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Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by EthioRedSea » 22 Jan 2022, 06:58

Menelik intentionally gave away Wolqait and Humera to Taitu, which was then made part of Gonder when Taitu died 1920. However the people speak Tigrigna and have similar culture as the rest of Tigray. The Amara tribe were settlers and occupied all administrative organs , thus a form of colonialism. It is right for Tigray to take back it's own land when TPLF took power in 1991 after overthrowing the military regime led by colonel Mengistu.

We need to objectively resolve this issue. Otherwise we will end up claiming land that did not belong to Amara and falsifying history. This is what the Amara tribe in Ethiopia tryong to do and should be opposed.

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by kibramlak » 22 Jan 2022, 07:17

Tigray is part of Amhara and afar prior to Minilk,
It has to be given to the rightful owners !!!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Moron

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by Gallo » 22 Jan 2022, 07:25

kibramlak wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 07:17
Tigray is part of Amhara and afar prior to Minilk,
It has to be given to the rightful owners !!!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Moron
This moron EthioRedSea did know that Tigray was a small province/Awarja before it conquer and annex former Amhara lands such as Tembien, Axum, Enderta and others :P :P

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by Digital Weyane » 22 Jan 2022, 07:44

ወልቃይና ሑመራ ኻው ጥንቲ ኻው ጥቅምቲ መርየት አምሓራ እየን። ንሕና ሃገርና ንፈቲ ተጋሩ ዘይናይና ዘይንደሊ፣ ናይና ዘይንህቢ፣ ህዝቢ እይና። :roll: :roll:

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by Selam/ » 22 Jan 2022, 08:11

Tigray was part of Eritrea before Yohannes gave it to Alula. Since they speak the same language, it should be given back to Mereb Melash. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
EthioRedSea wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 06:58
Menelik intentionally gave away Wolqait and Humera to Taitu, which was then made part of Gonder when Taitu died 1920. However the people speak Tigrigna and have similar culture as the rest of Tigray. The Amara tribe were settlers and occupied all administrative organs , thus a form of colonialism. It is right for Tigray to take back it's own land when TPLF took power in 1991 after overthrowing the military regime led by colonel Mengistu.

We need to objectively resolve this issue. Otherwise we will end up claiming land that did not belong to Amara and falsifying history. This is what the Amara tribe in Ethiopia tryong to do and should be opposed.

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by sarcasm » 22 Jan 2022, 08:54

ለእውነት እንመስክር ከተባለ ወልቃይት በትግራይ ስትተዳደር እንደነበረች ይሄ በ1854 የተጻፈ መጽሀፍ ቁልጭ አድርጎ አስቀምጦታል። ሙሉውን በpdf የምትፈልጉ ሊንኩን ከታች ታገኛላቹ

See page 87
http://aigaforum.com/documents/Nubia-an ... rchive.pdf

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by kibramlak » 22 Jan 2022, 09:06

Indeed. What a cancer and [email protected] people we are confronted with, with whom we are spending so much time and energy on things that are obvious to anyone
Gallo wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 07:25
kibramlak wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 07:17
Tigray is part of Amhara and afar prior to Minilk,
It has to be given to the rightful owners !!!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Moron
This moron EthioRedSea did know that Tigray was a small province/Awarja before it conquer and annex former Amhara lands such as Tembien, Axum, Enderta and others :P :P

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by Abaymado » 22 Jan 2022, 09:19

sarcasm wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 08:54
ለእውነት እንመስክር ከተባለ ወልቃይት በትግራይ ስትተዳደር እንደነበረች ይሄ በ1854 የተጻፈ መጽሀፍ ቁልጭ አድርጎ አስቀምጦታል። ሙሉውን በpdf የምትፈልጉ ሊንኩን ከታች ታገኛላቹ

See page 87
http://aigaforum.com/documents/Nubia-an ... rchive.pdf
Tigreans only have one evidence to show but Amhara presents too many.
By the way if you think can defeat with evidences , the door is open. Besides this kind of trend also work for all ethnics including galla.

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by sarcasm » 22 Jan 2022, 09:47

Abaymado wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 09:19
sarcasm wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 08:54
ለእውነት እንመስክር ከተባለ ወልቃይት በትግራይ ስትተዳደር እንደነበረች ይሄ በ1854 የተጻፈ መጽሀፍ ቁልጭ አድርጎ አስቀምጦታል። ሙሉውን በpdf የምትፈልጉ ሊንኩን ከታች ታገኛላቹ

See page 87
http://aigaforum.com/documents/Nubia-an ... rchive.pdf
Tigreans only have one evidence to show but Amhara presents too many.
By the way if you think can defeat with evidences , the door is open. Besides this kind of trend also work for all ethnics including galla.

The ethnic composition map3 of north Ethiopia produced by the Derg regime in 1978 G.C. (1971 E.C.) indicate that the regions designated today as western and southern Tigray have been dominated by Tigrayans.




Haileleuel Getahun, an Amhara scholar, accuses TPLF of illegally annexing Wolkait and Raya. However, his book indicates quantitatively that Tigrayans were the dominant ethnic group in these contested areas while they were under the administration of Wollo and Gondar.4

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by Abaymado » 22 Jan 2022, 09:57

sarcasm wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 09:47
Abaymado wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 09:19
sarcasm wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 08:54
ለእውነት እንመስክር ከተባለ ወልቃይት በትግራይ ስትተዳደር እንደነበረች ይሄ በ1854 የተጻፈ መጽሀፍ ቁልጭ አድርጎ አስቀምጦታል። ሙሉውን በpdf የምትፈልጉ ሊንኩን ከታች ታገኛላቹ

See page 87
http://aigaforum.com/documents/Nubia-an ... rchive.pdf
Tigreans only have one evidence to show but Amhara presents too many.
By the way if you think can defeat with evidences , the door is open. Besides this kind of trend also work for all ethnics including galla.

The ethnic composition map3 of north Ethiopia produced by the Derg regime in 1978 G.C. (1971 E.C.) indicate that the regions designated today as western and southern Tigray have been dominated by Tigrayans.




Haileleuel Getahun, an Amhara scholar, accuses TPLF of illegally annexing Wolkait and Raya. However, his book indicates quantitatively that Tigrayans were the dominant ethnic group in these contested areas while they were under the administration of Wollo and Gondar.4
Ok you are saying Tigreans are dominant. But that doesn't mean welkait was tigray's. Even so the 'dominant' thing came after weyane systematically settled them. Besides the inhabitants said tigreans were flocking in large numbers to work on plantation fields. And as a result instead of returning back to where they came, they remained there.

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by sarcasm » 22 Jan 2022, 10:06

Abaymado wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 09:57

Even so the 'dominant' thing came after weyane systematically settled them
The data is from Derg administration days.

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by Abaymado » 22 Jan 2022, 10:42

sarcasm wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 10:06
Abaymado wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 09:57

Even so the 'dominant' thing came after weyane systematically settled them
The data is from Derg administration days.
That was 1991 when weyane took power. I want the demography before that. Because manipulatively they created that data. Nobody believe that.

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by Wedi » 22 Jan 2022, 11:11

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" የህወሃት መሪዎች ወልቃይትን በሐይል ወደ ትግራይ ካጠቃለሉ በኋላ ከ500 ሺህ በላይ የትግራይ ተወላጆችን አምጥተው አስፈረውበታ፡፡"

(መኮነን ዘለለው -- የቀድሞ የህወሓት አባል)

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Re: Humera and Wolqait was taken from Tigray given to Taitu by Menelik, but has been part of Tigray prior to that

Post by EthioRedSea » 22 Jan 2022, 13:20

The man called Makonnen Zelelew is a pathological liar. There was no settlements of 500000 Tigrayans to Welqait and Tsegede. This could not be done without the knowledge of the public. The area has been home to Tigrayans since Aksumite Kingdom. The new settlers are Amara who migrated from Bale and Wellega subsequent to ahmed GRAGN'S INVASOIN and Ottoman Turkey's war of expansion. The Amara of Gonder dress like slaves ( I am not sure if Wello and Gojame or Shewa have the same traditional dress as Gonder Amara) where Tigrayans have kept their ancient Aksumite culture. Besides there are no Eritreans in Wolqait or Gonder. They are Tigrayans if they speak tigrigna. There might be some who came after Eritrea joined Ethiopia in a federation in 1952.
Wolqait Tselmeti is Agew/Tigrayan. Amara could live there as long as they respect every other ethnic group. But the administration should be under Meqelle.

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