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የአዲስ አበባ ህዝብ ፈሪ ነው ወይስ መብቱን አያውቅም?

Poll ended at 28 May 2023, 17:00

ሀ) መብቱን ያውቃል ግን 1ኛ ደረጃ ፈሪ ህዝብ ነው።
13
17%
ለ) መብቱን ያውቃል ግን ሆዱን ይወዳል። የኳስ፥ መጠጥ፤ጫት ፥ሴት/ዝሙት/ ሱስ ይበልጥበታል።
8
11%
ሐ) መብቱን አያውቅም፤ የባሌ አርብቶ አደር ይጫዎትበታል። መጥቶ በቡልዶዘር ቤቱን ያፈርስበታል።
1
1%
መ) ፈሪም ሰነፍም ነው። ከክፍለሀገር ከደቡብ ወይም ከአማራ መጥተው ነጻ እንድያወጣው ቁጭ ብሎ ይጠብቃል።
53
71%
 
Total votes: 75

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የአዲስ አበባ ህዝብ ፈሪ ነው ወይስ መብቱን አያውቅም?

Post by Abere » 17 May 2023, 17:00



ሀ) መብቱን ያውቃል ግን 1ኛ ደረጃ ፈሪ ህዝብ ነው።

ለ) መብቱን ያውቃል ግን ሆዱን ይወዳል። የኳስ፥ መጠጥ፤ጫት ፥ሴት/ዝሙት/ ሱስ ይበልጥበታል።

ሐ) መብቱን አያውቅም፤ የባሌ አርብቶ አደር ይጫዎትበታል። መጥቶ በቡልዶዘር ቤቱን ያፈርስበታል።

መ) ፈሪም ሰነፍም ነው። ከክፍለሀገር ከደቡብ ወይም ከአማራ መጥተው ነጻ እንድያወጣው ቁጭ ብሎ ይጠብቃል።

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Post by Abere » 18 May 2023, 10:20


እስከ አሁን በተሰበሰበው መረጃ መሰረት ሁለት አሻሚ አስተያየቶች ቀርበዋል። እያንዳንዳቸው 40% ይዘዋል። ይህም

--- የአዲስ አበባ ህዝብ ፈሪ እና በኢትዮጵያ የፍርሃት ሰንጠረዝ 1ኛ ደረጃ ነው ይሚል። ይህ እጅግ እጅግ አስደንጋጭ ነው ምክንያቱም ተመላላሽ ባለስልጣን ሁሉ ሲደፋው እና ሲረግጠው ቢኖር ሰው ሁኖ ተከብሮ ለመኖር ትንሽ የክብር ዋጋ ሳይከፍል ብዙ እንደ እንሰሳ እየተወገረ መኖር የሚፈቅድ ነው የሚል አይነት ነው። Does not know that no freedom is free.

--- የአዲስ አባባ ህዝብ ከክብሩ ይልቅ ሆዱን ያፈቅራል አይነት ነው። ሆዳምነት እንድሁ እንደ ፈሪ ክብር ያስገፍፋል። አገራችን ሰው ሞሰብ መልጦ አይበላም ይባላል። የአዲስ አበባ ሰው መልጦ ብቻ ሳይሆን ከተበላ ሞሰቡን ይጨምረዋል። ኢሳው የበኩርነት ክብሩን ለሆድ ሲል በምስር ለውጦ ነው የተገፈፈው። አንድ የአማራ አባባል አለ - ሆድ በፊታችን በመሆኑ ነው እንጅ ከጀርባችን ቢሆን ገፍትሮ ገደል ይከተን ነበር የሚል። የአዲስ አበቤዎች ከጀርባቸው ሳይሆን አይቀርም ወይም ባለ ሁለት ሆዳሞች ይሆናሉ። ከባሌ እና አሩሲ መጥተው አያት ቅድመ አያቱ ከሰሩለት ቤት ውስጥ በቡል ዶዘር ያርሱታል። ሽመልስ አብዲሳ እና አዳነች አበቤ ይመችህ ብልው ይሸኑበታል።ሆድ ጥላት ነው።

የአዲስ አበባ ህዝብ 1 ጉዳይ ላይ ብቻ አይታማም - ይህም የድጋፍ ሰልፍ አለ ሰው አይታሰረም፤አይገረፍም፤ ነጻ ቲ ሸርት/ሸሚዝ ይታደላል፤ ምግብ እና መጠጥ ይሰጣል ከተባለ ምድር ቀውጢ ነው የሚሆነው፡

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Post by Right » 18 May 2023, 10:57

Abere,
It is not fear and not greed. If you remember before Abiye Ahmed Ali was exposed for who he is, it was the Addis youth that came out on the streets and protested against the Oromuma government. It was the Addis youth who stood up against the Oromo extremists that massacred Gamos in Burayu.

It is rather a lack of organization that lets the city of Addis down. Just like the nation itself.
Eskinder Nega, it is a missed opportunity. His movement is still around but needs strengthening.

I am not giving any excuse for fat and greedy opportunists who are passively witnessing the oromofication of the city.

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Post by Abere » 18 May 2023, 11:31

Right,

With due respect I do not buy this reason. In my opinion, Addis Ababa people only comes out to any demonstration en masse when it is called by the so-called "government". Because they feel secured, protected, appreciated and rewarded. The narrative that they stopped the "assassination" attempt of Abiy Ahmed, probably is instinct mob reaction for they happened to be there only. I don't think they have the gut to make sacrifice if they did so for Abiy by then why not now? Because they do not have that quality of bravery - they are folding their hands waiting for Amhara or Southern Ethiopia to untie their hands and get free.

--- Lack of Organization is not necessarily a prerequisite, it is the by product of public uproar and determination. I had better use a metaphor to explain the cowardice behavior of Addis Ababians ( colony of Bale Orommuma). Heard of people selling their ovarian eggs to get money - Addis Ababaians sell few of those the braves who want to fight the evil Orommuma. ሆድ comes first for Addis Ababians, not dignity and pride. How many times did they betrayed Eskindir and the likes?

Right wrote:
18 May 2023, 10:57
Abere,
It is not fear and not greed. If you remember before Abiye Ahmed Ali was exposed for who he is, it was the Addis youth that came out on the streets and protested against the Oromuma government. It was the Addis youth who stood up against the Oromo extremists that massacred Gamos in Burayu.

It is rather a lack of organization that lets the city of Addis down. Just like the nation itself.
Eskinder Nega, it is a missed opportunity. His movement is still around but needs strengthening.

I am not giving any excuse for fat and greedy opportunists who are passively witnessing the oromofication of the city.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 18 May 2023, 12:12

Anotehr polling point should be:

እስክንድር ነጋ የአዲስ አበባን ፖልቲካ ይዞ ገደል ገባ፣ ተዉ የምለዉ እጥቶ።

This point should get more scores.

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Post by Abere » 18 May 2023, 13:02

How is the Mobutu Sesse Seko jungle place building goin on in ፊን ፊን :lol: You guys need few herd of monkeys and apes from Gore or Jimma to finally in habit it :lol:

ምን ነበር የቀበሌ ሸቀጣ ሸቀጥ መሸጫ ቢያደርጉት።




DefendTheTruth wrote:
18 May 2023, 12:12
Anotehr polling point should be:

እስክንድር ነጋ የአዲስ አበባን ፖልቲካ ይዞ ገደል ገባ፣ ተዉ የምለዉ እጥቶ።

This point should get more scores.

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Post by Misraq » 18 May 2023, 13:35

Brother Right is correct. let me add a small fact to what he said. Addis Youth(residents) chased the so-called qerro cowards in multiple instances. I think they lack modern day organization skills. That is the missing element. If they create network to operate in a covert manner, they can do what is supposed to do. I believe after Kinijit/G7/Ezema screwed addis residents in multiple occasions, trust on organizers is below zero and i blame these coward sigbgib fake ethiopianist politicians in Kinijit/G7/Ezema who are only after their belly for the inaction in Addis.

Also there are 3 undeniable facts that contribute to this as well
1) Newer Addis residents from all over the country make up now 50% of the population. They just don't care because they have other identities. (There is a huge Tegaru, Oromo, Welayta, Hadiya influx in addis for the last 30 years each of them only worry for their respective region/people)
2) Religious polarization such as Pentes aligning with biltsigina and muslims siding with fanatic islamism of Silte and Oromo Arsi islamists
3) The new culture of soccer, khat and excesive alchole and luxury.

With all the above, addis residents put up some resistance the last 5 years. There is movements now in tiktok but even that movement is being twarted by Ezema diqallas fearing that it will link with Fano Amhara

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Post by Tiago » 18 May 2023, 14:28


It is rather a lack of organization that lets the city of Addis down. Just like the nation itself.
Eskinder Nega, it is a missed opportunity. His movement is still around but needs strengthening.



this what exactly missing. peaceful stoppage of work and refusing to comply with oromuma orders ,exposing the abiy's government to international pressure and its gradual crumble from within.
the people of AA are concerned about their daily bread at expense of their long term peaceful existence,rights and eing oblivious to the inevitable extremist oromo plan of dispossession and forceful expulsion of non-oromos.

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Post by Abere » 18 May 2023, 14:32

---- So, you are saying ኢዜማ is the principal agent of Orommuma that put its propaganda bὀὀts on the necks of Addis Ababains. That is very true, this scam party was vehemently against Eskindir Nega and was not only mute about the gross human right violations going on Addis Ababa. Ezema was more OLF-PP than OLF-PP itself. However, that does not take Addis Ababains off the hook for being weak to defend their God given right and being the legacy owner of the city. As the nations capital, it is expected to set the bar for what freedom, free speech and democracy mean. It is shame for the city of 8 millions to beg Abiy Ahmed for everything and bow down k!ssing the feet of the ሰገጤ - who know nothing about humanity.

--- The adulteration of Addis Ababians composition by systematic settelment of so-called "displaced" Orommuma from Harar/Jihiga and the regular truck load of Bale OLF unloaded in the city have effects. That still does not make sense. One does not have to be waiting for crowd to join for the fight of God given right. That is not a sufficient excuse.

--- The ጴንጤ thing true. ጴንጤ do not question about Abiy Ahmed, they blindly support him, irrespective of ethnicity. Let's say ጴንጤ oppose Abiy Ahmed, do you think they have the gut to put their skin in the game? :mrgreen: Nope. Still ጴንጤ are the minority, the heavy lifting on the majority.

--- I think the new culture of soccer, khat and excessive alcohol and luxury totally took the soul of bravery out of Addis Ababa. They are docile, anyone who assumes power can peacefully ride them like a mule.

Now, the issue how can Addis Ababa break this problem? The city needs a big shock to wake it up. Will that be miracle? No. A hero has to be born out of the silenced and roar.


Misraq wrote:
18 May 2023, 13:35
Brother Right is correct. let me add a small fact to what he said. Addis Youth(residents) chased the so-called qerro cowards in multiple instances. I think they lack modern day organization skills. That is the missing element. If they create network to operate in a covert manner, they can do what is supposed to do. I believe after Kinijit/G7/Ezema screwed addis residents in multiple occasions, trust on organizers is below zero and i blame these coward sigbgib fake ethiopianist politicians in Kinijit/G7/Ezema who are only after their belly for the inaction in Addis.

Also there are 3 undeniable facts that contribute to this as well
1) Newer Addis residents from all over the country make up now 50% of the population. They just don't care because they have other identities. (There is a huge Tegaru, Oromo, Welayta, Hadiya influx in addis for the last 30 years each of them only worry for their respective region/people)
2) Religious polarization such as Pentes aligning with biltsigina and muslims siding with fanatic islamism of Silte and Oromo Arsi islamists
3) The new culture of soccer, khat and excesive alchole and luxury.

With all the above, addis residents put up some resistance the last 5 years. There is movements now in tiktok but even that movement is being twarted by Ezema diqallas fearing that it will link with Fano Amhara

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Post by Right » 18 May 2023, 14:51

Misraq,
In 2005, the protest against the election result costed the city of Addis 197 souls. Kinijit, the de facto leader of the post election protest disowned and threw the protesters under the bus. Left the protesters leaderless and voiceless. That is a fact.
The leaders of the student movements of the 60s known to be fearless and principled in whatever they believed in. So many of them was butchered unjustly by people who ruled the day. Addis witnessed that horrible bloodshed.

After 2005, People considered political leaders as opportunists and greedy looking for a way to enrich themselves at the expense of others. EZEMA,ABN, Lidetu, BERHANU and others proved them right.

After the Derg era, politics and political participation in Ethiopia is considered a suicide, the lack of principled and iconic organizations and figures is directly related to it.

With coordination and a little bit of education on how to conduct peaceful struggle Addis will respond to the Oromuma agenda. But they have to get organized first.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 18 May 2023, 15:12

Misraq wrote:
18 May 2023, 13:35
Ezema diqallas
Still dare to use that word, never learn something in life?

It is just a fresh memory how your cohorts used that abhorrent expression of half-cast and candidated a fellow human being for a slaughter house and you never know a shame?

BTW., I was expecting you in over a month and half from now, you set a 3 months time to overthrow the govenment in Addis and come in a festive march towards the palace in 4 kilo before a month and half. How much did you come nearer by now?

You & Dawit Wolde-Giorigis know shame when you still dare to walk among the grown-ups.

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Post by Tiago » 18 May 2023, 16:02

It is just a fresh memory how your cohorts used that abhorrent expression of half-cast and candidated a fellow human being for a slaughter house and you never know a shame?


DDT, we have never seen one comment from you condemning the killings of innocent citizens by OLF/shene.

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Post by Abere » 18 May 2023, 17:08

ጥያቄ አለኝ!

አንድ ሰው ከዚህ አይነት ቤተሰብ ቢገኝ ከጎሳ ፓለቲካ አንጻር ማንነቱ ምን ይባላል? የእርሱ ክልል ማን ትባላለች?

በአባቱ፥
1- የአባቱ አባት ወ/ኦ/ሮሞ
2- የአባቱ እናት ትግሬ

በእናቱ፥

3) የእናቱ አባት አማራ
4) የእናቱ እናት ጉራጌ

መታወቂያ ካርድ ይሰጠዋል ወይስ አይሰጠውም? ምን ተብሎ ይሞላል?


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Post by Educator » 18 May 2023, 19:55

Addis Abebe :lol: that's how most of us are constructed in Addis Ababa.
Abere wrote:
18 May 2023, 17:08
ጥያቄ አለኝ!

አንድ ሰው ከዚህ አይነት ቤተሰብ ቢገኝ ከጎሳ ፓለቲካ አንጻር ማንነቱ ምን ይባላል? የእርሱ ክልል ማን ትባላለች?

በአባቱ፥
1- የአባቱ አባት ወ/ኦ/ሮሞ
2- የአባቱ እናት ትግሬ

በእናቱ፥

3) የእናቱ አባት አማራ
4) የእናቱ እናት ጉራጌ

መታወቂያ ካርድ ይሰጠዋል ወይስ አይሰጠውም? ምን ተብሎ ይሞላል?


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Post by Abere » 18 May 2023, 20:05


ግሩም ነው - አዲስ አበቤ 86ኛው ብሄረሰብ መሆን አለበት ማለት። መታወቂያ ላይ ግን ብሄረሰብ አድስ አበቤ ተብሎ ይሞላል ወይ? :mrgreen:

Educator wrote:
18 May 2023, 19:55
Addis Abebe :lol: that's how most of us are constructed in Addis Ababa.
Abere wrote:
18 May 2023, 17:08
ጥያቄ አለኝ!

አንድ ሰው ከዚህ አይነት ቤተሰብ ቢገኝ ከጎሳ ፓለቲካ አንጻር ማንነቱ ምን ይባላል? የእርሱ ክልል ማን ትባላለች?

በአባቱ፥
1- የአባቱ አባት ወ/ኦ/ሮሞ
2- የአባቱ እናት ትግሬ

በእናቱ፥

3) የእናቱ አባት አማራ
4) የእናቱ እናት ጉራጌ

መታወቂያ ካርድ ይሰጠዋል ወይስ አይሰጠውም? ምን ተብሎ ይሞላል?


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Post by DefendTheTruth » 20 May 2023, 13:51

Abere wrote:
17 May 2023, 17:00


ሀ) መብቱን ያውቃል ግን 1ኛ ደረጃ ፈሪ ህዝብ ነው።

ለ) መብቱን ያውቃል ግን ሆዱን ይወዳል። የኳስ፥ መጠጥ፤ጫት ፥ሴት/ዝሙት/ ሱስ ይበልጥበታል።

ሐ) መብቱን አያውቅም፤ የባሌ አርብቶ አደር ይጫዎትበታል። መጥቶ በቡልዶዘር ቤቱን ያፈርስበታል።

መ) ፈሪም ሰነፍም ነው። ከክፍለሀገር ከደቡብ ወይም ከአማራ መጥተው ነጻ እንድያወጣው ቁጭ ብሎ ይጠብቃል።
ሠ) የአዲስ አበባ ወጣት ለትምህርት ቅርብ ስለሆነ መንገድ ላይ ሆኖ ከመጮህ አብርሆት በተ-መጻፍት ሄዶ እዉቀት ብገብይ የተሻለ ለዉጥ ማምጣት እንደምችል ስለሚያዉቅ

ይህም ነጥብ ይጨመርበት!

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Post by Abere » 20 May 2023, 16:14

DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 May 2023, 13:51

በ ሺዎች የሚቆጠሩ የአዲስ አበባ ታዳጊዎች የተወልዱበት ቤታቸው ላያቸው ላይ በአዳነች አበቤ እና ሽመልስ አብዲሳ ፈርሶባቸው ሜዳ ላይ ፈሰዋል- ትምህርት እና መጻህፍት ጋር ሳይሆን ከጅብ እና ከአውሬ እየተጋሉ ናቸው። ደግሞስ ትምህርት ሚኒስተር ያለፈ ተማሪ የለም ወድቋል - የኦነግ ጨርቅ ለመስቀል ግብግብ እንጅ ለሳይንስ፤ለፈጠራን ፉክክር የት አለ። ትምህርቱ ቀርቶበት ህይወቱ ቀን በደረሰችለት። ጽድቁ ቀርቶብኝ በቅጡ በኮነነኝ ይላል እንድህ አይነቱን አይን አውጣ ወረሙማ አይነቱን ፌዘኛ።

ሠ) የአዲስ አበባ ወጣት ለትምህርት ቅርብ ስለሆነ መንገድ ላይ ሆኖ ከመጮህ አብርሆት በተ-መጻፍት ሄዶ እዉቀት ብገብይ የተሻለ ለዉጥ ማምጣት እንደምችል ስለሚያዉቅ

ይህም ነጥብ ይጨመርበት!

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Post by Misraq » 20 May 2023, 19:56

Abere wrote:
18 May 2023, 17:08
ጥያቄ አለኝ!

አንድ ሰው ከዚህ አይነት ቤተሰብ ቢገኝ ከጎሳ ፓለቲካ አንጻር ማንነቱ ምን ይባላል? የእርሱ ክልል ማን ትባላለች?

በአባቱ፥
1- የአባቱ አባት ወ/ኦ/ሮሞ
2- የአባቱ እናት ትግሬ

በእናቱ፥

3) የእናቱ አባት አማራ
4) የእናቱ እናት ጉራጌ

መታወቂያ ካርድ ይሰጠዋል ወይስ አይሰጠውም? ምን ተብሎ ይሞላል?


this type of constructs can easily pick the just cause. lets check the just cause
1) They should't pick Oromo politic since it will expell three grand parents
2) They shuldn't pick Tegaru politics since it is only for Tigray and only Tigray
3) They should pick Amhara polticis sicne it is there for all

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Post by Abere » 20 May 2023, 20:47

አዲስ አበቤ ይሰማል? እራሱን አዲስ አበባ ከሰፈረው ማጅራት መች ኦሮሙማ ነጽ ያወጣ ጀግና።



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Post by Tiago » 22 May 2023, 14:07

ህዝባዊ እምቢተኝነት ያልተጠቀምንበት የሕዝብ መሣሪያ




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