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Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 01:28

Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

The OLF is no more only specific organization, but it is already mindset of all genuine nationalists struggling for full freedom and sovereignty of the Oromo. These nationalists are moving in three directions to check the notorious anti-Oromo Abyssinian elites. Now, we find them in the rebel group (OLA = Oromo Liberation Army), in the main opposition parties like OFC and OLF as well as in the currently ruling party (the OPP). Our foes try to antagonize these three movements and they wish that the Oromo rebel, opposition and regime fight each other. I hope that the OLFites in the three directions know what to do. They surely shall harmonize their struggle in order to prevent the coming back of both Ethiofascist Amhara elites and Ethnofascist Tegaru elites to Finfinne palace. They need to get rid of the pro-Amharanet/anti-Oromummaa elites of Biltsigina now ruling in the palace very cautiously. The OLFites should take over the leadership in OPP by replacing the traitors like Abiy Ahmed. That means, the OLFites should try to infiltrate Biltsigina and and its military as well as security massively. They have to prefer centripetal move (engaging in the regime) to centrifugal move (involvement in the rebel). Specially, the current attempt of Amhara elites to control the regime and its institutions must be checked by the OLFites from the three ways of struggle.
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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 02:36

No question that the OLF is the best Oromo organization having support of almost all Oromo nationalists in the walk of life. Despite its disintegration into many factions, it still enjoys the support. But as organized entity, can these groups now come together and forge one strong Oromo opposition to take away power from the EPP? Especially, can the OLF factions do this? I always wish that the OLF be strong and smart enough to play its best, not only in Oromian politics, but also in Ethiopian and Horn politics. Till now, it lacks the necessary flexibility to change its only Oromo-centered politics to an inclusive Ethiopian politics. OPP seems to be better in this respect. Problem of OPP is that it is not yet free from the OPDO elements, who are still with slave mentality and like to serve Abyssinian interest more than Oromian. For instance, they still accept domination of Amharanet/Amharinya in Finfine palace and in the federation at the cost of Oromummaa/Oromiffaa. Of course, this status quo must be changed. May Waaqa help the Oromo oppositions come together and form one formidable party challenging the OPP!

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 04:45

To get rid of the Biltsigina regime, there is no other way as an alternate to reorganization of an inclusive alliance like the AFD. Such an alliance is the only way for ward.  All Oromo organizations and others, Who believe in the right of nations to self-determination can take part in fostering such alliance. The problem is when these freedom fighters try to make an alliance with democratic forces, who want to have unconditional unity of the country as precondition for alliance. How is it possible to solve this problem? I tried to discuss with some people about this issue in forums and per e-mail. All concerned people believed in the necessity of such an alliance against Biltsigina regime, but they differ on the precondition, which is required for the alliance. We can classify all of them in to two blocs; one bloc argue that accepting and respecting the right of nations to self-determination must be a precondition for an alliance, whereas the other bloc insisted on the precondition to be territorial integrity of Ethiopia.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 06:13

Let’s look at the arguements of the two camps: the camp of self-determination and the camp of territorial integrity:

1) Those in the camp of territorial integrity insisted that unity of the whole country is very mandatory for the alliance and even for the future union of nations we want to forge. Here is how Prof Messay argues:

“Far from promoting free union, the right to self-determination actually blocks it. It is when union becomes unconditional that it forces peoples to find a form of accommodation that suits them all. Here is an illustrative analogy: if two competing individuals decide to build a house together, their cooperation makes sense if the house becomes their common interest, that is, if both intend to live in the same house. However, if one of the partners is at the same time building another house, whatever partnership they had becomes so suspicious that it comes to an end. The right to self-determination cannot provide the common goal for a lasting union. Moreover, nobody is inclined to make serious concessions if the outcome is so precarious. It is when we decide to live in the same house, no matter what, that we would be inclined to better the house. While Stalin recognizes the right to secede, Rousseau maintains that a nation means an indivisible unity for only indivisibility creates a common goal. Obviously, a conditional unity is hardly able to produce a serious commitment to the idea of a lasting union.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 19 Sep 2021, 06:51

OPFist wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 01:28
Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

The OLF is no more only specific organization, but it is already mindset of all genuine nationalists struggling for full freedom and sovereignty of the Oromo. These nationalists are moving in three directions to check the notorious anti-Oromo Abyssinian elites. Now, we find them in the rebel group (OLA = Oromo Liberation Army), in the main opposition parties like OFC and OLF as well as in the currently ruling party (the OPP). Our foes try to antagonize these three movements and they wish that the Oromo rebel, opposition and regime fight each other. I hope that the OLFites in the three directions know what to do. They surely shall harmonize their struggle in order to prevent the coming back of both Ethiofascist Amhara elites and Ethnofascist Tegaru elites to Finfinne palace. They need to get rid of the pro-Amharanet/anti-Oromummaa elites of Biltsigina now ruling in the palace very cautiously. The OLFites should take over the leadership in OPP by replacing the traitors like Abiy Ahmed. That means, the OLFites should try to infiltrate Biltsigina and and its military as well as security massively. They have to prefer centripetal move (engaging in the regime) to centrifugal move (involvement in the rebel). Specially, the current attempt of Amhara elites to control the regime and its institutions must be checked by the OLFites from the three ways of struggle.
Read more: https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2019 ... on-to-odp/
Your fallacy and with that your idiotism have no bound. Emprically, there is nothing called anti-oromo entity anywhere, there could be some sort of conflict of interest among the elites that may also stretch towards affecting the mass. This conflict may reflect itself in a lack of rights, be it democratic, human, economic, cultural and the likes. But this might have happened irrespective of your bloodlines, if it existed. So, there is no need to try to take a cover under one's ethnic enclaves to fight against these injustices, assuming they existed, and as such they are universal, not peculiar to one specific ethnic group.

Your ambition is one and the same all along: try to usurp the power of the people by claiming that you are from the majority of the population (based on numeric ethnic ratio in the country, which is by no means a majority and as such will end up short of any meaningful "majority" and trapping the interest of the people the same way TPLF did to its people).

Your ambition of seeking ተረኝነት has nothing to do with demanding equal opportunity for all, which is a basis for a lasting peace and sustainable development in the country.

All in all you are an enemy of the people!

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 07:58

The Stalinist approach has no historical foundation as nations did not emerge as a result of peoples exercising the right to self-determination. The politics of either lumping people together or splitting them apart according as they want or do not want to stay together is too artificial to be anything more than a manipulation of political elites. Instead, modern nations have come into being through inner movements smashing the oppressive structures of conquests and empires. With the exception of overseas colonial empires––whose difficulties to modernize relate to the absence of organized democratic movements in the pre-independence phase––the resolution to build a common house guaranteeing freedom and equality for all is the cornerstone of modern nation, not the right to secession.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 09:28

Those who truly care about democracy and freedom must understand that the refusal of self-determination alone can bring about the changes that they hope. What the refusal means is that we make unity unconditional so that everything else becomes negotiable. But if the union is conditional, the blackmail of secession seriously jeopardizes the exercise of democratic rules. What is more, a union is formed without the equal alienation of rights since one of the partners reserves the right to secede. As Rousseau puts it, the condition of modern democracy is “the total alienation of each associate, together with all his rights, to the whole community; for, in the first place, as each gives himself absolutely, the conditions are the same for all; and, this being so, no one has any interest in making them burdensome to others” (The Social Contract). It is clear that the act by which a people join a political union is also the act by which it ceases to consider itself as a nation. It becomes part of an organic whole and its distinctive characteristics, such as language, religion, customs, etc., become regional expressions of a larger union. How the specificities integrate into the union is negotiable, and various forms of arrangement can ensure their protection. By contrast, union defined as a collection of autonomous nations is a Stalinist aberration and a contradiction in terms.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 12:55

The best alternative is to renew the commitment to unconditional unity, thereby creating the conditions of a satisfactory solution for all. If the union is abiding, then serious talks can start on how to build the common house. I recommend the term “ethnic groups,” with the understanding that the Amhara and the Tigreans are no less ethnic groups than the Oromo, the Gurage, the Somali, etc. In so doing, we define Ethiopia as a multicultural nation rather than as a multinational state, a feature that requires a federal arrangement with large autonomy and self-rule. In this way, we avoid the present impasse without, however, sacrificing those rights necessary to realize the full equality of Oromia’s ethnic groups.”

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by AbebeB » 19 Sep 2021, 13:14

OPFist wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 01:28
Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

The OLF is no more only specific organization, but it is already mindset of all genuine nationalists struggling for full freedom and sovereignty of the Oromo. These nationalists are moving in three directions to check the notorious anti-Oromo Abyssinian elites. Now, we find them in the rebel group (OLA = Oromo Liberation Army), in the main opposition parties like OFC and OLF as well as in the currently ruling party (the OPP). Our foes try to antagonize these three movements and they wish that the Oromo rebel, opposition and regime fight each other. I hope that the OLFites in the three directions know what to do. They surely shall harmonize their struggle in order to prevent the coming back of both Ethiofascist Amhara elites and Ethnofascist Tegaru elites to Finfinne palace. They need to get rid of the pro-Amharanet/anti-Oromummaa elites of Biltsigina now ruling in the palace very cautiously. The OLFites should take over the leadership in OPP by replacing the traitors like Abiy Ahmed. That means, the OLFites should try to infiltrate Biltsigina and and its military as well as security massively. They have to prefer centripetal move (engaging in the regime) to centrifugal move (involvement in the rebel). Specially, the current attempt of Amhara elites to control the regime and its institutions must be checked by the OLFites from the three ways of struggle.
Read more: https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2019 ... on-to-odp/
OPFist,
From this post of you, I can learn that you are clearly serving the need of historical enemies of Oromo nation in two ways.
1. By exposing the inner of Oromo's struggle tactic, though in dire.
2. By bring on board the servants of habesha in order to contribute to confusion of political layman oromos.
The latter term is to refer to those who harnessed their settler masters even after freed from overhead load of the earlier feeders.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 16:02

Those in the camp of self-determination argue that taking unconditional unity as precondition is dictatorial and doesn’t garantee a union as long lasting solution and it will be perpetuation of the hitherto unification at gun point. Some points of view in this bloc, which are necessary to be mentioned here are:
To achieve durable alliance of the two forces (pro-territorial integrity forces and pro-self determination forces) against Biltsigina, the two need to forge one common ground as ommon goal. To be recommended as common goal is: union of free peoples, because union of free Oromo state, Amhara state and other free states in Ethiopian (Great Oromian) union, as a result of self-determination of each nation is possible. Till now, it is very difficult to get common purpose on which the two forces could agree. Pro-self determination forces argue that nations must be free from domination by any means and then build union based on free will. The mistrust between pro-territorial integrity forces and pro-self determination forces is God-given opportunity for Biltsigina, which it is mis-using to rule the country as long as possible. Unless these two groups come to term and cooperate against Biltsigina, all nations in the empire have to settle for long rule of Biltsigina, not only for few years, but for many decades. The two groups should agree on the common ground. Union of free Amhara, Tigrai, Afar, Oromo, Ogaden, Sidama, Gurage…..etc as result of their respective self determination and even bigger union including Eritrea, Djibouti, Somaliland, Puntland and Somalia (if they agree based on free will) is a noble cause for which all can fight together. Not accepting this model automatically means unconditional separation of these free nations as an alternative.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 17:20

In the year 2006, pro-self determination forces formed AFD together with some pro-territorial integrity forces and with that they took away the very important instrument, which TPLF used to rule over Ethiopians; i.e designating pro-territorial integrity forces as nostalgic centeralists and pro-self detrmination forces as narrow separatists, so that they could be polarized and fought each other. Since then, this instrument was dead and TPLF was under cooperating attack from both forces. The important question to be answered was: on which precondtion did they foster ex-AFD or was it formed with out any precondition?

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 19 Sep 2021, 21:51

Further more, there is a difference of definition regarding unity and union. Pro-territorial integrity forces seem to support the first and pro-self determination forces tend to accept the second, if it is a result of public verdict. The first is pre-modern, whereas the second is post-modern. In summary here is the difference between the pre-modern unity and the post-modern union. I don’t remember his name, but certain British scholar classified countries in the world in to three: 1) pre-modern chaotic states like the artificial constructs/countries in Africa, such as the Abyssinian empire, which the Amhara pro-democracy forces seem to love, 2) modern nation-states like some mononational-states in Asia and Latine America and 3) post-modern union of free nations like those in the European Union. So, Amhara pro-democracy forces should see that African nations, including those in Ethiopia, were kept as pre-modern due to the arrangement made by European colonizers and this is still perpetuated further by AU-dictators, who are dedicated not to change it. Africans need to leave behind artificial nations like Eritrea, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Djibouti, Somaliland, Somalia and Kenya in order to forge productive natural nation-states like Tigrai, Amhara, Afar, Oromo, Hausa, Yoruba, Somalia…etc; to be transformed from the present position (pre-modern), passing through the stage of modern status like an independent Oromia without union, and to move further towards post-modern situation like free Oromia within union of free peoples. This last status is the most beneficial one, which Europeans themselves are still enjoying!

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 20 Sep 2021, 02:46

The two positions, i.e position of pro-territorial integrity vs position of pro-self determination (union based on free will) should be discussed and debated before attempting to forge an inclusive alliance against Biltsigina. Even when nations give their vote to free state within union, then it will be mandatory to decide secondly on which type of federal arrangement to be accepted as suitable. Pro-unity forces believe that this can be decided by public verdict. Now, the question to be directed to them is: can’t they extend this philosophy for deciding on which type of federation, also to the arguement: free Oromia within union vs without union? Doesn’t this require self determination of nations to decide on which type of sovereignity peoples can have? Can’t they imagine that the public can also decide on this issue per referendum? Doesn’t their democracy rhetoric include this option? Can’t they accept and live, if certain public decides for independence without union? Or do they go to forest and fight for the union they want to see?

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 20 Sep 2021, 06:53

Regarding the dictatorial unifiers who are advocating unconditional unity without an option for a public verdict, it should be known that they did take away freedom of the concerend public by advocating such dictatorial position. For example, when they say “be andinet lay anideraderim!”, they are sending a message: you people either accept this andinet or we will deal with you. They don’t dare to say, we advocate for unity and then let the public decide. Their approach is arrogant, dictatorial and uncompromising. To such people, pro-self determination forces also should said: “be netsanet lay anideraderim”. Then, how can these two groups who say “anideraderim” deal with each other? The only solution can be bullet, as it has always been. Pro-territorial integrity dictatorial forces won for the last 150 years and they “united” us by force. Pro-self determination forces call this as colonization, for it is not union based on free will. Some people with similar dictatorial ideology (e.g the TPLF) want to continue the status quo at gun point. That is why pro-self determination forces dare to say: “such unity forces are not open for the lasting solution, but they are still the causes for misery in the Horn region”.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 20 Sep 2021, 11:23

Relevant question to be answered is again: do we see any possibility and any common denominator for an eventual inclusive alliance between the above mentioned two blocs against the ruling party? It is good to suggest that the only common denominator is acceptance of common strategical goal; i.e union based on nations’ right to self-determination. Coming to the call for alliance, it can be an alliance of the two blocs, who may at least theoretically agree on establishing federal democratic country per public verdict to decide firstly on type of sovereignity: YES to union vs NO to union and then if the choice is YES, secondly to decide on the type of federation: language based federation vs geography based federation.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 20 Sep 2021, 12:48

If rightly excercised, genuine ethnic federalism based on free will is still a good common ground for both pro-territorial integrity forces and pro-self determination forces. Therefore, if pro-unity camp gives up its stand of having unity as precondition for the possible alliance, move of the two camps to struggle together for freedom and democracy in Ethiopia is very smart and timely. Yet the two blocs need to build middle way compromise solution to their apparently irreconcilable goals. I think, any inclusive alliance similar to AFD is the best way for both self-determination of nations and democratization of Ethiopia as well for integration of the resulting union of nations (national freedom within regional union). The result will be free nation states in a volantary union. This is not just a fancy, but fact which can be yet realized.

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Re: Three Current Roads of the OLF: Rebel, Opposition and Regime!

Post by OPFist » 20 Sep 2021, 14:54

I am personally against any sort of dictatorial unity and am supporter of a union of free peoples. Any unity without public verdict will fail, take it only 1 year, about 10 years or as long as 100 years. That is why I always advocate for a lasting solution based on free will of all stakeholders, instead of the temporary wishy-washy solution. Some orgs seem to choose unconditional-unity as precondition, which will surely never persist long for it is not based on self determination of free peoples, but on pre-determination by only few elites. The coming inclusive OLF, i.e a revived big organization must be based on a solid ground and take self-determination rather than unconditional territorial integriy as precondition. Yet, the OLF must be flexible enough to reform itself and be ready to take responsibility in the whole country and Horn region. It has to form coalition for democratic federation at level of Oromia and foster alliance for democratic federation in the whole country. Such OLF will surely get majority vote to take power not only in Gadaa Oromia, but also in democratic Ethiopia (Great Oromia). Regarding the three roads of struggle, the OLFites should prioritize overtaking the regime from the Prosperitans by infiltrating the OPP massively. Last but not least, the issue of self-determination of nations is not stalinisitc as Prof Messay and co try to discredit, but it is part and parcel of the UN charter in this 21st century modern politics.

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