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Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 08 Sep 2021, 09:28

Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

It is clear that Abiy Ahmed is as dictator as both Mengistu and Meles. But, not yet clear is what type of dictator: as ethiofascist as Mengistu to create fake geo-federation dominated by Amharanet or as ethnofascist as Meles trying to keep the existing fake ethnic federalism with the hitherto domination of Amharanet/Amharigna? No question that the already envisioned goal of Oromo liberation movement can be simply put as national self-determination, including and up to national independence (only Oromia), or up to union of free peoples (federal Union) or up to regional integration (only Ethiopia). Based on this general objective of the Oromo people, there are nowadays different organizations operating in the name of Oromo. Even though I believe that one accommodative and inclusive organization is more effective, necessary and even imperative for our struggle towards freedom and sovereignty (type of sovereignty being one of the three: only Oromia, federal Union or only Ethiopia), the currently active different factions and groups of the OLF, and other forces can be empowered separately and encouraged to work together in order to lead us in unison towards our intended destiny.
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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 08 Sep 2021, 12:31

Thanks to Oromo nationalist heroines and heroes, who paid great sacrifice to achieve what we have now in hand, Oromo liberation movement is already at irreversible level. Now we do see almost all Oromo nationals being proud of our identity; especially, the new generation is conscious enough about the necessity of our unconditional freedom from oppressors. The struggle for freedom from the occupying force was going on in different forms. The only difference we observe among different Oromo nationalists is based on diverse views regarding the type of sovereignty we want to realize after achieving freedom: independent Oromia (only Oromia) or union of free nations in Ethiopia (federal Union) or integrated Ethiopia (only Ethiopia). Yet, these three types of sovereignty are not exclusive to each other, but achieving the first can be good prelude to come to the second, and then to move further to the third or vice versa as long as we make no compromise on AAA (Aadaa/culture, Afaan/language & Aangoo/power) of the Oromo in Finfinnee palace. Common denominator for the three is freedom from fascism (i.e power in Caffee Araaraa)!

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by Abere » 08 Sep 2021, 12:46

Orommuma is only possible by ሜንጫ and only ሜንጫ. Until the leader of the ሜንጫ revolution, Jawar Mohammed, is assuming leadership Oromumma remains a pipe dream. My @ss Orommuma, a pie in the sky, its rivers streaming off milk and honey on planet mars, I envisions you sitting under the big cursed fig tree for it will never ever bear fruit. Orommuma the cursed fig tree never to bear fruit until this world passes.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by AbebeB » 08 Sep 2021, 12:53

Abere wrote:
08 Sep 2021, 12:46
Orommuma is only possible by ሜንጫ and only ሜንጫ. Until the leader of the ሜንጫ revolution, Jawar Mohammed, is assuming leadership Oromumma remains a pipe dream. My @ss Orommuma, a pie in the sky, its rivers streaming off milk and honey on planet mars, I envisions you sitting under the big cursed fig tree for it will never ever bear fruit. Orommuma the cursed fig tree never to bear fruit until this world passes.
Abere,
ቆማጣ አማሮች የእኛን ሥራ ለኦሮሞ ሰጠህ ብለው እንዳጮሁብህ እሰጋለሁ፡፡ It is just healthy advise to you seeing you are patient leper

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by Abere » 08 Sep 2021, 13:09

መጀመሪያ ግን በአዲሱ ዓመት ስምህን ለመቀየር ኣላሰብክም? ይኸ አበበ የሚለ ስም ግጥማችሁ አይደለም - መለሥ ዜናዊ ቅያሬ ስሙ አበበ ነበር::

በመቀጠል አማራ የሚለው ስያሜ ሰምን እና ወርቅ አለው - ይኸ በዐማራ ስያሜ ብቻ ይገኛል::

1) አማራ ፡ - የሚያምር: ኣማራ :ውብ :ሸጋ: ጠምበለል: መለሎ :ሎጋ አለንጋ ጣት ማለት ነው ( ሰሙ)::

2) አማራ:- ሲጤን ደግሞ ማለት አም ሃራ ይሆን እና አም ህዝብ ሲሆን ሃራ ደግሞ ነጻ ወይም ሃርነት ያለው ማለት ነው :: በጥቅሉ ነፃ ህዝብ ነው::

አንተ ደግሞ ምን ዓይነት የበታችነት የንዳድ በሽታ እንደ ያዘህ አላውቅም ግብግብ ከማታሸንፈው አማራ ህዝብ ጋር ተያይዘሃል::

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 08 Sep 2021, 13:45

Unfortunately, such a stepwise progress of our liberation movement was inhibited because of real lack of cooperation and coordination among and between the different Oromo political groups. Our beloved liberation front – the OLF – is already divided into different factions based on stressing tendency of the factions towards their chosen single type of sovereignty over the others, despite their common denominator – Oromo freedom. These different factions and groups were wasting most of our talent, resource and time fighting each other, instead of solving our conflict with the Oromo way of discussion (ilaa fi ilaame). Of course, such discord among Oromo liberation camp weakens the necessary strength we need for the struggle. Additionally, Oromo’s current archenemy, Biltsiginna, also works day and night to make sure that Oromo nationalists be so divided, and Oromo national liberation bloc stay as weak as possible.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by AbebeB » 08 Sep 2021, 14:40

OPFist wrote:
08 Sep 2021, 13:45
Unfortunately, such a stepwise progress of our liberation movement was inhibited because of real lack of cooperation and coordination among and between the different Oromo political groups. Our beloved liberation front – the OLF – is already divided into different factions based on stressing tendency of the factions towards their chosen single type of sovereignty over the others, despite their common denominator – Oromo freedom. These different factions and groups were wasting most of our talent, resource and time fighting each other, instead of solving our conflict with the Oromo way of discussion (ilaa fi ilaame). Of course, such discord among Oromo liberation camp weakens the necessary strength we need for the struggle. Additionally, Oromo’s current archenemy, Biltsiginna, also works day and night to make sure that Oromo nationalists be so divided, and Oromo national liberation bloc stay as weak as possible.
OPFist,
There is no divided OLF. Oromo nation knows only one undivided OLF. Dirties will always continue to be cleaned up. Apart from insurgents like OPFist, all nationalist and conscientious Oromos agree on this opinion.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 10 Sep 2021, 12:31

Some genuine Oromo nationalists did recognize this weak status of our  camp and started to look for an alternative way of doing political business. They worked hard to unify the existing different factions and groups so that we could have one relatively stronger and more efficient organization. Despite the efforts, particularly in spite of the hitherto measures taken to re-unify the OLF, which was unsuccessful, even we could observe and register further fragmentization of the vanguard organization. At the time of our desperation, some nationals  tried to find a way out of this quagmire.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 10 Sep 2021, 13:58

One of the forwarded solutions was the functioning #Team Lemma. According to decision of this team, it already issued a call for all concerned Oromo nationals to start debate and discussion on current problem of Oromo people, and on the way how to come up with optimal solution. The different points raised in the statement were crucially important, and indeed it was an inviting message as well as a persuasive assertion.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 10 Sep 2021, 14:37

For some known and unknown reasons, there were certain opposing voices in the Oromo community and in the cyber world against this team. Most of the reasons given are based on the controversial prominent Oromo personalities, who are leading the team. Even one OLF faction, which I do consider as the main stream liberation front, expressed its concern regarding this move of some Oromo nationals. The main question raised  was whether the ongoing discussion benefits or penalizes the already well established part of Oromo struggle. I think the concern is legitimate and needs to be addressed, or must be considered by those who organized the engagement and by those who lead the discussion. No seasoned Oromo nationalist with sound mind does accept any move which can weaken our present power position. Any move towards disregarding the OLF and disarming OLA/WBO is surely doomed to fail.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 10 Sep 2021, 15:52

Yet, we have to be open-minded and look at possible opportunity. It can be right move to solve our national problem and constructive means to bring Oromo nationals together. It may be the means to consolidate and empower the existing OLF and OLA by bringing a lot of non-organized Oromo nationals under one umbrella. I encourage the participants to move from the present discussion of involving only Oromo individuals to dialogue among Oromo institutions and organizations, especially by inviting the different factions and groups of Oromo  movement to join the call.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 10 Sep 2021, 17:22

One of the reasons raised to oppose the ongoing call is the allegation saying that some elites reject the goal of an ‘independent Oromia’ in favor of supporting the union of free peoples. Thus, such elites are accused as betrayers, capitulationists, collaborators, defeatists, Ethiopianists, foes, Gobanas, revisionists, etc. Interestingly, we observe a double-standard regarding such labellings. For certain criticizers, the members and supporters of OFC were Ethiopianists, while those within the OLF are not; or the vice versa is true, despite the fact that both groups were said to prefer union to independence. An important question to be answered here should be: are the leaders and partakers really Ethiopianists in a negative sense? To answer this basic question, we need to define two terms, Ethiopia and Ethiopianist, operationally.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by Educator » 10 Sep 2021, 17:30

This liar dictator Mamo Killo is Meles' child . Mengistu is a much better dictator who loves his country and did what he thought was good for Ethiopia and its people. But he was sabotaged by the woyane and Shabia poisonous snakes that did breed the current satanic snake called Abiy aka zinabu aka Mamo Killo aka liar conman wannabe 7th king.


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Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

It is clear that Abiy Ahmed is as dictator as both Mengistu and Meles. But, not yet clear is what type of dictator: as ethiofascist as Mengistu to create fake geo-federation dominated by Amharanet or as ethnofascist as Meles trying to keep the existing fake ethnic federalism with the hitherto domination of Amharanet/Amharigna? No question that the already envisioned goal of Oromo liberation movement can be simply put as national self-determination, including and up to national independence (only Oromia), or up to union of free peoples (federal Union) or up to regional integration (only Ethiopia). Based on this general objective of the Oromo people, there are nowadays different organizations operating in the name of Oromo. Even though I believe that one accommodative and inclusive organization is more effective, necessary and even imperative for our struggle towards freedom and sovereignty (type of sovereignty being one of the three: only Oromia, federal Union or only Ethiopia), the currently active different factions and groups of the OLF, and other forces can be empowered separately and encouraged to work together in order to lead us in unison towards our intended destiny.
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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 11 Sep 2021, 01:48

The name Ethiopia seems to be defined in two ways according to Oromo nationalists involved in the hot discussion regarding the merit and demerit of the prosperity Party. One group of Oromo nationalists defines Ethiopia as the name of a territory, and thus being Ethiopianist is not as such a problem as long as political conviction of the concerned nationals promotes the goal of ‘free Oromia within a union.’ The other group of Oromo nationalists defines Ethiopia as system of colonization or system of domination, and this group demonizes those Oromo nationals taking part in entertaining Ethiopia as keepers of this system. Here again, another further question to be answered can be: are the leaders and participants of the prosperity Party really Ethioianists in a sense of one definition or in terms of both definitions?

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 11 Sep 2021, 05:25

I personally think that pro-union Oromo nationalists are not necessarily die-hard keepers of the domination system, but they are simply in favor of a possible union of free peoples in federal arrangement. As long as they believe in Oromo freedom and Oromia’s self-rule, be it within a union or without a union, they are part and parcel of Oromo liberation movement. Those who do believe in an independent Oromia can compete with these unionists when the time for referendum comes, but trying to demonize the unionists as “Ethiopianists” in a sense of keeping the system of colonization is, simply put, unfair. I just want to suggest for the pro-independence Oromo forces to have additionally our own dialogue forum among the different fragmentalized factions and groups, which want to promote independence. Then, there can be a possibility for necessary cooperation, in the future, between such purely pro-independence forum and the pro-union prosperity Party.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 11 Sep 2021, 14:39

In case pro-independence and pro-union forces will have their separate dialogue forums as suggested here, yet unity for freedom between the two, having freedom as their common denominator, was mandatory to get rid of  Biltsiginna. That is why Oromo people tried to persuade our organizations to build an imperative unity of Oromo liberation forces. Unfortunately, now it seems that such structural unity is almost impossible. Thus, we are demanding, as plan-B, ‘group of 11’ within one team of Oromo liberation movement, suggesting the importance of networking eleven organizations to struggle in unison against the archenemy. We mean by this: our different factions and groups of Oromo liberation movement can be as many as eleven if necessary, but they should learn to play harmoniously together just like eleven individuals in a soccer team do and they have to keep the victor over the Abyssinian team of colonization and oppression.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 11 Sep 2021, 17:22

It is only through such unity or alliance of Oromo groups in one national team, that we can maintain the victory. Oromo people seem to have already put the solution for our problem in a short saying: “walii galan, alaa galan” (united, we stand). For the Oromo as bigger collective (as a nation) to be free, there is no alternative to this unity of purpose to come out of the oppression. That is the main reason for the necessity of an imperative dialogue among different Oromo individuals and institutions. Thus, I do see no compelling reason to oppose any sort of dialogue blindly in general, and to vilify some elites in particular. Thus #Team Lemma’s call for working with all Oromo organizations to promote Oromo interest should be supported and welcomed. I see that there is no forum with an intention to prohibit our move to bilisummaa (freedom). In general, any sort of coming together of Oromo liberation groups need to be encouraged, because such unity of purpose is necessary for success.

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Re: Is Abiy Ahmed an Ethiofascist Mengistu-2 or an Ethnofascist Meles-2?

Post by OPFist » 11 Sep 2021, 18:23

Last, but not least, there are two universal facts, which we as a nation have to recognize, accept and realize: ‘unity is strength’ and ‘might is right.’ Simply put, there is no national right for the Oromo without empowering the people in order to have might or strength. One way of strengthening Oromo nation is by fostering unity of purpose among all the fragmented political groups. I think the already started call from Team Lemma of can help this be materialized. Despite the concerns and fears expressed up to now, let’s go on and make constructive dialogue. As one Oromo proverb describes: ‘dubbii baha hin dhowwan, galma dhorku malee’ = it is not good to hinder beginning of any discussion, but important is to influence its outcome. Whether the already started move of Team Lemma is so bad to prohibit or good enough to promote freedom and democracy in Oromia/Ethiopia will be seen in the future process. It is up to us, Oromo nationalists, to determine whether we can use the well performing team as an instrument either for negative prohibition or for positive promotion of our national purpose to achieve freedom. During our efforts to promote Oromo cause, may Waaqa help us utilize the team in order to promote, but not to prohibit freedom and democracy in Ethiopia! Unfortunately Abiy’s OPP betrayed the Oromo cause and Abiy himsel chose to be either Meles-2 or Mengistu-2!

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