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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Sadacha Macca » 26 May 2022, 15:36

An updated, modern, version of it, in which a new leadership takes the reign every 8 years... is good. There are pro's and cons to the oromo gadaa and to the Abyssinian, tyrannical, centralized, system of governance.. there is good and bad in both systems...so maybe take the good from both types of systems, especially with the gadaa system of the leadership change being mandatory every 8 years... maybe shorten it to 4-6... and then go from there...

btw the same can be said for the Abyssinian elitist form of governance; their forces raped, assimilated, enslaved, etc, those they encountered during their expansion and the proof for it is overwhelming available...



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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Abere » 26 May 2022, 16:01

This idiot is coming out to validate what have been known to most of us. The thing is the 75% of Ethiopians that are alien to Orommuma can Not be forced by the minority 25% of the population. A minority can't subject the majority to be ruled by the 15th centuray nomadic cattle herder rituals. Anyway, the ወጣ ወጣ እና እንደ ሸንበቆ ተንከባለለ ኦነግ እንደ ሙቀጫ።


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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Wedi » 26 May 2022, 16:10

The Gallas nature!!

"I have elsewhere .... indicated that whereas the merit of killing was honored among other Ethiopian people as a man's personal merit, among the the Oromo it is was merely regarded as fulfillment of the natural order of things. What counted for them was not the heroic achievement - the killing of an enemy warrior or a dangerous wild beast - but simply killing as such. It is true that the sacrificial victim had to be a human being or an animal of particular kinds. But within this range it did not matter whether it was a young elephant, a delicate youth or an old man"

ትርጉም
"በሌላ ቦታ እንዳመለከትኩት ግድያ በኢሎች ኢትዮጵያውያን ሕዝቦች ዘንድ የሚያስከብር እነደወንድነት መለኪያ የሚታይ ቢሆንም በኦሮሞዎች ዘንድ ግ ን ተራ የተፈጥሮ ሕግ ተደርጎ ይቆጠራል፡፡ ለእነርሱ እንደ ቁምነገር የሚቆጠረው የጠላት ወታደር ወይም አደገኛ የዱር አውሬ መግደል የጀኝነት ሥራ መፈጸም አይደለም፡፡ ነገር ግን ግድያ መፈጸሙ ራሱ ቁም ነገር ነው፡፡ በእርግጥ የሚገደለው ተጎጅ ሰው ወይም የተወሰነ አይነት እንስሳ መሆን አለበት፡፡ ነገር ግ ን በዚህ ክልል ውስጥ [የሚገደለው] ግልገል ዝሆን ይሁን ትልቅ ዝሆን፣ ያልጠና ህጻን ይሁን አዛውንት ምንም ችግር የለውም፡፡"

ከበረራ - ቀዳሚት አዲስ አበባ ከ1400 - 1887 ዓ.ም ከሚለው መጽሃፍ ገጽ 322 የተወሰደ

Original source: Haberland, Galla Sud-Athiopiens, 777

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Abere » 26 May 2022, 16:16

We are living in the 21st century where man is led by reason not by a beef jerky pen!s is posted on the forehead. And monstrous face smeared by the blood of an ox. If bushmen lifestyle is democracy, how about a monkey pride. Genital and breast mutilation, herding 10 women as wives, violence, etc. are the hallmark of Aba Geday aka geda.

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Sadacha Macca » 26 May 2022, 16:18

Aha, I love to see my enemies cry and complain online, it means they are so weak and obsessed with us, and can't do nothing about it. Hilarious indeed, especially Wedi aka Tarik, aka the wannabe Amara, when in reality, he's a Tegadalay Tigrayan Cyber Cadre.


Abere,
Nobody is forcing you to be an Oromo, that's the difference, you don't see Oromo, whether in PP or the average civilian, asking you, or trying to force you or anyone to be an Oromo. Abiy's government represents themselves, and their circle, not the Oromo masses. But, you cannot hide your anti-Oromo bias, even if a billion dollars depended on it; so you insult all Oromo, instead of insulting the few Oromo in the PP Govt.
Oh well, keep crying. Who said anything about those things you said? Gadaa system would be modernized and changed to fit today's reality, of course, but do tell us about how great your ethnic groups system of governance and how well it worked!



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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Wedi » 26 May 2022, 18:46

Revelations

Thank you for sharing this valuable and historic document about the Gallas!!

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Sadacha Macca » 26 May 2022, 19:16

Aha love to see the enemies of the Oromo cry and whine, especially about a system of governance that hasn't been in use for well over a century now.

:lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Revelations » 26 May 2022, 20:05

Stop chocking on Shimelis Abdisa's vomit which you excitedly started gulping voluntarily.

Sadacha Macca wrote:
26 May 2022, 19:16
Aha love to see the enemies of the Oromo cry and whine, especially about a system of governance that hasn't been in use for well over a century now.

:lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Sadacha Macca wrote:
26 May 2022, 16:18
Aha, I love to see my enemies cry and complain online, it means they are so weak and obsessed with us, and can't do nothing about it. Hilarious indeed, especially Wedi aka Tarik, aka the wannabe Amara, when in reality, he's a Tegadalay Tigrayan Cyber Cadre.


Abere,
Nobody is forcing you to be an Oromo, that's the difference, you don't see Oromo, whether in PP or the average civilian, asking you, or trying to force you or anyone to be an Oromo. Abiy's government represents themselves, and their circle, not the Oromo masses. But, you cannot hide your anti-Oromo bias, even if a billion dollars depended on it; so you insult all Oromo, instead of insulting the few Oromo in the PP Govt.
Oh well, keep crying. Who said anything about those things you said? Gadaa system would be modernized and changed to fit today's reality, of course, but do tell us about how great your ethnic groups system of governance and how well it worked!

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by union » 26 May 2022, 20:10

Wahabi

You are on your own. What you did to Ethiopians in 16th century and for the last 5 years is hunting you now! Mark my words we are going to hear you cry on ER very soon or you will disappear forever! Where are you going run to, back to Kenya!
Sadacha Macca wrote:
26 May 2022, 19:16
Aha love to see the enemies of the Oromo cry and whine, especially about a system of governance that hasn't been in use for well over a century now.

:lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Sadacha Macca » 26 May 2022, 20:18

Revelations wrote:
26 May 2022, 20:05
Stop chocking on Shimelis Abdisa's vomit which you excitedly started gulping voluntarily.

Sadacha Macca wrote:
26 May 2022, 19:16
Aha love to see the enemies of the Oromo cry and whine, especially about a system of governance that hasn't been in use for well over a century now.

:lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Sadacha Macca wrote:
26 May 2022, 16:18
Aha, I love to see my enemies cry and complain online, it means they are so weak and obsessed with us, and can't do nothing about it. Hilarious indeed, especially Wedi aka Tarik, aka the wannabe Amara, when in reality, he's a Tegadalay Tigrayan Cyber Cadre.


Abere,
Nobody is forcing you to be an Oromo, that's the difference, you don't see Oromo, whether in PP or the average civilian, asking you, or trying to force you or anyone to be an Oromo. Abiy's government represents themselves, and their circle, not the Oromo masses. But, you cannot hide your anti-Oromo bias, even if a billion dollars depended on it; so you insult all Oromo, instead of insulting the few Oromo in the PP Govt.
Oh well, keep crying. Who said anything about those things you said? Gadaa system would be modernized and changed to fit today's reality, of course, but do tell us about how great your ethnic groups system of governance and how well it worked!

Ato Rev,

Aha, I love to see your anger-inspired rants against the Oromo, it's great, I love to see it. I can imagine you furiously typing away, Lol.
It's also interesting that, your only response is post more links and excerpts, or insults; very very typical indeed kind sir. Talking about the Gadaa system, is one thing, to offer constructive criticism, because any honest and objective person will say that it has its share of flaws and its share of good things, which goes for ANY form of governance made by men, since men are inherently flawed.
However, you do not not offer objective takes or analysis, just insults, posting link after link or excerpt after excerpt.
As I said before, it'd be best to take the good from all forms of governance that indigenous to Ethiopia, be it GADAA or The Abyssinian highly centralized, system which is perfect for dictators and emperors, etc, and then leave off the bad things.


Sister Union aka Belaynesh aka Right,

Eshi, if you say so. If that lie makes you feel better, then keep lying.

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Abere » 26 May 2022, 20:21

How does Gada system exist if an Orommuma possessed person cannot chopped off the pen!s of another unsuspected man and make a sacrifice? And how can an Orommuma possessed Arusi savage be purified to assume rank in the savage Aba geday unless he mutilates the breast of a woman. And these practices are still alive and are occurring in Bale and part of Arusi. Genital hacking and harvesting is the soul of Aba geday system. As an Ethiopian, it is my moral obligation to advocate to eliminate harmful practices. There is nothing good so to speak from the 15th century Orommuma cult. Humanity is increasingly becoming closer, thanks to the information and technological revolution; the world is evolving almost into a culture much like built on common denominator. Nobody has time to pay attention to the idiot Shemelis Abdissa or other retard Orommuma.He may try riding opportunist ብአደን
Revelations wrote:
26 May 2022, 20:05
Stop chocking on Shimelis Abdisa's vomit which you excitedly started gulping voluntarily.

Sadacha Macca wrote:
26 May 2022, 19:16
Aha love to see the enemies of the Oromo cry and whine, especially about a system of governance that hasn't been in use for well over a century now.

:lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Sadacha Macca wrote:
26 May 2022, 16:18
Aha, I love to see my enemies cry and complain online, it means they are so weak and obsessed with us, and can't do nothing about it. Hilarious indeed, especially Wedi aka Tarik, aka the wannabe Amara, when in reality, he's a Tegadalay Tigrayan Cyber Cadre.


Abere,
Nobody is forcing you to be an Oromo, that's the difference, you don't see Oromo, whether in PP or the average civilian, asking you, or trying to force you or anyone to be an Oromo. Abiy's government represents themselves, and their circle, not the Oromo masses. But, you cannot hide your anti-Oromo bias, even if a billion dollars depended on it; so you insult all Oromo, instead of insulting the few Oromo in the PP Govt.
Oh well, keep crying. Who said anything about those things you said? Gadaa system would be modernized and changed to fit today's reality, of course, but do tell us about how great your ethnic groups system of governance and how well it worked!

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Sadacha Macca » 26 May 2022, 21:12

Abere, can you show us some examples, with proof of course, of what you said, of those practices of mutilating people in parts of Oromia, still recently occurring? Of course, we need actual proof, not just your word and if you lack proof, then it's safe to say that you're a liar, who is so blinded by your hatred and fear of the Oromo, that you're willing to lie to portray the Oromo in a certain light.
Oromummaa is the Oromo identity, the language, the culture, the people itself; so insulting it, is insulting all Oromo. In which case, you are basically saying all Oromo are your enemies, which is fine, but be honest and say that, instead of beating around the bush like a COWARD.
Trust when I say this, the old days that you long for, are long gone. It's either federalism or we go our separate ways, simple as that!

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Re: "The Future of Ethiopia: back to our origin Gada system" twitted Shimelis Abdisa

Post by Horus » 27 May 2022, 00:42

Nostalgia for a primitive tribal social system may be a dream of innocence for identity seeking modern day ethnocrats. The goss rituals and sheer ignorance of its practice however will be unpalatable to the 21st century Oromo humanity. The Oromo Geda system is a good subject matter for academic cultural and social anthropologists. Folks can practice them if they wish as their cultural heritage. As an organizing principle of a modern political system, it is a nonstarter. Actually, it is a stupid idea.

A society located in the 21st century, be it modern or post-modern, requires a political system founded on moral philosophies and moral theories that articulate the ideas of interest, natural rights, reason, social contract, liberty, justice, virtue, pluralism and critical issues such as ecological well-being and spiritual connectivity of humanity with its cosmos.

People of the world had lived in and under post-primitive and non-tribal, non-clan social, legal and political systems for over 4, 000 years. Any nostalgia, whatever its psychological source, to return to a primitive clan organization of society is not only laughable but a vain waste of time and resource in this fast moving Internet and Blokchain technology age.

The world has moved forward. Let the Oromo people move forward.

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