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FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by eden » 23 Nov 2022, 21:55

Historical FANO is self sustaining freedom fighter that is by the people for the people.

HGDEF is a clique that’s managed to decimate an entire generation. Systems of education, healthcare, justice, economy etc etc are non existent under HGDEF. As such, it’s the polar opposite of freedom fighter: It’s freedom snatcher! It jails, tortures and kills with impunity, destroying families in the process. It enslaves the population and we all know this from our families back home and from our activists.

I don’t see FANO as partner of HGDEF. FANO is people based or, at least, it’s supposed to aspire to pursue the interest of the people. As such its allies or partners should be similar groups from other communities, not the tormentors of other communities.

Feel free to reflect or react, add or subtract

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Noble Amhara » 23 Nov 2022, 22:02

Amhara has the right to use Red Sea Port and Trade with Eritrea without violating Eritrea Sovereignty Eritrea is historically known as MedriBahre or Bahir Negash and largely was self ruling state
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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Fed_Up » 23 Nov 2022, 22:03

eden wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 21:55

Feel free to reflect or react, add or subtract
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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Noble Amhara » 23 Nov 2022, 22:09

Edu

You seem to be sponsoring Lidetu 1.0 Lidetu 2.0 to stop Eritrea and Ethiopia peace deal. To be honest Fano sees Shabia as a stabilizing force of the Red Sea-Mereb Melash . Shabia is made up of Eritreans. If you think TPLF -yialkel has a chance to rule asmara must be dreaming the Eritrean people made their state and now run it forever so this cannot be reduced to political affiliation but national interest ....Amhara and Eritrea peace is a good thing. Who doesn't love peace?

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by eden » 24 Nov 2022, 07:08

Noble Amhara wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 22:09
Edu

To be honest Fano sees Shabia as a stabilizing force of the Red Sea-Mereb Melash .
Shaebia is non existent entity. We have HGDEF for decades now. Where you been Noble? Do you have honest opinion about the issue of freedom seeker allying with freedom snatcher? Why do some freedom fighters even begin to think to work with an entity that is perpetrating on people same crimes against which the freedom fighters are fighting? Address that!

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Follower » 24 Nov 2022, 08:25

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eden wrote:
11 Aug 2022, 04:44
Jaegol wrote:
10 Aug 2022, 22:11

Eritrean view on the so called negotiations between Tplf and pp

As an Agame, allow me to ask you:
Why do you expect Sisay to care about Eritrea people when it’s known he made his bed with OPDO/ PP against Ethiopia people? እንዴት ነው የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብን ባደባባይ የሸጠን ኢትዮጵያዊ ስለሌላው ቅን ያስባል ብለህ የምታስበው?
Mind you dead Tplf funeral. ወያል ዓጋመ.

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Sadacha Macca » 24 Nov 2022, 08:30

Even if those two groups united just to counter a common foe, the TPLF, that'd be sufficient.
Amara's won't comment on Eritreans internal affairs because it's not in their interests, and let's be honest, Eritrea did a significant part if not the most, of the fighting in the war against the TPLF.

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by sarcasm » 24 Nov 2022, 08:39

Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:30
and let's be honest, Eritrea did a significant part if not the most, of the fighting in the war against the TPLF.
How many Eritreans have died in this war? 50,000? 90,000? 130,000? How many more Eritreans have died in Ethiopian internal civil war? What did Eritrea get in return of the 100,0000+ died and injured in the war? A TPLF that is going be baptized as a legal party in Addis Ababa?

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Sadacha Macca » 24 Nov 2022, 10:12

Their enemy that wanted to dismantle Eritrea, surrendered and is no longer a threat. But time shall tell if they try again. Their security interests obligated them to get involved, that is clear as a sunny day in Texas.
Not absolving any side of war crimes because wrong is wrong regardless of which sides soldiers or people were the perpetrators. But Eritrea knew they had to get involved. I'm sure that, if they get involved on TPLFs side, that you'd be happy and not complaining about their involvement. I'm sure that you'd be doing the gobez teawet tegadalay circle dance out of joy, in fact.
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Where's your proof that TPLF will be a legal party in Addis?

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Abere » 24 Nov 2022, 13:17

eden,

I think what you indirectly addressing is the alliance between Amhara and Eritrea. There is no doubt that the alliance between Amhara and Eritrea is natural; and this alliance is the only anchoring of peace and stability in the horn of Africa. Any foreign adversary forces historically in the horn Africa targets Amhara and Eritrea. And the reason is simple and clear, these two population are very decisive to cut the aspiration of foreign aggressor. I am not going in detail to mention of historical accounts or evidences. Colonialist use the divide and conquer tactics for they knew without doing so the could not get a bite. Amhara and Eritrea have a clear geographical natural demarcation but have a strong intrinsic and natural relation. Their alliance is so natural and intrinsic, it is not just political alone. They have common stake in the region. Their alliance is here to stay forever. If you have problem with Eritrea, that should be yours and yours only not for the Amhara people. Amhara and Eritrea does not have a bone to fight over, but have common mutual interest for development such as developing infrastructure such rail roads via Humera and Metema, etc.



eden wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 21:55
Historical FANO is self sustaining freedom fighter that is by the people for the people.

HGDEF is a clique that’s managed to decimate an entire generation. Systems of education, healthcare, justice, economy etc etc are non existent under HGDEF. As such, it’s the polar opposite of freedom fighter: It’s freedom snatcher! It jails, tortures and kills with impunity, destroying families in the process. It enslaves the population and we all know this from our families back home and from our activists.

I don’t see FANO as partner of HGDEF. FANO is people based or, at least, it’s supposed to aspire to pursue the interest of the people. As such its allies or partners should be similar groups from other communities, not the tormentors of other communities.

Feel free to reflect or react, add or subtract

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Asmara » 24 Nov 2022, 13:33

sarcasm wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:39
Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:30
and let's be honest, Eritrea did a significant part if not the most, of the fighting in the war against the TPLF.
How many Eritreans have died in this war? 50,000? 90,000? 130,000? How many more Eritreans have died in Ethiopian internal civil war? What did Eritrea get in return of the 100,0000+ died and injured in the war? A TPLF that is going be baptized as a legal party in Addis Ababa?
For any army to lose 50,000 or 100,000 or even 1 million combatants within 2 years, its commanders must have been using WW1 human wave style. You know and everyone knows who uses that cruel warfare.

As for what Eritrea got out of TPLF's defeat, well Eritreans don't have to worry anymore about an invading army on their doorsteps that constantly threatens their security and territorial integrity. You said TPLF would be baptised as a legal party in Ethiopia... who cares? It can be reborn as a pentecostal party or Albanian type party, it has no bearing on Eritrea.

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by kerenite » 24 Nov 2022, 14:39

sarcasm wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:39
Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:30
and let's be honest, Eritrea did a significant part if not the most, of the fighting in the war against the TPLF.
How many Eritreans have died in this war? 50,000? 90,000? 130,000? How many more Eritreans have died in Ethiopian internal civil war? What did Eritrea get in return of the 100,0000+ died and injured in the war? A TPLF that is going be baptized as a legal party in Addis Ababa?
It is bitter to swallow, I wholeheartedly concur with such assertion. We have lost thousands of our best youth in an ugly ethio civil war which we eris have nothing to do with it and at the end we gained or achieved nada.. Zero.. Nothing. OK, we achieved something of paramount importance, our remaining conscripted troops will return back home to eritrea safely.

After all, our conscripted youth were sent to tigray to save the 7th king aka abi.

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by nizzy » 24 Nov 2022, 16:36

Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 10:12
Their enemy that wanted to dismantle Eritrea, surrendered and is no longer a threat. But time shall tell if they try again. Their security interests obligated them to get involved, that is clear as a sunny day in Texas.
Not absolving any side of war crimes because wrong is wrong regardless of which sides soldiers or people were the perpetrators. But Eritrea knew they had to get involved. I'm sure that, if they get involved on TPLFs side, that you'd be happy and not complaining about their involvement. I'm sure that you'd be doing the gobez teawet tegadalay circle dance out of joy, in fact.
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Where's your proof that TPLF will be a legal party in Addis?
Asmara wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 13:33
sarcasm wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:39
Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:30
and let's be honest, Eritrea did a significant part if not the most, of the fighting in the war against the TPLF.
How many Eritreans have died in this war? 50,000? 90,000? 130,000? How many more Eritreans have died in Ethiopian internal civil war? What did Eritrea get in return of the 100,0000+ died and injured in the war? A TPLF that is going be baptized as a legal party in Addis Ababa?
For any army to lose 50,000 or 100,000 or even 1 million combatants within 2 years, its commanders must have been using WW1 human wave style. You know and everyone knows who uses that cruel warfare.

As for what Eritrea got out of TPLF's defeat, well Eritreans don't have to worry anymore about an invading army on their doorsteps that constantly threatens their security and territorial integrity. You said TPLF would be baptised as a legal party in Ethiopia... who cares? It can be reborn as a pentecostal party or Albanian type party, it has no bearing on Eritrea.
Sadacha and Asmara have it right. It is amazing to me how difficult it is for people to understand these very simple facts. TPLF by their actions was a self admitted existential threat to Eritrea. They could not let go of their dismantle Eritrea, greater Tigray, Tigray-Tigrini, break their back, occupy Eritrean land, no peace no war, and the other endless idiotic projects these past 20 years. They made it very clear to Eritreans that they are an existential threat. Anyone not blinded by woyane propaganda or just silly old hatred of sheabia can see this as clear as day.

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Hawzen » 24 Nov 2022, 20:55

Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 10:12
Their enemy that wanted to dismantle Eritrea, surrendered and is no longer a threat. But time shall tell if they try again. Their security interests obligated them to get involved, that is clear as a sunny day in Texas.
Not absolving any side of war crimes because wrong is wrong regardless of which sides soldiers or people were the perpetrators. But Eritrea knew they had to get involved. I'm sure that, if they get involved on TPLFs side, that you'd be happy and not complaining about their involvement. I'm sure that you'd be doing the gobez teawet tegadalay circle dance out of joy, in fact.
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Where's your proof that TPLF will be a legal party in Addis?


Well... the twisted heart agame understandably won't like your comments because it bitter truth to swallow for them... They wanted the people of Eritrea to stay idle and wait till the TPLF terrorist group gets back to Arat killo and reorganize itself to invade Eritrea using Ethiopian human and financial resources like they did in 1997. The fact is that they liked when Master Shabo carried the slave TPLF group all the way to Addis in 1991 but they don't like it when Eritrea and Ethiopia cooperate against their common enemy to deflo*wer TPLF...

By the way, have you heard anything from Tagay Gebre Gebretsadika aka demesesnachew these days :lol: ? I wonder how many Eritrean and Ethiopian soldiers TPLF destroyed according to his report :lol: ? More than the people of Eritrea and Ethiopia combined?

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by sarcasm » 24 Nov 2022, 21:21

sarcasm wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:39
Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 08:30
and let's be honest, Eritrea did a significant part if not the most, of the fighting in the war against the TPLF.
How many Eritreans have died in this war? 50,000? 90,000? 130,000? How many more Eritreans have died in Ethiopian internal civil war? What did Eritrea get in return of the 100,0000+ died and injured in the war? A TPLF that is going be baptized as a legal party in Addis Ababa?
Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 10:12

Where's your proof that TPLF will be a legal party in Addis?


Article 7. 2.C of the agreement says, " The federal government shall facilitate the lifting of the terrorist designation by House of Peoples Representatives."




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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Misraq » 25 Nov 2022, 02:16

Brother Eden, I know you don't believe on what you have written yourself :lol: :lol:

But since you asked reaction, here is my 2 cents ...... What we have witnessed is that HGDEf effectively twarted eminent danger to it's existence and they did that in a shear elegance and FANO Amhara found a perfect partner for future together with it's lost and stollen lands. :lol: :lol:

also it was like a music for FANO amhara to listen to Tegarus sayung "Amhara is our brother, we don't want to fight with Amhara" :lol: :lol: .

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 25 Nov 2022, 02:32

Misraq wrote:
25 Nov 2022, 02:16
Brother Eden, I know you don't believe on what you have written yourself :lol: :lol:

But since you asked reaction, here is my 2 cents ...... What we have witnessed is that HGDEf effectively twarted eminent danger to it's existence and they did that in a shear elegance and FANO Amhara found a perfect partner for future together with it's lost and stollen lands. :lol: :lol:

also it was like a music for FANO amhara to listen to Tegarus sayung "Amhara is our brother, we don't want to fight with Amhara" :lol: :lol: .
Yepp. From [ deleted ] amara to amhara are our brothers and we don't want to fight them.

The level of spiritual prostitution and Flip flapping in Tigray has no analogue in the entire Globe. What you should understand is though the following. Strength respects strength.



In regard to the gain of Eritrea in its interference in Ethiopia. It was the late professor Mesfin Weldemariam who said, the war between Eritrea and Ethiopia is like a fight between two twins att unless one of them loses, there will never be a win win solution. And true to his prophecy, the leeches had a chance to salvage every in they Lost in ethiopia by abiding to the final and binding verdict of the border Commission....yet Ego and inferior complex involved in their decision making mechanism and they went all or nothing. And they Lost every thing. And today, even if their Anglo Saxon pimps dispatch them to attack Eritrea. Their human resources is no there to pose a Threat. They might plant bombs here and there like the eritrean jihadist but we know how to deal with jihadists. 8)

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by eden » 25 Nov 2022, 12:46

Abere, Misraq

My honest view is this: saying FANO has mutual interest with HGDEF is like saying TDF has mutual interest with OPDO/ PP.

FANO and TDF have the support of their own people, Amara and (Ethio) Tigrayans respectively. On the contrary, HGDEF and OPDO/ PP are despised by their own people, (Eri) Tigrayans and Oromo respectively. It would be foolish for entities that have the backing of their people go and ally with one anothers’ oppressors.

If FANO works with HGDEF, TDF may work with OPDO/PP. How does this help the people you say you advocate for?

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Weyane.is.dead » 25 Nov 2022, 13:08

Boooohooo woooow tdf might work with opdo/pp. Your tdf is not a threat to anyone. I doubt any oromo has an appetite to work with tplf. If they do tplf will be their water carrier. The Amharas do not need anyone to lean on like parasite tplf. Same goes for us Eritreans. Simply put no one cares.
eden wrote:
25 Nov 2022, 12:46
Abere, Misraq

My honest view is this: saying FANO has mutual interest with HGDEF is like saying TDF has mutual interest with OPDO/ PP.

FANO and TDF have the support of their own people, Amara and (Ethio) Tigrayans respectively. On the contrary, HGDEF and OPDO/ PP are despised by their own people, (Eri) Tigrayans and Oromo respectively. It would be foolish for entities that have the backing of their people go and ally with one anothers’ oppressors.

If FANO works with HGDEF, TDF may work with OPDO/PP. How does this help the people you say you advocate for?

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Re: FANO strategic ally of HGDEF? Nonsensical!

Post by Noble Amhara » 25 Nov 2022, 14:14

Break ties immediately with terrorist olf or else amhara has every right to make alliance with eritrea
eden wrote:
25 Nov 2022, 12:46
Abere, Misraq

My honest view is this: saying FANO has mutual interest with HGDEF is like saying TDF has mutual interest with OPDO/ PP.

FANO and TDF have the support of their own people, Amara and (Ethio) Tigrayans respectively. On the contrary, HGDEF and OPDO/ PP are despised by their own people, (Eri) Tigrayans and Oromo respectively. It would be foolish for entities that have the backing of their people go and ally with one anothers’ oppressors.

If FANO works with HGDEF, TDF may work with OPDO/PP. How does this help the people you say you advocate for?

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