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Ukraine: NATO countries are running out of arms supplies for Ukraine

Post by Abe Abraham » 30 Nov 2022, 01:58

From my French source :
  • Ukraine: NATO countries are running out of arms supplies for Ukraine

    The United States and other NATO countries are working to find reserves for new arms deliveries to Ukraine. This was reported by The New York Times on November 27, citing its sources.

    According to the publication, which quotes the BBC, NATO and EU countries had drastically reduced their stockpiles of arsenals over the past decades and were unprepared for such a conflict.

    “Even the United States has only a limited stockpile of weapons that the Ukrainians need, with Washington unwilling to divert key weapons from potentially worrisome regions such as Taiwan and the Korean Peninsula, where the United States United take on China and North Korea," the NYT noted.

    "A day in Ukraine is a month or more in Afghanistan," reports the NYT quoting Camilla Grand, a defense expert at the European Council on Foreign Relations, who until recently served as NATO's assistant secretary general for defense investments.

    The purchase of ammunition for Ukraine is envisaged in South Korea. There is even talk of NATO investing in former factories in the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Bulgaria to resume production of Soviet-caliber shells for Ukrainian artillery.

    In total, NATO countries have already supplied Ukraine with arms worth around $40 billion, roughly equivalent to France's annual defense budget.

    According to another NATO representative, small countries have exhausted their potential. 20 of its 30 members have practically exhausted it. But the ten others could still give more, the NATO representative said, including major allies France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands.

    The Russians are also having resupply issues, writes the NYT. They now use less artillery shells, but they still have plenty, although some ammo is old and less reliable.


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Re: Ukraine: NATO countries are running out of arms supplies for Ukraine

Post by Tog Wajale E.R. » 30 Nov 2022, 02:11

I Think We Need To Send The Arms That Will Be Confiscated From Dedebit Woorgach Chigray Terrorist Juntas To Ukraine To Help The Beggars Zelenski Junta.

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Re: Ukraine: NATO countries are running out of arms supplies for Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine: NATO countries are running out of arms supplies for Ukraine

Post by Noble Amhara » 30 Nov 2022, 02:28

New York Times

BRUSSELS — When the Soviet Union collapsed, European nations grabbed the “peace dividend,” drastically shrinking their defense budgets, their armies and their arsenals.

With the rise of Al Qaeda nearly a decade later, terrorism became the target, requiring different military investments and lighter, more expeditionary forces. Even NATO’s long engagement in Afghanistan bore little resemblance to a land war in Europe, heavy on artillery and tanks, that nearly all defense ministries thought would never recur.

But it has.

In Ukraine, the kind of European war thought inconceivable is chewing up the modest stockpiles of artillery, ammunition and air defenses of what some in NATO call Europe’s “bonsai armies,” after the tiny Japanese trees.



Even the mighty United States has only limited stocks of the weapons the Ukrainians want and need, and Washington is unwilling to divert key weapons from delicate regions like Taiwan and Korea, where China and North Korea are constantly testing the limits.

Now, nine months into the war, the West’s fundamental unpreparedness has set off a mad scramble to supply Ukraine with what it needs while also replenishing NATO stockpiles. As both sides burn through weaponry and ammunition at a pace not seen since World War II, the competition to keep arsenals flush has become a critical front that could prove decisive to Ukraine’s effort.

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The amount of artillery being used is staggering, NATO officials say. In Afghanistan, NATO forces might have fired even 300 artillery rounds a day and had no real worries about air defense. But Ukraine can fire thousands of rounds daily and remains desperate for air defense against Russian missiles and Iranian-made drones.

“A day in Ukraine is a month or more in Afghanistan,” said Camille Grand, a defense expert at the European Council on Foreign Relations, who until recently was NATO’s assistant secretary general for defense investment.

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Last summer in the Donbas region, the Ukrainians were firing 6,000 to 7,000 artillery rounds each day, a senior NATO official said. The Russians were firing 40,000 to 50,000 rounds per day.

By comparison, the United States produces only 15,000 rounds each month.

So the West is scrambling to find increasingly scarce Soviet-era equipment and ammunition that Ukraine can use now, including S-300 air defense missiles, T-72 tanks and especially Soviet-caliber artillery shells.

The West is also trying to come up with alternative systems, even if they are older, to substitute for shrinking stocks of expensive air-defense missiles and anti-tank Javelins. It is sending strong signals to Western defense industries that longer-term contracts are in the offing — and that more shifts of workers should be employed and older factory lines should be refurbished. It is trying to purchase ammunition from countries like South Korea to “backfill” stocks being sent to Ukraine.

There are even discussions about NATO investing in old factories in the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Bulgaria to restart the manufacturing of Soviet-caliber 152-mm and 122-mm shells for Ukraine’s still largely Soviet-era artillery armory.

But the obstacles are as myriad as the solutions being pursued.

NATO countries — often with great fanfare — have provided Ukraine some advanced Western artillery, which uses NATO-standard 155-mm shells. But NATO systems are rarely certified to use rounds produced by other NATO countries, which often make the shells differently. (That is a way for arms manufacturers to ensure that they can sell ammunition for their guns, the way printer manufacturers make their money on ink cartridges.)

And then there is the problem of legal export controls, which govern whether guns and ammunition sold to one country can be sent to another one at war. This is the reason the Swiss, claiming neutrality, refused Germany permission to export to Ukraine needed antiaircraft ammunition made by Switzerland and sold to Germany. Italy has a similar restriction on arms exports.

One NATO official described the mixed bag of systems that Ukraine must now cope with as “NATO’s petting zoo,” given the prevalence of animal names for weapons like the Gepard (German for cheetah) and the surface-to-air missile system called the Crotale (French for rattlesnake). So resupply is difficult, as is maintenance.

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The Russians, too, are having resupply problems of their own. They are now using fewer artillery rounds, but they have a lot of them, even if some are old and less reliable. Facing a similar scramble, Moscow is also trying to ramp up military production and is reportedly seeking to buy missiles from North Korea and more cheap drones from Iran.

Given the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014 and the war in the Donbas region, NATO’s new military spending goals — 2 percent of gross domestic product by 2024, with 20 percent of that on equipment instead of salaries and pensions — seem modest. But even those were largely ignored by key member countries.

In February, when the war in Ukraine began, stockpiles for many nations were only about half of what they were supposed to be, the NATO official said, and there had been little progress in creating weapons that could be used interchangeably by NATO countries.

Even within the European Union, only 18 percent of defense expenditures by nations are cooperative.

For NATO countries that have given large amounts of weapons to Ukraine, especially frontline states like Poland and the Baltics, the burden of replacing them has proved heavy.

The French, for instance, have provided some advanced weapons and created a 200-million-euro fund (about $208 million) for Ukraine to buy arms made in France. But France has already given at least 18 modern Caesar howitzers to Ukraine — about 20 percent of all of its existing artillery — and is reluctant to provide more.

The European Union has approved €3.1 billion ($3.2 billion) to repay member states for what they provide to Ukraine, but that fund, the European Peace Facility, is nearly 90 percent depleted.

In total, NATO countries have so far provided some $40 billion in weaponry to Ukraine, roughly the size of France’s annual defense budget.

Smaller countries have exhausted their potential, another NATO official said, with 20 of its 30 members “pretty tapped out.” But the remaining 10 can still provide more, he suggested, especially larger allies. That would include France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands.

NATO’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, has advised the alliance — including, pointedly, Germany — that NATO guidelines requiring members to keep stockpiles should not be a pretext to limit arms exports to Ukraine. But it is also true that Germany and France, like the United States, want to calibrate the weapons Ukraine gets, to prevent escalation and direct attacks on Russia.

By Steven Erlanger and Lara Jakes
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/26/worl ... raine.html

Ukraine is saved by 50 Billion Dollars of Western Equipment. Without such Ukraine would be under Russian Control

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Re: Ukraine: NATO countries are running out of arms supplies for Ukraine

Post by Tog Wajale E.R. » 30 Nov 2022, 03:08

Noble Amhara A.K.A. Noble Agga*mes:-- Soviet Union Warsaw Pact Did Not Collapsed. Please Read The History And Watch The True Documentary.




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Re: Ukraine: NATO countries are running out of arms supplies for Ukraine

Post by Misraq » 30 Nov 2022, 03:47

Brother Noble Amhara,

I am glad by you learnt the war is between NATO and Russia. The battleground is Ukraine. Next time don't trust western medias

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