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Lovetarik: A New African Order

Post by Horus » 23 Sep 2021, 13:16

The 54 African countries individually and beset with conflict with each other can not have the slightest chance of surviving this impending global collapse and the resulting crises. AFRICA IS A CHAOS!

A number of African head of states have stated these possible developments. I am sure a lot people would agree that AU needs to call for an immediate continental congress of AU and the various African institutions to craft an African economic, political and military order - an African nationalist manifesto - to save the continent from a new imperial partition and exploitation .

For example, Africa needs a permanent seat in the UNSC. Africa needs a continental military defense pact and economic integration to respond to external aggression and bullying with a unified continental consequence.

I just wanted to add this to what said earlier.

I understand. Here is my point. Now almost every political animal recognizes that in world diplomacy, economic, and military conflict the singular driving force is National Interest. What is this national interest? It is power, money, fame and status. These core drivers appear in a form of geography, natural resources, market, sea lane, air space, political support, media, so called terrorism, influence, finance, etc. In short deciding which country get what and how?

So, we take all of the players in the game and ask what each country wants. what does Germany want in Africa, HoA and/or Ethiopia? What does France want? The answer are clear. They may have their own other conflicts with USA but both US and France may want the same thing in Djibouti. What do we do in this case? in each case? We map the interests, conflicts, agreements, and differences of each player and map our own moves. These moves could be very small and temporary and big and long term.

For example, the number 1 global conflict right now is economic. The fear is both USA and China could default on their debts leave alone small players like Ethiopia. France just lost billions of weapons sale in Australia. Hence, France will have an interest to find arms buyer, just as example. As you well know both France and Germany have huge colonial interest in African resources and they are not going to like Abiy's pan-African positions and the slow burning new African consciousness for unity, resource protection, market protection and African nationalism in general.

It by playing these kinds of complex geopolitical, economic, political, ideological strategic games that Ethiopia gets the gravitas she needs to ward off external bullying and hold her own place in the sun. It is doable if we simply get rid of small time tribal conflicts and form a unified strong country.

And, I fully agree that Ethiopia not only work closely with AU but lead Africa toward a more united and nationalist Africa!! Pan-Africanism is an old word. In my view African Nationalism is the simple and elegant concept that represents all of the things we are trying say.
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Re: Lovetarik: We Need A New African Order

Post by Lovetarik » 23 Sep 2021, 13:45

Horus
I am all for it. United Africa is our main hope, if not the only one, to save us from external powers and solve our problem of internal ethnic divisions.

I also believe African diaspora should get united and start influencing policy pronouncements in their respective country of residence. For instance, we should organize the African diaspora in the US to vote for candidates who are more sympathetic to African cause. Better yet we should get Africans to run for office. Considering the relentless baraging of USA on Africa, we must be ready for the upcoming US mid+term election. We can use medias like ESAT to start campaigning. ESAT should allocate air time to other African voices in this regard.

We can also go beyond and embrace African Americans and Africans from the Caribean and bring them into the fold. If we can do that, we can easily win the battle.

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Re: Lovetarik: We Need A New African Order

Post by Abere » 23 Sep 2021, 14:12

How is Africa going to established the United States of Africa, when there is a tiny piece of district of Tigray that believed it is neither Ethiopian nor African? Will Africans too make the district of Tigray an only Lesotho of Africa? The Tigray thugs even confirmed that when begging for mediation, they don't want African Unity but badly wanted either the UN or the Western countries. Anyway, I am for the United States of Africa. It is high time for Africa to transform itself from a fragmented colonial pieces of puzzle into one sovereign country of Africa. This will give diverse opportunity for political stability and economic benefit.

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Re: Lovetarik: We Need A New African Order

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Re: Lovetarik: We Need A New African Order

Post by Horus » 23 Sep 2021, 15:30

HERE IS VERY ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT! AFRICAN MEDIA, SOCIAL MEDIA NEED TO KEEP THIS CRITICAL AGENDA !!




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Re: Lovetarik: A New African Order

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Re: Lovetarik: A New African Order

Post by Abere » 23 Sep 2021, 15:50

Horus,
I think the United States of Africa may better be abbreviated as <USAF> to avoid confusion in the International Standard for country codes (ISO).

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Re: Lovetarik: We Need A New African Order

Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Sep 2021, 16:12

Abere wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 14:12
How is Africa going to established the United States of Africa, when there is a tiny piece of district of Tigray that believed it is neither Ethiopian nor African? Will Africans too make the district of Tigray an only Lesotho of Africa? The Tigray thugs even confirmed that when begging for mediation, they don't want African Unity but badly wanted either the UN or the Western countries. Anyway, I am for the United States of Africa. It is high time for Africa to transform itself from a fragmented colonial pieces of puzzle into one sovereign country of Africa. This will give diverse opportunity for political stability and economic benefit.
In my view Africa is divided to keep it weak, complacent, non-demanding and non assertive of its own interests.

It doesn't stop at the continental level, goes down to the national level. If a country get strong and start to assert itself, then it is dubbed a challenger, attacked. There are many precedences in this regard.

The moment they wanted to attack Ethiopia, they also flew to a neighboring country to pursude it to align itself with them against its own neighboring country, in effect weakening the unity of the region and that of the continent.

If we were united all along, then we could have made ourselves a force to reckon with by now. But we are miles away from this.

If we defeat the junta, then we may pave a way for our empowerment of Africa.

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Re: Lovetarik: We Need A New African Order

Post by Abere » 23 Sep 2021, 16:45

I agree with you! Eliminating TPLF remnants is a must. There is no better choice for Ethiopia in particular and Africa in general. TPLF was serving as a sheriff dog in the region to destabilize, traumatize citizens, give away the interests of the nation. It was a remote control used by external powers to turn on and turn off Africa in the interest of her worst colonizers. Ethiopia being historically an independent country there is no doubt, this legacy has been a target on her back. Her children prefer dignity over affluency - this is a deep ingrained legacy that the true sons and daughters of Ethiopia bequeathed from their patriotic ancestors.

The Western world knows Ethiopia not only historically independent (and her citizens living with this mentality) but also gateway to Africa. Thus, the development, peace and prosperity of Ethiopia is a constant headache to those longing for the sustainability of neocolonialism. Africa in fact is the most suffering from systemic colonialism - this is in plain sight. There is no need for ground breaking social-political research. And also looking for a soft [deleted] to deter the aspiration of countries Africa is an easy approach -with time things change. They don't roll tanks and put military bo.ots on ground they used mercenaries often close to the power or those already in power. Traitor often those who have links or were beneficiaries of the colonial era. African leadership is dominated by those who had such heritages and are put in place to run the colonial bureaucracy installed and left to them. In the case of Ethiopia, it is more of a segment of certain cultural groups. Dominantly these segment are found in Tigray and these elements are named as ባንዳ ወይም ሰላቱ. The TPLF hierarchy is dominated with individuals of ባንዳ ወይም ሰላቱ heritage. Unfortunately, these detrimental traitors infected large size of the Tigre population. Therefore, eliminating TPLF is not even optional it is a MUST.

--- Demographically the largest continent Africa does not even have a population size that equals either to India and China. Yet, they are each sovereign country while accounting larger percentage of the world. Also, North Americas with vast territory are each sovereign country. If it worked for these why can't it work for Africa. African have to ward off pessimism, fear, shut down unfounded conspiracy or stereotype often associated Africans can't do this or that. The dividend from United States of Africa (I call it USAF) is immeasurable. It cures all the ills and curses of colonialism.



DefendTheTruth wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 16:12
Abere wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 14:12
How is Africa going to established the United States of Africa, when there is a tiny piece of district of Tigray that believed it is neither Ethiopian nor African? Will Africans too make the district of Tigray an only Lesotho of Africa? The Tigray thugs even confirmed that when begging for mediation, they don't want African Unity but badly wanted either the UN or the Western countries. Anyway, I am for the United States of Africa. It is high time for Africa to transform itself from a fragmented colonial pieces of puzzle into one sovereign country of Africa. This will give diverse opportunity for political stability and economic benefit.
In my view Africa is divided to keep it weak, complacent, non-demanding and non assertive of its own interests.

It doesn't stop at the continental level, goes down to the national level. If a country get strong and start to assert itself, then it is dubbed a challenger, attacked. There are many precedences in this regard.

The moment they wanted to attack Ethiopia, they also flew to a neighboring country to pursude it to align itself with them against its own neighboring country, in effect weakening the unity of the region and that of the continent.

If we were united all along, then we could have made ourselves a force to reckon with by now. But we are miles away from this.

If we defeat the junta, then we may pave a way for our empowerment of Africa.

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Re: Lovetarik: A New African Order

Post by DefendTheTruth » 24 Sep 2021, 05:06

Here one more time a proof how they first try to divide Africa and then keep it weak, using asigned resources to do the job.

The sad part of it is that there are even some Ethiopians that tend to subscribe to this line of thinking. It is high-time, if not over due, that we realise the problem for what it is.

We need to support Abiy Ahmed, not for the sake of Abiy Ahmed himself personally, but for the sake of emancipating our people, at all levels. They are targetting him just because he stood up for the principle he believed in and considered is in the interest of his country. They are agitating African leaders to stand against him, to attack Africa, the ultimate goal.

“The Ethiopian government, in my view, has very stupidly set up the administration as an adversary engaged in a conspiracy against it, which is frankly stupid,” said Alex de Waal, a research professor at Tufts University and expert on the Horn of Africa.

Behind the scenes, other African governments welcomed the executive order even as they feel too inhibited by Ethiopia’s prominent diplomatic and historical leadership role on the continent to admit so publicly, de Waal said in an interview. “Privately, every African leader I know ... they are terrified of Abiy. They basically see him as a reckless demagogue.”


Now it is also getting clearer that they are tempted to harass the Ethiopian diaspora community for speaking out in the interest of their own country and the people they left behind.

It is high time to mobilize Ethiopians before our history of the glory of Adwa may end with an humilating episode during our life time.

If a cease-fire is not reached soon, de Waal said he fears a point of no return that could lead to the splintering of Ethiopia, which is home to more than 90 ethnic groups with their own distinct languages, cultures and territories.

“The Tigrayan sentiment is becoming very separatist. If Tigray fights a separatist war, it may win. It’s pretty militarily capable, particularly if they are convinced that there is a genocidal intent against them,” said de Waal, who leads the World Peace Foundation, which is affiliated with The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts. “Tigrayans abused the federalist system when they were in power but maintained the principles of it, including cultural and linguistic [rights] for minorities.”
This evil minded individual, an agent of international intelligency agency, thinks he can single handidly decide on the fate of the people of Ethiopia.

It is our choice to either make history or made history.

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Re: Lovetarik: A New African Order

Post by Horus » 24 Sep 2021, 11:12

DefendTheTruth wrote:
24 Sep 2021, 05:06
Here one more time a proof how they first try to divide Africa and then keep it weak, using asigned resources to do the job.

The sad part of it is that there are even some Ethiopians that tend to subscribe to this line of thinking. It is high-time, if not over due, that we realise the problem for what it is.

We need to support Abiy Ahmed, not for the sake of Abiy Ahmed himself personally, but for the sake of emancipating our people, at all levels. They are targetting him just because he stood up for the principle he believed in and considered is in the interest of his country. They are agitating African leaders to stand against him, to attack Africa, the ultimate goal.

“The Ethiopian government, in my view, has very stupidly set up the administration as an adversary engaged in a conspiracy against it, which is frankly stupid,” said Alex de Waal, a research professor at Tufts University and expert on the Horn of Africa.

Behind the scenes, other African governments welcomed the executive order even as they feel too inhibited by Ethiopia’s prominent diplomatic and historical leadership role on the continent to admit so publicly, de Waal said in an interview. “Privately, every African leader I know ... they are terrified of Abiy. They basically see him as a reckless demagogue.”


Now it is also getting clearer that they are tempted to harass the Ethiopian diaspora community for speaking out in the interest of their own country and the people they left behind.

It is high time to mobilize Ethiopians before our history of the glory of Adwa may end with an humilating episode during our life time.

If a cease-fire is not reached soon, de Waal said he fears a point of no return that could lead to the splintering of Ethiopia, which is home to more than 90 ethnic groups with their own distinct languages, cultures and territories.

“The Tigrayan sentiment is becoming very separatist. If Tigray fights a separatist war, it may win. It’s pretty militarily capable, particularly if they are convinced that there is a genocidal intent against them,” said de Waal, who leads the World Peace Foundation, which is affiliated with The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts. “Tigrayans abused the federalist system when they were in power but maintained the principles of it, including cultural and linguistic [rights] for minorities.”
This evil minded individual, an agent of international intelligency agency, thinks he can single handidly decide on the fate of the people of Ethiopia.

It is our choice to either make history or made history.
de Waal is a best friend of Seye Abraham in Boston. He is associated with Tufts school of diplomacy where most of American foreign workers and spies are trained. By guess is everything he writes reflects Seye Abraham's view . FYI.

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Re: Lovetarik: We Need A New African Order

Post by Lovetarik » 24 Sep 2021, 11:43

ሆረስ እንደሚለው ወያኔ የግርጌ ማስታወሻ ሆኖ ይቀጥላል።
Abere wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 14:12
How is Africa going to established the United States of Africa, when there is a tiny piece of district of Tigray that believed it is neither Ethiopian nor African? Will Africans too make the district of Tigray an only Lesotho of Africa? The Tigray thugs even confirmed that when begging for mediation, they don't want African Unity but badly wanted either the UN or the Western countries. Anyway, I am for the United States of Africa. It is high time for Africa to transform itself from a fragmented colonial pieces of puzzle into one sovereign country of Africa. This will give diverse opportunity for political stability and economic benefit.

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