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Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Ghenna

Post by sarcasm » 23 Sep 2022, 19:02

Government Accountability Has Been Long Gone in Ethiopia
By Kebour Ghenna


What we are seeing unfolding before our very eyes is the epic failure of leadership in Ethiopia. Today, I will limit my reflection to the Tigray crisis.

Yes, it is self-evident that Ethiopia 'lost' Tigray under the tenure of the Abye Government. Indeed, it is indisputable that Dr. Abye Ahmed is a defeated Prime Minister.


To date, not a single official conceded its faults, nor accepted a degree of responsibility. To Ethiopia’s top leaders, accountability remains an alien concept.

This is the normalization of failures, an obvious phenomenon in the institutional and bureaucratic behavior of our country’s state system. Failure, of course, achieves such normalization due to one singular phenomenon: the absence of accountability.

Ethiopia’s system of accountability has hardly kept up with the realities of modern government. It (the concept of accountability) has been a subject of collective mockery, one which the corrupt elite laughed at, the government cronies took pride in avoiding, and the country’s state infrastructure abused in its selective enforcement. Accountability was for suckers: only the “small fishes" get caught or cannot find a way to bribe and cheat their way out. In essence, escaping accountability for failure became ingrained in Ethiopia’s socio-political culture.

But let me ask this question: shouldn’t Ethiopians deserve a historical record of the failure of the Government? Shouldn’t the response of this government, say, to the Tigray fiasco be researched, investigated, and written so there is a definitive and authoritative record. When such failure in government leads to thousands of death and displacement of Ethiopians in less than a year, shouldn’t there be a record of what occurred, who made critical decisions, how the Prime Minister’s office limited or otherwise interacted with the bureaucracy, and how military or other agencies and their leaders acted.
Shouldn’t our citizens demand transparency and answers? Shouldn’t they demand the establishment of an independent commission (by the new Parliament), composed of lawyers, legislative members, academia, government agencies, and leaders from relevant opposition parties, to go over the facts and determine who is most likely negligent for the dire consequences of the war. There should be no room for alternative facts.

Responsibility, in the end, must be taken by someone – some identifiable person must be held to account. Is there someone willing to accept that accountability today? Where exactly does the buck stop, or does it ever stop?

Ethiopia, we have a problem. We must all work to fix this: Holding political leaders accountable.
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Re: Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Gh

Post by Right » 24 Sep 2022, 08:43

Sarc,
KG is absolutely right the Tigrai war was mishandled. But not the way you think.
TPLF must be eradicated.
Man, come down to earth, drop group identification. What should be on the table is a universally accepted constitution that embrace’s individual freedom of rights. Above race, colour, gender, origin and collective identification. That override everything mentioned above to put the country on the right direction.
Stop this crap as Tigrie, Amhara, Oromo etc. and then Menzie, Gojjamie, Adwa etc. recognize the fact that human and its individual right comes first.
That is the way to progress and prosperity.

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Re: Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Gh

Post by sarcasm » 24 Sep 2022, 10:20

Right wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 08:43
Sarc,
KG is absolutely right the Tigrai war was mishandled. But not the way you think.
TPLF must be eradicated.
Man, come down to earth, drop group identification. What should be on the table is a universally accepted constitution that embrace’s individual freedom of rights. Above race, colour, gender, origin and collective identification. That override everything mentioned above to put the country on the right direction.
Stop this crap as Tigrie, Amhara, Oromo etc. and then Menzie, Gojjamie, Adwa etc. recognize the fact that human and its individual right comes first.
That is the way to progress and prosperity.
Universally accepted means something that is accepted by everyone with no disagreement. You cannot have a universally accepted constitution when you are trying to eradicate one section, notwithstanding the impossibility. What you will have is a constitution for one section only. To have a universally accepted constitution, the eradication game has to stop.

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Re: Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Gh

Post by Abere » 24 Sep 2022, 10:29

I would rather restore the Solomonic Dynasty rather than the Dedebit Evil Constitution. በሰው [ deleted ] ከምትቀና በእራስህ ኩራ:: All these old politicians are confused people that brought curse upon the country. Millions died and displaced because of them. የአገሩን ሰርዶ በአገሩ በሬ እንጅ የማንንም ቅራቅንቦ እየጠቃቀሱ ችግር መግባት ጥፋት ነው።

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Re: Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Gh

Post by Right » 24 Sep 2022, 13:08

Sarc,
OK, will you agree with the idea of individual freedom should come before group right and all categories of identification? In the eyes of the law - groups, race, the colour of skin, language, origin are all irrelevant.

You are from a minority ethnic group and you should be advocating for individual right. I don’t get it.
This is a privilege that you happily enjoy in America.
In Ethiopia, surprisingly, it is the smaller ethnic groups that demand group right. Very strange.

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Re: Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Gh

Post by sarcasm » 24 Sep 2022, 21:05

Right wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 13:08
Sarc,
OK, will you agree with the idea of individual freedom should come before group right and all categories of identification?
If you don't respect individual rights, it is impossible to respect group rights. I don't think anyone has any doubt on this. If people are unable to assert or ensure their individual rights, then they are unable to determine their collective rights and future. Both rights are connected, they don't have a mutually exclusive relationship.

I assume you are referring to the infringement of individual and group rights of Amhara people in BG, Southern and Oromia regions. TPLF's EPRDF failed in many things, but it has definitely ensured Amhara people individual and group rights in BG, Southern and Oromia regions. Today, in Oromara Ethiopia they are getting killed on a daily basis. The onus on ensuring their individual and group rights falls on Oromara.

it seems you are confusing smaller nation's demand for self-rule as opposing individual rights. Self-rule is not against respecting individual rights. It is actually the ultimate affirmation of individual right. I will right more on this subject some other day.

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Re: Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Gh

Post by Facts » 25 Sep 2022, 05:40

Abiy put an end to 7% ethnic minority rule. TPLF were insane to think it can last indefinitely.
sarcasm wrote:
23 Sep 2022, 19:02
Government Accountability Has Been Long Gone in Ethiopia
By Kebour Ghenna


What we are seeing unfolding before our very eyes is the epic failure of leadership in Ethiopia. Today, I will limit my reflection to the Tigray crisis.

Yes, it is self-evident that Ethiopia 'lost' Tigray under the tenure of the Abye Government. Indeed, it is indisputable that Dr. Abye Ahmed is a defeated Prime Minister.


To date, not a single official conceded its faults, nor accepted a degree of responsibility. To Ethiopia’s top leaders, accountability remains an alien concept.

This is the normalization of failures, an obvious phenomenon in the institutional and bureaucratic behavior of our country’s state system. Failure, of course, achieves such normalization due to one singular phenomenon: the absence of accountability.

Ethiopia’s system of accountability has hardly kept up with the realities of modern government. It (the concept of accountability) has been a subject of collective mockery, one which the corrupt elite laughed at, the government cronies took pride in avoiding, and the country’s state infrastructure abused in its selective enforcement. Accountability was for suckers: only the “small fishes" get caught or cannot find a way to bribe and cheat their way out. In essence, escaping accountability for failure became ingrained in Ethiopia’s socio-political culture.

But let me ask this question: shouldn’t Ethiopians deserve a historical record of the failure of the Government? Shouldn’t the response of this government, say, to the Tigray fiasco be researched, investigated, and written so there is a definitive and authoritative record. When such failure in government leads to thousands of death and displacement of Ethiopians in less than a year, shouldn’t there be a record of what occurred, who made critical decisions, how the Prime Minister’s office limited or otherwise interacted with the bureaucracy, and how military or other agencies and their leaders acted.
Shouldn’t our citizens demand transparency and answers? Shouldn’t they demand the establishment of an independent commission (by the new Parliament), composed of lawyers, legislative members, academia, government agencies, and leaders from relevant opposition parties, to go over the facts and determine who is most likely negligent for the dire consequences of the war. There should be no room for alternative facts.

Responsibility, in the end, must be taken by someone – some identifiable person must be held to account. Is there someone willing to accept that accountability today? Where exactly does the buck stop, or does it ever stop?

Ethiopia, we have a problem. We must all work to fix this: Holding political leaders accountable.
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Re: Yes, Ethiopia lost Tigray under the tenure of Abye Gov. It is indisputable that Dr Abye is a defeated PM - Kebour Gh

Post by sarcasm » 25 Sep 2022, 07:53

Abere wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 10:29
I would rather restore the Solomonic Dynasty rather than the Dedebit Evil Constitution. በሰው [ deleted ] ከምትቀና በእራስህ ኩራ:: All these old politicians are confused people that brought curse upon the country. Millions died and displaced because of them. የአገሩን ሰርዶ በአገሩ በሬ እንጅ የማንንም ቅራቅንቦ እየጠቃቀሱ ችግር መግባት ጥፋት ነው።
The Neguse Negest system that enabled the Solomonic Dynasty rule for centuries is an organic federalist system devised by Ancient Tigrayans. The core foundations of the system are respect for autonomy, self-rule and differences. Hence, the Abyssinia / Ethiopian Empire has always been a federalist arrangement.

The Neguse Negest system is a federalist system where the Neguses have autonomy on their territories and pay taxes to the Neguse Negest (federal government). The Neguse Negest looks after common defense and international relations. Actually, it looks like it was HSI who ended the federalist system when he fired the Neguses but still kept the Neguse Negest title. He introduced a centralized state system into a country that has always been a federalist structure. Mengistu continued the madness of unitary state which resulted in Eritrea's independence.

The Isaias, Abiy & Amhara Elite alliance have plunged the country into another bloody war after 30 year in order to re-install a centralized / unitary state system and end the existing Constitutional Federalism. Tigray has single-handedly defeated the Isaias, Abiy & Amhara Elite alliance and forced PM Abiy & his PP to commit to keep Constitutional Federalism.

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