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ኢሳያስ ጦሩ ከኢትዮጵያ እንዲወጣ ይፈልጋል፣ ችግሩ ግን

Post by eden » 03 Dec 2022, 14:20

ከኢኮኖሚና የውጭ ጫና አንፃር፣ ኢሳያስ ጦሩ ከኢትዮጵያ እንዲወጣ ይፈልግ ይሆናል. ችግሩ ግን ጦሩ አገርቤት ሲመለስ ጥያቄ ያነሳብኛል ብሎ ይፈራል

ከአሁን በፊት በባድመ ጦርነት ማግስት፣ ጦርነቱ እና ያስከተለውን መስዋትነት ቁጭ ብለን አመራሩን እንገምግም ብለው እውቅ የጦር መሪዎች አፋጥጠውት ነበር. ይህን ተግዳሮትም ቁም ስቅሉን አይቶ፣ በስተመጨረሻ በጅምላ እስር ተሻግሮት ነበር

ዘንድሮም ጦሩ እንገምግም እንደሚል ይጠበቃል. ጦሩ አገርቤት ሲመለስ ጥያቄ ያነሳብኛል ብሎ ይፈራል

ጥያቄዎቹ ብዙ ቢሆኑም ቅሉ፣ ዋና ዋናዎቹ:
  • ጦርነቱና መጠን አስፈላጊነት
  • መስዋዕትነት መጠን ተገቢነት
  • የደረስው የኢኮኖሚና ዲፕሎማሲና አለም አቀፍ የገፅታ ኪሳራ

ስለዚህ ቢያንስ ቢያንስ ግዜ መግዛቱን ይፈልገዋል. ዝግጅት ለማድረግ ማለት ነው

ዞሮ ዞሮ፣ ጦሩ አገርቤት ይመለሳል - ጥያቄው ግን - እንደ የዛሬ ሃያ አመቱ ይበላቸዋል ወይስ ይበላል?

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Post by Sholla Addis » 03 Dec 2022, 15:10

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The dictator will typically court-martial some officers for crimes they committed while he gave the go-ahead, and high rank officers will face jail time or early retirement; however.

Eritrea is not immune to this. After a war, dictatorship leadership are always afraid that the army will remove them from power.

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Post by euroland » 03 Dec 2022, 16:08

Funny how you little two agames are discussing the “difficult time” ahead for Issays and its military. Did you just forget that the same leader and his gallant military just decimated a well armed of a million plus TPLF force? The Eritrean military is coming home soon as victorious and a deserved recognition and promotion for its superb military leadership is in the works. Unlike the inexperienced PM in south where he distributed military ranks like candies in the middle of unfinished war and to most undeserved military officers, PIA will do his now after his officers accomplished the mission flawlessly.
eden wrote:
03 Dec 2022, 14:20
ከኢኮኖሚና የውጭ ጫና አንፃር፣ ኢሳያስ ጦሩ ከኢትዮጵያ እንዲወጣ ይፈልግ ይሆናል. ችግሩ ግን ጦሩ አገርቤት ሲመለስ ጥያቄ ያነሳብኛል ብሎ ይፈራል

ከአሁን በፊት በባድመ ጦርነት ማግስት፣ ጦርነቱ እና ያስከተለውን መስዋትነት ቁጭ ብለን አመራሩን እንገምግም ብለው እውቅ የጦር መሪዎች አፋጥጠውት ነበር. ይህን ተግዳሮትም ቁም ስቅሉን አይቶ፣ በስተመጨረሻ በጅምላ እስር ተሻግሮት ነበር

ዘንድሮም ጦሩ እንገምግም እንደሚል ይጠበቃል. ጦሩ አገርቤት ሲመለስ ጥያቄ ያነሳብኛል ብሎ ይፈራል

ጥያቄዎቹ ብዙ ቢሆኑም ቅሉ፣ ዋና ዋናዎቹ:
  • ጦርነቱና መጠን አስፈላጊነት
  • መስዋዕትነት መጠን ተገቢነት
  • የደረስው የኢኮኖሚና ዲፕሎማሲና አለም አቀፍ የገፅታ ኪሳራ

ስለዚህ ቢያንስ ቢያንስ ግዜ መግዛቱን ይፈልገዋል. ዝግጅት ለማድረግ ማለት ነው

ዞሮ ዞሮ፣ ጦሩ አገርቤት ይመለሳል - ጥያቄው ግን - እንደ የዛሬ ሃያ አመቱ ይበላቸዋል ወይስ ይበላል?

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Post by eden » 06 Jan 2023, 17:05

Prof. Ezqiel: “መውጣት አይደለም እንደውም ዛላምበሳ ላይ ምሽግ እየቆፈረ ነው.”


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Post by Abere » 06 Jan 2023, 17:17

ይኸ የኤርትራ እና የአማራ ቅዠት ሊገድላችሁ ነው። ቦቅቧቃ ወያኔ አንድ ቀን እራሳችሁን ችላችሁ ጦረነት አትገጥሙም። ወይ ኦነግ ላይ ወይ አማራ ላይ ወይ ኤርትራ ላይ ታዝላችሁ ነው ጦር ሜዳ መግባት የምትችሉት። የእናንተን ወንድነት የጎንደር ገበሬ በ3 ቀን ደፈረው - ቀበቶ እያስፈታ ትግራይ ገባ። የጎንደር ገበሬ አሸንፏችሁ አሜሪካ ጎዳና ላይ እየተንከባለላችሁ ጆባይደን እዬዬ ለቀቃችሁት.. :lol: :lol: Gondar farmer took the virginly of Tigre woyane :lol:

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Post by eden » 20 Jan 2023, 13:21

eden wrote:
03 Dec 2022, 14:20


ዞሮ ዞሮ፣ ጦሩ አገርቤት ይመለሳል
Eritrea withdraws troops from Ethiopia
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Residents from different parts of Ethiopia's northern Tigray region have told the BBC that soldiers from neighbouring Eritrea are withdrawing in large numbers from the areas they have been controlling.

An eyewitness in Adwa town told the BBC that Eritrean army vehicles have been passing through the town since Friday morning.

"They [soldiers] have been travelling in a lot of vehicles," he said.

Describing the number of soldiers as "like ants" the resident said the vehicles "were sounding trumpets" and the soldiers were singing.

"They were singing with flags and also posting various slogans on their vehicles," he added.

Meanwhile, the Ethiopian federal army was guarding the outskirts of the town, the resident said.

According to the peace agreement between the federal government and the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF), the withdrawal of foreign forces and non-federal armed groups from Tigray would take place when Tigray forces handed over their heavy weapons to the federal government, which they have.

Another resident of Aksum town also told the BBC that dozens of vehicles transporting Eritrean troops and weapons have been passing through the town.

"I have counted 70 vehicles, 12 tanks, and many others. The soldiers were in different vehicles. They are coming in the direction of Adwa and heading towards the city of Shire," said Berihu Kahsay, who was among residents who lined the streets to witness the withdrawal.

Several sources in Eritrea have also confirmed the mass withdrawal of the troops and military equipment.

Eritrean soldiers were deployed in November 2020 to back the Ethiopian government's offensive in Tigray.

The war which ended in a peace agreement late last year killed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions.

Several human rights organisations accused all parties, including Eritrean soldiers, of committing atrocities during the conflict.

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Post by euroland » 20 Jan 2023, 13:45

edu
Do you agree with these “savages” of the Shaebia soldiers’ slogan?




eden wrote:
20 Jan 2023, 13:21
eden wrote:
03 Dec 2022, 14:20


ዞሮ ዞሮ፣ ጦሩ አገርቤት ይመለሳል
Eritrea withdraws troops from Ethiopia
BBC
Residents from different parts of Ethiopia's northern Tigray region have told the BBC that soldiers from neighbouring Eritrea are withdrawing in large numbers from the areas they have been controlling.

An eyewitness in Adwa town told the BBC that Eritrean army vehicles have been passing through the town since Friday morning.

"They [soldiers] have been travelling in a lot of vehicles," he said.

Describing the number of soldiers as "like ants" the resident said the vehicles "were sounding trumpets" and the soldiers were singing.

"They were singing with flags and also posting various slogans on their vehicles," he added.

Meanwhile, the Ethiopian federal army was guarding the outskirts of the town, the resident said.

According to the peace agreement between the federal government and the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF), the withdrawal of foreign forces and non-federal armed groups from Tigray would take place when Tigray forces handed over their heavy weapons to the federal government, which they have.

Another resident of Aksum town also told the BBC that dozens of vehicles transporting Eritrean troops and weapons have been passing through the town.

"I have counted 70 vehicles, 12 tanks, and many others. The soldiers were in different vehicles. They are coming in the direction of Adwa and heading towards the city of Shire," said Berihu Kahsay, who was among residents who lined the streets to witness the withdrawal.

Several sources in Eritrea have also confirmed the mass withdrawal of the troops and military equipment.

Eritrean soldiers were deployed in November 2020 to back the Ethiopian government's offensive in Tigray.

The war which ended in a peace agreement late last year killed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions.

Several human rights organisations accused all parties, including Eritrean soldiers, of committing atrocities during the conflict.

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Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 20 Jan 2023, 14:19

ጦሩ ወደ ትግራይ ሲዘምት ለምን ብሎ በ ኢሳያስ መንግሥት ላይ አላመፀም። ዛሪ ወደ ኤርትራ ሲመለስ ኢሳያስ ወዮለት ነው በ ሎጂክ ውሱንነት የማትታማው Eden የምትለን። አይመስለኝም።

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Post by quindibu » 20 Jan 2023, 15:02

euroland wrote:
20 Jan 2023, 13:45
edu
Do you agree with these “savages” of the Shaebia soldiers’ slogan?




Debretsion said this just a week before they ignited the war on Nov 03, 2020:

"ትግራዋይ ኣኽቢርካ እምበር ኣሰኵንካን ኣበሳቢስካን ምንባር ከምዘይከኣል ፈሊጥኩም ንባዕልኹም ኢልኩም ሕሰቡ::"

Unfortunately, it demanded sweat and blood to force them understand their place in the order of things........So it was imperative for them to hear us saying: without guns, there would be no armed predation, and without armed predation, Tigray is just the Tigray we have known since time immemorial- an insignificant dirt-poor region.

We just wrested the guns from them, making them irrelevant, hence the apt message: Game Over! To add a layer to their inferiority complex and their chronic sense of helplessness, the message ከምዚ ኢና is also appropriate and timely!

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Post by euroland » 20 Jan 2023, 16:06

quindibu wrote:
20 Jan 2023, 15:02
euroland wrote:
20 Jan 2023, 13:45
edu
Do you agree with these “savages” of the Shaebia soldiers’ slogan?




Debretsion said this just a week before they ignited the war on Nov 03, 2020:

"ትግራዋይ ኣኽቢርካ እምበር ኣሰኵንካን ኣበሳቢስካን ምንባር ከምዘይከኣል ፈሊጥኩም ንባዕልኹም ኢልኩም ሕሰቡ::"

Unfortunately, it demanded sweat and blood to force them understand their place in the order of things........So it was imperative for them to hear us saying: without guns, there would be no armed predation, and without armed predation, Tigray is just the Tigray we have known since time immemorial- an insignificant dirt-poor region.

We just wrested the guns from them, making them irrelevant, hence the apt message: Game Over! To add a layer to their inferiority complex and their chronic sense of helplessness, the message ከምዚ ኢና is also appropriate and timely!
I can’t say it any better!! Wedi Erey!

The noise empty barrel, the Weyane cadres seems to be a bit depressed lately ever since their coward Weyane have been handling the few remaining of its heavey weaponry and also hand over Adi grat and other villages to ENDF. They really bought the fake propaganda the Weyane leaders were spreading that they wouldn’t disarm and surrender one single AK-47 to their enemies. As always, the truth caught up with them, hence, a deep depression sets in.

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Post by eden » 26 Jan 2023, 17:32

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
20 Jan 2023, 14:19
ጦሩ ወደ ትግራይ ሲዘምት ለምን ብሎ በኢሳያስ መንግሥት ላይ አላመፀም። ዛሪ ወደ ኤርትራ ሲመለስ ኢሳያስ ወዮለት ነው በሎጂክ ውሱንነት የማትታማው Eden የምትለን። አይመስለኝም።
ነፍ የአብይ ውታፍ ነቃይ አይቻለው፣ ነፍ የኢሳያስ ውታፍ ነቃይ አይቻለው፣ የሁለቱንም ውታፍ የሚነቅል ግን አንተን አየው

‘ልፋ ያለው’ ማለት አንተ ነህ lol

On serious note, take 10 minutes and try googling ’menkae’ and ‘yemin’ and ‘mai habar’ to see how dissent or opposition is dealt with. Ask yourself what DERG would have done to you if you opposed its policy. For us, HGDEF is DERG 2.0

You can’t control population forever though. Especially, war aftermath like this one take the spirit of struggle to a whole different level.

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