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US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Revelations » 10 Jan 2022, 13:41

When Sudan can not hold it together...



And I don't understand why Getachew Reda complains as the TPLF has been threatening Eritrea for a while.


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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 10 Jan 2022, 13:54

This is the most crucial development. So many questions to ask knowing the transactional politics of the US. What is Ethiopia giving up to have this one little phone call from Biden? Who is thrown under the bus? This move might anger China and Russia if the give by Ethio is against the interests of these crucial friends. How about the ramification against the relationship with Eritrea? I am not even touching the complications this might have created in the internal political dynamism and the ongoing TPLF war.

The guy seems to be in haste to return back to his building career. We should all be bracing ourselves to the rude awakening that is unravelling in the coming few days. God help the people of the HOA. :|

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by tolcha » 10 Jan 2022, 13:58

Nefxegna is a loser as always, getting to the bottom deep Shi’it !!

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by kibramlak » 10 Jan 2022, 14:08

Apparently, Abiy was so desperate to have Biden's call. This hollow should never be trusted. We all know that Russia and China fought to stop UN intervention in Ethiopia but you see, as he backstabbed and betrayed Ethiopians, especially Afar and Amhara, he might have done the same to Russia and China., and worst to Eritrea as well.

ውሻ አሳዳጊውን አይረሳም ይባላል፣ አብይ አሳዳጊውን ትህነግን አልረሳም፣፣
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 13:54
This is the most crucial development. So many questions to ask knowing the transactional politics of the US. What is Ethiopia giving up to have this one little phone call from Biden? Who is thrown under the bus? This move might anger China and Russia if the give by Ethio is against the interests of these crucial friends. How about the ramification against the relationship with Eritrea? I am not even touching the complications this might have created in the internal political dynamism and the ongoing TPLF war.

The guy seems to be in haste to return back to his building career. We should all be bracing ourselves to the rude awakening that is unravelling in the coming few days. God help the people of the HOA. :|

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Revelations » 10 Jan 2022, 14:38

Sadly he took this to mean a win in the war front. He's so excited with this development he totally dismissed the heavy price paid and still being paid by many. it was for reasons like this we called him ጨቅላ!

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 13:54
This is the most crucial development. So many questions to ask knowing the transactional politics of the US. What is Ethiopia giving up to have this one little phone call from Biden? Who is thrown under the bus? This move might anger China and Russia if the give by Ethio is against the interests of these crucial friends. How about the ramification against the relationship with Eritrea? I am not even touching the complications this might have created in the internal political dynamism and the ongoing TPLF war.

The guy seems to be in haste to return back to his building career. We should all be bracing ourselves to the rude awakening that is unravelling in the coming few days. God help the people of the HOA. :|

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Dawi » 10 Jan 2022, 14:59

kibramlak wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:08
Apparently, Abiy was so desperate to have Biden's call. This hollow should never be trusted. We all know that Russia and China fought to stop UN intervention in Ethiopia but you see, as he backstabbed and betrayed Ethiopians, especially Afar and Amhara, he might have done the same to Russia and China., and worst to Eritrea as well.

ውሻ አሳዳጊውን አይረሳም ይባላል፣ አብይ አሳዳጊውን ትህነግን አልረሳም፣፣
Kibra,

China & Russia aren't willing to bail Abiy out of economic crises; can't afford or aren't willing to do that. They expect him to make all possible reconciliation with the West without jeopardizing China's investment in his country. That is a given policy of China for a long time as we know it; don't be fooled by China supporting you in stopping UN intervention; that doesn't cost anything. Remember, Russia does what she can to avoid US sanctions. US Sanction is agonizing to any country so, it is something to avoid if you can, no country wants it.

If releasing the old goat Sebhat & Co. helps reverse some additional sanctions against Abiy, so be it; release them to avoid additional sanctions if you ask me.
Revelations wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:38
Sadly he took this to mean a win in the war front. He's so excited with this development he totally dismissed the heavy price paid and still being paid by many. it was for reasons like this we called him ጨቅላ!
What? Abiy don't have some strange ideology that goes against the US. So, if doing fluffy stuff like releasing useless old terrorists' makes a face saving with Biden, makes the dude to call him and some sanctions are avoided because of that, costless maneuver, is a win win.

"ጨቅላ" are those who assume releasing retired old goats as synonymous with Woyane. Not!
The fact is these guys can be put back to jail if they don't behave or the program of stopping "sanctions" don't work. ha! ha!
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 13:54
This is the most crucial development. So many questions to ask knowing the transactional politics of the US. What is Ethiopia giving up to have this one little phone call from Biden? Who is thrown under the bus? This move might anger China and Russia if the give by Ethio is against the interests of these crucial friends. How about the ramification against the relationship with Eritrea? I am not even touching the complications this might have created in the internal political dynamism and the ongoing TPLF war.

The guy seems to be in haste to return back to his building career. We should all be bracing ourselves to the rude awakening that is unravelling in the coming few days. God help the people of the HOA. :|
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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by DefendTheTruth » 10 Jan 2022, 15:00

The question is now what the fate of the taxi-drivers will going to be, who gave up the lucrative jobs in order to prepare themselves for positions in the transitional and provisional or what ever forms of government?

Yes, they are ጨቅላ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by kibramlak » 10 Jan 2022, 15:24

Dawi,

Releasing Sibhat & Co is not just releasing retired individuals as you you seemed minimizing the matter. Beside being untried criminals with many other things said by many people, the old man is said to unlock Effort to the service of TPLF, which means to buy arms and kill civilians. Abiy played on the lives of civilians who never regretted. So, it won't be Abiy's business if tplf re-arm itself and make other devastations. Have you ever thought of the consequences of releasing the criminals? It is also surprising to hear someone minimizing the contributions of China and Russia at the UNSC.

አንድ ሰው ጨቅላ ወይም እንጭጭ አስተሳሰብ ከሌለው በስተቀር እንደዚህ ወቅቱን ያልጠበቀ እና ፍርድ ያጓደለ ውሳኔ እይወስንም፣፣ ደግሞስ በኢትዮጵያ ጉዳይ ከምደራደር አንገቴን እሰጣለሁ ያለው ኢትዮጵያን በአንድ የስልክ ጥሪ ተደራደረባት አይደል፣፣ ውሸታም ሴረኛ ጨቅላ መባል እንዳውም ሲበዛበት ነው፣፣

Dawi wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:59
kibramlak wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:08
Apparently, Abiy was so desperate to have Biden's call. This hollow should never be trusted. We all know that Russia and China fought to stop UN intervention in Ethiopia but you see, as he backstabbed and betrayed Ethiopians, especially Afar and Amhara, he might have done the same to Russia and China., and worst to Eritrea as well.

ውሻ አሳዳጊውን አይረሳም ይባላል፣ አብይ አሳዳጊውን ትህነግን አልረሳም፣፣
Kibra,

China & Russia aren't willing to bail Abiy out of economic crises; can't afford or aren't willing to do that. They expect him to make all possible reconciliation with the West without jeopardizing China's investment in his country. That is a given policy of China for a long time as we know it; don't be fooled by China supporting you in stopping UN intervention; that doesn't cost anything. Remember, Russia does what she can to avoid US sanctions. US Sanction is agonizing to any country so, it is something to avoid if you can, no country wants it.

If releasing the old goat Sebhat & Co. helps reverse some additional sanctions against Abiy, so be it; release them to avoid additional sanctions if you ask me.
Revelations wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:38
Sadly he took this to mean a win in the war front. He's so excited with this development he totally dismissed the heavy price paid and still being paid by many. it was for reasons like this we called him ጨቅላ!
What? Abiy don't have some strange ideology that goes against the US. So, if doing fluffy stuff like releasing useless old terrorists' makes a face saving with Biden, makes the dude to call him and some sanctions are avoided because of that, costless maneuver, is a win win.

"ጨቅላ" are those who assume releasing retired old goats as synonymous with Woyane. Not!
The fact is these guys can be put back to jail if they don't behave or the program of stopping "sanctions" don't work. ha! ha!
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 13:54
This is the most crucial development. So many questions to ask knowing the transactional politics of the US. What is Ethiopia giving up to have this one little phone call from Biden? Who is thrown under the bus? This move might anger China and Russia if the give by Ethio is against the interests of these crucial friends. How about the ramification against the relationship with Eritrea? I am not even touching the complications this might have created in the internal political dynamism and the ongoing TPLF war.

The guy seems to be in haste to return back to his building career. We should all be bracing ourselves to the rude awakening that is unravelling in the coming few days. God help the people of the HOA. :|
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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 10 Jan 2022, 15:26

Dawi wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:59
kibramlak wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:08
Apparently, Abiy was so desperate to have Biden's call. This hollow should never be trusted. We all know that Russia and China fought to stop UN intervention in Ethiopia but you see, as he backstabbed and betrayed Ethiopians, especially Afar and Amhara, he might have done the same to Russia and China., and worst to Eritrea as well.

ውሻ አሳዳጊውን አይረሳም ይባላል፣ አብይ አሳዳጊውን ትህነግን አልረሳም፣፣
Kibra,

China & Russia aren't willing to bail Abiy out of economic crises; can't afford or aren't willing to do that. They expect him to make all possible reconciliation with the West without jeopardizing China's investment in his country. That is a given policy of China for a long time as we know it; don't be fooled by China supporting you in stopping UN intervention; that doesn't cost anything. Remember, Russia does what she can to avoid US sanctions. US Sanction is agonizing to any country so, it is something to avoid if you can, no country wants it.

If releasing the old goat Sebhat & Co. helps reverse some additional sanctions against Abiy, so be it; release them to avoid additional sanctions if you ask me.
Revelations wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 14:38
Sadly he took this to mean a win in the war front. He's so excited with this development he totally dismissed the heavy price paid and still being paid by many. it was for reasons like this we called him ጨቅላ!
What? Abiy don't have some strange ideology that goes against the US. So, if doing fluffy stuff like releasing useless old terrorists' makes a face saving with Biden, makes the dude to call him and some sanctions are avoided because of that, costless maneuver, is a win win.

"ጨቅላ" are those who assume releasing retired old goats as synonymous with Woyane. Not!
The fact is these guys can be put back to jail if they don't behave or the program of stopping "sanctions" don't work. ha! ha!
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 13:54
This is the most crucial development. So many questions to ask knowing the transactional politics of the US. What is Ethiopia giving up to have this one little phone call from Biden? Who is thrown under the bus? This move might anger China and Russia if the give by Ethio is against the interests of these crucial friends. How about the ramification against the relationship with Eritrea? I am not even touching the complications this might have created in the internal political dynamism and the ongoing TPLF war.

The guy seems to be in haste to return back to his building career. We should all be bracing ourselves to the rude awakening that is unravelling in the coming few days. God help the people of the HOA. :|
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The largest forex source for the country is remittance from the diaspora. The US has used its only last leverage against Ethiopia by removing the country from AGOA. The only thing now remaining is their handouts of wheat which, for the most part flows to the TPLF controlled region. If we are to assume that all the pressure from US is about saving TPLF, I should agree that releasing the Dons of TPLF is a goal in itself. This also lends it self to the presumption that it ain't the US interest that is driving the state department policies currently but the interests of some individuals who are part of the terror group's worldwide network of beneficiaries.

If we are to assume that the Chinese are only interested in saving their already invested economic benefits in the country and there by would be happy if Ethio agrees to the terms of the US, I have yet to know about what strategic interests are and the benefits of China appointing a special envoy to the region.

In all of these, what I always am intrigued by is why the US preferred TPLF to be its strategic partner than OLF. I do think that they both are ideological buddies but one is a has been and the other is is. :mrgreen:

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Wedi » 10 Jan 2022, 15:31

#No More movement sent to trash Bins by Adwa born and Galla Abiy Ahmed!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Educator » 10 Jan 2022, 15:41

Who was the translator?
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10 Jan 2022, 13:41

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Dawi » 10 Jan 2022, 16:06

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
10 Jan 2022, 15:26
The largest forex source for the country is remittance from the diaspora. The US has used its only last leverage against Ethiopia by removing the country from AGOA. The only thing now remaining is their handouts of wheat which, for the most part flows to the TPLF controlled region. If we are to assume that all the pressure from US is about saving TPLF, I should agree that releasing the Dons of TPLF is a goal in itself. This also lends it self to the presumption that it ain't the US interest that is driving the state department policies currently but the interests of some individuals who are part of the terror group's worldwide network of beneficiaries.

If we are to assume that the Chinese are only interested in saving their already invested economic benefits in the country and there by would be happy if Ethio agrees to the terms of the US, I have yet to know about what strategic interests are and the benefits of China appointing a special envoy to the region.

In all of these, what I always am intrigued by is why the US preferred TPLF to be its strategic partner than OLF. I do think that they both are ideological buddies but one is a has been and the other is is.
Za,

AGOA is the tip of the iceberg. They can create obstacles to remittance; IMF, WB, other bilateral assistances which can amount to a billion loss is under US hands.

China is interested in more but, can only do so much to help, won't bail you out if you economically collapse with your own stupidity. So, it's up to you to stay afloat while pursuing, more or less in line with China and Russia world view. They understand that you need to do what you have to do to stay in business. They do it themselves but, have better leverage than us.

Let us not exaggerate US's love of dead bit TPLF; p2 can play it the right way without selling out like anybody else. Even China compromises & plays the game to keep her trade with US. We can do same.

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Re: US Prez Joe #Biden holds call with #Ethiopia’s PM Abiy Ahmed AND..

Post by Revelations » 10 Jan 2022, 20:02

የጦር ምርኮኛና የፖለቲካ እስረኛን አንድ ላይ የመጨፍለቁ ጉዳይ የጨቅላው ጭንቅላት እንጭጭ መሆኑን ያሳያል::




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