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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Fed_Up » 16 Oct 2021, 20:09

Blueshift wrote:
16 Oct 2021, 18:25
Big Break,

You are very very wrong. Why should tiny Djibouti surrender its sovereignty to humongous Ethiopia ? Ethiopia has 110 million population. You think Ethiopians would treat Djibouti as an equal ? I am beginning to think that your are Ethiopian. Third world countries tend to disrespect countries that are smaller than they are. That is inviting an abusive boyfriend to be the husband. Let the Gorillas learn to run their house hold first. Why is Denmark independent of Norway and Sweden. There is a very good reason behind it. How about Canada and USA. These countries are candidates for that. The nig---gars are still in the jungle. Look how Ethios are treating their very own country men, namely the Tigrayans, How about the Ruwanda saga ?
Ayeeee neger agameee

እኛ እያለን ኤርትራዊ ነኝ ብለሽ በኤርትራ ስም ኣናስነግድሽም:: ዝም ብለሽ ተንከባለይ:: ቅንዳሻም አህያ አጋስስ አጋሜ

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Blueshift » 16 Oct 2021, 20:19

Old Fedup has no Tigrigna. He had served the Derg army in Eritrea thirty five years ago. He is a donkey who pretends to be Eritrean. Evidence,
He can't speak Tigrigna. Old Feddy, how is your very old donkey you call wiffy ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
The donkey wrote,
Ayeeee neger agameee

እኛ እያለን ኤርትራዊ ነኝ ብለሽ በኤርትራ ስም ኣናስነግድሽም:: ዝም ብለሽ ተንከባለይ:: ቅንዳሻም አህያ አጋስስ አጋሜ
:lol: Fa--g--ot Feddy, Agame speaks Tigrigna. He is also closer to Eritrea. Agame is fighting for his life. What is your beef with agame, donkey ? :lol: :lol: That excuse won't work anymore. Shyyyty head. Every one knows where this is going. The Derg remnant, the like of you, Tarik and Abraham is over. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Blueshift » 16 Oct 2021, 20:31

So called Eritrea wrote to Horsee,
Since, we have been going through such a cycle for quite some time, we have to wait with political integration that requires deeper trust and work instead with economic and free movement of people and products between countries. Only that will act as a catalyst to accelerate more cooperation and development in different parts of life over time.
Wait for political integration ? ? :roll: another adgi, pretending to be Eritrean ? Wholly sh-it, this is crazy. Listen ni-gga , there won't be political integration. 3.5 million pop has no business integrating politically with 110 million people. Tens of Thousands of young Eritreans, have died for the so called independence to be a reality. This damn is very crazy. :twisted: Shyyyt head.
What a betrayal !!!!!!

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Follower » 16 Oct 2021, 20:32

Blueshift wrote:
16 Oct 2021, 18:46


Within even small countries, like Eritrea for instance, there is a lot of division. But, it is subdued. 
Look at this evil agame, what divisions are there among Eritreans back home?or do you consider the evil diaspora agames who poses as Eritreans and shout akele seraye etc represent Eritreans?ዱሁል ዓጋመ፡the more you open your filthy agame mouth the more you expose your agamenet.ለክባጥ ዓጋመ።

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Horus » 16 Oct 2021, 23:13

A better guide for all of us elites of the region to consider is the historical trends, population, political, economic, social and cultural interaction of Ethiopians, Eritreans, Sudanese, Somalis and Djiboutians. In fact Ethiopia is becoming a melting pot of these peoples. We now have inter-migration within these countries. And, economic inter-actions are more powerful than abstract political dialogues. So, my point is that the historical trajectory and unstopable trend is toward more interaction, mixing, cooperation and integration between and among the various peoples of the Horn. Intelligent leaders will appreciate, build on and guide these grass root natural development. The Horn alliance is an example of such leadership.

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by gearhead » 16 Oct 2021, 23:42

አንሶላውን መሀረብ ነው ብለው ክችች የሚሉት ጉራጌ ሱቅ በደረቴዎች ትዝ አሉኝ!!Disdained, shunned;gradually fade into background clunker!

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Horus » 17 Oct 2021, 00:05

gearhead wrote:
16 Oct 2021, 23:42
አንሶላውን መሀረብ ነው ብለው ክችች የሚሉት ጉራጌ ሱቅ በደረቴዎች ትዝ አሉኝ!!Disdained, shunned;gradually fade into background clunker!
ድንጋይ እራስ :oops:

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Asmara » 17 Oct 2021, 05:33

Horus wrote:
16 Oct 2021, 14:32
What is driving US/EU pressure and intervention on Ethiopia is precisely the integration of the Horn of Africa, Ethiopia,Eritrea and Somalia, the guardians of the Red sea and the Indian ocean . This is the essence of all things political in the region, not Tigray. The object of struggle by global powers is the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.


Who gave you the right to be the guardian of the Red Sea? As far as my geographical knowledge is concerned, the Red Sea is bounded by countries such as Eritrea, Djibouti, SA, Yemen, Sudan and Egypt. These countries are the sole guardians of the Red Sea. If you think otherwise we can also argue that countries like Ethiopia, Sudan, Egypt, Eritrea, Djoubti, Somali, Kenya, Uganda and others could be the sole guardians of the Abay/Nile river. Using your logic the mentioned countries could be the sole deciders as well as to how the Nile should be shared, how it could be protected and the likes.

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Guest1 » 17 Oct 2021, 06:08

What is driving US/EU pressure and intervention on Ethiopia is precisely the integration of the Horn of Africa, Ethiopia,Eritrea and Somalia, the guardians of the Red sea and the Indian ocean . This is the essence of all things political in the region, not Tigray. The object of struggle by global powers is the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.
America and EU allied forces ነበሩ። ከአለም ጦርነት ብኋላ ማለት ጠረ ራሻ፡ ቻይናና ቱርክ ናቸው። EU ለምን ተመሰረተ? የአሜሪካንን የበላይነት ከመጥላት። አውሮፓ በአሜሪካን እንግሊዝኛ ከተናገርክ ወይም አሜሪካዊ ከስሙ ያለምንም ምክንያት ያብጠለጥላሉ። ድምጻቸውንም መስማት አይፈልግም። ፍቅር ሳይሆን ፓለቲካና ኢኮኖሚ ነው። የቀይ ባህር በሩ የተያዘው በማን ነው? ወይ ጉድ! ጂቡቲ የፈረንሳይ ናት። ኤርትራ የዳህላክ ደሴቶችን ለእስራኤልና ለአረቦች ከሸጠች ቆይቷል። ምጽዋስ ለማን ተሸጠ? ለአረቦች ብቻ? ሳውዲ አረቢያ ወደብ የላትም እንዴ? ቀሺም! ፓርት ሱዳን የሱዳን ብቻ ነው? ኢትዮጵያ ወደብ የሌላት ደሃ አገር። ምኑን ከምን ጋር ታዛምዳለህ? ወቸ ጉድ!!

እንበል የቀይ ባህር ጉዳይ ከሆነ አሜሪካ ፈረንሳይን ከጂቡቲ ማስወጣት ፈልጋለች ማለት አይደለም? የዳህላክ ደሴት ያስፈልገኛል ብላ ይሆን? ወይስ በተለይ ምጽዋና አሰብ ላይ አፍጥጣ? እና ኤረትራን ማፍረስ፤ ፈረንሳይን ከጂቡቲ ማባረር ነዋ! ከኢትዮጵያ ጋር አይገናኝም!! ይህንን የሚያሳካላት ማን ነው? ትግራይ ወይስ ኢትዮጵያ? መልስ ኢትዮጵያ።

በአሁኑ ጦርነት የሚቀበጣጥሩበትና እንዲቀጥል የሚገፋፉበት ምክንያት 1) የጦር መሳሪያ በገፍ ለመሸጥና ለአዲስ መሳሪያ ልምምድ 2) የህዝብ ቁጥር ለመቀነስ (የኤንቫይርመንት አጄንዳ ኢዩና አሜሪካ ስሞኑን ጀምረዋል) 3) ኤርትራና ፈረንሳይን ለማስበርገና አለሳልሶ ወይም በሃይል ለማሽቀንጠር። come on logic! 8)

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by sarcasm » 17 Oct 2021, 08:19

What you called "Integral Horn of Africa", is also referred as "East African Alliance of Dictatorships" and it is Isaias's brainchild. Checkout from 1:24:00 to understand what Isaias is tying to achieve with the alliance.

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Sabur » 17 Oct 2021, 08:33


Asmara:

Bingo !!

The only reason this Old Dergue Apologist Horus is calling for Political/Economical Integration which includes Eritrea is because Eritrea's Coastal Lines.

If Eritrea was land locked, he would not mention Eritrea in his scheme for Political/Economical Integration.

In fact if Ethiopia was a cohesive country, which IS NOT by any stretch of imagination, with Sea Outlets in the Red Sea and Indian Ocean, he would not be calling for Political/Economical Integration of the Region.



Asmara wrote:
17 Oct 2021, 05:33

Who gave you the right to be the guardian of the Red Sea? As far as my geographical knowledge is concerned, the Red Sea is bounded by countries such as Eritrea, Djibouti, SA, Yemen, Sudan and Egypt. These countries are the sole guardians of the Red Sea. If you think otherwise we can also argue that countries like Ethiopia, Sudan, Egypt, Eritrea, Djoubti, Somali, Kenya, Uganda and others could be the sole guardians of the Abay/Nile river. Using your logic the mentioned countries could be the sole deciders as well as to how the Nile should be shared, how it could be protected and the likes.

Horus wrote:
16 Oct 2021, 14:32
What is driving US/EU pressure and intervention on Ethiopia is precisely the integration of the Horn of Africa, Ethiopia,Eritrea and Somalia, the guardians of the Red sea and the Indian ocean . This is the essence of all things political in the region, not Tigray. The object of struggle by global powers is the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.


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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by eritrea » 17 Oct 2021, 18:30

Blueshift wrote:
16 Oct 2021, 20:31
So called Eritrea wrote to Horsee,
Since, we have been going through such a cycle for quite some time, we have to wait with political integration that requires deeper trust and work instead with economic and free movement of people and products between countries. Only that will act as a catalyst to accelerate more cooperation and development in different parts of life over time.
Wait for political integration ? ? :roll: another adgi, pretending to be Eritrean ? Wholly sh-it, this is crazy. Listen ni-gga , there won't be political integration. 3.5 million pop has no business integrating politically with 110 million people. Tens of Thousands of young Eritreans, have died for the so called independence to be a reality. This damn is very crazy. :twisted: Shyyyt head.
What a betrayal !!!!!!
Blueshift or what ever you call yourself. Discussing with you is, like running to catch oneself's tail. It just is pointless. Your understanding and standing points resembles like exact copy of the woyanes. No wonder everyone considers you as a tigrain.

Horus was discussing the reason why US/EU are pressuring Ethiopia. He made his point clear and load. Instead of challenging his thoughts, you opted calling him names and accusing me of trying to hand over Eritrea to Ethiopia.

You should understand Independence doesn't mean isolation. The meaning of independence is, freedom of making your own decisions that benefit not only the present generation but for many future generations. That is the reason why having good cooperation with all neighbouring countries are essenatial for ones development and prosperity.

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Horus » 17 Oct 2021, 19:03

eritrea,
ያገሬ ሰው የተማረ ይግደለኝ ይላል። አንተም እንደ ሆረስ ቃላት መፍለጥ እንደ ማይመችህ ገባኝ ። በትክክል የሚጽፉ በትክክል የሚያስቡ ናቸውና!
"You should understand Independence doesn't mean isolation. The meaning of independence is, freedom of making your own decisions that benefit not only the present generation but for many future generations. That is the reason why having good cooperation with all neighbouring countries are essential for ones development and prosperity." ባልከው ላይ ምንም የምጨምረው የለኝም። ኬር!

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Re: Integral Horn of Africa

Post by Noble Amhara » 17 Oct 2021, 19:39

Only Tigray oppose Horn of Africa Alliance!

Somaliland Eritrea and Djbouti gain alot from freely trading with Ethiopia

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