! የጉራጌ ድምበር በምራብ ግቤ ወንዝ ነው፤ በሰሜን አዋሽ ወንዝ ነው፤ በምስራቅ ዝዋይ ሃይቅ ነው። ሂድና የዘረፍከውን መሬትና ዘራቸውን ያጠፋሃውን የጉራጌ ጎሳዎች ቁጠር! ወራሪ!

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Re: Is this why Wondime Horus hates Oromos?

Post by kerenite » 29 Apr 2024, 18:02

Horus wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 14:07
Sadacha Macca wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 12:23
Freeman and Alula write:
''The Idig came to Woliso (Oromoland) from different districts of Gurageland in search of land and to get away from the repressive system under which they lived. The first migrants, who were led by Fenk'il Fereja, Aba Arabo, Jufar Negemo, and Dwato Gersamo, settled in this area in the late 1890s. They asked permission from the Oromo clans of the area to settle on their land and became Mogasa of the Abado clan with whom they lived peacefully. Under the EPRDF, at the time of re-demarcation of regional boundaries along ethnic lines, a Sebat Bet Gurage representative asked them to accept Gurage ethnic identity, but they REFUSED and opted for an Oromo identity instead!''
[Integration and Peace in East Africa: A History of the Oromo Nation
By T. Etefa, Chapter 4: Peace of the Oromo nation]
አንተ ዉሸታም ወራሪ ጋላ ጉራጌ 1525 ግራኝን የተዋጋ፣ በ1775 ራስ ዘ ስላሴ ጉራጌው በጎንደር የኢትዮጵያ ጦር አዛዥ ፣ በ1875 ሳህለ ስላሴ ሌላው ቀርቶ የጉራጌ ንጉስ ብሎ ማህተም ያሰራ ። የወረርከውን የጉራጌ መሬትና ሕዝብ ከኬን ያ መጥተህ እንዳልተስፋፋህ ! አው አንዱ ጋላ ተረት ይጽፋል ፣ ሌላው ጋላ ያንን ይደግማል! ዉሸታም በዉሸት የተዋቀረ ማንነት! የጉራጌ ድምበር በምራብ ግቤ ወንዝ ነው፤ በሰሜን አዋሽ ወንዝ ነው፤ በምስራቅ ዝዋይ ሃይቅ ነው። ሂድና የዘረፍከውን መሬትና ዘራቸውን ያጠፋሃውን የጉራጌ ጎሳዎች ቁጠር! ወራሪ!
As an Eritrean, it is none of my damn business but you people should re-read your history. Nigus Sahlesellassie was in power at Shewa in the 1840s and not in 1875 as you alluded.

Nigus Sahlesillassie passed away in 1840 something and his son hailemelekot ascended to the shewa throne. Hailemelekot happens to be the father of imye Menilek.

Re-read your history.

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Re: Is this why Wondime Horus hates Oromos?

Post by TesfaNews » 29 Apr 2024, 18:14

Eden your not Eritrean your bxtch a$$ wouldn't have known this. Your a filthy agame hiding behind Kebesa identity
kerenite wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 18:02
Horus wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 14:07
Sadacha Macca wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 12:23
Freeman and Alula write:
''The Idig came to Woliso (Oromoland) from different districts of Gurageland in search of land and to get away from the repressive system under which they lived. The first migrants, who were led by Fenk'il Fereja, Aba Arabo, Jufar Negemo, and Dwato Gersamo, settled in this area in the late 1890s. They asked permission from the Oromo clans of the area to settle on their land and became Mogasa of the Abado clan with whom they lived peacefully. Under the EPRDF, at the time of re-demarcation of regional boundaries along ethnic lines, a Sebat Bet Gurage representative asked them to accept Gurage ethnic identity, but they REFUSED and opted for an Oromo identity instead!''
[Integration and Peace in East Africa: A History of the Oromo Nation
By T. Etefa, Chapter 4: Peace of the Oromo nation]
አንተ ዉሸታም ወራሪ ጋላ ጉራጌ 1525 ግራኝን የተዋጋ፣ በ1775 ራስ ዘ ስላሴ ጉራጌው በጎንደር የኢትዮጵያ ጦር አዛዥ ፣ በ1875 ሳህለ ስላሴ ሌላው ቀርቶ የጉራጌ ንጉስ ብሎ ማህተም ያሰራ ። የወረርከውን የጉራጌ መሬትና ሕዝብ ከኬን ያ መጥተህ እንዳልተስፋፋህ ! አው አንዱ ጋላ ተረት ይጽፋል ፣ ሌላው ጋላ ያንን ይደግማል! ዉሸታም በዉሸት የተዋቀረ ማንነት! የጉራጌ ድምበር በምራብ ግቤ ወንዝ ነው፤ በሰሜን አዋሽ ወንዝ ነው፤ በምስራቅ ዝዋይ ሃይቅ ነው። ሂድና የዘረፍከውን መሬትና ዘራቸውን ያጠፋሃውን የጉራጌ ጎሳዎች ቁጠር! ወራሪ!
As an Eritrean, it is none of my damn business but you people should re-read your history. Nigus Sahlesellassie was in power at Shewa in the 1840s and not in 1875 as you alluded.

Nigus Sahlesillassie passed away in 1840 something and his son hailemelekot ascended to the shewa throne. Hailemelekot happens to be the father of imye Menilek.

Re-read your history.

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Re: Is this why Wondime Horus hates Oromos?

Post by Sadacha Macca » 29 Apr 2024, 18:29

Horus, Speak English please; thank you.

Keren,
Yes sahle selassie, brother of wossen seged, father of haile melekot and of darge sahle selassie; the grand father of menelik, ruled from 1813 to 1847. he incorporated many oromo clans into his empire, seeking to strengthen his army and empire; he was a smart man in that regard, I'll give him that.

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Re: Is this why Wondime Horus hates Oromos?

Post by Horus » 29 Apr 2024, 20:09

kerenite wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 18:02
Horus wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 14:07
Sadacha Macca wrote:
29 Apr 2024, 12:23
Freeman and Alula write:
''The Idig came to Woliso (Oromoland) from different districts of Gurageland in search of land and to get away from the repressive system under which they lived. The first migrants, who were led by Fenk'il Fereja, Aba Arabo, Jufar Negemo, and Dwato Gersamo, settled in this area in the late 1890s. They asked permission from the Oromo clans of the area to settle on their land and became Mogasa of the Abado clan with whom they lived peacefully. Under the EPRDF, at the time of re-demarcation of regional boundaries along ethnic lines, a Sebat Bet Gurage representative asked them to accept Gurage ethnic identity, but they REFUSED and opted for an Oromo identity instead!''
[Integration and Peace in East Africa: A History of the Oromo Nation
By T. Etefa, Chapter 4: Peace of the Oromo nation]
አንተ ዉሸታም ወራሪ ጋላ ጉራጌ 1525 ግራኝን የተዋጋ፣ በ1775 ራስ ዘ ስላሴ ጉራጌው በጎንደር የኢትዮጵያ ጦር አዛዥ ፣ በ1875 ሳህለ ስላሴ ሌላው ቀርቶ የጉራጌ ንጉስ ብሎ ማህተም ያሰራ ። የወረርከውን የጉራጌ መሬትና ሕዝብ ከኬን ያ መጥተህ እንዳልተስፋፋህ ! አው አንዱ ጋላ ተረት ይጽፋል ፣ ሌላው ጋላ ያንን ይደግማል! ዉሸታም በዉሸት የተዋቀረ ማንነት! የጉራጌ ድምበር በምራብ ግቤ ወንዝ ነው፤ በሰሜን አዋሽ ወንዝ ነው፤ በምስራቅ ዝዋይ ሃይቅ ነው። ሂድና የዘረፍከውን መሬትና ዘራቸውን ያጠፋሃውን የጉራጌ ጎሳዎች ቁጠር! ወራሪ!
As an Eritrean, it is none of my damn business but you people should re-read your history. Nigus Sahlesellassie was in power at Shewa in the 1840s and not in 1875 as you alluded.

Nigus Sahlesillassie passed away in 1840 something and his son hailemelekot ascended to the shewa throne. Hailemelekot happens to be the father of imye Menilek.

Re-read your history.

kerenite,

ርማትክን እቀበላለሁ፤ ስለ ሳህለ ስላሴ (ሰዕለ ስላሴ) ያነበብኩት 2ኛ ደረጃ ሆኜ ነው ። የማልረሳው የጉራጌ ንጉስ የሚል ማህተም ነበረው ። ሰሜንና ምስራቅ ጉራጌ በሸዋ ግዛት የገባው በሱ ዘመን ነው ። መልኩም ቀይ ጉራጌ ይመስል ነበር ። በዚህም ምክኛት ምኒልክና ጉራጌ ብዙ ቅርበት ነበራቸው። ወደ ደቡባና ምራብ ሲዘምት ብዙ ግዜ እኛ አካባቢ ነበር የሚከትመው፤ ለምሳሌ ቆንዳልቲቲ ፣ ኬላ ...

ሳዳቻ ሜቻ የምትባል ሰው ግን ዉሸት ትርክት አቁም። የሸዋ ኦሮሞ በተለይ በጉራጌ ምድር የሰፈሩት በሙሉ አንዳቸውም በውስጣቸው እስላም የለም ። ጉራጌ ግማሹ ሙስሊም ነው ። የዚህ ዋና ታሪካዊ ምክኛቱ አህመድ ግራኛ ጉራጌን በሰይፍ አስገድዶ ሲያሰልም በመላ ሸዋ የጋላ ወይም የኦሮሞ ዘር አልነበረም ። ይህ ብቻ በቂ የታሪክ መረጃ ነው ፤ በ1525 ጋላ የተባለ ሕዝብ በጉራጌ ፣ ጋፋት፣ ወጅ፣ ገንዝ ፣ወዘተ በፍጹም እንዳልነበረ ! ታዲያ በጉራጌና ጋፋት መሬት ላይ የሰፈረውን የቀድሞ ጋላ የዛሬ ኦሮሞ እንዴት አድርጎ ነው ጉራጌን ሞጋሳ ቅብጥርስእያል ክ ነጭ ዉሸት የምትቀጥፈው????

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