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Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by OPFist » 21 Jan 2022, 01:51

Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

The power struggle in Ethiopia (Great Oromia) will be mainly between the three camps of Oromo elites; Abyssianists vs Ethiopianists vs Oromianists. It seems the two Habesha blocs (Amhara and Tegaru elites) are done and have gone never to get back the leading political influence in Finfinne palace. But, they may try to use Abyssianist Oromos in order to beat the Ethiopianists and Oromianists. What is the difference between the three types of Oromo elites? Abyssianists like those in OPP are with slave mentality adoring Amharanet instead of respecting Oromumma. Such elites from Yekuno-Amlak to Abiy Ahmed used to rule Ethiopia. That is why I dare to say that biological Oromos always ruled Ethiopia, but Oromumma has never got chance to play its legitimate leadership as an identity of the majotity in the country. Ethiopianists like those in OFC want to democratize Ethiopia in Oromo terms so that it will be de facto Great Oromia. Oromianists like those in the OLF want to either establish Gadaa republic Oromia or change the name of Gadaa democratic Ethiopia to Great Oromia. It is clear that Abyssianist Oromo elites led by Abiy Ahmed are now ruling the country by keeping the domination of Amharanet/Amharigna and suppression of Oromumma/Otomiffa to the second position. It seems Ethiopianist Oromo elites are now trying to bring Lemma Magarsa forward and promote Afaan Oromo to its legitimate primary position replacing Amharigna. Oromianist elites like Jawar Mohammed and Marro Diriba are trying to support the Ethiopianists in order to first get rid of the Abyssianists, their ultimate goal, of course, being to foster Oromia instead of Ethiopia..
Read more: https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2020/08/17/xxx/

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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by OPFist » 21 Jan 2022, 16:26

For instance, the main difference between Abiy Ahmed and Jawar Mohammed is that for Abiy Ahmed, Amharigna/Amharanet is to be revered as primary identity of Ethiopia (i.e practically Great Amharia) and Oromiffaa/Oromummaa can be secondary, whereas for Jawar Mohammed Oromiffaa/Oromummaa deserves the respect of legitimately being the primary element of federal Ethiopia (i.e de facto Great Oromia), This difference between the Prosperitan Oromos and Republican Oromos has always been irreconcillable. That is why naftagna Oromo H/Sillasie imprisoned Oromo nationailst Tadesse Biru and Mengistu H/Mariam killed Haile Fida as well as now Abiy Ahmed imprisoned Jawar Mohammed. By all the above mentioned three Oromo leaders, the three Oromo nationalist freedom fighters were accused as terrorists. But, fact on the ground is that the Oromo liberation struggle has defeated the first two Oromo naftagnas and surely will get rid of the third/current one (the Prosperitan). It is the matter of time, surely we will celebrate the inevitable victory of the dedicated Oromo Republican Jawar Mohammed over the already failed Oromo Prosperitan Abiy Ahmed.

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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by OPFist » 21 Jan 2022, 17:14

Oromo national liberation struggle is unique. The Oromo nationals fought always against the Oromo naftagnas, who revere Amharinga and Amharanet instead of giving respect to Oromiffaa and Oromummaa. Most of the past naftagna rulers (Menelik, H/Silassie, Mengistu, Minasie/Abbaa-Duulaa and Meshrefet/Abiy) are Oromo. The Oromo tried to preserve our Oromiffaa and Oromummaa by fighting against such self-hating Oromo rulers. This tendency of self-loathing was a trend in Oromo ruling class since about 3000 years ago. These rulers started to revere, adore and worship Abesha identity because of giving much attention to alien literature and religion. Thus, almost half of the Oromo lost their identity (Oromummaa) and language (Oromiffaa). Instead, they identfy them selves with Amharanet and rever Amharinga, at the same time not giving due respect to Oromiffaa. Therefore, the Oromo struggle has always been against Oromo naftagnas, i.e practically the Oromo against itself. The current struggle against the neo-naftagna led by Meshrefet (Abiy) seems to be the worst as well as most bitter and difficult, because of the Oromo mask they carry.

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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by Abere » 21 Jan 2022, 20:15

Do you know basic arithmetic when you wrote such fabrication of timeline <This tendency of self-loathing was a trend in Oromo ruling class since about 3000 years ago? Anyone who read the history of Oromo migration easily knows that Oromo came to Ethiopia in the 16th century. Oromo were none existent in Ethiopia 2500 years ago. .

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21 Jan 2022, 17:14
Oromo national liberation struggle is unique. The Oromo nationals fought always against the Oromo naftagnas, who revere Amharinga and Amharanet instead of giving respect to Oromiffaa and Oromummaa. Most of the past naftagna rulers (Menelik, H/Silassie, Mengistu, Minasie/Abbaa-Duulaa and Meshrefet/Abiy) are Oromo. The Oromo tried to preserve our Oromiffaa and Oromummaa by fighting against such self-hating Oromo rulers. This tendency of self-loathing was a trend in Oromo ruling class since about 3000 years ago. These rulers started to revere, adore and worship Abesha identity because of giving much attention to alien literature and religion. Thus, almost half of the Oromo lost their identity (Oromummaa) and language (Oromiffaa). Instead, they identfy them selves with Amharanet and rever Amharinga, at the same time not giving due respect to Oromiffaa. Therefore, the Oromo struggle has always been against Oromo naftagnas, i.e practically the Oromo against itself. The current struggle against the neo-naftagna led by Meshrefet (Abiy) seems to be the worst as well as most bitter and difficult, because of the Oromo mask they carry.

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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by sun » 21 Jan 2022, 20:47

OPFist wrote:
21 Jan 2022, 01:51
Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

The power struggle in Ethiopia (Great Oromia) will be mainly between the three camps of Oromo elites; Abyssianists vs Ethiopianists vs Oromianists. It seems the two Habesha blocs (Amhara and Tegaru elites) are done and have gone never to get back the leading political influence in Finfinne palace. But, they may try to use Abyssianist Oromos in order to beat the Ethiopianists and Oromianists. What is the difference between the three types of Oromo elites? Abyssianists like those in OPP are with slave mentality adoring Amharanet instead of respecting Oromumma. Such elites from Yekuno-Amlak to Abiy Ahmed used to rule Ethiopia. That is why I dare to say that biological Oromos always ruled Ethiopia, but Oromumma has never got chance to play its legitimate leadership as an identity of the majotity in the country. Ethiopianists like those in OFC want to democratize Ethiopia in Oromo terms so that it will be de facto Great Oromia. Oromianists like those in the OLF want to either establish Gadaa republic Oromia or change the name of Gadaa democratic Ethiopia to Great Oromia. It is clear that Abyssianist Oromo elites led by Abiy Ahmed are now ruling the country by keeping the domination of Amharanet/Amharigna and suppression of Oromumma/Otomiffa to the second position. It seems Ethiopianist Oromo elites are now trying to bring Lemma Magarsa forward and promote Afaan Oromo to its legitimate primary position replacing Amharigna. Oromianist elites like Jawar Mohammed and Marro Diriba are trying to support the Ethiopianists in order to first get rid of the Abyssianists, their ultimate goal, of course, being to foster Oromia instead of Ethiopia..
Read more: https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2020/08/17/xxx/
Seen from your endless chanting you seem to be just a pathological divisive extremist bum type singing the same sterile out of date old songs and chants just like some of these pathological divisive amara extremists. The existence of your divisive opinion is only because of the divisive existence of the amara extremist because both of you are just two sides of the same rusty Coin who live in the long medieval past and want to go back to the Cave era. :lol: :lol:

Because you can't do any thing practical and useful you just sit in your ivory tower and trying your best to preach your venom and divide hard working Oromos so that they may fight for power against each other and open the door for you for fulfilling your substandard cheap greed for power. Why don't you join the Orthodox church so that you may have ample time for your endless Qarartos and endless sterile chanting sessions of no practical values other than inflaming divisions among the Oromos and helping your amara extremists who behave just like yourself but in the opposite direction. Get up and get life to do some real constructive activities which benefits the people instead of your constant slave mentality. ETHIOPIA IS OROMIYYA and OROMIYYA IS ETHIOPIA! Bingo!
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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by OPFist » 21 Jan 2022, 23:31

All the previous naftagnas were explicitly against the Oromo national liberation movement, thus, it was easy to mobilize all freedom loving Oromo against them. But Abiy and co claim to be pro-bilisummaa/freedom and accordingly decieved certain part of Oromo nationalists and of course, also get support of all naftagna minded others. As far as I am concerned, only the support Abiy gets from the naftagna camp is enough to help me be against his regime. Naftagnas know very well what to do. They bless us, when we serve their interest of domination and curse us when they see in us genuine Oromo liberator. That is why, they now bless Abiy and curse Jawar. As Ob. Leencoo Lataa once said, any Oromo nationalist should take heed, when ever the naftagna camp support her/him. It is a very good indicator that such Oromo nationalist is against Oromo national interest, but serving the oppressive cause of Oromo naftagnas.

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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by OPFist » 22 Jan 2022, 03:25

Otherwise, we know that there were a lot of colonized or dominated nations in the globe. All wanted to be liberated from the subjugation and demanded their right to self determination. There are five types of such nations and the Oromo were unique having our own situation not shared by any other nation in the world. The five groups are:

2. minority nations at the periphery dominated by the centeral power; e.g Eritrea, South Sudan, Kosovo, East Timor, Ogaden…etc. The required self-determination was defined as having referendum on: ‘an independence from the political center’ vs ‘a post freedom political union with the center’. Ob. Dawud Ibsa’s OLF is following this approach. But is Oromia at periphery not to affect the self-determination right of others by excercising ist own. North Ethiopia and South Ethiopia will be separated without their free will just if the Oromo decide for our independence.

3. minority nations at the center under domination of another nation; e.g the Gurage, Harari, Hadiya, Kambata…etc. For such nations, the good solution is internal self-determination within a union by getting rid of the system of domination and achieving self-rule within shared rule, without necessary referendum. The ODF of Ob. Leencoo Lataa wanted to apply such solution. But are the Oromo such minority at the center?

4. major nation with dominating culture being exploited and oppressed by its own internal dictators and tyrants. Such nations struggle to get rid of their own subjugators, thus concentrate more on freedom struggle in a sense of dismantling the system and replace it with possibly democratic and just rule for all peoples in the country without considering the right of nations to self-determination, be it external or internal. The Ezema of Ob. Andargachew Tsige (also an Oromo) being influenced by the Amhara elites with dominating culture and language in the country belongs here. But does this serve the interest of the Oromo nation with dominated culture and language?

5. major nation at the center or all over the country being dominated by smaller neighbouring Nation; the Oromo is in such condition. There is no such big nation, where the political center is its own center, but politically marginalized and colonized in the world; the Oromo must be the only one. Such unique situation requires unique solution. The above four approaches are not optimal. The optimal approach here should be to liberate the center (Caffee Araaraa of Finfinne) and overtake the state machinary in order to transform the empire into a union; if necessary changing flag of the federation, working language of the union and name of the country. Then the Oromo can allow others to have their self-determination in above three ways. The Oromo should act as future giver of those rights, not as reciever from the minor nations, be it from the Amhara of Bahirdar or Tegaru of Maqale. Now we are already in such position.

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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by OPFist » 22 Jan 2022, 05:19

Oromo Naftagnas are literally against such FADOB principle of Oromo nation. They are against our freedom; they disrespect Afaan Oromo; they are dictators, they reject Oromia with pretext of loving Ethiopia and the don’t accept Oromo’ traditional tricolor of Kush. In short, Oromo naftagna and Oromo nation were/are anti-thesis to each other and the current bitter struggle is between Oromo naftagnas led by Abiy and Oromo nationals led by Jawar. May Waaqa help our genuine nationals get victory over our neo-naftagnas!

Galatooma!

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Re: Abyssianist Abiy Ahmed vs Ethiopianist Lemma Magarsa vs Oromianist Jawar Mohammad?

Post by Abere » 22 Jan 2022, 12:18

Another fabrication and lyric of oroommummaa reads like this: <.. don’t accept Oromo’ traditional tricolor of Kush.> This simply comes from lack of self-confidence. Lack of self-confidence forces one to clothed with some ones else personality. The ethnic Oromo does not belong to the Cushitic linguistic family. Here are the linguistic families currently in Ethiopia

1) Cushitic - ( Somalia, Afar and Agew, the larger groups)
2) Semitic - ( Amhara, Guraghe, Adere, Tigre)
3) Omotic - ( Gamo-Gofa,Welaytta ,Kefa, the largest ones)
4) Nilotic - (Gumuz, Gumuz, Berta, Anuak, Kunama, the largest ones)
5) Bantu - (Oromo: Borana/Guttuu/, Barento)


These are the five distinct groups of linguistic families. Oromo does not belong to the Cushitic family. For instance, the Somali people in ancient time considered Oromo some one who came from the south of the Bantu tribe. As a result Somali people used to trade Oromos as slaves to Arab merchants. That is history, Somali people were selling off Bantu people as slave in the gulf. Whereas this generation curses Emperor Menelik who freed them from slavery. Read history to build self-confidence. There is no wrong to be Bantu, but there is something wrong to evade ones origin and dressed with some one else origin.


OPFist wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 05:19
Oromo Naftagnas are literally against such FADOB principle of Oromo nation. They are against our freedom; they disrespect Afaan Oromo; they are dictators, they reject Oromia with pretext of loving Ethiopia and the don’t accept Oromo’ traditional tricolor of Kush. In short, Oromo naftagna and Oromo nation were/are anti-thesis to each other and the current bitter struggle is between Oromo naftagnas led by Abiy and Oromo nationals led by Jawar. May Waaqa help our genuine nationals get victory over our neo-naftagnas!

Galatooma!

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