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Re: በማን አለብኝነት ያሰረውን ዘመነ ካሴን በአስቸኳይ መንግስት መፍታት አለበት። ይህ ያላዋቂ የዕብሪተኝነት ተግባር አሁን ባለው ጦርነት ላይ አሉታዊ ተፅእኖ በእጅጉ ይፈጥራል።

Post by gagi » 23 Sep 2022, 18:18

Who would waste time watching your crap!

Did you say, OLF cadre? I did not want to say it. But I should- You have no idea how a close relative Zemene Kasse is to me.

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Re: በማን አለብኝነት ያሰረውን ዘመነ ካሴን በአስቸኳይ መንግስት መፍታት አለበት። ይህ ያላዋቂ የዕብሪተኝነት ተግባር አሁን ባለው ጦርነት ላይ አሉታዊ ተፅእኖ በእጅጉ ይፈጥራል።

Post by Selam/ » 23 Sep 2022, 18:30

“…በኔ ግምት TPLF የመጨረሻውን ትንፋሽ እስኪተነፍስ ብዙ የ TPLF ካድሬዎች ለተወሰኑ ዐማሮች "ፍቅር" ይቸራሉ ብየ እገምታለሁ።”

ፍቅር? Are you for real?
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 15:47
እኔ ስለግለሰቡ ብዙም አላውቅም። ስለዚህም ስለእስሩ የራሴን ግንዛቤ መፍጠር አልችልም። ግን የቀድሞ አንዳንድ ሁኔታዎችን ማገናዘብ አስፈላጊ ነው ብየ አምናለሁ። በጎንደርና በጎጃም ዐማሮች መሀል ልዩነት እንዳለ ጎንደሬዎች ሃላቀሮች ጎጃሜዎች ተራማጆች እንደሆኑ አቢይ ስልጣን ላይ ከወጣ ጀምሮ የTPLF ካድሪዎች ሲሰብኩን ነበር። ብዙ መረጃ ER ላይ አለ። TPLF ስልጣን ላይ በነበረበት ግዜ በአማራዎች መሀል ልዩነት አለ የሚል አንድ አረፍተነገር ከ TPLF መስማት አይቻልም ነበር። አይገመትምም። ዐማሮችን እንደአንድ የፋብሪካ ምርት አደርጎ መውሰዱ ለትራይባል ፓለቲክስ መተንፈሻ ሆኖ አገልግሏል።
እኔ አሁን ሁኔታዎችን ወደሗላ አርቄ እንዳስብ ያስገደደኝ በዚህ ዜና ከሑሉም ይልቅ የፈነደቁት የ TPLF ካድሬዎች መሆናቸው ነው። የእነሱ TPLFን ለሚጠላ የአማራ ታጋይ መታሰር ምክንያት እንቅልፍ ማጣት ስለሁኔታው እንድናስብ ያስገድዳል።
በነገራችን ላይ ግለሰብ ማምለክ በዚህ ዘመን ሃላቀርነት ነው። የእሱ ፍላጎት የሙሉ አማራ ፍላጎት ነው ብሎ ማሰብ አያዋጣም።
በኔ ግምት TPLF የመጨረሻውን ትንፋሽ እስኪተነፍስ ብዙ የ TPLF ካድሬዎች ለተወሰኑ ዐማሮች "ፍቅር" ይቸራሉ ብየ እገምታለሁ።

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Re: በማን አለብኝነት ያሰረውን ዘመነ ካሴን በአስቸኳይ መንግስት መፍታት አለበት። ይህ ያላዋቂ የዕብሪተኝነት ተግባር አሁን ባለው ጦርነት ላይ አሉታዊ ተፅእኖ በእጅጉ ይፈጥራል።

Post by Selam/ » 23 Sep 2022, 18:37

I have heard that story before but I don’t accept anything at face value these days. I need good evidence to be convinced and jump on or off the wagon.

gagi wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 23:40
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 14:51
gagi wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:30
The arrest of this hooligan is appropriate.

There will be no impact on the ongoing war with the TPLF traitors. If at all this arrest has any significance, it will be its positive impact by motivating and vindicating the genuine FANOs who are currently making enormous sacrifice and who knew this አውደልዳይ is profiting in their name!
What is exactly the crime committed by Fano Zemene Kassie? How many children has he killed? How many Cities has he burned? how many innocent mothers has he behea**ded? I know being Amhara and standing to defend the Amhara people and interests is a crime in that country.
Zemene joined Ginbot 7 in Eritrea. It did not take him long when he got into conflict with the leadership and then left the movement and hid somewhere in Europe until the change.

Then he entered Ethiopia became close to the new Amhara Region leadership. He was one of the extremist elements who pressured General Asamnew Tsigie to take radical measures. He was behind the aassasination of Dr. Ambachew and the two other officials. Then he went in hiding. He emerged when the war broke. He was left alone by Government. But he could not resist the opportunity created for him. He started to compete with Fano. His ambition has always been to become popular, , the king or kingmaker of the region. He literally became a warlord who roams around the Amhara region collecting taxes in the name of supporting his wing of Fano,…..He is a narcissist who is hungry for fame and money. He is a destructive element and a danger to the future of Amhara. Better to lock him up.

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Re: በማን አለብኝነት ያሰረውን ዘመነ ካሴን በአስቸኳይ መንግስት መፍታት አለበት። ይህ ያላዋቂ የዕብሪተኝነት ተግባር አሁን ባለው ጦርነት ላይ አሉታዊ ተፅእኖ በእጅጉ ይፈጥራል።

Post by Abere » 23 Sep 2022, 19:51

---እነኝህ ሁለቱ እራሳቸውን በንጽህና ለኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ መስዋዕትነት ያቀረቡ መሆናቸውን አምናለሁ። በእኔ ግንዛቤ

1ኛ) እስክንድር ነጋ
2ኛ) ዘመነ ካሴ

--- እነኝህ ንጹህ ዜጎች በገንዘብ ያናጠጡ ሃብታም ለመሆን ሲችሉ ፤ በስልጣን ደግሞ ከፍተኛ ወንበር ለመወጣት በቀላሉ ከማንም በላይ የሚችሉ ነበሩ። ግን ንጹህ ሰው ከንቱ ስፍራ መዋልን እጅግ ይጸየፋል። ስለሆነም ከወንጀል እድፋሞቹ ወያኔ ይሁን ኦነግ-ብልጽግና እራሳቸውን ማራቅ ብቻ ሳይሆን የለኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ነጻነት እራሳቸውን የመስዋዕት በግ አድርገው በትህትና እና በንጽህና የቀረቡ ዘመን ያፈራቸው ጀግና አርበኞች ናቸው።

--- እንደዚህ አይነት ንጹህ አርበኞች የሚኮንኑ ወይም የሚወነጅሉ ጥቁር ነፍስ ወይም ነፍስያቸው ጨለማ የዋጠው ሰዎች ብቻ ናቸው።፡

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Re: በማን አለብኝነት ያሰረውን ዘመነ ካሴን በአስቸኳይ መንግስት መፍታት አለበት። ይህ ያላዋቂ የዕብሪተኝነት ተግባር አሁን ባለው ጦርነት ላይ አሉታዊ ተፅእኖ በእጅጉ ይፈጥራል።

Post by Right » 23 Sep 2022, 21:42

You can’t reason out or have any kind of discussion with these brick heads.

Organize silently and f….k them up. And civilize them to work and live peacefully. Believe me fighting with the Oromos is like playing with a child.

Abiye is looking for a stick in his behind like Gaddafi.

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Re: በማን አለብኝነት ያሰረውን ዘመነ ካሴን በአስቸኳይ መንግስት መፍታት አለበት። ይህ ያላዋቂ የዕብሪተኝነት ተግባር አሁን ባለው ጦርነት ላይ አሉታዊ ተፅእኖ በእጅጉ ይፈጥራል።

Post by ethiopianunity » 24 Sep 2022, 16:54

Abere wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 16:56
ፍጹም እውነትን የሚያውቅ ሁሉ በእጁ የሆነው አልፋ እና ኦሜጋ እግዚአብሄር ብቻ ነው።

እውነት አንጻራዊ ነው። ዘመነ ካሴ ሰው እንጅ መልዐክ አይደለም። እኔ በአካል አላውቀም የቆመለት ሃሳብ ግን ህዝባዊ ነው። ሚልዮኖች ይከተሉታል። ይህ ማለት ደግሞ ህዝብ ፈረደ እግዜር ፈረደ ነው። እንደ እኔ እንድህ እንቅልፍ ነስቶ የአገር ሃብት እና የመከላከያ ሰራዊት ህይወት ከወራት በላይ መስዋዕት የሚያስከፍል ወንጀል ሰርቷል ለማለት አልችልም። ይህን ሰው ማሰር ግፍ ነው። ለዚያውም ና! እንታረቅ ብሎ ጠርቶ ማፈን ተራ ሽፍታ እንኳን አያደርገውም። አሁን ያለው የአገሪቱ መንግስት የቱን ያህል ከዱርዬ በታች በወረደ ሁኔታ እንደሚያስብ ነው የሚያሳየው። የብልጽግና ኦነግ መምግስት ቀይዋን ጥቁሯን አይነት የካርታ ቁማር ጨዋታ ነው የያዘው። ይህ እራሱን ይጎዳዋል። እንደ እኔ ዘመነን መልቀቅ አለባቸው ባይነኝ - ሞኝ አማካሪ ነው እንድታሰር ያደረገው።


ethiopianunity wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 15:51
Abere,

Why do you believe 100% that Zemene is clean?
As you know, in divided Ethiopia, it is hard to find that which news are real. What is worse is that through misinformation from media, you can be persuaded falsely to support or oppose individuals, policies, etc. It is dangerous such situations for Ethiopia when populations are confused who and what to support. So a while ago l saw 2 opposing media, one that supports Zemene, the other that opposes Zemene. One media showed, Zemene came to be hero out of no where and was in Eritrea, fighting Tplf and came out to oppose Ginbot7. If both Ginbot 7 and Zemene are fighting for Ethiopia's cause, why did Zemene accuse Hinbot 7 or vice versa? Here is hard to know why if Zemene and both were fighting Tplf in Eritrea ( have you seen any Ethiopian fighters succeeding against Tplf in Eritrea, except Olf who is now in Ethiopia and controlling it, and Tplf who took over Ethiopia for 27 years, but never Ethiopian fighters?) So, segment of population believed Zemene and began to oppose Ginbot 7 there was a story about betrayal, etc. Something obviously wrong happened in Eritrea. We know that Eritrea is the factory for anti Ethiopia fighters. Just recently, Eritrea was training All Shabab fighters in Eritrea and packed them back to Somalia, and now, Al shabab is threatening Ethiopia.

Back to Zemene, people supported Ginbot 7 before Tplf was ousted but not after the incident in Eritrea. I bet you, just like Tplf and Olf, Eritrea was creating another ethnic factory called maybe, Alf Amara Liberation Front. You must see the pattern here after formation of Olf and Tplf. So, it is hard to know in reality, ethnic group formation and fight for control in Addis will tear Ethiopia apart, that is the bitter truth
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Re: በማን አለብኝነት ያሰረውን ዘመነ ካሴን በአስቸኳይ መንግስት መፍታት አለበት። ይህ ያላዋቂ የዕብሪተኝነት ተግባር አሁን ባለው ጦርነት ላይ አሉታዊ ተፅእኖ በእጅጉ ይፈጥራል።

Post by Selam/ » 24 Sep 2022, 17:06

My answer is simple - listen to both sides of the story before you endorse any rumor or report. If you have time, research & get to the bottom of the matter without being swayed by sensational and tragic stories. One doesn’t necessarily need to side with one or the other party although these days most people don’t have any appetite for a non-partisan and non-tribal opinions.

ethiopianunity wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 16:54
Abere wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 16:56
ፍጹም እውነትን የሚያውቅ ሁሉ በእጁ የሆነው አልፋ እና ኦሜጋ እግዚአብሄር ብቻ ነው።

እውነት አንጻራዊ ነው። ዘመነ ካሴ ሰው እንጅ መልዐክ አይደለም። እኔ በአካል አላውቀም የቆመለት ሃሳብ ግን ህዝባዊ ነው። ሚልዮኖች ይከተሉታል። ይህ ማለት ደግሞ ህዝብ ፈረደ እግዜር ፈረደ ነው። እንደ እኔ እንድህ እንቅልፍ ነስቶ የአገር ሃብት እና የመከላከያ ሰራዊት ህይወት ከወራት በላይ መስዋዕት የሚያስከፍል ወንጀል ሰርቷል ለማለት አልችልም። ይህን ሰው ማሰር ግፍ ነው። ለዚያውም ና! እንታረቅ ብሎ ጠርቶ ማፈን ተራ ሽፍታ እንኳን አያደርገውም። አሁን ያለው የአገሪቱ መንግስት የቱን ያህል ከዱርዬ በታች በወረደ ሁኔታ እንደሚያስብ ነው የሚያሳየው። የብልጽግና ኦነግ መምግስት ቀይዋን ጥቁሯን አይነት የካርታ ቁማር ጨዋታ ነው የያዘው። ይህ እራሱን ይጎዳዋል። እንደ እኔ ዘመነን መልቀቅ አለባቸው ባይነኝ - ሞኝ አማካሪ ነው እንድታሰር ያደረገው።


ethiopianunity wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 15:51
Abere,

Why do you believe 100% that Zemene is clean?
As you know, in divided Ethiopia, it is hard to find that which news are real. What is worse is that through misinformation from media, you can be persuaded falsely to support or oppose individuals, policies, etc. It is dangerous such situations for Ethiopia when populations are confused who and what to support. So a while ago l saw 2 opposing media, one that supports Zemene, the other that opposes Zemene. One media showed, Zemene came to be hero out of no where and was in Eritrea, fighting Tplf and came out to oppose Ginbot7. If both Ginbot 7 and Zemene are fighting for Ethiopia's cause, why did Zemene accuse Hinbot 7 or vice versa? Here is hard to know why if Zemene and both were fighting Tplf in Eritrea ( have you seen any Ethiopian fighters succeeding against Tplf in Eritrea, except Olf who is now in Ethiopia and controlling it, and Tplf who took over Ethiopia gor 27 years, but never Ethiopian fighters?) So, segment of population just before Tplf believed Zemene and began to oppose Ginbot 7 there was a story anout betraual, etc. Something obviously wrong happened in Eritrea. We know that Eritrea is the factory for anti Ethiopia fighters. Just recently, Eritrea was training All Shabab fighters in Eritrea and packed them back to Somalia, and now, All Shaba is threatening Ethiopia. Back to Zemene, people supported Ginbot 7 before Tplf was ousted but not after the incident in Eritrea. I bet you, just like Tplf and Olf, Eritrea was creating another ethnic factory called maybe, Alf Amara Liberation Front. You must see the pattern here after formation of Olf. and Tplf. So, it is hard to know in reality, ethnic group formation and fight for control in Addis is and will Ethiopia apart.

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Post by ethiopianunity » 24 Sep 2022, 17:20

Selam/ wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 17:06
My answer is simple - listen to both sides of the story before you endorse any rumor or report. If you have time, research & get to the bottom of the matter without being swayed by sensational and tragic stories. One doesn’t necessarily need to side with one or the other party although these days most people don’t have any appetite for a non-partisan and non-tribal opinions.

ethiopianunity wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 16:54
Abere wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 16:56
ፍጹም እውነትን የሚያውቅ ሁሉ በእጁ የሆነው አልፋ እና ኦሜጋ እግዚአብሄር ብቻ ነው።

እውነት አንጻራዊ ነው። ዘመነ ካሴ ሰው እንጅ መልዐክ አይደለም። እኔ በአካል አላውቀም የቆመለት ሃሳብ ግን ህዝባዊ ነው። ሚልዮኖች ይከተሉታል። ይህ ማለት ደግሞ ህዝብ ፈረደ እግዜር ፈረደ ነው። እንደ እኔ እንድህ እንቅልፍ ነስቶ የአገር ሃብት እና የመከላከያ ሰራዊት ህይወት ከወራት በላይ መስዋዕት የሚያስከፍል ወንጀል ሰርቷል ለማለት አልችልም። ይህን ሰው ማሰር ግፍ ነው። ለዚያውም ና! እንታረቅ ብሎ ጠርቶ ማፈን ተራ ሽፍታ እንኳን አያደርገውም። አሁን ያለው የአገሪቱ መንግስት የቱን ያህል ከዱርዬ በታች በወረደ ሁኔታ እንደሚያስብ ነው የሚያሳየው። የብልጽግና ኦነግ መምግስት ቀይዋን ጥቁሯን አይነት የካርታ ቁማር ጨዋታ ነው የያዘው። ይህ እራሱን ይጎዳዋል። እንደ እኔ ዘመነን መልቀቅ አለባቸው ባይነኝ - ሞኝ አማካሪ ነው እንድታሰር ያደረገው።


ethiopianunity wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 15:51
Abere,

Why do you believe 100% that Zemene is clean?
As you know, in divided Ethiopia, it is hard to find that which news are real. What is worse is that through misinformation from media, you can be persuaded falsely to support or oppose individuals, policies, etc. It is dangerous such situations for Ethiopia when populations are confused who and what to support. So a while ago l saw 2 opposing media, one that supports Zemene, the other that opposes Zemene. One media showed, Zemene came to be hero out of no where and was in Eritrea, fighting Tplf and came out to oppose Ginbot7. If both Ginbot 7 and Zemene are fighting for Ethiopia's cause, why did Zemene accuse Hinbot 7 or vice versa? Here is hard to know why if Zemene and both were fighting Tplf in Eritrea ( have you seen any Ethiopian fighters succeeding against Tplf in Eritrea, except Olf who is now in Ethiopia and controlling it, and Tplf who took over Ethiopia gor 27 years, but never Ethiopian fighters?) So, segment of population just before Tplf believed Zemene and began to oppose Ginbot 7 there was a story anout betraual, etc. Something obviously wrong happened in Eritrea. We know that Eritrea is the factory for anti Ethiopia fighters. Just recently, Eritrea was training All Shabab fighters in Eritrea and packed them back to Somalia, and now, All Shaba is threatening Ethiopia. Back to Zemene, people supported Ginbot 7 before Tplf was ousted but not after the incident in Eritrea. I bet you, just like Tplf and Olf, Eritrea was creating another ethnic factory called maybe, Alf Amara Liberation Front. You must see the pattern here after formation of Olf. and Tplf. So, it is hard to know in reality, ethnic group formation and fight for control in Addis is and will Ethiopia apart.
Selam. Don't take this media misinformation lightly, case in point, cnn. I say, Ethiopians from all over, must get to work, bringing problems of Ethiopia including media misinformation with solution, solution, solution.

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Post by Selam/ » 24 Sep 2022, 18:00

I have terminated my cable TV long time ago upon learning that they are just a mouth piece of CIA & aid agencies. I don’t trust any of the social media outlets either. I only rely on first hand information from folks on the ground.
ethiopianunity wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 17:20
Selam/ wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 17:06
My answer is simple - listen to both sides of the story before you endorse any rumor or report. If you have time, research & get to the bottom of the matter without being swayed by sensational and tragic stories. One doesn’t necessarily need to side with one or the other party although these days most people don’t have any appetite for a non-partisan and non-tribal opinions.

ethiopianunity wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 16:54
Abere wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 16:56
ፍጹም እውነትን የሚያውቅ ሁሉ በእጁ የሆነው አልፋ እና ኦሜጋ እግዚአብሄር ብቻ ነው።

እውነት አንጻራዊ ነው። ዘመነ ካሴ ሰው እንጅ መልዐክ አይደለም። እኔ በአካል አላውቀም የቆመለት ሃሳብ ግን ህዝባዊ ነው። ሚልዮኖች ይከተሉታል። ይህ ማለት ደግሞ ህዝብ ፈረደ እግዜር ፈረደ ነው። እንደ እኔ እንድህ እንቅልፍ ነስቶ የአገር ሃብት እና የመከላከያ ሰራዊት ህይወት ከወራት በላይ መስዋዕት የሚያስከፍል ወንጀል ሰርቷል ለማለት አልችልም። ይህን ሰው ማሰር ግፍ ነው። ለዚያውም ና! እንታረቅ ብሎ ጠርቶ ማፈን ተራ ሽፍታ እንኳን አያደርገውም። አሁን ያለው የአገሪቱ መንግስት የቱን ያህል ከዱርዬ በታች በወረደ ሁኔታ እንደሚያስብ ነው የሚያሳየው። የብልጽግና ኦነግ መምግስት ቀይዋን ጥቁሯን አይነት የካርታ ቁማር ጨዋታ ነው የያዘው። ይህ እራሱን ይጎዳዋል። እንደ እኔ ዘመነን መልቀቅ አለባቸው ባይነኝ - ሞኝ አማካሪ ነው እንድታሰር ያደረገው።


ethiopianunity wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 15:51
Abere,

Why do you believe 100% that Zemene is clean?
As you know, in divided Ethiopia, it is hard to find that which news are real. What is worse is that through misinformation from media, you can be persuaded falsely to support or oppose individuals, policies, etc. It is dangerous such situations for Ethiopia when populations are confused who and what to support. So a while ago l saw 2 opposing media, one that supports Zemene, the other that opposes Zemene. One media showed, Zemene came to be hero out of no where and was in Eritrea, fighting Tplf and came out to oppose Ginbot7. If both Ginbot 7 and Zemene are fighting for Ethiopia's cause, why did Zemene accuse Hinbot 7 or vice versa? Here is hard to know why if Zemene and both were fighting Tplf in Eritrea ( have you seen any Ethiopian fighters succeeding against Tplf in Eritrea, except Olf who is now in Ethiopia and controlling it, and Tplf who took over Ethiopia gor 27 years, but never Ethiopian fighters?) So, segment of population just before Tplf believed Zemene and began to oppose Ginbot 7 there was a story anout betraual, etc. Something obviously wrong happened in Eritrea. We know that Eritrea is the factory for anti Ethiopia fighters. Just recently, Eritrea was training All Shabab fighters in Eritrea and packed them back to Somalia, and now, All Shaba is threatening Ethiopia. Back to Zemene, people supported Ginbot 7 before Tplf was ousted but not after the incident in Eritrea. I bet you, just like Tplf and Olf, Eritrea was creating another ethnic factory called maybe, Alf Amara Liberation Front. You must see the pattern here after formation of Olf. and Tplf. So, it is hard to know in reality, ethnic group formation and fight for control in Addis is and will Ethiopia apart.
Selam. Don't take this media misinformation lightly, case in point, cnn. I say, Ethiopians from all over, must get to work, bringing problems of Ethiopia including media misinformation with solution, solution, solution.

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