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Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to attack?

Post by Axumezana » 19 Jan 2022, 18:09

- The Ottoman empire/Turkey violated the directive of Mohammed several times against Ethiopia and now against Tigray.

- United Arab Emirates is currently getting bombarded by similar drones that it used against Tigray and down the line we are going to see it's economic collapse as the world stops using oil as energy source.

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know it's drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to attac

Post by Temt » 19 Jan 2022, 18:23

Axumezana wrote:
19 Jan 2022, 18:09
- The Ottoman empire/Turkey violated the directive of Mohammed several times against Ethiopia and now against Tigray.

- United Arab Emirates is currently getting bombarded by similar drones that it used against Tigray and down the line we are going to see it's economic collapse as the world stops using oil as energy source.
Yes, but the Turks and UAE know the difference between Habesha and the evil Agames! Any more questions? :roll: :roll:

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by Hayal_Bahrigna » 20 Jan 2022, 02:43

Yeah they know that, this is why they are not bombing Eritrea. so Did Ahmed Gragn when he destroyed Tigray and axum, it was suggested to him to cross the mereb and attack Eritrea which he replied " the prophet told us not to attack them and let them be, they protected his family and his companions ". Sahaba Migration was to Debarwa not Axum.

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by Axumezana » 20 Jan 2022, 03:53

I know my friends in Eritrea( the name as a country that existed only for one century ) have been trying to make your own fake history. See you soon in Asmara that was established by Ras Alula.

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by kerenite » 20 Jan 2022, 15:08

Hayal_Bahrigna wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 02:43
Yeah they know that, this is why they are not bombing Eritrea. so Did Ahmed Gragn when he destroyed Tigray and axum, it was suggested to him to cross the mereb and attack Eritrea which he replied " the prophet told us not to attack them and let them be, they protected his family and his companions ". Sahaba Migration was to Debarwa not Axum.
Greetings hayal b.

Just a historical correction with due respect. Prophet mohamed (pbuh) sahaba or his companions who sought refuge in abissinia were close family members to him. Amongst them was his daughter sittina Rokia along with her husband Othman bin Affan who later became the third Calif. They were in total about 32 refugees.

Yes according to historians and hadis of the prophet, they reached abyssinia. Prior to their departure, the prophet told them that in abysinia there is a righteous king called negashi, well loved by his people and he will welcome them with open arms and that is what the negashi did.

During that period of time, axum was the center of abissinia.

Regarding Debarwa and Ahmed gragn, there was no such thing as debarwa in the 6th century (perhaps it appeared in the 15th century) Yes ahmed gragn occupied the then debarwa in the first half of the 16th century after defeating the then abyssinian king libnedingil but did not pillage it or burn it.

Ready to learn if you have other historical facts.

Cheers!

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by Abe Abraham » 20 Jan 2022, 15:48

ዛግርን ድባርዋን ዝበሃላ ዓድታት ሃገርና ኣዝየን ጥንታውያን እየን ። ኣብ ሃገርና ክርስትና ክኣቱ እንከሎ ኮፍ ኢለን ተቐቢለንኦ። ባሕረ-ነጋሲ ዝበሃል ማዕርግ ድማ ኤርትራዊ እዩ ። ኢራናውያን ኾስሮ ዝበሃል ኔርዎም ንሕና ድማ ባሕረ-ነጋሲ ። ንቀዳሞት ስደተኛታት መእምናን ምስልምና ካብ ሓውሲ ደሴት ዓረብ ዝተቐበለ ማለት እዩ ።

ውሩይ ሱዳናዊ ናይ ቋንቋ ዓረብ ምሁር ፕሮፈሰር ዓብደላ ኣ(ል)-ጠይብ ነቲ ዘኹርዕ ታሪኽ ናይ ጥንታዊት ድባርዋ ዘ-ምድረ ሓማሴን ስለ ዝሃረፎ እቶም ስደተኛታት ናብ ሱዳን እዮም ወሪዶም ዝነበሩ ዝብል ትርጉም ዘይብሉ ኣጭበርባሪ ዘረባ ተዛሪቡ ኔሩ ። እቶም ስደተኛታት ኣብ መሬትና ወሪዶምስ ክምለሱ እንከለዉ ገለ ከም በዓል " መጽሓፍ " ዝኣመሰሉ ቃላት ሃገርና ናብ ዓዶም ሰኒቖም ተመሊሶም* ። ሕጂ ተኸተልቲ ምስልምና ኣል-ሙስሓፍ ኣ(ል)-ሸሪፍ ክብሉ እንከለዉ ነቲ ታሪኻዊ ሓቅን ምስ ሃገርና ዘለዎም ታሪኻዊ ምትእስሳርን የስምሩሉ ።





* ገለ ኣብ ዝሓለፈ 15 ዓመታት ኣብ ሪያድ ሱዑዲያ ዝተረኽቡ ጥንታውያን ጽሑፋት ገለ ካብ እቶም ናብ ሃገርና ተሰዲዶም ዝመጽኡ ደቂ ዓረብ ብዝተገብረሎም ኣቀባብላን ስብኣውነትን ተመሲጦም ኣብ ሃገርና ተሪፎም ኣብ ድምበዛን ሓማሴን ከም ዝሰፈሩ ይዛረቡ ።


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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by EthioRedSea » 20 Jan 2022, 18:27

Eritrea is a collection of districts taken away from Tigray by Menelik and given to Italy in 1890 through The Wuchale Treaty. Tigray should take back it's own districts and integrate it. the Red Sea hould under Tigrigna speakers. Ras Allula was the governer of all districts in Eritrea and was appointed by emperor Yohannes IV.
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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by Cigar » 20 Jan 2022, 18:33

Stop bringing too many old freaking history about be it Eritrea or agames wishful connections to it, if there were any to begin with.
All we know at this current period is that Eritrea is a UN member sovereign nation and Tigray is the least important jillion of Ethiopia. Destroyed and 100 years backwards turned back beggar and cursed Ethiopian region.
We explained Erireanism numerous times. It doesn’t matter where it got its name, how it came to be.
Trying to get closer to Eritrea by Jesus time period is not going to change a [deleted]. The Soviet Union had 26 republics too at one point. But that didn’t stop the 26 republics to be sovereign nations and none of them are begging the other to be in one another’s fold because of past crap.
Only the fun fun at , pride-less and dignity less agames due to their inadequacy make lame excuses to XIGI’E XIGI’E to Eritreanism.
We are laser focus to now and the future.
Our past be it good or bad is gone.

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by Hayal_Bahrigna » 21 Jan 2022, 23:57

kerenite wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 15:08
Hayal_Bahrigna wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 02:43
Yeah they know that, this is why they are not bombing Eritrea. so Did Ahmed Gragn when he destroyed Tigray and axum, it was suggested to him to cross the mereb and attack Eritrea which he replied " the prophet told us not to attack them and let them be, they protected his family and his companions ". Sahaba Migration was to Debarwa not Axum.
Greetings hayal b.

Just a historical correction with due respect. Prophet mohamed (pbuh) sahaba or his companions who sought refuge in abissinia were close family members to him. Amongst them was his daughter sittina Rokia along with her husband Othman bin Affan who later became the third Calif. They were in total about 32 refugees.

Yes according to historians and hadis of the prophet, they reached abyssinia. Prior to their departure, the prophet told them that in abysinia there is a righteous king called negashi, well loved by his people and he will welcome them with open arms and that is what the negashi did.

During that period of time, axum was the center of abissinia.

Regarding Debarwa and Ahmed gragn, there was no such thing as debarwa in the 6th century (perhaps it appeared in the 15th century) Yes ahmed gragn occupied the then debarwa in the first half of the 16th century after defeating the then abyssinian king libnedingil but did not pillage it or burn it.

Ready to learn if you have other historical facts.

Cheers!
Hello kerenite,

Unfortunately your information is incorrect.

The Sahaba migration broken into 3 waves was sent into what was called then as the Sea kingdom under the Bahri negshia who resided in Debarwa not Axum, The first wave headed by Uthman Bin afan RA from the Port of Shoaib south of today jeddah to massawa followed by 2 more migration to the port of Zula and tracking to Debarwa. as you know 7th century Horn was broken into many kingdoms in the horn, this was the height of eritrean-Beja confiderency ( 5 kingodms alliance ). they resided in total 16 years in debarwa before returning, The prophet of islam first cousin is also buried around the town of today debarwa.

In regards to Ahmed gragn also known as Ahmed The belew by the Axumite Priests because his ancestory is from the coastal town of Tio/Zula before his parents moving to what is called Adal region led the invasion of Axum and destroyed that big stalae, he never crossed the mereb into debarwa but was suggested to him by one of his Somali commanders in the 16th century.

There is many Sahaba hadith narrations and few from Aisha RA about the migration which clearly shows the migration was to Debarwa and not Axum, If you ask a lot of the Arab religious scholars they would also tell you it was to Eritrea today and not Axum due to their information and narrations provided by those who made the Migration. Islam dod not enter Tigray Till the 17th century according to all the evidence and information, when Ahmed Gragn entered Tigray to invade he said there was no mosque or muslims in the Tigray region.

Things like The negsahi full name, his father name, his clan etc just gives it away since the same clan/tribe name still lives today in Eritrea, Negashi record in the church in debarwa matches what's in the narration, ( the king list for axum doesn't even have that name as their king during that time it was a different name ).

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by Hayal_Bahrigna » 22 Jan 2022, 00:07

EthioRedSea wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 18:27
Eritrea is a collection of districts taken away from Tigray by Menelik and given to Italy in 1890 through The Wuchale Treaty. Tigray should take back it's own districts and integrate it. the Red Sea hould under Tigrigna speakers. Ras Allula was the governer of all districts in Eritrea and was appointed by emperor Yohannes IV.
Why you only go back 100 years or so? we talking about going back 1500 years. there was no Tigray, there was the 5+1 kingdoms in that area. the 5 beja confiderency AKA Old Eritrea and the isolated axum kingdom on peace treaty with the eritrean kingdoms to access the sea, once they were defeated in the 7th century the only histiory for Axum + tigrayans and amahara is wars and expansions south of axum against Agews and oromos, the northern territory and access to the sea was blocked for almost 1000 years. You never hear axum from the 7th century till the Portuguese arrive in the 16th century doing anything, they were put to sleep because the sea access was blocked for them through Eritrea.

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Re: Do Turkey & United Arab Emirates know their drones are killing the Habesha that Mohammed directed them never to atta

Post by kerenite » 22 Jan 2022, 16:09

Hayal_Bahrigna wrote:
21 Jan 2022, 23:57
kerenite wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 15:08
Hayal_Bahrigna wrote:
20 Jan 2022, 02:43
Yeah they know that, this is why they are not bombing Eritrea. so Did Ahmed Gragn when he destroyed Tigray and axum, it was suggested to him to cross the mereb and attack Eritrea which he replied " the prophet told us not to attack them and let them be, they protected his family and his companions ". Sahaba Migration was to Debarwa not Axum.
Greetings hayal b.

Just a historical correction with due respect. Prophet mohamed (pbuh) sahaba or his companions who sought refuge in abissinia were close family members to him. Amongst them was his daughter sittina Rokia along with her husband Othman bin Affan who later became the third Calif. They were in total about 32 refugees.

Yes according to historians and hadis of the prophet, they reached abyssinia. Prior to their departure, the prophet told them that in abysinia there is a righteous king called negashi, well loved by his people and he will welcome them with open arms and that is what the negashi did.

During that period of time, axum was the center of abissinia.

Regarding Debarwa and Ahmed gragn, there was no such thing as debarwa in the 6th century (perhaps it appeared in the 15th century) Yes ahmed gragn occupied the then debarwa in the first half of the 16th century after defeating the then abyssinian king libnedingil but did not pillage it or burn it.

Ready to learn if you have other historical facts.

Cheers!
Hello kerenite,

Unfortunately your information is incorrect.

The Sahaba migration broken into 3 waves was sent into what was called then as the Sea kingdom under the Bahri negshia who resided in Debarwa not Axum, The first wave headed by Uthman Bin afan RA from the Port of Shoaib south of today jeddah to massawa followed by 2 more migration to the port of Zula and tracking to Debarwa. as you know 7th century Horn was broken into many kingdoms in the horn, this was the height of eritrean-Beja confiderency ( 5 kingodms alliance ). they resided in total 16 years in debarwa before returning, The prophet of islam first cousin is also buried around the town of today debarwa.

In regards to Ahmed gragn also known as Ahmed The belew by the Axumite Priests because his ancestory is from the coastal town of Tio/Zula before his parents moving to what is called Adal region led the invasion of Axum and destroyed that big stalae, he never crossed the mereb into debarwa but was suggested to him by one of his Somali commanders in the 16th century.

There is many Sahaba hadith narrations and few from Aisha RA about the migration which clearly shows the migration was to Debarwa and not Axum, If you ask a lot of the Arab religious scholars they would also tell you it was to Eritrea today and not Axum due to their information and narrations provided by those who made the Migration. Islam dod not enter Tigray Till the 17th century according to all the evidence and information, when Ahmed Gragn entered Tigray to invade he said there was no mosque or muslims in the Tigray region.

Things like The negsahi full name, his father name, his clan etc just gives it away since the same clan/tribe name still lives today in Eritrea, Negashi record in the church in debarwa matches what's in the narration, ( the king list for axum doesn't even have that name as their king during that time it was a different name ).
Merhaba ustaz hayal b.

I have learned some historical facts from your input.

But there are issues which beg historical facts. For instance let me concentrate on the era of ahmed gragn. The famous egyptian fekih areb was a war chronicler and he accompnied ahmed gragn in all the wars he waged in abyssinia and authored a book titled "futuhat alhabesha" or something to that effect. His book was translated into french by the french Arno in the beginning of the 20th century. The famous ethiopian historian ato tekle tsadiq mekuria quotes constantly fekih areb in his book titled "ye ahmed gragn werera".

I read the book of the war chronicler who was a live witness. In his book he mentions, when imam ahmed ibn ibrahim algazi aka ahmed gragn was persecuting the fleeing abyssinia negus libne dengil, he said, we reached a place called debre damo. Here there is a temple called abuna aragawi and it is located in an impregnable rocky hill. In order to climb to it you need thick ropes and somebody should pull you up.The imam was determined to capture ngus libne dingil who was hiding in that temple. 2 days later the imam gave up and he ordered his troops to march northwards. His troops arrived at a central town called dabarwa. Here the imam was welcomed with open arms, women ululating, men beating big drums and blowing flutes.

To make the story short, he did reach debarwa according to the war chronicler who accompanied him.

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