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What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 17 Jan 2023, 06:05

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What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war?

Damien Leimbach Former Army, former Air Force

Oil. Oil, coal, gas and other resources. And this thirst will ultimately cause the breakup of the nation.

Russia inherited the crumbling infrastructure and paleolithic manufacturing capabilities of the Soviet Union. That wasn’t their fault. What they did about it later was their fault.

The country devolved into an oligarchy, where former Soviet industries (like Media, manufacturing, coal mining and oil refineries) were auctioned off to the highest bidder. Of course, the only people with money at that time were gangsters and high level politburo members.

These people, behaving like gangsters, simple squeezed the newly acquired properties for cash, they didn’t feel the need to improve them as they essentially had a state sanctioned monopoly.

Russia declined into a petrostate. With no real manufacturing capability or technology to export, oil and gas accounted for almost 25% of Russia's GDP and taxes on those are 45% of Russia's federal budget. The country lives and dies by oil. Which is fine, as long as prices are high and people are buying.

So having said that, two calamities hit Russia at about the same time in 2009. The world price for natural gas fell, and Qatar announced plans to build a pipeline to Europe. Russia had a long history of pressuring Europe into favorable trading terms, as Europe got as much as 45% of its gas from Russia. Falling prices were bad enough, but a competing source? Ruinous. Disastrous. Unthinkable.

One of the proposed routes to Europe was through Syria. And we all know how that went. Assad all but stated outright that he was declining the pipeline transit access, to protect the interests of his ally, Russia and their stranglehold on European energy.

But oil prices were still pretty high, even as natural gas was staying low. And guess who has a lot of untapped oil reserves?

Ukraine. And guess where the oil is? Crimea! So guess where the Russians invaded in 2014? That's right! Crimea!

Oh and guess where they discovered about two trillion dollars worth of natural gas? Luhansk and Donetsk, exactly the same territories that suddenly need to be de-nazified!


What a happy coincidence for Russia that the exact same places Russia remembered suddenly was always theirs (Crimea) and full of ethnic Russians that need to be saved from Ukrainian jewish nazis (Luhansk and Donetsk) are EXACTLY the same places they invaded.

Edit: Special thanks to Łukasz Rzepiński for pointing out that Eastern Ukraine is also full of rare earth metals and lithium deposits valued over ten trillion dollars. I mean, you’d have to be blind not to see what’s happening here.



Since the invasion began in February, Russia (according to the Canadian geopolitical risk firm SecDev and Ukrainian mining and steel industry executives) has seized: 41 coal fields, 27 natural gas sites, 14 propane sites, nine oil fields, six iron ore deposits, two titanium ore sites, two zirconium ore sites, one strontium site, one lithium site, one uranium site, one gold deposit and a significant quarry of limestone previously used for Ukrainian steel production.

It’s all about salvaging their starving economy by invading and commandeering Ukraine's fossil fuel industry.

It’s all about denying resources to the west and making them more dependent on Russia.

Of course they didn't plan on losing the war, they thought they could occupy the country in two weeks, have a bunch of fake elections and no one would do anything about it till it was too late, just like Crimea.

But the war is taking longer than they thought, 100,000 Russians are reported dead. The Russian army is decimated. The sanctions are hitting harder than they thought, China is not helping like they thought, the people are protesting, the people are fleeing the draft, the people are asking questions.

My prediction. The oligarchs will abandon Putin as they grow tired of the sanctions, and he will likely be assassinated or jailed where he will promptly be suicided. Without his iron rule, Russia will balkanize into a dozen smaller kingdoms, which no other country will attempt to stop because everyone is tired of their [deleted]. The local power brokers will consolidate their strength and declare themselves autonomous regions, mostly along ethnic lines.

Those that inherit nukes will be paid off by the international community (in food or fuel) to give them up. Those that won’t give them up will be shown the same hospitality that Seal team 6 showed Bin Laden, and the next guy will happily sell them to the west in exchange for a new power plant.

Russia is dead. It just doesn't know it yet.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Right » 17 Jan 2023, 12:13

Russia is dead?
That was the prediction of Napoleon in 1812. But the reverse happened. The end of Napoleon.

And that was the prediction of Adolf Hitler in 1941 and the mighty German war machine. The reverse happened. Hitler killed himself.

In 1991 the USSR collapsed. The US thought that was the end of Russia and salivated taking over Russia’s energy. NATO travelled the long Journey as Napoleon and Hitler did to finish off the Russians. History repeats itself. Just watch how the reverse happens.

Russia is not Iraq. The beginning of the end to the US dollar as a world reserve currency has now been planted. Without printing paper as money, there is no hegemony.

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Post by Abdisa » 17 Jan 2023, 13:23

In the end, Biden and Putin will head to Pretoria, South Africa to sign a peace agreement, and Zelensky will go back to doing comedy shows wearing a military uniform. :mrgreen:

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Post by Abere » 17 Jan 2023, 13:34

In my view, Ukraine is hurt more than Tigray province of Ethiopia. The reasons I am saying this

1) Millions of Ukrainians are scattered throughout the West. Their lives are changed forever. The likelihood they will return home once they become immigrants to another country is very little. On the other hand, the Tigre-TPLF did not migrate or flee anywhere. They are where they were and are still remains as a province. Only the criminal thugs ( such as Samri genocidal thugs escaped to Sudan) and these are nothing in number.

2) Ukrainians are fighting with another country and the fight is brutal whereas in the case of Tigray province, a rebel (TPLF) fought its own country. The government of Ethiopia as such showed kind heart and hesitate doing lethal destructions. Leniency doubled with governmental conspiracy has not make the rebel war in Tigray as such worthy. Luckily Tigre-TPLF got a soft enemy, unlikely the jaw of Ukraine's enemy is very tough and one of the most powerful in the planet The Tigre-TPLF easily surrendered anyways in the end. Now, the world is shipping wheat and oil to boost them nutritionally. I pray no destructive weapon is not smuggled within the bags of the wheat being shipped.

May God save humanity from a devastating 3rd world war as the war in Ukraine may draw many actors.

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Post by kerenite » 17 Jan 2023, 15:44

Abdisa wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 13:23
In the end, Biden and Putin will head to Pretoria, South Africa to sign a peace agreement, and Zelensky will go back to doing comedy shows wearing a military uniform. :mrgreen:
Obbo Abdissa,

I am quite aware that you and obbo Ejersa are the only pure oromos here. The others who pose here as oromos are imposters.

For those of you who are oromo language challenged, obbo means Mr. Or ato. If you have any problems with oromo language I am more than happy to help.

Isti.....

Between you obbo Abdissa and me, if tomorrow uncle yemane monkey or uncle charlie claim that the ukrainians are victims, their land is overrun by a big neighbor country. We have experienced similar or worse problems in the past. Our big neighbor sent its torserawi and overrun our tiny country. We were begging the arab countries and the western world to help us as the Ukrainians are doing as we speak.

Hey! Those are not my words but the words of monkey and charlie. Once you read such from them, you will definitely condemn russia aydelem! Sinitewawek anitenanek obbo Abdissa. Lol

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Post by Abe Abraham » 17 Jan 2023, 15:57

European Leaders ADMIT Ukraine Peace Deal Was A Sham


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Post by Dark Energy » 17 Jan 2023, 16:00

Guys,

Russia is ruled by mafia's and gangsters. It has been moving to the wrong direction. Had the West not insisted Ukraine to destroy its 1700 nuclear war heads, the gangsters in Russia would have behaved today. Russia could have been the most powerful country in the world. Russia had technologies during and before the second world war nobody ever heard off. All this rockets and ballistic missiles originated in Russia prior and during the second world war. American helicopters and some of the second world war, fighter and bomber aircrafts were designed by Russians who immigrated to Europe and USA as well. The Germans tried to conquer the Russians for over a thousand years without any avail. The last try was Hitler's failed adventure to Russia. You see, the Russians are ethnic Slavic's. All Slavic's were slaves to the Roman empire, Hence, Hitler's disdain to the Russians. Unfortunately for Russia, Lenin and co's manifest arrived in 1918 which ultimately was the very reason, the Soviets failed. Hence what you have today is a mafia going bankrupt state led by African/Arabic style dictator named Vladimir Putin. Ukraine is heading in the right direction. Russian resources have been manipulated by the ruling mafiosos in Russia. The only power that can compete in the Future against the US is China. However, China needs to shed the garbage of communism out of its own back. China depends on US and European economy more than you would ever know it. Thanks to the likes of Walmart, Amazon, and Tesla imports of raw materials from China. Europeans are the silent strong players behind the curtain in this picture.

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Post by Abere » 17 Jan 2023, 16:11

One thing that should wonder us all is, with all the brutal fight going in Ukraine, Ukraine has been donating wheat to Tigray. How could that even be possible?

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Post by Dark Energy » 17 Jan 2023, 16:30

Abere,

Ukraine was known as the bread basket of the Soviet Union during second World War. Actually, when Hitler invaded Russia, the Ukrainians received the German soldiers with open arms. However, the German Racist and hateful organization the SS, arrived after the soldiers and started killing the Ukrainian citizens with atrocities unknown to the world ever before. Ukraine is very rich. The Russians do not see any bright future without Ukraine on their side. They don't want to destroy Ukraine for good. That would be the end of Russia as well. Hence, it is a much softer war with heavy global interest at stake. The Ukranian leader is trying to gain friendly countries alignment from the third World. BTW, Ukraine has a huge Jewish population. Hence, it is not going back to the Russian way of life.

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Post by Roha » 17 Jan 2023, 16:33

The writer, Damien Leimbach Former Army, former Air Force, is another very ill informed or a tool to disseminate American propaganda. He would not reveal or dare to say a word or two, why America is fighting a proxy war in Ukraine with billions of dollars of tanks and missiles.
Can he tell us what America is doing in eastern Europe? Is it Russia or the United States that is ten thousand miles away from the war zone in Ukraine?

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Post by Dark Energy » 17 Jan 2023, 16:41

Agame filth, Roha

The Soviets were in Cuba when the US was in West Europe and Israel years ago. Now, Russia does its work though nuclear submarines, and the US dominates with space technologies even the Russians could not compete against. Last time, the Soviet Union went bankrupt was in attempting to compete with the star wars program. Hence, Gorbachev gave in. In other words, the US has the ability to do so. The dictators in Russia would do the worst if they could :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Roha » 17 Jan 2023, 16:56

Dark Arab Slave,
Learn to read properly what is written. Do not imitate here like your camel herding masters. :roll: :roll: My issue is what the American forgot to mention, not the old Cuban missile crisis.
Dark Energy wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 16:41
Agame filth, Roha

The Soviets were in Cuba when the US was in West Europe and Israel years ago. Now, Russia does its work though nuclear submarines, and the US dominates with space technologies even the Russians could not compete against. Last time, the Soviet Union went bankrupt was in attempting to compete with the star wars program. Hence, Gorbachev gave in. In other words, the US has the ability to do so. The dictators in Russia would do the worst if they could :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Dark Energy » 17 Jan 2023, 17:11

Qomal Agame Roha,

Stop talkling with an Arab didlo in your mouth. Did the Araps rape your behind years ago. Shi--t head. [deleted], America can come to the rescue of Ukraine if it can do so, and if it is necessary. Anta qomal, what can you do about it? :lol: :lol:

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Post by Roha » 17 Jan 2023, 17:18

Dark Arab slave,
It was you, an Arab toyboy, who sold his stinking azzz, his Tigre language and identity to the filthy Arab.
Arab toyboy, stop acting here as if you are a man in an Ethiopian forum. Clean the stinking Arab shiiit in your mouth first.
:lol: :lol:
Dark Energy wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 17:11
Qomal Agame Roha,

Stop talkling with an Arab didlo in your mouth. Did the Araps rape your behind years ago. Shi--t head. [deleted] head, America can come to the Ukraine rescue if it can do so, and if it is necessary. Anta qomal, what can you do about it? :lol: :lol:

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Post by Dark Energy » 17 Jan 2023, 20:42

Qomal agame Roha,

Take it easy ol' man agame. Can you serve a couple of beles like your qomal father to do. How about prostituting like your qomal mother, wife and daughters used to do. . Did you know that the arab used to fu-ck your sisters for mere 25 cents in Asmara and Addis Ababa. Your black aszz was whipped by African negros in Addis for decades. Insults aside, you can't justify what you wrote, can you ? America is almighty, hence Ukraine is in good hands. That agame version white trash gangista ... , Putin has found himself in a hole. Aszz Ho-le. :lol: :lol:

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Post by Roha » 17 Jan 2023, 23:00

Dark Arab slave,
It was you, an Arab toyboy, who sold his stinking azzz, his Tigre language and identity to the filthy Arab.
Arab toyboy, stop acting here as if you are a man in an Ethiopian forum. Clean the stinking Arab shiiit in your mouth first.
:lol: :lol:
Dark Energy wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 20:42
Qomal agame Roha,

Take it easy ol' man agame. Can you serve a couple of beles like your qomal father to do. How about prostituting like your qomal mother, wife and daughters used to do. . Did you know that the arab used to fu-ck your sisters for mere 25 cents in Asmara and Addis Ababa. Your black aszz was whipped by African negros in Addis for decades. Insults aside, you can't justify what you wrote, can you ? America is almighty, hence Ukraine is in good hands. That agame version white trash gangista ... , Putin has found himself in a hole. Aszz Ho-le. :lol: :lol:

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Post by Dark Energy » 17 Jan 2023, 23:28

Qomal Roha,
ኣንታ ኣረጊት ዓጋም ወዲዛ ቆሳል ምጥራ ናይ ሕርካም ተምጽኦ ጋኔን አሎካ መስለኒ ሽልሖ ዓረብ አጸሊሉካዩ መስለኒ :lol: :lol: Agame boy, what is your obsession with the Arab Private 8) :lol: :lol:
Agame,
You seem to be nervous. Keep the fonts regular size. :lol: :lol:

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Post by Educator » 18 Jan 2023, 00:34

Ditto!
You have good understanding of world politics.
Right wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 12:13
Russia is dead?
That was the prediction of Napoleon in 1812. But the reverse happened. The end of Napoleon.

And that was the prediction of Adolf Hitler in 1941 and the mighty German war machine. The reverse happened. Hitler killed himself.

In 1991 the USSR collapsed. The US thought that was the end of Russia and salivated taking over Russia’s energy. NATO travelled the long Journey as Napoleon and Hitler did to finish off the Russians. History repeats itself. Just watch how the reverse happens.

Russia is not Iraq. The beginning of the end to the US dollar as a world reserve currency has now been planted. Without printing paper as money, there is no hegemony.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 18 Jan 2023, 09:30

እንዲህ ነው እንጂ እያዋዙ እያስተማሩ ማዝናናት :mrgreen:






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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Selam/ » 18 Jan 2023, 10:13

I would still not underestimate Putin. He’s one [deleted] away from the nukes. He could turn Europe into ashes in a blitz of a second.
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What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war?

Damien Leimbach Former Army, former Air Force

Oil. Oil, coal, gas and other resources. And this thirst will ultimately cause the breakup of the nation.

Russia inherited the crumbling infrastructure and paleolithic manufacturing capabilities of the Soviet Union. That wasn’t their fault. What they did about it later was their fault.

The country devolved into an oligarchy, where former Soviet industries (like Media, manufacturing, coal mining and oil refineries) were auctioned off to the highest bidder. Of course, the only people with money at that time were gangsters and high level politburo members.

These people, behaving like gangsters, simple squeezed the newly acquired properties for cash, they didn’t feel the need to improve them as they essentially had a state sanctioned monopoly.

Russia declined into a petrostate. With no real manufacturing capability or technology to export, oil and gas accounted for almost 25% of Russia's GDP and taxes on those are 45% of Russia's federal budget. The country lives and dies by oil. Which is fine, as long as prices are high and people are buying.

So having said that, two calamities hit Russia at about the same time in 2009. The world price for natural gas fell, and Qatar announced plans to build a pipeline to Europe. Russia had a long history of pressuring Europe into favorable trading terms, as Europe got as much as 45% of its gas from Russia. Falling prices were bad enough, but a competing source? Ruinous. Disastrous. Unthinkable.

One of the proposed routes to Europe was through Syria. And we all know how that went. Assad all but stated outright that he was declining the pipeline transit access, to protect the interests of his ally, Russia and their stranglehold on European energy.

But oil prices were still pretty high, even as natural gas was staying low. And guess who has a lot of untapped oil reserves?

Ukraine. And guess where the oil is? Crimea! So guess where the Russians invaded in 2014? That's right! Crimea!

Oh and guess where they discovered about two trillion dollars worth of natural gas? Luhansk and Donetsk, exactly the same territories that suddenly need to be de-nazified!


What a happy coincidence for Russia that the exact same places Russia remembered suddenly was always theirs (Crimea) and full of ethnic Russians that need to be saved from Ukrainian jewish nazis (Luhansk and Donetsk) are EXACTLY the same places they invaded.

Edit: Special thanks to Łukasz Rzepiński for pointing out that Eastern Ukraine is also full of rare earth metals and lithium deposits valued over ten trillion dollars. I mean, you’d have to be blind not to see what’s happening here.



Since the invasion began in February, Russia (according to the Canadian geopolitical risk firm SecDev and Ukrainian mining and steel industry executives) has seized: 41 coal fields, 27 natural gas sites, 14 propane sites, nine oil fields, six iron ore deposits, two titanium ore sites, two zirconium ore sites, one strontium site, one lithium site, one uranium site, one gold deposit and a significant quarry of limestone previously used for Ukrainian steel production.

It’s all about salvaging their starving economy by invading and commandeering Ukraine's fossil fuel industry.

It’s all about denying resources to the west and making them more dependent on Russia.

Of course they didn't plan on losing the war, they thought they could occupy the country in two weeks, have a bunch of fake elections and no one would do anything about it till it was too late, just like Crimea.

But the war is taking longer than they thought, 100,000 Russians are reported dead. The Russian army is decimated. The sanctions are hitting harder than they thought, China is not helping like they thought, the people are protesting, the people are fleeing the draft, the people are asking questions.

My prediction. The oligarchs will abandon Putin as they grow tired of the sanctions, and he will likely be assassinated or jailed where he will promptly be suicided. Without his iron rule, Russia will balkanize into a dozen smaller kingdoms, which no other country will attempt to stop because everyone is tired of their [deleted]. The local power brokers will consolidate their strength and declare themselves autonomous regions, mostly along ethnic lines.

Those that inherit nukes will be paid off by the international community (in food or fuel) to give them up. Those that won’t give them up will be shown the same hospitality that Seal team 6 showed Bin Laden, and the next guy will happily sell them to the west in exchange for a new power plant.

Russia is dead. It just doesn't know it yet.

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