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Post by DefendTheTruth » 29 Feb 2024, 17:11

According to a facebook post here is what the entity reportedly claimed as the discussion point of the recent negotiation between the government and itself.

The key part, it should be added:
Obbo Jireenyaa: Dhimmoota hedduutu ka’e. Isaan keessaa waan wal nama falmisiisu lamatu ture. Tokkoffaa dhimma waraanaa fi nageenyaati. Kan biraa dhimma siyaasaati.

Gama keenyaan rakkoon bu’uuraa biyyichaa rakkoo siyaasati. Isatu furmaata hin arganneef gara waraanaatti galamee jenne. Isaan ammo lakkii, rakkoon siyaasaa hin jiru. Nuyi ummataan filamnee aangoo qabanne kan jedhutu ka’e. Maaltu waraanatti nu galcheree kan jedhuuf garuu deebii gahaa hin arganne.

Gaaffii ummataatu jira. Loltuu biyyaafi poolisii qabattanii akka uummanni bilisaan hiree isaa hin murteeffanne gootaniittu kan jedhudha. Ummatarraa lola dhaabaa, loltuun biyyaa dhimma siyaasaa keessa hin galiin. Loltuufi qaamni nageenyaa to’annoo paartii tokko jalaa galuu hin qabu jenne.

Qaamuma aangoo siyaasaa to’atetu, dhimma siyaasaafi ummataa irratti murteessa. Paartileen siyaasaa kaanis hammatamuu qabu. Boordii filannoo, qaamoleen mirga namaaf falman, miidiyaafi dhaabbileen haqaa bilisa tahuu qabu kan jedhu kaasne.

Paartii tokkoon to’atamuun aangoo isaa ittiin tikfachuuf kan itti fayyadamu tahuu hin qabu, gadhiisaa kan jedhu ture. Gaafas nuyis irratti hirmaannee filannoo irratti hirmaachuu dandeenya jennaan kanatu fudhatama hin arganne.

Akka Itaamaajooriin waraana biyyaa 'gaaffiin siyaasaa deebi’ee jira, gaaffiin lafaa bara Dargii, kan eenyummaa bara TPLF, kan siyaasaa ammo bara Badhaadhinaa keessa deebi’eera’ jedhanii akak dubbatan tahuu hin qabu. Ajajaan waraanaa kan biyyaati malee kan paartii tokkoo miti. Haala kanaan dubbachuu hin qabu ture
And here is its rough translation into english:
Mr. Life: Many issues have been raised. There were two controversial aspects of them. First, it is a military and security issue. Another is a political issue.

For our part, the fundamental problem of the country is a political problem. We said that he went to war because he could not find a solution. They said no, there is no political problem. There was the claim that we were elected by the people and took power. What led us to war, however, was not adequately answered.

There is a public demand. You have arrested the army and police and prevented the people from freely determining their fate. Stop fighting from the people, don’t let the soldiers of the country get involved in political affairs. We said that the soldiers and security forces should not be under the control of one party.

The body that controls political power decides on political and public affairs. Other political parties should be included. We mentioned that the electoral board, human rights activists, media and judicial institutions should be independent.

It was that control by one party should not be used to protect its power, let it go. Then we said that we could participate in the elections and this was not accepted.

It should not be like the army Itamajors saying 'the political question has been restored, the land question has been restored during the Dargii era, the identity question during the TPLF era, and the political question has been restored during the Badhaadhina era' The military commander belongs to the country, not to any party. He shouldn't have spoken in this way
Mr. Jireenya, jireenya si haa dhowu rabbi, lammi baay'ee dhiiga dhangalasiste, rabbi irra ni argata!

If you have a political demand, then formulate it and present it for consideration and ask the govenment for reconsideration in its political deliberations and executions of state affairs.

What you are demanding, according to your own words, is not a political demand, which you don't have to begin with, you are simply asking let's share the power with those who were duly elected to the office, after presenting their programs to the public.
This is not about you or the government, rather it is about the supremacy of the will of the people, which you now openly challenge. You must be a scumbag, idiot, who can only spill the bloods of the innocent people for nothing.

This will haunt you down for the rest of your life and beyond that.

The party currently in power is entrusted with it by the will of the people, if you had a viable political program, then you should have also dared to challenge the party in power with your alternative programs, but you have non of that, let death be to you, as far as you are killing my people!

https://www.bbc.com/afaanoromoo/article ... u39fvdrGLc

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Post by Horus » 01 Mar 2024, 02:57

DDT
You are not making sense. personally, I hate olf/ola but I kind of understand its demand. when you talk about politics - it is always about 4 things - be it a group or a person. ...
power
money
respect/dignity
fame/visibility

that's all.
ola demanded both power sharing and a transitional government
it demanded money - that its members given money to settle as civilians or join the nDF and be paid monthly salary
and when you are given those 2 things that means you respected as a political factor or force
when you are given those 3 things you are known, you have become visible in the political world. Now you are not a face jungle fighter, you are a killil or federal poitical actor.

so, you criticism of loa tells me you really don't know what politics is all about or you want blidly support Abiy/Shimels gang

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Post by Educator » 01 Mar 2024, 03:12

Has and have, does and do. He is having a hard time to differentiate these verbs as well.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 17:11

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 01 Mar 2024, 14:58

Horus wrote:
01 Mar 2024, 02:57
DDT
You are not making sense. personally, I hate olf/ola but I kind of understand its demand. when you talk about politics - it is always about 4 things - be it a group or a person. ...
power
money
respect/dignity
fame/visibility

that's all.
ola demanded both power sharing and a transitional government
it demanded money - that its members given money to settle as civilians or join the nDF and be paid monthly salary
and when you are given those 2 things that means you respected as a political factor or force
when you are given those 3 things you are known, you have become visible in the political world. Now you are not a face jungle fighter, you are a killil or federal poitical actor.

so, you criticism of loa tells me you really don't know what politics is all about or you want blidly support Abiy/Shimels gang
You are wrong, once again, and superficial as usual.

If you rushed to equate politics and power, then you failed to grasp how that power may come about correctly.

If toting one's guns would make somebody eligible for a power, then there wouldn't have been an orderly state system in any country of the world.

Power emanates from the people, the governed, which they bestow on their government by their free will. That is why election is a crucial institution in building a sustainable peace and democratic order.

If an insurgent group simply gets up and demand to have a share in the state power, then the basic tenets of democratic institutions lose their basic roles and significance and the governed will have to settle themselves for the same and old so called vicious cycle of violence, with no hope for development and a meaningful progress of their lives.

Go find out about how that should work: it starts with presenting one's political program to the governed and buy their consent of taking power in return. Short of that has failed time and again, no need to repeat the same old and failed means.

Where have you ever heard that a sitting government will go out and negotiate to dismantle itself and pave a way for the so called Transitional Government on its free will to any significant force let alone to a ragtag militia?

It didn't happen in the year 2018, when the current government came to power and lacked any meaningful force to enforce its power, there is no way that the same government will ever come to the idea of dissolving itself and agreeing to create the so called Transitional Government after it has build a formidable state military and bureaucracy.

Keep dreaming about Transitional Government the same way you did the whole of your adult life of many decades.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 03 Mar 2024, 17:07

Fano Reporter writes such a garbage in the name of journalistic profession, what an inept?

You can't call for power-sharing after a party purposely boycotted the competition for it and remained out willingly.

Try to learn some logic: we can never call for a perpetual rounds of TG, it has to stop and let the development of the nation commence.
“What the armed groups in Oromia and Amhara want is power negotiations. But the government’s intention is the complete surrender of the armed groups. it is difficult to see the hope for peace under the current approach,” an analyst told The Reporter.
Such an analyst, a scumbag.

Power emanates from the electorate, not from a party, you an idiot!

https://www.thereporterethiopia.com/38985/

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 04 Mar 2024, 10:33

If you think robbing the poor what ever it may have earned will qualify you to negotiate power-sharing with the party of Government, then go ahead and wage your robbery. It will decimate you from inside out. Morons!


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