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ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by Horus » 11 May 2022, 02:58

ሆድን በጎመን ቢደልሉት ጉልበት በዳገት ይለግማል ይባላል ! አቢይ አህመድ የትግሬ ባንዳዎች የሰጡትን ሕገ መንግስት ታቅፎ ትግሬዎች እርሳቸው ከወምበሩ ያነሱታል!! ግብጽን ማሸነፍ ከፈለገ አቢይ ባስቸኋይ ኢትዮጵያን ለኢትዮጵያዊያን መመለስ አለበት !



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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by kibramlak » 11 May 2022, 07:02

Horus,
Who can untie the puzzle why the miserable PM gave such adequate time to let tplf and the enemies to reorganize ?
When both the ENDF and local forces were in good shape to eliminate them, especially after the second operation

In my view the miserable PM sold Ethiopian interest in favor of saving his ar$z. Who cares if special commandos of any origins come and bring him down. When Abiy aka orommuma kills Ethiopians by just waving their flag, I would say bringing them down would be a blessing

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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by Right » 11 May 2022, 09:53

We have been saying it and we will say it again that Abiye Ahmed is a dead man walking.
By embracing ethnic federalism and the weyannie constitution he puts himself in a position to fail. He will be chased out by many of the competing forces around him.

Ethiopians gave it to him in a gold platter. He drove the nation for 4 long years to a dead end. He will be defeated by the same reason the TPLF has been defeated.

No.No. Much of the world has adopted democracy based on individual freedom. For Ethiopia that is the way out. Otherwise changing guards will not save us from sustained conflict and war. It is that simple.

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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by union » 11 May 2022, 09:57

Not only he gave plenty of time for tplf to regroup and replace their dead soldiers, he run around trying to disarm Fano who saved his arse. He is a 49 year, old man, with a child brain. Azawint with a retard mind who only knows how to run his mouth but can't think deep

kibramlak wrote:
11 May 2022, 07:02
Horus,
Who can untie the puzzle why the miserable PM gave such adequate time to let tplf and the enemies to reorganize ?
When both the ENDF and local forces were in good shape to eliminate them, especially after the second operation

In my view the miserable PM sold Ethiopian interest in favor of saving his ar$z. Who cares if special commandos of any origins come and bring him down. When Abiy aka orommuma kills Ethiopians by just waving their flag, I would say bringing them down would be a blessing

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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by TGAA » 11 May 2022, 11:33

Horus, all the mogassa crowd associate the Green,yellow, and red flag of Ethiopia with Amhara.Dispite Ethopians love for this flag and one of the oldest, historically significant sign of black pride they attack it just loke Grazianny would...the only time they restrain themselves is when their Arat killo power is threatened. Both.Meles chnawit and Abiy has shown their true character regarding Ethiopian flag. What they don't know is that the Ethiopian flag is at the center of Ethiopians heart and mind,and it is a matter of time it will be erected on the front yard of Ethiopians worthy of their salt.

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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by TGAA » 11 May 2022, 11:33

Horus, all the mogassa crowd associate the Green,yellow, and red flag of Ethiopia with Amhara.Dispite Ethopians love for this flag and one of the oldest, historically significant sign of black pride they attack it just like Grazianny would...the only time they restrain themselves is when their Arat killo power is threatened. Both.Meles chnawit and Abiy has shown their true character regarding Ethiopian flag. What they don't know is that the Ethiopian flag is at the center of Ethiopians heart and mind,and it is a matter of time it will be erected on the front yard of Ethiopians worthy of their salt.

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Post by Horus » 11 May 2022, 12:50

As the saying goes, the more things change, the more they stay the same. ኢትዮጵያዊያን በአቢይ ንግግርና ቃላት ለምን ተማረኩ የሚሉት የወያኔ ልሳኖችና ኢታሪካዊ ምናባዊያን ወደ ጎን ትተን የነገሮች ሂደት እንከተል። አቢይ ለምንድን ነው በወያኔ ላይ የተልፈሰፈሰው? ለሚለው እኔ መልሱን ከጃዋር የቅርብ ቃለ መጠይቅ አግኝቼዋለሁ ።

የኢዮጵያዊነትና የአማራ ሃይል ሲጠነክር ኦሮሞቹ ትግሬን ሚዛን ለመጠበቅ ስለሚፈልጓቸው አቢይ አፈገፈገ። ጃዋር ይህን ነገር ኤሊት ባርጌይን (የኦሮሞ አማራ ትግሬ) ልሂቃን የሃይል ድርድር የሚለው ነገር አለው። አቢይ በንግግሩ ኤሊት ባርጌይን አልፈልግም ሲል ሰምቼዋለሁ ፣ ግ ን ያለው ህሳቤ ያ ነው። ይህ ሞዴል ግ ን ፍጹም ስህተት ነው ። የኢትዮጵያዊነት ሃይሎች፣ የከተማ ሕዝብ፣ የደቡብ ሕዝብ፣ አፋር፣ ሶማሊ፣ ጋምቤላ ቤኒሻንጉል ምናምን ሁሉ ከቁጥር አያስገባም ።

ሺመልስ አብዲሳ ደጋግሞ አንዴ በጃችን የገባችው ስልጣን የሚለው ነገር አለ ። አቢይ አህመድም ከዚያ ስሌት መውጣት ስላልቻለ አማራ ጥሎት ሄደ ። አሁን ያማራን ሚዛን ለመጠበቅ ወደ ትግሬ ቢያጋድል አልገረምም ።

ይህም ሆነ ያ አማራም ቢሆን የቀረውን ኢትዮጵያ ባንደንት የሚያስነሳ ንቅናቄ መፍጠር ከፈለገ የጎሳ ስርዓት ፈርሶ የዜጋ ስርዓት እንዲነግስ የሚያደርግ አጀንዳ ማቅረብ አለበት ። የአማራ ጎሳ ንቅናቄ ከትግሬ ጎሳ እና ከኦሮሞ ተረኝነት የተለየ አይሆንም ።

በአሁን ወቅት የአቢይ ፖለቲካ መሰረት ከኦሮሞ ብሄረተኝነት ጋር በመጋለጡ ብዙ አቢይን የሚጠሉ ጮቤ እየረገጡ ነው። ግን ምንድን ነው የሚተካው? ምንድን ነው የሚቀጥለው የፖለቲካ ክስተት ብለው አይጠይቁም ። ዮፍታሄ ንጉሴ እንዳለው አገሬ ጠንክራ ካልረገጠች እርካብ ነገራችን ሁሉ የምቧይ ካብ የምቧይ ካብ እንዳይሆን ።

አቢይ አህመድ ኢትዮጵያን ከጎሳ ስርዓት የሚያላቅቅ ረፎርም መምራት ካቃተው፣ ይህን አስከፊ የዘር ፖለቲካ የሚያፈርስ አገር አቀፍ ንቅናቄና ካስፈለም አብዮት ማደራጃ ወቅት ውስጥ እየገባን ነው።

ኢትዮጵያ ዘመናዊ የዜጎች ፖለቲካ ስርዓት ሳትሆን ይህ የ50 አመት ትግል መቆም የለበትም!
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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 11 May 2022, 14:52

Horus wrote:
11 May 2022, 12:50

ሺመልስ አብዲሳ ደጋግሞ አንዴ በጃችን የገባችው ስልጣን የሚለው ነገር አለ ። አቢይ አህመድም ከዚያ ስሌት መውጣት ስላልቻለ አማራ ጥሎት ሄደ ። አሁን ያማራን ሚዛን ለመጠበቅ ወደ ትግሬ ቢያጋድል አልገረምም ።
If Shimales Abdisa said that, he is talking about Oromia and I don't think anything is wrong that much about that.

We have already discussed about sovereignty of a nation and a nation can be truly sovereign only when all of its constituents are also sovereigns, at all levels.

It has to be over that someone else comes in and decide on behalf of others on issues of their internal affairs. This has to be the bottom line, in my view.

Trying to decide which symbols should be accorded a status in the Oromo region should be decided by the Oromo people, the residents of the region.

And the same should be true for all of the remaining constituents of the nation.

If Obbo Shimales was talking about his people going somewhere else and dominating others, then he shouldn't be a leader for even a single night. He is not dumb to remotely imply such an intention. We also know what the propaganda machine is capable of creating.

Shimales Abdisa is doing the job he is there to do, in the first place. Recently I heard about a report which said there are more than 10 million students in the region in the schools across the region. If that is true, then the next question is when was that the case in the whole of the nation's history?

We have also heard repeatedly about the successful modernization of Agriculture in the region under this government of Obbo Shimales Abdisa, for the first time the region will be producing a surplus of grains that the county could be exporting wheat in over a year's time from now.

So, in short the Oromo people are going to have a serious question why such a servant of the people should be removed and why?

As it stands now any dent of logic in the ideas presented on Mereja forum has been totally eradicated, these days.

The video says somebody is conspiring to remove Abiy Ahmed from power in Ethiopia, and the reason is he is too nationalist. He has to be replace by a less nationalist leader, according to the claim.

Now many people who have been loudly claiming about their nationalistic stand now suddenly ululating about the news.
It is a blessing,
said one inpet lumpen of this forum about the news.

Everything is bizarre on this forum these days.

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Post by Horus » 11 May 2022, 15:16

DTT
You devoted most of your comment on Shimels whom I mentioned only in relation to Abiy's possible Oromo nationalist stands. The issue is not Shimels, it is Abiy who is the leader of the whole of Ethiopia and Adanech the mayor of Addis Abeba. When Abiy's power was threatened by Tigrays, he mobilized the whole nation on the vision of Adwa and our Historic Flag! As soon as he was secured he/Adanech ordered citizens not wave their flag, their national symbol and cherished identity. Orthodox youth were killed for carrying their flag on Timket celebration. That is when the hidden Oromo agenda was exposed. ተመልሶ የማይታደስ ስህተት ሰርተው እውነተኛ ልባቸው ተጋልጦ የህዝብ አመኔታ ያጡት ያኔ ነው ። ብርሌ ከነቃ አይሆንም እቃ የሚባለው ያ ነው ።

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Post by Right » 11 May 2022, 15:25

Horus,
Your explanation is correct except one misconception. The late Professor Asrat w/s, one of the brilliant mind of his generation was asked why he felt he has to create the “All Amahara Party” while he made it clear he is against ethnic politics. “As you know, all the Amharas know, defend, believe and live for Ethiopia. But the enemy of Ethiopia selectively try to eliminate the Amaharas from the face of the earth because of their identity. In the absence of a government, an institution and organization to defend him we are forced out of necessity to get organized to defend. The whole world knows we don’t negotiate on Ethiopia.”

Your heart knows the Amharas hate ethnic politics because they know the end result. They are civilized and ahead of the game. But ethnic politics is forced on them. All the earlier political parties (EPRP,EPLF, TPLF,MEISON etc) in Ethiopia created based on hating the Amaharas.
Even the so called Amahar parties such as ANDM now Amahara PP, ABN are created to hurt Amahara by the TPLF.
One fact Abiye said is that: only one Killil is for the abolition of the current constitution.

Please, once in your life be honest. We all know you deeply hate the Amaharas. But at least once in a while speak the truth.
Let us all join hands for a democracy based on individual right. You will not point out one single Amahara that will oppose a democratic Ethiopia.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 11 May 2022, 15:56

Horus wrote:
11 May 2022, 15:16
DTT
You devoted most of your comment on Shimels whom I mentioned only in relation to Abiy's possible Oromo nationalist stands. The issue is not Shimels, it is Abiy who is the leader of the whole of Ethiopia and Adanech the mayor of Addis Abeba. When Abiy's power was threatened by Tigrays, he mobilized the whole nation on the vision of Adwa and our Historic Flag! As soon as he was secured he/Adanech ordered citizens not wave their flag, their national symbol and cherished identity. Orthodox youth were killed for carrying their flag on Timket celebration. That is when the hidden Oromo agenda was exposed. ተመልሶ የማይታደስ ስህተት ሰርተው እውነተኛ ልባቸው ተጋልጦ የህዝብ አመኔታ ያጡት ያኔ ነው ። ብርሌ ከነቃ አይሆንም እቃ የሚባለው ያ ነው ።
I don't think Ethiopians were mobilized to rescue the power of Abiy Ahmed or of any other individual or group in the country. The campaign was to save Ethiopia from domination and exploitation by outsiders. Abiy Ahmed found himself at the forefront of the mobilisation at the time and he succeeded in achieving the target.

Ethiopia is a land ruled by a means of law, everything that affects the affairs of the nation is stipulated by the law, before implemented or imposed on the citizens.

The same is true for the flag of any entity in the country.

There is no-short cut to bypassing the law under the cover of being mobilized to defend the nation.

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Post by Horus » 11 May 2022, 16:15

DefendTheTruth wrote:
11 May 2022, 15:56
Horus wrote:
11 May 2022, 15:16
DTT
You devoted most of your comment on Shimels whom I mentioned only in relation to Abiy's possible Oromo nationalist stands. The issue is not Shimels, it is Abiy who is the leader of the whole of Ethiopia and Adanech the mayor of Addis Abeba. When Abiy's power was threatened by Tigrays, he mobilized the whole nation on the vision of Adwa and our Historic Flag! As soon as he was secured he/Adanech ordered citizens not wave their flag, their national symbol and cherished identity. Orthodox youth were killed for carrying their flag on Timket celebration. That is when the hidden Oromo agenda was exposed. ተመልሶ የማይታደስ ስህተት ሰርተው እውነተኛ ልባቸው ተጋልጦ የህዝብ አመኔታ ያጡት ያኔ ነው ። ብርሌ ከነቃ አይሆንም እቃ የሚባለው ያ ነው ።
I don't think Ethiopians were mobilized to rescue the power of Abiy Ahmed or of any other individual or group in the country. The campaign was to save Ethiopia from domination and exploitation by outsiders. Abiy Ahmed found himself at the forefront of the mobilisation at the time and he succeeded in achieving the target.

Ethiopia is a land ruled by a means of law, everything that affects the affairs of the nation is stipulated by the law, before implemented or imposed on the citizens.

The same is true for the flag of any entity in the country.

There is no-short cut to bypassing the law under the cover of being mobilized to defend the nation.
እያንዳንዱ ስልጣን ላይ ቂጢጥ ያለ ቡድን ሁላ ያን ብሏል ። አንተ ሕግ የምትለው የትግሬ ባንዳ በኢትዮጵያ ላይ የጫነው መከራ ነው ! ደሞ አቤቤ ጣይቱ ነኝ ያለች ቀን ሁላችን ታሪካዊ ባንዲራችን ይዘን ነው መስቀል አደባባይ የነበርነው ! አስታ ላቪታ !

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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by TGAA » 11 May 2022, 16:49

DefendTheTruth wrote:
11 May 2022, 14:52
Horus wrote:
11 May 2022, 12:50

ሺመልስ አብዲሳ ደጋግሞ አንዴ በጃችን የገባችው ስልጣን የሚለው ነገር አለ ። አቢይ አህመድም ከዚያ ስሌት መውጣት ስላልቻለ አማራ ጥሎት ሄደ ። አሁን ያማራን ሚዛን ለመጠበቅ ወደ ትግሬ ቢያጋድል አልገረምም ።
If Shimales Abdisa said that, he is talking about Oromia and I don't think anything is wrong that much about that.

We have already discussed about sovereignty of a nation and a nation can be truly sovereign only when all of its constituents are also sovereigns, at all levels.

It has to be over that someone else comes in and decide on behalf of others on issues of their internal affairs. This has to be the bottom line, in my view.

Trying to decide which symbols should be accorded a status in the Oromo region should be decided by the Oromo people, the residents of the region.

And the same should be true for all of the remaining constituents of the nation.

If Obbo Shimales was talking about his people going somewhere else and dominating others, then he shouldn't be a leader for even a single night. He is not dumb to remotely imply such an intention. We also know what the propaganda machine is capable of creating.

Shimales Abdisa is doing the job he is there to do, in the first place. Recently I heard about a report which said there are more than 10 million students in the region in the schools across the region. If that is true, then the next question is when was that the case in the whole of the nation's history?

We have also heard repeatedly about the successful modernization of Agriculture in the region under this government of Obbo Shimales Abdisa, for the first time the region will be producing a surplus of grains that the county could be exporting wheat in over a year's time from now.

So, in short the Oromo people are going to have a serious question why such a servant of the people should be removed and why?

As it stands now any dent of logic in the ideas presented on Mereja forum has been totally eradicated, these days.

The video says somebody is conspiring to remove Abiy Ahmed from power in Ethiopia, and the reason is he is too nationalist. He has to be replace by a less nationalist leader, according to the claim.

Now many people who have been loudly claiming about their nationalistic stand now suddenly ululating about the news.
It is a blessing,
said one inpet lumpen of this forum about the news.

Everything is bizarre on this forum these days.
"We have already discussed about sovereignty of a nation and a nation can be truly sovereign only when all of its constituents are also sovereigns, at all levels."

"If Obbo Shimales was talking about his people going somewhere else and dominating others, then he shouldn't be a leader for even a single night.

What do you mean truly sovereign?
Dose it mean sovereignty includes discrimination of others dose it means defranchise of citizens to exercise their rights? While we discuss issues we rather not deploy strawman arguments to side stape the real issu. Meles' developmental arguments were as long as we are making economical progress the human right issues can stay as backburner. So you no one is trying to rule anyone else but every Ethiopians right should be treated as first class citizen while respecting the state rules.But the state under no circumstances should deny minorities their citizenship right.

Oromos, not Shimales people ' if they became a minority in other administrationtheir citzen rightr to elect or being elected,learn their native language, establish business etc should be respected regardless Shimales is there or not. You go in very underhanded way not to say what you really want to say because what you are insinuating is the very antithesis of democratc governance.

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Post by TGAA » 11 May 2022, 16:49

DefendTheTruth wrote:
11 May 2022, 14:52
Horus wrote:
11 May 2022, 12:50

ሺመልስ አብዲሳ ደጋግሞ አንዴ በጃችን የገባችው ስልጣን የሚለው ነገር አለ ። አቢይ አህመድም ከዚያ ስሌት መውጣት ስላልቻለ አማራ ጥሎት ሄደ ። አሁን ያማራን ሚዛን ለመጠበቅ ወደ ትግሬ ቢያጋድል አልገረምም ።
If Shimales Abdisa said that, he is talking about Oromia and I don't think anything is wrong that much about that.

We have already discussed about sovereignty of a nation and a nation can be truly sovereign only when all of its constituents are also sovereigns, at all levels.

It has to be over that someone else comes in and decide on behalf of others on issues of their internal affairs. This has to be the bottom line, in my view.

Trying to decide which symbols should be accorded a status in the Oromo region should be decided by the Oromo people, the residents of the region.

And the same should be true for all of the remaining constituents of the nation.

If Obbo Shimales was talking about his people going somewhere else and dominating others, then he shouldn't be a leader for even a single night. He is not dumb to remotely imply such an intention. We also know what the propaganda machine is capable of creating.

Shimales Abdisa is doing the job he is there to do, in the first place. Recently I heard about a report which said there are more than 10 million students in the region in the schools across the region. If that is true, then the next question is when was that the case in the whole of the nation's history?

We have also heard repeatedly about the successful modernization of Agriculture in the region under this government of Obbo Shimales Abdisa, for the first time the region will be producing a surplus of grains that the county could be exporting wheat in over a year's time from now.

So, in short the Oromo people are going to have a serious question why such a servant of the people should be removed and why?

As it stands now any dent of logic in the ideas presented on Mereja forum has been totally eradicated, these days.

The video says somebody is conspiring to remove Abiy Ahmed from power in Ethiopia, and the reason is he is too nationalist. He has to be replace by a less nationalist leader, according to the claim.

Now many people who have been loudly claiming about their nationalistic stand now suddenly ululating about the news.
It is a blessing,
said one inpet lumpen of this forum about the news.

Everything is bizarre on this forum these days.
"We have already discussed about sovereignty of a nation and a nation can be truly sovereign only when all of its constituents are also sovereigns, at all levels."

"If Obbo Shimales was talking about his people going somewhere else and dominating others, then he shouldn't be a leader for even a single night.

What do you mean truly sovereign?
Dose it mean sovereignty includes discrimination of others dose it means defranchise of citizens to exercise their rights? While we discuss issues we rather not deploy strawman arguments to side stape the real issu. Meles' developmental arguments were as long as we are making economical progress the human right issues can stay as backburner. So you know no one is trying to rule anyone else but every Ethiopians right should be treated as first class citizen while respecting the state rules.But the state under no circumstances should deny minorities their citizenship right.

Oromos, not Shimales people ' if they became a minority in other administration their citzen rightr to elect or being elected,learn their native language, establish business etc should be respected regardless Shimales is there or not. You go in a very underhanded way not to say what you really want to say because what you are insinuating is the very antithesis of democratc governance.

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Post by Horus » 11 May 2022, 17:13

የኦሮሞና ያማራ የጎሳ ከበርቴዎች ለስጣን ሲላላጡ አገር ማስተዳደር አቅቷቸው መሳቂያ ሆነው እያሉ ትግሬዎች የተለመደ የክረምት ሆያ ሆዬ ሲጀምሩ አሁን የኦሮማራ እርስ በርስ መሸላለም የጦፈው ። የጎሳ ፖለቲካ ከዚህ ኣያልፍም !! ይህን ጃዋር ኤሊት ባርጌይን ነው ብሎናል ። ይብላኝ ለትግሬ እንጂ እኛ ኦሮማራ መጣ ወይ ኦሮጸረማራ መጣ ግድ አይሰጠንም! የጎሳ ፖለቲካ ስልቻ ቀልቀሎ ቀልቀላ ስልቻ!! ነው

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Post by Right » 11 May 2022, 17:51

There is no such thing called the Amahara elite governing party.
If you are talking about the Demeke Mekonen PP, which by the way is an extension of the Berket Simon ANDM,then that is a very wrong analysis. They are anti Amahara.

Dishonest people should be beheaded in public square. Seriously.

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Post by ethiopianunity » 11 May 2022, 17:55

ሠዉ ያልገባው ነገር ሙሰቪኒ፣ ኢሲሳያስ፣ ካጋሜና፣ መለስ ወይ እንዲተባበሩ ከቅኝ ገዢዎች ምክር ተሰተዋቸዋል ወይ አፍሪካን ተባብረው ለመቆጣጠር አላማ አላቸው። ዓፍሪካን ማእድኗን ከምራባውያን ጋር አፍሪካኖችን እየጨፈጨፉ እያስጨፈጨፉ ማዕድኑን እየበዘበዙና እያስበዘበዙ በተለይ የእውነ ት ፓናፍሪካንና ነፃውጪ ፓትሪስ ሉሙምባን አገር ኮንጎን እንዳልነበረች አድርገዋታል። የሚመሰረተው ያለው ያዲሱ መንግስት በወርልድ ኦርደር የኮንጎ ህዝብን ለመቀነስ ዝግጁ መሆናቸው ነው። ኣሁን ምራባውያን በሚስጥር ያለም ተውካዮች ጋር ሆነው ያለም መሪዎች ኣገራቸውን ለወርልድ ኦርደር መንግስት ኣሳልፈው እዲያስረክቡ ውይይት ላይ ናቸው። ደሤት ኣገር ተወካይ እንኳን አልቀረም። ሑሉ ነገር የሚጠናቀቀው ኣለም ህዝብ ሳያቅና በዩክሬን ጦር ያለም ጦር ተነሳ በማለት እንዲደናገርና ሃሳቡ እዛ ላይ እንዲሆን ለህዝብ አደገኛ የሚሆነው በሚስጥር ያለም መንግስት እየተቋቋመ ነው። ይገርማል ይህ ድረ ገፅ ኣባላት ከጓሮ መውጣት ኣቅቷቸው እርስ በርስ በመናከስ ምን ያህል ጠላቶች ስኬታማ መሆናቸውን ነው የሚያሳየው ያለምን ሁኔታ እንዳናውቅ።

ኣብይ ኮንጎ ጦርነት ውስጥ ተሳትፏል ከኢፕልፍና ከቲፕልፍ ጋር ሆኖ። ይህ ማለት ኣብይ ኣሁን የሚመራው ያለው በነሱ ስር ሆኖ ነው ማለት ነው። ለዚህም ነው ኣገሩን ወደ ኣንድ የማያደርገው ባፍ እንጂ መሬት ላይ ምንም የማያደርገው። ኣሰፋ ጫቦ የሞቱበት ህገ መንግስቱና ክልል የተመሰረተው በኢሳያስ ትእዛዝ ነው። ዖነግም የሚንቀሳቀሰው የኢትዮዽያን መከፋፈል ኣስቀጣይ ነው። ዓንዳንድ ኦነጎች ኣደባባይ ወተው ኬንያ፣ኡጋንዳ፣ ርዋንዳ፣ ቡሩንዲ የኦሮሞ መልክ ኣላቸው ሲሉ ያው እንደ ይስይሳያስና መለስ ከኣገራቶቹ ጋር እንደ ኢትዮዽያነት ሳይሆን ከነሱ ጋር ሆነው ኢትዮዽያን የማፍረስ ኣጀንዳ ነው። የሚገርመው የኢየኢትዮዽያ ሚዲያ መሪ የሌለው ኣናርኪ መሆኑ ነው። በሚዲያ እንኳን ሕዝብ እንዲተባበር ኣገርን እንዲጠብቅ ለመንግስት ስራ ይቀልለት ነበር።

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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by TGAA » 11 May 2022, 18:06

Horus wrote:
11 May 2022, 17:13
የኦሮሞና ያማራ የጎሳ ከበርቴዎች ለስጣን ሲላላጡ አገር ማስተዳደር አቅቷቸው መሳቂያ ሆነው እያሉ ትግሬዎች የተለመደ የክረምት ሆያ ሆዬ ሲጀምሩ አሁን የኦሮማራ እርስ በርስ መሸላለም የጦፈው ። የጎሳ ፖለቲካ ከዚህ ኣያልፍም !! ይህን ጃዋር ኤሊት ባርጌይን ነው ብሎናል ። ይብላኝ ለትግሬ እንጂ እኛ ኦሮማራ መጣ ወይ ኦሮጸረማራ መጣ ግድ አይሰጠንም! የጎሳ ፖለቲካ ስልቻ ቀልቀሎ ቀልቀላ ስልቻ!! ነው
ይብላኝ ለትግሬ እንጂ እኛ ኦሮማራ መጣ ወይ ኦሮጸረማራ መጣ ግድ አይሰጠንም!

As much Erstu Yirdaw has said. I didn't know it is the official policy of all Garages.ኦሮጸረማራ!? For a man who swears not to split words --you are doing a lot of splitting-- brother Horus.

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Re: ግብጽ አሜሪካና ትግሬዎች ኢትዮጵያን ለማፍረስ ሲሰሩ አቢይና አዳነች ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሰንደቅ አላማቸው እንዳይዙ ይገድላሉ !!

Post by ethiopianunity » 11 May 2022, 18:43

What is not been said is that Aby Ahmed maybe chosen by liberation Fronts ( Shabia,Tplf- alive and well, Olf) and foreigners for reason. The reason is because he is half Muslim and the Liberation Front participation and foreigners participation by appointing Muslims only under Aby Ahmed is causing alarm obviously because it is sidelining traditional christian Ethiopians. The Liberation Fronts and foreigners who themselves chose want leader with background like Aby, are now pretending to be concerned , therefore, for regime change. They are also duping Uganda and Rwandan leaders as well the two nations have to participate in regime change in Ethiopia because Islam and Arabs will soon control Ethiopia narrative so that In order Liberation Fronts and foreigners to finally kill Ethiopia, they have to create scenarios in order to create war in Ethiopia and break it apart. Appointing Aby with Muslim background is perfect plan to create war in Ethiopia. Don't get me wrong, if Aby is genuine Ethiopian and leading Ethiopia while protecting Orthodox bringing equality and democracy to grow Ethiopia, that is great. If he is genuine, he should not play into their hands. Note also, traditional alliance of Ethiopia with Russia, will also bring suspicion against Aby and what intention he has in terms of Orthodox traditional Christians. Ethiopia was respected in the past and supported both by East and West because of her faith, culture, anti colonialism, history and what not. The existence of Liberation Fronts is proof enough to destroy the country. The role of current govt will determine as well. At the rate of Islam spreading in the region such as Tanzania, it is impossible to think the Orthodox followers will not be affected at the rate the previous and current situation happening in Ethiopia. The agenda of Liberation Fronts is that the very leadership they set up now on purpose to create in people's mind to bring concern of Islamic rule in Ethiopia, it is to cry victim pretending concern for Ethiopia it is under the control of Islam and Orthodox must go to war and we will help you agenda. The truth of their agenda is in fact through regime change plan to disintegrate the country and establish ethnic dominated Horn of Africa under Liberation Fronts. That is why Tplf will never be destroyed even the last Tigrayan is left, because when they were established under the leadership of their masters, All Liberation Fronts have role to play in establishing HOA, maybe Rwanda and Uganda included over the grave yard of Ethiopia or Orthodox followers/ Amara

What l see is because of concern also, Amara itself is fighting for its own region and Liberation Fronts have now achieved getting Amara to think only about its ethnic and not Ethiopia. Even on this discussion those talking for Amara Kibramlak, Tgaa, etc would not be able to analyze the current situation or are not researching and working to find out both from watching various news and what is on the ground except blaming Aby. As a leader he is controlled by Old and Liberation Fronts unless he is in it. It requires far sightedness to get Aby free from ethnic control. It is now designed if Aby is removed those anti Aby do not seem to have solution to replace Aby except blindly saying there will be devine intervention. Such belief is dangerous, because it is like looking for Menna from the sky instead of working on the ground. It is a great temptation, those Ethioouans are now being tested, god is questioning and testing them ( not just them it should be collective of all Ethiopia sayers) how to get Ethiopia out of this predicament. When l think of wisdom, Ase Minilik comes to mind.

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