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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
Forget about comparing Abiy's views on Asseb to those of Meles. The Weyanes, led by Meles, were extremely apprehensive and fearful of Eritreans, particularly the EPLF, as it posed a significant threat to the survival of the Weyanes as a dominant force. The urgency with which they compelled themselves to let go of Eritrea seemed more like their mission than a reflection of the Eritreans' desires. It wasn't that Eritrea wanted to remain connected to Ethiopia, but the haste to sever ties with Eritrea, driven by the fear of the EPLF, resulted in atrocious consequences.
Abiy's belated affection for Asseb appears concocted and encouraged by foreign actors. You can observe from his expression that he can't believe what he is really saying. Your attempt to portray Meles as more concerned about Eritrea than Abiy is not believable. By the way, Fano sees the Red Sea not as two anti-Ethiopian actors. If a mutually agreeable arrangement can be made, the issue of sea ports will become a moot point. It would not be a threat to Ethiopia but rather beneficial for both peoples.
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Abiy's belated affection for Asseb appears concocted and encouraged by foreign actors. You can observe from his expression that he can't believe what he is really saying. Your attempt to portray Meles as more concerned about Eritrea than Abiy is not believable. By the way, Fano sees the Red Sea not as two anti-Ethiopian actors. If a mutually agreeable arrangement can be made, the issue of sea ports will become a moot point. It would not be a threat to Ethiopia but rather beneficial for both peoples.
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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
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The dirty Traitor Monkey Meles Zenawi was the worst scumbag leader in Tigray and Ethiopia history.
Unlike you we know him personally and he was a coward, backstabber , plagiarized other TPLF Leaders works, accomplishments, writing, slogans, ideas.
He pretended to be Smart but in reality he wasn't but a con artists, corrupt, coward that he trained the pow p.p party leaders, military generals to be con artists, Liars, backstabbers, corrupt, Unethical, scumbag just like he was.
Awet Nehafash Tigray People!!!
The dirty Traitor Monkey Meles Zenawi was the worst scumbag leader in Tigray and Ethiopia history.
Unlike you we know him personally and he was a coward, backstabber , plagiarized other TPLF Leaders works, accomplishments, writing, slogans, ideas.
He pretended to be Smart but in reality he wasn't but a con artists, corrupt, coward that he trained the pow p.p party leaders, military generals to be con artists, Liars, backstabbers, corrupt, Unethical, scumbag just like he was.
Awet Nehafash Tigray People!!!
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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
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Once again you are lying about history of Eplf.
The coward Eplf Army was defeated by derg-ethiopia army and the Jebha -Eritrea Liberation Front Army 40 years ago when they begged the Tigray People and TPLF to save them which they did a mistake that costed Tigray People today.
The Tigray People and TPLF including us we genuinely believed do to the past ethiopia leaders and Derg brutality on innocent Tigray People felt Eritreans should decide their own fate and we Saved them on the battlefield and gave them independence on a silver platters.
The coward EPLF was hiding in Nakifa for 30 years without any significant military victory when the Tigray People liberated the entire Tigray in 1989 while Shabia waz still hiding in Nakifa.
Not only that the Tigray People and TPLF fought in 8 provinces in ethiopia to defeat the Derg Ethiopia Army,eprp army,e.d.u Army, Jebha -Eritrea Liberation Front Army and they finally liberated ethiopia by themselves.
The Tigray Keeping Derg fighting all over ethiopia gave the coward EPLF army the courage to do little fighting to enter Asmara.
But for you amhara the Tigray People kindness to Eritreans to give them independence was seen as weakness because that is your culture.
The coward EPLF have fooled many Amhara and ethiopian about thier fake victory against Derg Ethiopia Army.
BTW the Tigray People could have refused to give independence to eritrea and they could have wiped out Shabia Army but they chose to help them.
Long Live the Tigray People!!
Once again you are lying about history of Eplf.
The coward Eplf Army was defeated by derg-ethiopia army and the Jebha -Eritrea Liberation Front Army 40 years ago when they begged the Tigray People and TPLF to save them which they did a mistake that costed Tigray People today.
The Tigray People and TPLF including us we genuinely believed do to the past ethiopia leaders and Derg brutality on innocent Tigray People felt Eritreans should decide their own fate and we Saved them on the battlefield and gave them independence on a silver platters.
The coward EPLF was hiding in Nakifa for 30 years without any significant military victory when the Tigray People liberated the entire Tigray in 1989 while Shabia waz still hiding in Nakifa.
Not only that the Tigray People and TPLF fought in 8 provinces in ethiopia to defeat the Derg Ethiopia Army,eprp army,e.d.u Army, Jebha -Eritrea Liberation Front Army and they finally liberated ethiopia by themselves.
The Tigray Keeping Derg fighting all over ethiopia gave the coward EPLF army the courage to do little fighting to enter Asmara.
But for you amhara the Tigray People kindness to Eritreans to give them independence was seen as weakness because that is your culture.
The coward EPLF have fooled many Amhara and ethiopian about thier fake victory against Derg Ethiopia Army.
BTW the Tigray People could have refused to give independence to eritrea and they could have wiped out Shabia Army but they chose to help them.
Long Live the Tigray People!!
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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
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When you get a chance watch this true documentary of Tigray People and TPLF fighting all over ethiopia to reach addis ababa.
You may learn the truth.
Remember what we told you 3 years ago on this site the pow p.p party were criminals servants of the devil but you failed to believe us and you became thier propagandists for awhile.
We understand all of us are human beings we make mistakes until God shows us the truth Early on or later.
The person who posted this video added the coward traitor Meles Zenawi picture to highlight his points.
But all the documentary is the Tigray People Army.
Long Live the Tigray People!!!
When you get a chance watch this true documentary of Tigray People and TPLF fighting all over ethiopia to reach addis ababa.
You may learn the truth.
Remember what we told you 3 years ago on this site the pow p.p party were criminals servants of the devil but you failed to believe us and you became thier propagandists for awhile.
We understand all of us are human beings we make mistakes until God shows us the truth Early on or later.
The person who posted this video added the coward traitor Meles Zenawi picture to highlight his points.
But all the documentary is the Tigray People Army.
Long Live the Tigray People!!!
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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
Your perspective on the historical events involving the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF), the Eritrean People's Liberation Front (EPLF), and the downfall of the Derg regime in Ethiopia provides a self-serving analysis of the complex dynamics at play during that period.
You rightly point out that while TPLF did assist EPLF during the Red Star Campaign, however, it would be an oversimplification and perhaps even misleading to suggest that without TPLF's help, EPLF would have been obliterated. EPLF had to face the most trained and well-equipped Ethiopian army for many years, and without the weakening of Derg by EPLF, TPLF would not have surfaced as a significant threat to Derg. The strategic decisions made by TPLF were driven by its own interests, recognizing that the survival of EPLF was essential for its own resistance against the Derg regime. This nuanced perspective sheds light on the pragmatic alliances formed during times of conflict, often driven by strategic considerations rather than purely altruistic motives by both parties.
TPLF as a late bloomer it created a subservient organization to navigate through the Amhara region without much resistance highlights the [ deleted ] nature of TPLF political maneuvering. The end of the Cold War and the missteps of Mengistu Haile Mariam further played into TPLF's hands, allowing it to seize power in Ethiopia. The choice of the name "Tewedero" in its campaigns in Gonder and Gojam could only be interpreted as a strategic move to appeal to local sentiments and gain support.
The Ethiopian people, frustrated by the corrupt and oppressive Derg regime, may have underestimated the potential challenges posed by the incoming TPLF government, adding an additional layer why weyanes had an easy ride south. The belief that "nothing would be worse than Derge" might have contributed to a certain degree of acceptance or complacency, allowing TPLF to exploit the weaknesses of both the regime and the general sentiment of the population.
Your hyperbolic assertions fail to capture the intricate web of political, strategic, and socio-cultural factors that shaped the events during that tumultuous period in Ethiopian history. We don't have to simplify the multifaceted event that took place because it requires a nuanced understanding of the motivations and actions of the various actors.
You rightly point out that while TPLF did assist EPLF during the Red Star Campaign, however, it would be an oversimplification and perhaps even misleading to suggest that without TPLF's help, EPLF would have been obliterated. EPLF had to face the most trained and well-equipped Ethiopian army for many years, and without the weakening of Derg by EPLF, TPLF would not have surfaced as a significant threat to Derg. The strategic decisions made by TPLF were driven by its own interests, recognizing that the survival of EPLF was essential for its own resistance against the Derg regime. This nuanced perspective sheds light on the pragmatic alliances formed during times of conflict, often driven by strategic considerations rather than purely altruistic motives by both parties.
TPLF as a late bloomer it created a subservient organization to navigate through the Amhara region without much resistance highlights the [ deleted ] nature of TPLF political maneuvering. The end of the Cold War and the missteps of Mengistu Haile Mariam further played into TPLF's hands, allowing it to seize power in Ethiopia. The choice of the name "Tewedero" in its campaigns in Gonder and Gojam could only be interpreted as a strategic move to appeal to local sentiments and gain support.
The Ethiopian people, frustrated by the corrupt and oppressive Derg regime, may have underestimated the potential challenges posed by the incoming TPLF government, adding an additional layer why weyanes had an easy ride south. The belief that "nothing would be worse than Derge" might have contributed to a certain degree of acceptance or complacency, allowing TPLF to exploit the weaknesses of both the regime and the general sentiment of the population.
Your hyperbolic assertions fail to capture the intricate web of political, strategic, and socio-cultural factors that shaped the events during that tumultuous period in Ethiopian history. We don't have to simplify the multifaceted event that took place because it requires a nuanced understanding of the motivations and actions of the various actors.
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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
ፋኖ አያወላዳም። አንድና አንድ ኢትዮጵያ ነው የሚያውቀው። በምንም የሻቢያ ወታደራዊ እንዳታ ሊቀየር የማይችል አቋም ነው። ይህም ሻዕቢያ ያውቀዋል። ሻዕቢያ እንደሚውቀውም ፋኖ ያውቀዋል።
አቢይ የሚፈልገው ደንካልያና ዓሰብ ነው። ፋኖ ደግሞ ምጽዋንም ጭምር ይፈልጋል ። ለጎንደር የሚቀርበው ወደብ ምጽዋ ስለሆነ። ፋኖና አቢይ በወደብ ቢደራደሩ፤ አቢይ የአፋር መሬትና ዓሰብ ይበቃናል ሲል፤ ፋኖ ደግሞ የለም! ምጽዋንም ጭምር መሆን አለበት ነው የሚሆነው ክርክሩ።


አቢይ የሚፈልገው ደንካልያና ዓሰብ ነው። ፋኖ ደግሞ ምጽዋንም ጭምር ይፈልጋል ። ለጎንደር የሚቀርበው ወደብ ምጽዋ ስለሆነ። ፋኖና አቢይ በወደብ ቢደራደሩ፤ አቢይ የአፋር መሬትና ዓሰብ ይበቃናል ሲል፤ ፋኖ ደግሞ የለም! ምጽዋንም ጭምር መሆን አለበት ነው የሚሆነው ክርክሩ።
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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
መስኪን ዓጋሚት ወይዘሮ ኣወጣሽ
ካብ ኣቢይ ተስፋ ቆሪጽክን ማለት ድዩ። We will make sure Abiy is defeated. In fact, Eritrea will stand with Fano to destroy OPDO as we destroyed TPLF. Qomalat Agame, you will never ever set your dirty feet in Welkait. Mendelay will make sure of that!
Now AweTush, read what an Agame who has unnderstood the realities very well is saying!

ካብ ኣቢይ ተስፋ ቆሪጽክን ማለት ድዩ። We will make sure Abiy is defeated. In fact, Eritrea will stand with Fano to destroy OPDO as we destroyed TPLF. Qomalat Agame, you will never ever set your dirty feet in Welkait. Mendelay will make sure of that!
Now AweTush, read what an Agame who has unnderstood the realities very well is saying!




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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
Imagine how long it took Fano to design the old Ethiopian map on the ground? ፋኖ አያወላዳም
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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
Edina Agamina, we will work with Fano to destroy your ABiy. ቆማል ዓጋሚት፡ ተስፋ ኣይትግበሪ::




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Re: ፋኖ ወደብና ቀይ ባሕርን የሚያየው እንደ አብይ ነው ወይስ እንደ መለሰ?
This is what Fanos see: