Mereja Forum

[Halafi Mengedi]

We are tiered of Oromo lies, stick with your true history and identity, you can grab green lands but you cannot grab history you are not part of it. There is nothing remotely Oromo to be associated with Agew, one is true native Axumite and the other is true settler who crossed Moyale in 1450 AD and breeding like dogs or hatching chicken and taking all fertile lands the way they crossed Moyale for grazing grass for their domestic animals, this is the true Oromo history. If you cannot call by your original name then you got a problem. Who are you, what is your tribe name, the Oromo name came after King Haile Selassie ousted and Derg came to power? You must have your own original name to be identified, the names in every spot of landscapes have their original names but the so-called Oromo now never had Original name but they are forcing us to adapt something they want now than who they were and they are.

[Sadacha Macca]

Agew speak a language that is classified under cushitic, so how can they not be related, even a little bit, to Oromo's and other cushitic language speaking peoples?
You seek to blame us for the war and siege on tigray, when you know very well, your own leaders did this to you. not us. They brought this upon your people by making enemies from all of their immediate and even distant neighbors. They created the same OPDO that is leading Ethiopia against tigray today, as you guys say, and their purpose was to keep oromo's in a similar situation that tigray is in today; but now it's happening to your people, which once again, is because of the tplf.

[Noble Amhara]

Do cushites even understand Agewugna? It is not related to lowlander cushitic languages rather it is Abysinnian Highlander language. Nobody classify Agewugna as "cushitic"(sudan language) language other then Wikipedia which is edited daily by lowlifes.

[ethiopian]

We are tiered of Oromo lies, stick with your true history and identity, you can grab green lands but you cannot grab history you are not part of it. There is nothing remotely Oromo to be associated with Agew, one is true native Axumite and the other is true settler who crossed Moyale in 1450 AD and breeding like dogs or hatching chicken and taking all fertile lands the way they crossed Moyale for grazing grass for their domestic animals, this is the true Oromo history. If you cannot call by your original name then you got a problem. Who are you, what is your tribe name, the Oromo name came after King Haile Selassie ousted and Derg came to power? You must have your own original name to be identified, the names in every spot of landscapes have their original names but the so-called Oromo now never had Original name but they are forcing us to adapt something they want now than who they were and they are.

as long as Oromos bulldozed Tigray and change it to a stone age as they should is what matters !!! we are now the new rulers fuckkkking agames up and down like we should

peace

[sun]

Do cushites even understand Agewugna? It is not related to lowlander cushitic languages rather it is Abysinnian Highlander language. Nobody classify Agewugna as "cushitic"(sudan language) language other then Wikipedia which is edited daily by lowlifes.

They don't have to understand each other's languages right now but yet they are from the same Cushitic roots just like the Somalis and several other Cushitic families whether they are now living in the low lands, highlands and somewhere in between. How many amharas born and grown up in Western and Easter countries speak amharic?

[Sadacha Macca]

Noble Agame is quick to come to the aid of his cyber tegadalay brother halafi--and I ain't even mad at em'.
However, everyone, including but not limited to Wikipedia, classifies the agew language under the overall cushitic language family tree.
The languages don't have to be mutually intelligible, to belong to the same family tree of languages and be related, even if it maybe distantly.

[Noble Amhara]

Cushitic means Kush Empire in North Eastern Sudan. So the term is biased. You are denying abysinnians their own identity.

Btw somali people and afar people have more Sudanese blood then anyone else in HOA they can call themselves cushites because their ancestors are from Sudan.

[sun]

The mighty Kush! The fountain and source of the original civilization and knowledge.

[Horus]

Agew speak a language that is classified under cushitic, so how can they not be related, even a little bit, to Oromo's and other cushitic language speaking peoples?
You seek to blame us for the war and siege on tigray, when you know very well, your own leaders did this to you. not us. They brought this upon your people by making enemies from all of their immediate and even distant neighbors. They created the same OPDO that is leading Ethiopia against tigray today, as you guys say, and their purpose was to keep oromo's in a similar situation that tigray is in today; but now it's happening to your people, which once again, is because of the tplf.

ሳዳቻ
ምንም ትርጉም የማይሰጥ ያልተማሩ ሰዎች ክርክር ከምታደርግ አገውኛና ኦርሞኛ ዝምድና አላቸው ካልክ ለዘመናት አይለወጡም የሚባሉትን ቃላት ወስደህ በሰረ ቃላቸው አንድ ግንድ እንዳላቸው ለምን አታሳይም ። ለመሆኑ ኩሽ ምን ማለት ነው? ካሉ በኦሮሞኛ ውስጥ ካለ ነገርን? ኩሽና ከሃም አፍ የሚለየው ምንድን ነው? በኢትዮጵያ የሃም እና የኩሽ ቋንቋ የሚናገሩት እስቲ ለይልን????????? እኔ እስከ ማያቸው ድረስ በባህል ለምሳሌ በዳንሳቸው የግቤ ሕዝብ እነወላይታን እንጂ አንድም ከኦሮም ጋር የሚያመሳስላቸው ነገር የለም ። በሌላ በኩል የኦሮሞ ዳንቸ መሳይና የኬኛ ጎሳዎችን ነው የሚመስለው ????

[Noble Amhara]

And now they are Arab Slaves and Arabs own their land unable to speak their language in their heartlands. Unable to retain their culture and pyramids from 3000 years ago

The mighty cush! Fountain and basis of the original civilization and knowledge.

[Horus]

Noble Amara
የለጠፍከው ካርታ ላይ ግርጌ ላይ ዝዋይ እንዴት ጉራጌ እንደ ሆነ ተመልከት ፣ ይህ ማፕ የተሰራው የዛይ ቋንቋ በሊጉውስቶች ካልሲፋይ ከመደረጉ በፊት ። ደሞ ትላንት ሰላምን ስነግረው እንደ ነበረ የጃንጄሮና እናሪያን ሕዝብ ተመልከት ከጉራጌ ደቡብ ። ይህን ነው ዛሬ የኦሮሞ ተስፋፊ ሊክድ የሚሞክረው

[Halafi Mengedi]

Savage animal Oromo does not have any moral ground to talk, see below your animalism???

[Sadacha Macca]

Horus not everyone speaks Amharic. Speak in English if you want an actual answer.



Halafi, you are mad, sad, and emotional over Tigrayans pitiful state. I understand. You hoped to take lands from Eritrea, Afar, Amhara and Oromo even, to build your abay Tigray, and now look at Tigray... It's actually gonna end up losing lands probably and about to get a PP government party in Tigray. Your TPLF made enemies for your people on all sides and you sit here thinking Tigray is some kind of superpower that can invade Eritrea and elsewhere to take their lands. You have your own leaders, to blame. They let their greed get the best of them and now look.
You can blame us Oromos all you want, that's up to you, but you cannot deceive yourself. You know who brought this upon Tigray and Tigrayans. It's their own actions or actions of TPLF elites for years since the 1990s.
You can overlook your heroes crimes in Oromia, Somali region and elsewhere, but others won't forget.
Now Tigray is getting what its elites did to others, done to them.


Btw there are still many Tigrayans in Oromia..if we were savages, they'd be at the very least be deported. But a lot of people blame others unfairly when things aren't going as well as they expected. I get it.

[Abere]

ኦሮሞ እና አገው የሚያገናኛቸው ኢትዮጵያዊነት ሲሆን ከዚህ ውጭ ሊያገናኛቸው የሚችል ነገር ቢኖር ምናልባት በከፊል የኦሮሞ ወረራ ቀይሮ ኦሮምኛ ተናጋሪ ሁነው የቀሩ ካሉ ወይም አገዎች ከሌላ የአማራ፤ወዘተ ጎሳዎች ተጋብተው እነኝህ ጎሳዎች በሞጋሳ ወደ ኦሮምኛ ተናጋሪነት የተቀየሩ ከሆነ እንጅ ሌላ ምንም የሚያገናኛቸው ነገር የለም። There is no connection/historical tie between Oromo and Agew. አፍቃሪ ኦሮሙማዎች ከአገዎች ላይ ሙጭጭ ያሉበት ዋና ምክንያት አገው የኢትዮጵያ ጥንታዊ ህዝብ ነው ስለሚባል እኛም አለንበት ለማለት ነው። ይህ ግን ተቀባይነት የለውም - ሀሰት ነው። የኦሮሞ ህዝብ አመጣጥ በማያሻማ ሁኔታ በታሪክ ተሰንዷል። ኦሮሞ ከዛሬ 500 አመታት በፊት ወደ ኢትዮጵያ መጣ ማለት የኦሮሞን ኢትዮጵያዊነት አይቀንሰውም። በውሸት ግን ያልሆነ ልብ ወለድ መተረክ የኦሮሞን ታሪክ ይቀንሳል - ወይም ታሪኩን ከነጭራሹ ያጠፋዋል።
የአፍቃሪ ኦሮሞ ችግር ይህ አይደለም ችግሩ በዚህ አለም በሰለጠነበት ዘመን ሌሎች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሳይ አይኖቸን ያመኛል ማለቱ ነው። ይህ እግር እና እጁ የጠፋ የኬኛ አስተሳሰብ ነው መደምሰስ ያለበት።

[Zack]

its true the gallas are not native to the horn of Africa its well documanted that the gallas have never been mentioned before the 17 century in the horn
The agew are bilen and bilen is agew and agew are related further with the beja and saho anf afar and somalis , The gallas are not part of this family the gallas came from outside but when they invaded the region they took allot of clans and conquered them and turned them into gallas but by original the gallas are not family and come from the outside this is a fact the gallas know it also The Somalis used to settle as far as south shewa in the 13 century why are they not there now any more its because of the galla invasion

Dr Zackovich

[Sadacha Macca]

As usual, I dismantle the silly hate filled comments of Agame TPLF cyber cadres and their allies, with facts.

Oh.. Oromo and Agaw have nothing to do with each other historically? Let's see.

"Oromo-Agaw relationships are strong particularly around Kelag, Debati, Zigam and Barbar. They have intertwined together through inter-marriages as well as the strong trading transactions between them. Such relationship starts from southern Gojjam up to Balaya; and today part of the Agawna speakers of this region are of Oromo origin as we have seen in the 2nd chapter.
Many Oromo groups have been settled in Acafar, Sigadi, Bure-Damot, Zigam, Balaya, Dangla and several other Agaw districts since the 16th century. The processes of intermingling continued unabated.
Early in the 18th century, some Oromo groups also participated in the Agaw expeditions against the Gumuz.
During the reign of both Iyasu the Great and Yostos, Chuhay and his son were sent on Gumuz expeditions together with Oromo strong men. Such relationships might have brought about strong Agaw-Oromo friendship and today they have very strong relationships.
Some of my informants have made it clear that they were well aware of their Oromo origin. Long centuries of inter-marriages and mutual co-existence led to complete assimilation in most parts of Agaw Meder.
They retained only some Oromo names and perhaps cultural traits as was the case among the Jaawwi in Balaya. Indeed, a majority of the population of Gojjam, including the ruling dynasty, are of Oromo origin.
As Beke stated, ''The inhabitants of Gojjam and Damot in Bruce's time, and even later, consisted, in greater part of Pagan Oromos; but these have now adopted the religion, together with the manners and customs, of the Abyssinian portion of the population.''

[Inter-ethnic Relations on a Frontier: Mätakkäl (Ethiopia), 1898-1991
By Tsega Endalew, page 107]



That's just a small sample of the relationship between these two cushitic language speaking nations. It's easy to dismantle the hate based comments you guys make against Oromos. It's too easy actually. All you guys have are insults and ethnic slurs.








Agame boy Zack, if the Oromo were strangers to the horn of Africa, we'd look different for one. Its obvious we're as indigenous to the horn as anyone else.
You as an Agame have ancestors who most likely originated in southern Arabia, who came to what is Northern Ethiopia as conquerors, then they married with the Agaw and other indigenous Ethiopian groups to make the Tigrayans. I know you fear and hate us Oromos because you know you cannot face us in physical battle in real life nor can you face us in a debate or intellectual discourse. Not to mention we are the ones who sent your TPLF uncle's back to Tigray.
You are desperate to paint the Oromo as strangers when in reality, we are related to the other cushitic speaking groups, a fact that is as commonly known as basic math like 2 plus 2 is 4; but in Agame cyber world you guys can create lies and make it facts.

[sun]

ኦሮሞ እና አገው የሚያገናኛቸው ኢትዮጵያዊነት ሲሆን ከዚህ ውጭ ሊያገናኛቸው የሚችል ነገር ቢኖር ምናልባት በከፊል የኦሮሞ ወረራ ቀይሮ ኦሮምኛ ተናጋሪ ሁነው የቀሩ ካሉ ወይም አገዎች ከሌላ የአማራ፤ወዘተ ጎሳዎች ተጋብተው እነኝህ ጎሳዎች በሞጋሳ ወደ ኦሮምኛ ተናጋሪነት የተቀየሩ ከሆነ እንጅ ሌላ ምንም የሚያገናኛቸው ነገር የለም። There is no connection/historical tie between Oromo and Agew. አፍቃሪ ኦሮሙማዎች ከአገዎች ላይ ሙጭጭ ያሉበት ዋና ምክንያት አገው የኢትዮጵያ ጥንታዊ ህዝብ ነው ስለሚባል እኛም አለንበት ለማለት ነው። ይህ ግን ተቀባይነት የለውም - ሀሰት ነው። የኦሮሞ ህዝብ አመጣጥ በማያሻማ ሁኔታ በታሪክ ተሰንዷል። ኦሮሞ ከዛሬ 500 አመታት በፊት ወደ ኢትዮጵያ መጣ ማለት የኦሮሞን ኢትዮጵያዊነት አይቀንሰውም። በውሸት ግን ያልሆነ ልብ ወለድ መተረክ የኦሮሞን ታሪክ ይቀንሳል - ወይም ታሪኩን ከነጭራሹ ያጠፋዋል።
የአፍቃሪ ኦሮሞ ችግር ይህ አይደለም ችግሩ በዚህ አለም በሰለጠነበት ዘመን ሌሎች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሳይ አይኖቸን ያመኛል ማለቱ ነው። ይህ እግር እና እጁ የጠፋ የኬኛ አስተሳሰብ ነው መደምሰስ ያለበት።

Before any of your paranoid sick fantasies come true the Pigs must be able to fly! Okay? Okay!!

[sun]

its true the gallas are not native to the horn of Africa its well documanted that the gallas have never been mentioned before the 17 century in the horn
The agew are bilen and bilen is agew and agew are related further with the beja and saho anf afar and somalis , The gallas are not part of this family the gallas came from outside but when they invaded the region they took allot of clans and conquered them and turned them into gallas but by original the gallas are not family and come from the outside this is a fact the gallas know it also The Somalis used to settle as far as south shewa in the 13 century why are they not there now any more its because of the galla invasion

Dr Zackovich

So, you mean that they captured invaders, softened and educated them, made Love Not War and then they became egalitarian and democratic just like Oromos. That might be true even though your ignorance is earth shaking! Have you gone so old and became demented like the dying old rats?

[sun]

Cushitic means Kush Empire in North Eastern Sudan. So the term is biased. You are denying abysinnians their own identity.
[/image]

Correction to some misunderstandings. The term is NOT biased at all as you stated because it is a name given to that empire from the classical times to the present.

Also it is NOT at all denying abyssinians their identity because it is natural for the cushtics to have their identities as well for the abyssinians to have their identities in the same way that thousands of national and cultural groups on this planet do have and can have their identities freely. What makes it look like biased is your way of looking at it in biased way or distorted way.

The best and correct healthy approach according to the cultural anthropologists and real life practices is to acknowledge, accept and celebrate your own identities as well as well as acknowledge, accept and celebrate other's identities.

That is like saying, "I AM OK, YOU ARE ALSO OK." On the contrary, if your approach is only acknowledging, accepting and celebrating your identities and values alone but ridiculing,diminishing and denying other's identities and values, then you are being biased and looking for troubles.