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Re: በሠለጠነ መንገድ እንወያይ : በኢሬቻ ዛፍ ለምን ቅቤ ይቀባል ?

Post by sun » 02 Oct 2022, 21:57

Nice to hear your comment even though I couldn't grasp it fully as it is in the dark. Are you saying that God created himself in the beginning to start with,Big Bang!, exactly in the image of a man and then lived on the planet for centuries alone. Then, he felt very lonely over times as being alone is very hard, one Sunny day he decided to create men, Big Bang!, in his own images of course, never to be alone any more?

Every human being can worship his or her own God in a way it fits for them without attaching any derogatory meanings to them. We humans have NO quarrels with any God in the past, at the present as well as will never have any in the future.

The only quarrels we have is with other humans whether the quarrels are justified or not and who try to use the name of God as their boxing gloves and then say "God is on their side and not on their opponent's side. :lol: :lol:

Then such fake extremist God monopolizer ignorant persons may say that it is only them who own the one and the only True God as if God has given them exlusive rights of ownership to God, in writing and stamped, while all others own the untrue and fake Gods.

Of course these is also the same as saying that only my culture and cultural values are the best of all as superior race, while the religious and cultural values of others are bad and inferior, to be dealt with, etc. This type of behavior is typically similar to fascist and Nazi behavior which in history have been leading to genocide and massacres.

Last but not least, please try not to hide behind this or that "guy" instead put your own opinion on the Table and call it a day.


THE BIBLE SAYS:

"If a person thinks that he is religious but can’t control his tongue, he is fooling himself. That person’s religion is worthless" ~James 1:26

" Those who say that they are in the light but hate other believers are still in the dark."
~John 2:9

" They claim to know God, but they deny him by what they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit to do anything good."
~Titus 1:16



Selam/ wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 23:49
Thank you, Sun. Question answered.

Some people venerate trees, stones, bodies of water while others worship owls, eagles & cows. Our Wollega brothers call this kind of practice idolatry, zoolatry or cult. Did humans create those objects & animals or they came out of thin air as a result of a Big Bang? Lol!
sun wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 22:12
Who is God? Did God create humans or Humans created God?

Selam/ wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 23:32
Sun - All good what you said. My question to you is this: do you worship God?
sun wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 21:29
Thomas H wrote:
29 Sep 2022, 07:27
እስኪ በቁም ነገር እንወያይ:: በኢሬቻ ዛፍ ለምን ቅቤ ይቀባል ? ቆሪጥ ማን ነው ? የቆሪጥ ሚና በኢሬቻ ምንድን ነው ? በሠለጠነ መንገድ ለምትወያዩ በቅድሚያ አመሰግናለሁ ::
Hmm... :P :P

Some times down here ignorant is considered as wisdom and wisdom as ignorance.

Otherwise Trees are essential parts of life. Tree symbolism plays a vital role since time immemorial. For instance, it gives nourishment, medicines that cure deadly sicknesses and are the breathing lungs of the world. Importantly, it forms home for many organisms. Likewise, trees make the environment friendly, fertile, productive and beautiful to the physical and spiritual identities. They can symbolize many things, including strength, love, peace, humble beginnings, among others. Some trees were also sacred and divine in some cultures. For instance, they would perform the rite of passage, sacrifices, and rituals under some particular trees. They believe those trees hold some supernatural power and could protect them from evil. Why not, if some people believe that dead ancestors and other dead entities can protect them from evil.

What Can I learn From Tree Symbolism
Tree symbolism in life teaches us to be patient. Look at how long a tree takes to grow, but it doesn’t give up. Also, a tree survives all the storms, and so shall we in life. We must learn to be strong and adaptive, to be self-regenerating. Indeed not every trial that comes our way will kill us, and some will only test our faith. Of importance is the ability of a tree to stand tall. This represents pride and confidence. Just like the tree, believe in yourself, continue building yourself up with new knowledge, expand your territories of experience and exercise all the freedom as egalitarian Oromos have known for centuries and rightly paying respect to the trees.

Bible Meaning of Trees
Biblically, trees have been used symbolically to represent life, healing, death, etc. For instance, Jesus Christ mentions that a tree that does not bear fruit is cut and burnt. In Christian life, you have to be productive; teaching people the word of God is like bearing spiritual fruits. Also, in the bible, trees of life represent salvation and eternal life. Another good example is where Jesus is referred to as the true vine, it means that Jesus is the connection between God and us, and we are the branches and God in the garden. These are just a few examples where trees symbolize spirituality, whether true or not.

The Symbolism Behind Trees
Trees often grow upwards above the earth’s surface. It signifies strength, growth, uniqueness, and empowerment. In life, everyone is striving to be outstanding and more significant. So be it in business, academics, and relationships. Thus this tree symbolism teaches us to continue growing, gain experience, etc. Likewise, the roots of a tree always grow deep into the water table. It accepts nourishment from far and wide. Thus, this lesson teaches humankind that you must learn to be persistent, spread your wings, and don’t be lazy in life. Besides, the roots represent the beginning; always be humble if you want to reach greater heights in life.

What Tree Symbolizes Life And Death
Trees of life is often a biblical statement that means restoration and forgiveness. The ash tree represents healing, while the Italian cypress represents mourning; it is a tree of death. The baobab tree is sacred in the African culture since it holds the spirits of the dead people. In addition, it was believed to have magical properties. The Christmas tree has a Christian significance.

Tree Symbolism and Meanings
When many people think of symbolism, they think about how animals can relate to people. For example, mother bears are just as protective as human mothers. However, it’s not just animals that have symbolism. Plants and even ideas can have their symbolism!

All the parts of the tree are essential to the plant’s symbolic meaning. The roots, trunk, branches, leaves, and fruits are all-important physically and metaphorically. Frankly, the tree adds a certain amount of symbolism to the plant. Besides, all trees have this basic symbolism in them.

The roots of a tree can represent how a person can be rooted in one spot. Trees rarely move from where you plant them. It can only move due to human activities. So the tree stands in its place globally, even if the humans around it aren’t. The trunk of the tree can symbolize all of the strength that lies within the tree. The trunk needs to hold up the weight of the tree if the plant is to survive.

Another vital part of the tree is the plant’s branches. They often symbolize family and home. Many animals make their homes in the branches of trees; bird often builds their nests in the high branches to stay away from predators. The branches also can symbolize family because of the way that humans draw out family trees. Family trees branch off into different directions, just like the physical trees. In many western societies even to today lots of lonely and depressed persons go out in to the forest and hug trees, talking to them for several hours after which time their depression may even get cured and or significantly improved.

Why not because even going to the psychiatrist paying lots of money means that the psychiatrist's role is just for listing to the problems until the patient himself/herself come to recognize the cause of own problems through own monologue in the presence of an expert. The tree can also patiently listen to your heart beats when you hug and talk to it helping find solutions to your own problems by yourself. So respect the tree as much as you respect the psychiatrist also in this particular instance.

Leaves and needles are also important. Trees with leaves can symbolize the circle of life and death rather well because of how the tree loses its leaves in the winter and grows them back in the spring. Trees with needles somewhat represent eternal life or, at least, persistence. They don’t lose their needles just because of the changing of the seasons. This can also help to symbolize the strength of the tree. Lastly, the fruit that grows on trees can represent new life and closeness to nature. Subsistence is what we can get from these fruits, and it is also what can be symbolized by these foods.

The Lucky Peach
The Chinese find the peach tree as a lucky symbol. The peach tree parts carry different symbolic meanings in Chinese culture. For instance, the wood symbolizes longevity. The petals of peach symbolize blossoming love, while the fruits represent perpetual vitality.

The Plum Tree Symbolism
The plum tree often symbolizes thriving beauty, love, and fruitfulness. Also, in Japanese culture, the plum tree is a symbol of protection from evil.

Apple Trees can provide their symbolism as well. The apple tree is terrific in many regards. It is excellent at producing fruit in many seasons, depending on what kind of apple tree. The apple tree is said to be related to the female form and everything feminine. Because of this fact, the apple tree is excellent at symbolizing motherhood, fertility, romance, and beauty.

Willow Trees also have important individual symbolism. Centuries ago, the willow tree was used in many cultures and ceremonies often held at night, relating the tree with night. Because of all of these things, the willow tree symbolizes night, imagination and mystery.

Summary:
Delving into the symbolic realm of a tree opens your mind to an endless world of exciting things about trees. Among the moral lessons from trees are living, growing, patience, perseverance, and change. Indeed, in life, tree symbols urge us never to stop growing, always stand firm, and keep aiming higher. Trees stand firm at all seasons; therefore, always stand grounded even when you are facing challenges.

So because of all these generous broad based gifts to humanity from the trees, Oromos should have rvbbed or fed bvtter to the trees even every single day, not only once a year, simply because humans exist because trees exist.

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Re: በሠለጠነ መንገድ እንወያይ : በኢሬቻ ዛፍ ለምን ቅቤ ይቀባል ?

Post by Selam/ » 03 Oct 2022, 20:22

Sun
Sure, no need to go around the bush. FYI, I don’t hide behind anyone’s statement. But since I am not raised in Oromo culture, I don’t know about the origin & background of Irreecha. So, I rely on the first-hand information provided by Oromo critics, who denounce it the same way as others who denounce the culture they grew up with.

For example, some Protestants rightly accuse orthodox Christians of worshiping icons & building structures. While it’s a legitimate criticism & those orthodox Christians who mistakenly practice idolatry should be educated, there is an explanation for the theological background. But there is nothing wrong with such criticisms. To me, they are constructive & I don’t believe the intent is to take ownership of God or create separate Gods for each culture.

So, in the same token, I was expecting from you an explanation whether you worship Irreecha in-lieu of God or Irreecha is just a practice to reflect the greatness of God. But you immediately felt offended. Why?

Having said that, I have now learnt from you that some of Irreecha followers, including yourself, are in fact against the God of monotheism. So, there is no point arguing about this topic any more. Because no one can convince you about the existence of one God. Likewise, no human being can convince me to accept multiple Gods whatsoever. But since you quoted the Bible, I want you to show me where it’s written in the scriptures about the Big Bang and which book allows every human being to worship his own God.

sun wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 21:57
Nice to hear your comment even though I couldn't grasp it fully as it is in the dark. Are you saying that God created himself in the beginning to start with,Big Bang!, exactly in the image of a man and then lived on the planet for centuries alone. Then, he felt very lonely over times as being alone is very hard, one Sunny day he decided to create men, Big Bang!, in his own images of course, never to be alone any more?

Every human being can worship his or her own God in a way it fits for them without attaching any derogatory meanings to them. We humans have NO quarrels with any God in the past, at the present as well as will never have any in the future.

The only quarrels we have is with other humans whether the quarrels are justified or not and who try to use the name of God as their boxing gloves and then say "God is on their side and not on their opponent's side. :lol: :lol:

Then such fake extremist God monopolizer ignorant persons may say that it is only them who own the one and the only True God as if God has given them exlusive rights of ownership to God, in writing and stamped, while all others own the untrue and fake Gods.

Of course these is also the same as saying that only my culture and cultural values are the best of all as superior race, while the religious and cultural values of others are bad and inferior, to be dealt with, etc. This type of behavior is typically similar to fascist and Nazi behavior which in history have been leading to genocide and massacres.

Last but not least, please try not to hide behind this or that "guy" instead put your own opinion on the Table and call it a day.


THE BIBLE SAYS:

"If a person thinks that he is religious but can’t control his tongue, he is fooling himself. That person’s religion is worthless" ~James 1:26

" Those who say that they are in the light but hate other believers are still in the dark."
~John 2:9

" They claim to know God, but they deny him by what they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit to do anything good."
~Titus 1:16



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