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TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Hawdian » 09 Sep 2021, 12:39

It's important Tigray fighters draw back inside Tigray, preserve their weapons and fighters.

The international community is obligated to ensure another genocide is not carried out by Amhara militias aided by heavily Amhara dominated ENDF and Eritrean troops.

There is need for independent monitoring committee as well as no fly zone in and around Tigray.

All troops from Amhara and neighbouring Eritrea should be removed and if they refuse, bombing might be necessary like the Serbians since they only understand violence.

Once Amhara and Eritreans are removed from western Tigray, it's necessary to open the Sudanese corridor for aid and even possibly a new broadband cable so to connect Tigray to the internet.



The blockade could kill as many as 3 million or 40% of Tigray population.

Both the Amhara and Isaias circle deeply resent the rebellious society of Tigray.

Those who carried out the November to July atrocities need to be held accountable including Eritrean forces.

Somali people say no to violence and rape "purifying blood" of Tigray women and children by Amhara militias aided and made possible by Eritreans.

We admit we strongly disliked Woyane for betraying us but we have our limits.



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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Misraq » 09 Sep 2021, 12:50

Big booooooty,

Nice analysis :mrgreen: ....now, when can I spank your big buuuutttt with my big bantu hands :lol:

Is there a no fly zone around your anu$ and ፊንጣጣ?

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Fed_Up » 09 Sep 2021, 12:55

አምበጣ አጋሜ

Leave Eritreans and Eritrea alone. It is a warning!!

አወቅሽ አወቅሽ ቢሏት ...
You think we don’t know you. We will expose your skinny arse and leg to everyone. Wedi shemutta!

Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 12:39
It's important Tigray fighters draw back inside Tigray, preserve their weapons and fighters.

The international community is obligated to ensure another genocide is not carried out by Amhara militias aided by heavily Amhara dominated ENDF and Eritrean troops.

There is need for independent monitoring committee as well as no fly zone in and around Tigray.

All troops from Amhara and neighbouring Eritrea should be removed and if they refuse, bombing might be necessary like the Serbians since they only understand violence.

Once Amhara and Eritreans are removed from western Tigray, it's necessary to open the Sudanese corridor for aid and even possibly a new broadband cable so to connect Tigray to the internet.



The blockade could kill as many as 3 million or 40% of Tigray population.

Both the Amhara and Isaias circle deeply resent the rebellious society of Tigray.

Those who carried out the November to July atrocities need to be held accountable including Eritrean forces.

Somali people say no to violence and rape "purifying blood" of Tigray women and children by Amhara militias aided and made possible by Eritreans.

We admit we strongly disliked Woyane for betraying us but we have our limits.



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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Sabur » 09 Sep 2021, 12:57


Houdini:

Eat the Dust as the Peace Loving but resolute people of the Horn Africa are enjoying the downfall and the destruction of the Cancerous Terrorist TPLF in the Region.

Sudan is ready to Dump the Terrorist TPLF.



Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 12:39
It's important Tigray fighters draw back inside Tigray, preserve their weapons and fighters.

The international community is obligated to ensure another genocide is not carried out by Amhara militias aided by heavily Amhara dominated ENDF and Eritrean troops.

There is need for independent monitoring committee as well as no fly zone in and around Tigray.

All troops from Amhara and neighbouring Eritrea should be removed and if they refuse, bombing might be necessary like the Serbians since they only understand violence.

Once Amhara and Eritreans are removed from western Tigray, it's necessary to open the Sudanese corridor for aid and even possibly a new broadband cable so to connect Tigray to the internet.



The blockade could kill as many as 3 million or 40% of Tigray population.

Both the Amhara and Isaias circle deeply resent the rebellious society of Tigray.

Those who carried out the November to July atrocities need to be held accountable including Eritrean forces.

Somali people say no to violence and rape "purifying blood" of Tigray women and children by Amhara militias aided and made possible by Eritreans.

We admit we strongly disliked Woyane for betraying us but we have our limits.



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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Noble Amhara » 09 Sep 2021, 13:02


Dessie Kombolcha Hayq chase TPLF away


Burn in hell chigrayan werari :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:


:mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:


:mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Temt » 09 Sep 2021, 13:06

Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 12:39
It's important Tigray fighters draw back inside Tigray, preserve their weapons and fighters.

The international community is obligated to ensure another genocide is not carried out by Amhara militias aided by heavily Amhara dominated ENDF and Eritrean troops.

There is need for independent monitoring committee as well as no fly zone in and around Tigray.

All troops from Amhara and neighbouring Eritrea should be removed and if they refuse, bombing might be necessary like the Serbians since they only understand violence.

Once Amhara and Eritreans are removed from western Tigray, it's necessary to open the Sudanese corridor for aid and even possibly a new broadband cable so to connect Tigray to the internet.



The blockade could kill as many as 3 million or 40% of Tigray population.

Both the Amhara and Isaias circle deeply resent the rebellious society of Tigray.

Those who carried out the November to July atrocities need to be held accountable including Eritrean forces.

Somali people say no to violence and rape "purifying blood" of Tigray women and children by Amhara militias aided and made possible by Eritreans.

We admit we strongly disliked Woyane for betraying us but we have our limits.
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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Hawdian » 09 Sep 2021, 13:11

Fed up,

Notice how you Eritreans have emotional break downs when told the truth.

President Isaias is pretty much disable and has maximum 3 more years. Remember these words.

So he wanted to bury Tigray before he was gone because in his eyes, Eritrea wouldn't have to worry about a likely civil war with Tigray buried.

Once our leaders get this old, they have unhealthy paranoia.

He made the situation worse by going to bed with Amhara– the very people who killed most Eritreans' grandfathers.

After his death, it's going to get interesting with economy in tatters, heavy sanctions, unresolved issues with Mekelle and Addis.

Abiy pretends to love you but never once offered to demarcate the borders. The Amhara still drool over Eritrean ports.

You committed crimes for no good reason. Tigray survived.

I don't insult, I talk facts and analysis. That's why I have top ambassadors and Governments following me on Twitter including Abiy's own teams.

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Noble Amhara » 09 Sep 2021, 13:21

Hawadan R0man —- EthioredPEE bahahahahahahahahaa keep crying

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by kerenite » 09 Sep 2021, 13:33

Greetings,

As an eritrean, it is none of my fuucking business to indulge myself in the fuucked up ethio politics.

But what I currently know (following today's arab medias reports) your agames are on retreat from all fronts which they occupied and your amharas are the winners to the extent that they are on the verge of occupying shire.

Tena yistilgn

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Aba » 09 Sep 2021, 13:58

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Abere » 09 Sep 2021, 14:11

Taking loses is Not just good enough to describe what is befalling on TPLF. It is now facing the ultimate fate similar to Tamil Tigers or Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in Sri Lanka. Wiped out for eternity is the fate of TPLF. The new 2014 Ethiopian year is a year without any talk of TPLF.

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Sadacha Macca » 09 Sep 2021, 14:15

You seem to be very worried about your beloved Tigray. I understand brother. It is indeed sad to see them suffer as a result of mostly their own "leaders" greed, lust for money and power, and so on. TPLF's transgressions against pretty much every neighbor within Ethiopia and the Horn resulted in them being isolated, marginalized and surrounded by hostile foes with scores to settle. They didn't want to coexist in peace with fellow Ethiopians but instead wanted to exploit, subjugate and oppress them.. now they are seeing the fruits that they themselves harvested. Sad but avoidable at the same time.
I hope Tigrayans take a lesson from this tragic ordeal. Do not allow your heroes and freedom fighters to turn into oppressors who exploit and subjugate others in your name/the name of Tigray and Tigrayans. Condemn their crimes and acts of oppression as opposed to blindly backing them because they're your ethnic kin and because you benefit from their innumerable amount of crimes.

The way it looks now, Tigrayans will never ascend to their former position of ruling over others, which is good for the entire region including for themselves. They can contemplate independence but that'd make their situation even worse because what would their borders be and how can they build a viable economy while potentially surrounded on all sides by enemies?
Hmmm. A tough predicament indeed.


Also,

Abiy didn't agree to demarcate borders? Did he not publicly agree to implement the Algiers decision that awarded Badme to Eritrea?

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Abaymado » 09 Sep 2021, 14:21

Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 12:39
It's important Tigray fighters draw back inside Tigray, preserve their weapons and fighters.

The international community is obligated to ensure another genocide is not carried out by Amhara militias aided by heavily Amhara dominated ENDF and Eritrean troops.

There is need for independent monitoring committee as well as no fly zone in and around Tigray.

All troops from Amhara and neighbouring Eritrea should be removed and if they refuse, bombing might be necessary like the Serbians since they only understand violence. :
:lol: :lol: Who the fk are you wanting to order international body


Once Amhara and Eritreans are removed from western Tigray, it's necessary to open the Sudanese corridor for aid and even possibly a new broadband cable so to connect Tigray to the internet.
:lol: :lol: This is the best joke of the year.


The blockade could kill as many as 3 million or 40% of Tigray population.

Both the Amhara and Isaias circle deeply resent the rebellious society of Tigray.

Those who carried out the November to July atrocities need to be held accountable including Eritrean forces.

Somali people say no to violence and rape "purifying blood" of Tigray women and children by Amhara militias aided and made possible by Eritreans.

We admit we strongly disliked Woyane for betraying us but we have our limits.



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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Hawdian » 09 Sep 2021, 14:37

Sadacha Macca wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:15
You seem to be very worried about your beloved Tigray. I understand brother. It is indeed sad to see them suffer as a result of mostly their own "leaders" greed, lust for money and power, and so on. TPLF's transgressions against pretty much every neighbor within Ethiopia and the Horn resulted in them being isolated, marginalized and surrounded by hostile foes with scores to settle. They didn't want to coexist in peace with fellow Ethiopians but instead wanted to exploit, subjugate and oppress them.. now they are seeing the fruits that they themselves harvested. Sad but avoidable at the same time.
I hope Tigrayans take a lesson from this tragic ordeal. Do not allow your heroes and freedom fighters to turn into oppressors who exploit and subjugate others in your name/the name of Tigray and Tigrayans. Condemn their crimes and acts of oppression as opposed to blindly backing them because they're your ethnic kin and because you benefit from their innumerable amount of crimes.

The way it looks now, Tigrayans will never ascend to their former position of ruling over others, which is good for the entire region including for themselves. They can contemplate independence but that'd make their situation even worse because what would their borders be and how can they build a viable economy while potentially surrounded on all sides by enemies?
Hmmm. A tough predicament indeed.


Also,

Abiy didn't agree to demarcate borders? Did he not publicly agree to implement the Algiers decision that awarded Badme to Eritrea?
Valid points there Obbo Sadacha.

You have made big progress over the years unlike the above characters. They still angry and only understand limited profanities.

Well done Sadacha.

We are pretty much on the same point but if Tigray repents we will lift them from isolations.

Isolation is only Amhara interests, why weaken the little kid talking on the much bigger bully?

This is an Amhara-Tigrai war portrayed by Bahir Dar and Abiy to look like Ethiopia vs foreign powers.

While we reject return of TPLF, we draw a fine line and differentiate the difference between Amhara's attempts to exterminate Tigray and vending TPLF off.

This is what's making genocidal Amhara uneasy.

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Selam/ » 09 Sep 2021, 14:49

Kichamam Mujahideen - Don’t try to rub off your disgusting woyane skin onto others. KIFFU!


Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:37
Sadacha Macca wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:15
You seem to be very worried about your beloved Tigray. I understand brother. It is indeed sad to see them suffer as a result of mostly their own "leaders" greed, lust for money and power, and so on. TPLF's transgressions against pretty much every neighbor within Ethiopia and the Horn resulted in them being isolated, marginalized and surrounded by hostile foes with scores to settle. They didn't want to coexist in peace with fellow Ethiopians but instead wanted to exploit, subjugate and oppress them.. now they are seeing the fruits that they themselves harvested. Sad but avoidable at the same time.
I hope Tigrayans take a lesson from this tragic ordeal. Do not allow your heroes and freedom fighters to turn into oppressors who exploit and subjugate others in your name/the name of Tigray and Tigrayans. Condemn their crimes and acts of oppression as opposed to blindly backing them because they're your ethnic kin and because you benefit from their innumerable amount of crimes.

The way it looks now, Tigrayans will never ascend to their former position of ruling over others, which is good for the entire region including for themselves. They can contemplate independence but that'd make their situation even worse because what would their borders be and how can they build a viable economy while potentially surrounded on all sides by enemies?
Hmmm. A tough predicament indeed.


Also,

Abiy didn't agree to demarcate borders? Did he not publicly agree to implement the Algiers decision that awarded Badme to Eritrea?
Valid points there Obbo Sadacha.

You have made big progress over the years unlike the above characters. They still angry and only understand limited profanities.

Well done Sadacha.

We are pretty much on the same point but if Tigray repents we will lift them from isolations.

Isolation is only Amhara interests, why weaken the little kid talking on the much bigger bully?

This is an Amhara-Tigrai war portrayed by Bahir Dar and Abiy to look like Ethiopia vs foreign powers.

While we reject return of TPLF, we draw a fine line and differentiate the difference between Amhara's attempts to exterminate Tigray and vending TPLF off.

This is what's making genocidal Amhara uneasy.

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Aba » 09 Sep 2021, 15:21

The stupidity of Prosperity junta stooges is amazing. Didn't you say this months ago and ended up fighting for your lives inside you own territory? What makes you think these experts are not going to wipe you and your monster Issu out of the face of the earth?
Abere wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:11
Taking loses is Not just good enough to describe what is befalling on TPLF. It is now facing the ultimate fate similar to Tamil Tigers or Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in Sri Lanka. Wiped out for eternity is the fate of TPLF. The new 2014 Ethiopian year is a year without any talk of TPLF.

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Sep 2021, 15:43

Sadacha Macca wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:15
You seem to be very worried about your beloved Tigray. I understand brother. It is indeed sad to see them suffer as a result of mostly their own "leaders" greed, lust for money and power, and so on. TPLF's transgressions against pretty much every neighbor within Ethiopia and the Horn resulted in them being isolated, marginalized and surrounded by hostile foes with scores to settle. They didn't want to coexist in peace with fellow Ethiopians but instead wanted to exploit, subjugate and oppress them.. now they are seeing the fruits that they themselves harvested. Sad but avoidable at the same time.
I hope Tigrayans take a lesson from this tragic ordeal. Do not allow your heroes and freedom fighters to turn into oppressors who exploit and subjugate others in your name/the name of Tigray and Tigrayans. Condemn their crimes and acts of oppression as opposed to blindly backing them because they're your ethnic kin and because you benefit from their innumerable amount of crimes.

The way it looks now, Tigrayans will never ascend to their former position of ruling over others, which is good for the entire region including for themselves. They can contemplate independence but that'd make their situation even worse because what would their borders be and how can they build a viable economy while potentially surrounded on all sides by enemies?
Hmmm. A tough predicament indeed.


Also,

Abiy didn't agree to demarcate borders? Did he not publicly agree to implement the Algiers decision that awarded Badme to Eritrea?
General Bacha Debele summarized the case of TPLF saying theirs is the case of "Ostrich (ሰጎን) Dance", if you know that.

This is their nature, can't be changed, it is incompatible with the behavior of fair people wishing to coexist in harmony with others.

So, the solution is one and one only, eliminate the Goiter.

They exploited the rest for the whole of 30 years, still don't want to give up that. A vampire creature. It will hurt first and foremost the Tigreans themselves at the end, if it didn't already.

The sooner they say enough is enough the better the outcome for them, I think.

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Fed_Up » 09 Sep 2021, 16:04

Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 13:11
Fed up,

Notice how you Eritreans have emotional break downs when told the truth.

President Isaias is pretty much disable and has maximum 3 more years. Remember these words.

So he wanted to bury Tigray before he was gone because in his eyes, Eritrea wouldn't have to worry about a likely civil war with Tigray buried.

Once our leaders get this old, they have unhealthy paranoia.

He made the situation worse by going to bed with Amhara– the very people who killed most Eritreans' grandfathers.

After his death, it's going to get interesting with economy in tatters, heavy sanctions, unresolved issues with Mekelle and Addis.

Abiy pretends to love you but never once offered to demarcate the borders. The Amhara still drool over Eritrean ports.

You committed crimes for no good reason. Tigray survived.

I don't insult, I talk facts and analysis. That's why I have top ambassadors and Governments following me on Twitter including Abiy's own teams.
ፈስ!!

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Sadacha Macca » 09 Sep 2021, 16:12

Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:37
Sadacha Macca wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:15
You seem to be very worried about your beloved Tigray. I understand brother. It is indeed sad to see them suffer as a result of mostly their own "leaders" greed, lust for money and power, and so on. TPLF's transgressions against pretty much every neighbor within Ethiopia and the Horn resulted in them being isolated, marginalized and surrounded by hostile foes with scores to settle. They didn't want to coexist in peace with fellow Ethiopians but instead wanted to exploit, subjugate and oppress them.. now they are seeing the fruits that they themselves harvested. Sad but avoidable at the same time.
I hope Tigrayans take a lesson from this tragic ordeal. Do not allow your heroes and freedom fighters to turn into oppressors who exploit and subjugate others in your name/the name of Tigray and Tigrayans. Condemn their crimes and acts of oppression as opposed to blindly backing them because they're your ethnic kin and because you benefit from their innumerable amount of crimes.

The way it looks now, Tigrayans will never ascend to their former position of ruling over others, which is good for the entire region including for themselves. They can contemplate independence but that'd make their situation even worse because what would their borders be and how can they build a viable economy while potentially surrounded on all sides by enemies?
Hmmm. A tough predicament indeed.


Also,

Abiy didn't agree to demarcate borders? Did he not publicly agree to implement the Algiers decision that awarded Badme to Eritrea?
Valid points there Obbo Sadacha.

You have made big progress over the years unlike the above characters. They still angry and only understand limited profanities.

Well done Sadacha.

We are pretty much on the same point but if Tigray repents we will lift them from isolations.

Isolation is only Amhara interests, why weaken the little kid talking on the much bigger bully?

This is an Amhara-Tigrai war portrayed by Bahir Dar and Abiy to look like Ethiopia vs foreign powers.

While we reject return of TPLF, we draw a fine line and differentiate the difference between Amhara's attempts to exterminate Tigray and vending TPLF off.

This is what's making genocidal Amhara uneasy.

Obbo Hawdian, despite your hatred for Oromo's, I try to be objective and fair:

As an Oromo, I do not have problems with Tigrayans, or with Amhara's, the problem was, or is, with the TPLF. I do not expect Tigrayans as a whole nation, to apologize or ''repent,'' for things they had nothing to do with, but unfortunately, since their leaders committed crimes in their name, while the Tigrayans didn't even do as much as protesting with Oromos, Amhara's, and others to condemn those crimes; the People of Tigray were punished as a collective. Leaders, whether they be in Oromia, Amhara, Tigray, Somali state, etc, come and go, but the country, the people, will always be there, will always be neighbors, so I believe that people-to-people relations are more important, than the interests of leaders.

Tigrayans are indeed being collectively punished: Do I wish for that to happen? No, of course not, nobody with a heart, would want to see mothers and children be hungry and suffer, but the Tigrayan's as a whole should have chose justice and solidarity with other Ethiopians, to avoid the situation they're in. This could have been avoided, however, since it is the situation now, they should learn from their lessons, and proceed to try and rectify the problems. This is my advice. Work with your fellow Ethiopians, Tigrayans, because you know, as I know, as even the TPLF elites that remain, know: that your fate, your well being, your prosperity, is more attainable, within the context of a bigger unit, or family-which is Ethiopia. You can be independent, if you want, but even then, you would need to be at peace with Afars and Amharas, perhaps Eritrea, if you wish to focus more on development, and less on war.

If the goal is indeed, as you said, to exterminate Tigray and her people, we should all condemn it-the same way we condemn TPLF for their transgressions. It's quite simple, we should condemn wrongdoing regardless of who does it, even if our own children oppress others, we should condemn it & stop it. BUT, of course, humans for the most part tend to side with their tribe, ethnicity, etc, even in wrong-doing and criminal mischief. It's why Amhara nationalists do not condemn crimes committed by Haile Selassie, it's why some of my own Oromo people may hesitate to condemn some OLF members for their crimes, or even the OPDO's crimes, it's why tigrayans do not condemn tplf's crimes, etc etc etc.

I do not want to see Tigray isolated, but their decisions seem to have got them to where they are now. Their leaders decided to crush any true, popular parties in the various states [OLF in Oromia, ONLF in Somali region, etc], and then installed puppets who would be subservienent to their interests in those regions. Now, look, the same way they did that to others, now Abiy's PP wants to install Tigrayan puppets in Tigray, aka Tigray PP, to rule them! Ironic, ain't it?!

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Re: TPLF is taking heavy losses

Post by Selam/ » 09 Sep 2021, 16:59

Fair enough.

Sadacha Macca wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 16:12
Hawdian wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:37
Sadacha Macca wrote:
09 Sep 2021, 14:15
You seem to be very worried about your beloved Tigray. I understand brother. It is indeed sad to see them suffer as a result of mostly their own "leaders" greed, lust for money and power, and so on. TPLF's transgressions against pretty much every neighbor within Ethiopia and the Horn resulted in them being isolated, marginalized and surrounded by hostile foes with scores to settle. They didn't want to coexist in peace with fellow Ethiopians but instead wanted to exploit, subjugate and oppress them.. now they are seeing the fruits that they themselves harvested. Sad but avoidable at the same time.
I hope Tigrayans take a lesson from this tragic ordeal. Do not allow your heroes and freedom fighters to turn into oppressors who exploit and subjugate others in your name/the name of Tigray and Tigrayans. Condemn their crimes and acts of oppression as opposed to blindly backing them because they're your ethnic kin and because you benefit from their innumerable amount of crimes.

The way it looks now, Tigrayans will never ascend to their former position of ruling over others, which is good for the entire region including for themselves. They can contemplate independence but that'd make their situation even worse because what would their borders be and how can they build a viable economy while potentially surrounded on all sides by enemies?
Hmmm. A tough predicament indeed.


Also,

Abiy didn't agree to demarcate borders? Did he not publicly agree to implement the Algiers decision that awarded Badme to Eritrea?
Valid points there Obbo Sadacha.

You have made big progress over the years unlike the above characters. They still angry and only understand limited profanities.

Well done Sadacha.

We are pretty much on the same point but if Tigray repents we will lift them from isolations.

Isolation is only Amhara interests, why weaken the little kid talking on the much bigger bully?

This is an Amhara-Tigrai war portrayed by Bahir Dar and Abiy to look like Ethiopia vs foreign powers.

While we reject return of TPLF, we draw a fine line and differentiate the difference between Amhara's attempts to exterminate Tigray and vending TPLF off.

This is what's making genocidal Amhara uneasy.

Obbo Hawdian, despite your hatred for Oromo's, I try to be objective and fair:

As an Oromo, I do not have problems with Tigrayans, or with Amhara's, the problem was, or is, with the TPLF. I do not expect Tigrayans as a whole nation, to apologize or ''repent,'' for things they had nothing to do with, but unfortunately, since their leaders committed crimes in their name, while the Tigrayans didn't even do as much as protesting with Oromos, Amhara's, and others to condemn those crimes; the People of Tigray were punished as a collective. Leaders, whether they be in Oromia, Amhara, Tigray, Somali state, etc, come and go, but the country, the people, will always be there, will always be neighbors, so I believe that people-to-people relations are more important, than the interests of leaders.

Tigrayans are indeed being collectively punished: Do I wish for that to happen? No, of course not, nobody with a heart, would want to see mothers and children be hungry and suffer, but the Tigrayan's as a whole should have chose justice and solidarity with other Ethiopians, to avoid the situation they're in. This could have been avoided, however, since it is the situation now, they should learn from their lessons, and proceed to try and rectify the problems. This is my advice. Work with your fellow Ethiopians, Tigrayans, because you know, as I know, as even the TPLF elites that remain, know: that your fate, your well being, your prosperity, is more attainable, within the context of a bigger unit, or family-which is Ethiopia. You can be independent, if you want, but even then, you would need to be at peace with Afars and Amharas, perhaps Eritrea, if you wish to focus more on development, and less on war.

If the goal is indeed, as you said, to exterminate Tigray and her people, we should all condemn it-the same way we condemn TPLF for their transgressions. It's quite simple, we should condemn wrongdoing regardless of who does it, even if our own children oppress others, we should condemn it & stop it. BUT, of course, humans for the most part tend to side with their tribe, ethnicity, etc, even in wrong-doing and criminal mischief. It's why Amhara nationalists do not condemn crimes committed by Haile Selassie, it's why some of my own Oromo people may hesitate to condemn some OLF members for their crimes, or even the OPDO's crimes, it's why tigrayans do not condemn tplf's crimes, etc etc etc.

I do not want to see Tigray isolated, but their decisions seem to have got them to where they are now. Their leaders decided to crush any true, popular parties in the various states [OLF in Oromia, ONLF in Somali region, etc], and then installed puppets who would be subservienent to their interests in those regions. Now, look, the same way they did that to others, now Abiy's PP wants to install Tigrayan puppets in Tigray, aka Tigray PP, to rule them! Ironic, ain't it?!

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