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If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Dejach Aklilu » 01 Jul 2021, 17:27

Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew.

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu. The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest. The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done. Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Economist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword. Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election. We are rewarding people who fail us. Every major political and civic group should call for this EPRDF clone biltsigina collective to go. Under them we are no longer sleepwalking towards disintegration but rather sprinting. If there are any sane folks within biltsigina or the army, they should smell what’s about to come, they need to sideline the PM and his joke of an election victory and push for an all inclusive national government to boost morale and avert the inevitable further serious of more debacles which may end up being terminal.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Cigar » 01 Jul 2021, 17:54

I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Abe Abraham » 01 Jul 2021, 17:55

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:27
Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew. ( Deja, you have to do some thinking. Do you know what many soliders of the NC did after they were betrayed,tortured, made bare naked and disarmed by the Junta ? They fled to Eritrea, got an excellent treatment there, reorganized themselves and returned to Tigray and kicked the ኣsses of the Junta criminals. Do you also know what Tsadqan,Getachew,Megbey said about the military situation in Tigray : once the Eritrean army leaves Tigray we can defeat the Ethiopian army within a very short time. )

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu ( That is not true. If they do not want to listen to you, even the highest diplomacy wouldn't work. It is a question of chosing sides. ) The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest ( That is incorrect. Your formulation is wrong. ) The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done ( THE MEDIA is not independent and not interested in facts. BBC,ECONOMIST,ALJAZEERA ...work for the West and the American propaganda. ) Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Economist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword ( I do not know why you are comparing Israel and Ethiopia. The example is wrong. ) Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle ( Debacle, which debacle ? ) we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election. ( Who do you want to win the elections ? Who was excluded from running that you want to win the elections ? )

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by temari » 01 Jul 2021, 18:00

Dejach Aklilu, I agree with you on two points but disagree on the third one.
1. He should have not lied about the existence of the Eritrean troops in Tigray, agreed! He lost so much credibility for lying many times and still wonders why the west is not believing his narrative.

2. On the diplomatic front, his administration is one of the most useless, I agree. In fact I have pointed out else where we have no foreign minister. This important position is vacant and even the PM don't understand that we are a country without a foreign minister that deserves his name.

3. On your 3. point, I disagree. Even if it sounds very twisted and crazy, I think the narrative of withdrawing "in defeat" helps PM Aiby more than anything to achieve his goal in Tigray and even if I'm not sure if he really thought like that but he relieved himself from the responsibility of feeding and caring for the people of Tigray by looking unable to stay in Tigray. Otherwise the west and the US will always demand that he go and fix things in Tigray whenever things go wrong and would have been blamed for everything that goes wrong in Tigray.

Now that he is "forced out" and is unable to stay and has declared a unilateral ceasefire which normally defeated armies declare, he is in perfect position to get the sanctions lifted and at the same time shoulder no burden about the crises in Tigray. The narrative of defeat was very important so that he get rid of all the blame for Tigray. I think TPLF run into the trap of being responsible for Tigray from now on without thinking too far and in my view without having any resources to shoulder the burden. From now on TPLF will be blamed for everything that goes wrong in Tigray. What PM Abiy did was just switch the responsibility of everything in Tigray from him to TPLF. Now he is out. Without being "defeated" and being seen as weak this would have never been accepted by the IC. I think he is very near to reach his goal of getting rid of the sanctions and at the same time being no more responsible for what goes bad in Tigray. He is out! This calculation only works if he tries to show that he is unable to even to access Tigray.

The narrative of victorious departure would have mean that as a government, you are always responsible for guaranteeing humanitarian access, security and what not. As a weak government, you are relieved from all those burdens. I'm not saying the PM thinks like that but he is very near to reach his goal of the sanctions being lifted and not being blamed for everything in Tigray exactly because he is "forced out".

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:27
Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew.

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu. The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest. The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done. Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Economist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword. Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election.
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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by DefendTheTruth » 01 Jul 2021, 18:06

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:27
Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew.

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu. The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest. The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done. Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Economist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword. Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election. We are rewarding people who fail us. Every major political and civic group should call for this EPRDF clone biltsigina collective to go. Under them we are no longer sleepwalking towards disintegration but rather sprinting. If there are any sane folks within biltsigina or the army, they should smell what’s about to come, they need to sideline the PM and his joke of an election victory and push for an all inclusive national government to boost morale and avert the inevitable further serious of more debacles which may end up being terminal.
You could have moved your behind better and contested instead of sitting idle all along and coming back with your endless complaint about "uncontested election". It is your failure. Everybody said the election was better than its predecessors in terms of fairness and degree of free from interference.

You still keep complaining because it is your habit.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by sun » 01 Jul 2021, 18:24

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:27
Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew.

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu. The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest. The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done. Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Eco and nomist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword. Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election.
The so called "debacle" if any, is a cumulative sum of multiple long lasting preceding debacles that kept mamma Ethiopia wretched and impoverished for very long time and PM Abiyy inherited them and doing his job excellently, if we don't count power hungry envious evil Judas trying to take political advantages out of the ongoing local and global forward marching activities. As for the question of who did what, to whom and when will in the future get exposed slowly but surely. The experienced and expert PM should rule for about 16 years after which time we may have sufficient data for assessing his deeds and misdeeds.

His Majesty the Lion of Judea ruled for about 50 years and all these time did not even plant a single tree in order to make his empire green and fertile. Chairman Mengistu ruled for about 17 years with out planting a single tree but only uprooting people and plants and making Mamma Ethiopia a hated barren land. Then came Meles Zenawi and his tplf party who ruled for about 38 years and built massive jails and concentration camps where people's hands and legs were chopped off and nails uprooted from the roots while Mamma Ethiopia become even more barren and dry hopeless wasteland. All of these former governments were only milking hard Mamma Ethiopia and busy keeping the Mamma wretched and poor, to the extent that Mamma Ethiopia's banks were robbed and emptied at the time when tplf left Finfinne the great and PM Abiy took over a practically impoverished and dying Mamma Ethiopia.

But then the PM came to power busy planting trees and raising funds locally and globally and started injecting life to the body of Mamma Ethiopia where hopelessness got replaced by hope and by healing power as the country have gone through the first free and fair well contested election for the first time in 3000 years. Now again the next election will be even more refined and structured as our democratic behaviors and practices start gathering experiences and confidences. Elections can be very difficult even in countries with some 200 years of electoral system experiences as their parliaments are still occasionally being savagely raided every now and then.

Current Mamma Ethiopia's election being the first of its kind deserves glittering Gold Medal Award for such peaceful and dignified election even if may not be perfect, is making Ethiopia shine like the stars in the sky. Hopefully envious and pathologically jealous may not read this nice comment and get heart attack for nothing.


So we may sing, dance and laugh: :lol: :lol:

Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!
Up above the world so high,
Like a diamond in the sky.

When the blazing sun is gone,
When he nothing shines upon,
Then you show your little light,
Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.

Then the traveler in the dark
Thanks you for your tiny spark,
How could he see where to go,
If you did not twinkle so?

In the dark blue sky you keep,
Often through my curtains peep
For you never shut your eye,
Till the sun is in the sky.

As your bright and tiny spark
Lights the traveler in the dark,
Though I know not what you are,
Twinkle, twinkle, little star.
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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Dejach Aklilu » 01 Jul 2021, 18:28

Cigar wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:54
I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
You admitted not reading the whole text. Read it before commenting. His cardinal sin is not allowing Eritrean troops in, as a sovereign country Ethiopia can invite any army it wants including Eritrean. My issue is with his delusional belief of doing it secretly, then lying to his own kangaroo zombie parliament, his own cabinet, his own sycophantic advisers who were forced to go out into the media and claim there are no Eritrean troops only to do an embarrassing 180 two weeks later. No diplomat is gonna take what you say seriously after such a school boy error.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Dejach Aklilu » 01 Jul 2021, 18:55

Abe Abraham wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:55
Deja, you have to do some thinking. Do you know what many soliders of the NC did after they were betrayed,tortured, made bare naked and disarmed by the Junta ? They fled to Eritrea, got an excellent treatment there, reorganized themselves and returned to Tigray and kicked the ኣsses of the Junta criminals. Do you also know what Tsadqan,Getachew,Megbey said about the military situation in Tigray : once the Eritrean army leaves Tigray we can defeat the Ethiopian army within a very short time. )
My issue is not with the Eritrean troops being in Tigray. I couldn’t care less if Isaias settles old scores with TPLF. That’s the least TPLF deserves. There were other clandestine ways of allowing Eritrean involvement. But if you are gonna allow full troops in you have to prepare for the diplomatic fallout and our PM wasn’t, his grand plan was to simply deny, lie and hope the problem goes away, surprising that a former intelligence office with a PhD in cryptography could be this much of a simpleton.

Abe Abraham wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:55
That is not true. If they do not want to listen to you, even the highest diplomacy wouldn't work. It is a question of chosing sides. ) THE MEDIA is not independent and not interested in facts. BBC,ECONOMIST,ALJAZEERA ...work for the West and the American propaganda. )
Wrong again bob, yes the media is not independent, we agree on that and they have biases. But you seem to suggest that these western media outlets are a lost cause because they have “chosen sides”. No, it’s not because they have chosen sides but they have a bias towards the sensational. They would rather report on an army commiting atrocities, mass rape and waging starvation rather than report on army “enforcing law and order” . This bias coupled with the non existent media work from the ethiopian government side led to a slanted coverage. Even if we assume these outlets have chosen sides, do you really blame them for declaring TPLF the victors when the government decided to withdraw with zero explanation leaving it’s own supporters with utter bemusement let alone media outlets which have “chosen sides”.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Wedi » 01 Jul 2021, 19:17

Dejach Aklilu, well written piece. I can't add any. Thank you.
Abiy Ahmed has committed treason on our country and on our people. If we did not have puppet and useless parliament, Abiy Ahmed couldn't have spent a single night on power.

Remember what he said "መቀሌ/ትግራይ የገባነው የተወሰዱብን መሳርያና ትጥቅ ለማስመለስ እና ይዘን ለመውጣት ነው"

በትግራይ ውስጥ ባሉ ዮኒቨርስቲዎች ውስጥ እየተማሩ ያሉ ኢትዮጵያውን የዩኒቨርስቲ ተማሪዎች ለአሸባሪው ህወሃት እያረደ እንዲገላቸው ጥሎ ነው የወጣው!! ይህ ራሱ እጅግ አሳፋሪ ወንጀል ነው፡፡ አብይ አህመድ አሁን በወንጀሉ ባይጠየቅ ወደፊት ይጠየቀባት!! በርካታ ወንጆች እና የንጹሃን ደም በእጁ አለበት!!

Here is one university student killed by TPLF in Tigray after they abandoned y Abiy Ahmed
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Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:27
Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew.

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu. The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest. The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done. Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Economist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword. Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election. We are rewarding people who fail us. Every major political and civic group should call for this EPRDF clone biltsigina collective to go. Under them we are no longer sleepwalking towards disintegration but rather sprinting. If there are any sane folks within biltsigina or the army, they should smell what’s about to come, they need to sideline the PM and his joke of an election victory and push for an all inclusive national government to boost morale and avert the inevitable further serious of more debacles which may end up being terminal.
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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by sun » 01 Jul 2021, 19:23

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:28
Cigar wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:54
I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
You admitted not reading the whole text. Read it before commenting. His cardinal sin is not allowing Eritrean troops in, as a sovereign country Ethiopia can invite any army it wants including Eritrean. My issue is with his delusional belief of doing it secretly, then lying to his own kangaroo zombie parliament, his own cabinet, his own sycophantic advisers who were forced to go out into the media and claim there are no Eritrean troops only to do an embarrassing 180 two weeks later. No diplomat is gonna take what you say seriously after such a school boy error.
This shows that you have immature highly biased brain because every government and its leaders have sensitive classified subjects that are meant to be disclosed on the basis of "need to know" Did the tplf tell the federal government its intentions to infiltrate the army, steal arms and ammunition, isolate non Tigryan army members, etc. while preparing for an all out assault on the military base capturing them totally unaware. Add to this the brutal shooting of missiles from secret locations multiple times towards Eritrea and Gondar. Did the tplf announce its plans and activities publicly? Tplf did all these and other criminal activities secretively and with out announcement so that various opponents may not quickly react effectively and render them useless. Only last class fool will come out and explain his/her battle strategies and war plans in detail and prematurely.

The tplf wanted that publicity instantly and desperately just to claim that the war is regional and international, for which reason they need international help. That is also why the tplf kept shooting missiles against Eritrea so that Eritrea get outraged and respond violently and instantly. So why help the tplf by instantly by quickly telling that Eritreans are involved from the start. It is not at all a surprise if Eritreans got involved but rather the surprise is if Eritreans did not get involved.

In your case also you might be crying high and loud with tears streaming down your cheeks even if the presence of Eritreans were made public at the very start, this time moaning about the premature divulges of military and alliance secrets during ongoing active combat operations. Admit it, you are just a tormented born to moan and complain jute bag who turn let and lie, turn right and lie and turn round and lie without having an iota of information as to why people in active duties decide the way they decide about their ongoing activities during crises times
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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Abe Abraham » 01 Jul 2021, 19:31

sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:24
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:27
Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew.

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu. The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest. The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done. Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Eco and nomist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword. Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election.
The so called "debacle" if any, is a cumulative sum of multiple long lasting preceding debacles that kept mamma Ethiopia wretched and impoverished for very long time and PM Abiyy inherited them and doing his job excellently, if we don't count power hungry envious evil Judas trying to take political advantages out of the ongoing local and global forward marching activities. As for the question of who did what, to whom and when will in the future get exposed slowly but surely. The experienced and expert PM should rule for about 16 years after which time we may have sufficient data for assessing his deeds and misdeeds.

His Majesty the Lion of Judea ruled for about 50 years and all these time did not even plant a single tree in order to make his empire green and fertile. Chairman Mengistu ruled for about 17 years with out planting a single tree but only uprooting people and plants and making Mamma Ethiopia a hated barren land. Then came Meles Zenawi and his tplf party who ruled for about 38 years and built massive jails and concentration camps where people's hands and legs were chopped off and nails uprooted from the roots while Mamma Ethiopia become even more barren and dry hopeless wasteland. All of these former governments were only milking hard Mamma Ethiopia and busy keeping the Mamma wretched and poor, to the extent that Mamma Ethiopia's banks were robbed and emptied at the time when tplf left Finfinne the great and PM Abiy took over a practically impoverished and dying Mamma Ethiopia.

But then the PM came to power busy planting trees and raising funds locally and globally and started injecting life to the body of Mamma Ethiopia where hopelessness got replaced by hope and by healing power as the country have gone through the first free and fair well contested election for the first time in 3000 years. Now again the next election will be even more refined and structured as our democratic behaviors and practices start gathering experiences and confidences. Elections can be very difficult even in countries with some 200 years of electoral system experiences as their parliaments are still occasionally being savagely raided every now and then.

Current Mamma Ethiopia's election being the first of its kind deserves glittering Gold Medal Award for such peaceful and dignified election even if may not be perfect, is making Ethiopia shine like the stars in the sky. Hopefully envious and pathologically jealous may not read this nice comment and get heart attack for nothing.


So we may sing, dance and laugh: :lol: :lol:

Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!
Up above the world so high,
Like a diamond in the sky.

When the blazing sun is gone,
When he nothing shines upon,
Then you show your little light,
Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.

Then the traveler in the dark
Thanks you for your tiny spark,
How could he see where to go,
If you did not twinkle so?

In the dark blue sky you keep,
Often through my curtains peep
For you never shut your eye,
Till the sun is in the sky.

As your bright and tiny spark
Lights the traveler in the dark,
Though I know not what you are,
Twinkle, twinkle, little star.
:lol: :lol:
Current Mamma Ethiopia's election being the first of its kind deserves glittering Gold Medal Award for such peaceful and dignified election even if may not be perfect, is making Ethiopia shine like the stars in the sky. Hopefully envious and pathologically jealous may not read this nice comment and get heart attack for nothing.
I share you optimism based on facts. If people make their own choice while excluding the extremists then you have an excellent chance to develop a democatic system. In the recent elections the Ethiopian people demonstrated their maturity by excluding the extremists. That is very important.

In Egypt democratic elections failed because the Egyptians embraced the extremists and the divisive elements in their society.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Dejach Aklilu » 01 Jul 2021, 19:52

sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:23
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:28
Cigar wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:54
I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
You admitted not reading the whole text. Read it before commenting. His cardinal sin is not allowing Eritrean troops in, as a sovereign country Ethiopia can invite any army it wants including Eritrean. My issue is with his delusional belief of doing it secretly, then lying to his own kangaroo zombie parliament, his own cabinet, his own sycophantic advisers who were forced to go out into the media and claim there are no Eritrean troops only to do an embarrassing 180 two weeks later. No diplomat is gonna take what you say seriously after such a school boy error.
This shows that you have immature highly biased brain because every government and its leaders have sensitive classified subjects that are meant to be disclosed on the basis of "need to know" .
only your sycophantic dumbass think you can hide the existence of foreign troops from US satellites by classifying it and disclosing it on a need to know bases. Has it occurred to you the US government receives round the clock, time stamped troop and vehicle movements across every international border including the Ethio-Eritrean one. Whether the PM classifies or declassify shiit, it makes no difference, since Eritrean troop involvement is soon gonna be revealed anyway.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Abdisa » 01 Jul 2021, 20:26

The Dejazmach who deep in his heart believes that the United States owns Ethiopia, and insists on inflicting his belief on others, had the audacity to talk about "self worth" when he has none. It is people with such faulty mindset that have allowed the TPLF to rule the country for 27 long years by being complacent.

Most European countries are trying to project a racially tolerant image by deliberately having one black player on their National Football teams, in much the same way that the G-20 countries had invited the agame Meles Zenawi to attend their summit, fully aware that such gloss over effect may not fool the African critical thinkers, but it sure wins the hearts and minds of the many Dejazmaches who consider Africans withholding information from white folks are committing the Neo-colonial cardinal sin.
:lol: :lol:

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Fiyameta » 01 Jul 2021, 20:37

It was the TPLF who invited our Eritrean Defense Forces into Tigray by firing rockets into Eritrean territories. We grudgingly accepted their invitation and made the best out of the bad situation by vaporizing those who sent us the invites. አይጥ ሞቷን ስትሽ የድመት አፍንጫ ታሸታለች ይባላል አይደል? :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by sun » 01 Jul 2021, 20:39

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:52
sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:23
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:28
Cigar wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:54
I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
You admitted not reading the whole text. Read it before commenting. His cardinal sin is not allowing Eritrean troops in, as a sovereign country Ethiopia can invite any army it wants including Eritrean. My issue is with his delusional belief of doing it secretly, then lying to his own kangaroo zombie parliament, his own cabinet, his own sycophantic advisers who were forced to go out into the media and claim there are no Eritrean troops only to do an embarrassing 180 two weeks later. No diplomat is gonna take what you say seriously after such a school boy error.
This shows that you have immature highly biased brain because every government and its leaders have sensitive classified subjects that are meant to be disclosed on the basis of "need to know" .
only your sycophantic dumbass think you can hide the existence of foreign troops from US satellites by classifying it and disclosing it on a need to know bases. Has it occurred to you the US government receives round the clock, time stamped troop and vehicle movements across every international border including the Ethio-Eritrean one. Whether the PM classifies or declassify shiit, it makes no difference, since Eritrean troop involvement is soon gonna be revealed anyway.
You dumb ar$$$ freaking mad foaming baboon . Did they see then when your tplf lords were shooting multiple forbidden missiles towards Eritrea and Gondar, the holy city of atse bakkafaa? If they saw that then why not refer the tplf goats to the International Criminal Court (ICC) and have them condemned and put behind bars like Mr. Milosevic, or you mean that their observation is selective only because your low IQ self centered memory is dirt biased and selective?

Are you talking about foreign troops in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan,etc, because Eritrea and Ethiopia may not be considered as foreign in the true sense of the word because we are immediate neighbors and even speak the same language, sharing borders, cultures, foods, songs, melodies, sufferings and happiness. Instead of sitting idle on your ar$$$ and keep complaining day and night why the fck don't you go and plant trees to reduce your stress so that Mamma Ethiopia may become green, fertile, healthy, wealthy and happy?
Shelemixmaax moshlaaqqaa Ximb Xooxaa aynet astesaaseb ekko new yaalleh! :mrgreen:
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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Abe Abraham » 01 Jul 2021, 20:48

temari wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:00
Dejach Aklilu, I agree with you on two points but disagree on the third one.
1. He should have not lied about the existence of the Eritrean troops in Tigray, agreed! He lost so much credibility for lying many times and still wonders why the west is not believing his narrative.

2. On the diplomatic front, his administration is one of the most useless, I agree. In fact I have pointed out else where we have no foreign minister. This important position is vacant and even the PM don't understand that we are a country without a foreign minister that deserves his name.

3. On your 3. point, I disagree. Even if it sounds very twisted and crazy, I think the narrative of withdrawing "in defeat" helps PM Aiby more than anything to achieve his goal in Tigray and even if I'm not sure if he really thought like that but he relieved himself from the responsibility of feeding and caring for the people of Tigray by looking unable to stay in Tigray. Otherwise the west and the US will always demand that he go and fix things in Tigray whenever things go wrong and would have been blamed for everything that goes wrong in Tigray.

Now that he is "forced out" and is unable to stay and has declared a unilateral ceasefire which normally defeated armies declare, he is in perfect position to get the sanctions lifted and at the same time shoulder no burden about the crises in Tigray. The narrative of defeat was very important so that he get rid of all the blame for Tigray. I think TPLF run into the trap of being responsible for Tigray from now on without thinking too far and in my view without having any resources to shoulder the burden. From now on TPLF will be blamed for everything that goes wrong in Tigray. What PM Abiy did was just switch the responsibility of everything in Tigray from him to TPLF. Now he is out. Without being "defeated" and being seen as weak this would have never been accepted by the IC. I think he is very near to reach his goal of getting rid of the sanctions and at the same time being no more responsible for what goes bad in Tigray. He is out! This calculation only works if he tries to show that he is unable to even to access Tigray.

The narrative of victorious departure would have mean that as a government, you are always responsible for guaranteeing humanitarian access, security and what not. As a weak government, you are relieved from all those burdens. I'm not saying the PM thinks like that but he is very near to reach his goal of the sanctions being lifted and not being blamed for everything in Tigray exactly because he is "forced out".

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:27
Instead the PM is preparing to govern for another five years. Da faq is wrong with us????? He got every major decision wrong, the man has no judgement and has the strategic thought of a dead rotting fish on a sidewalk.

Cardinal sin #1 - what the heckkkk was he thinking letting Eritrean troops into Tigray, rollin a red carpet for them then denying their existence to the US. Does he not know the US have satellite imagery. For fliiip sake, this man was supposedly an army cornel and has a PhD in cryptography. The sad thing is neither the parliament nor his closest advisors knew Eritreans were in Tigray, they all found out from America. What a joke. I would be surprised even if his deputy Demeke knew.

Cardinal sin #2 - PM Abiy has without a doubt the lowest diplomatic acumen of any ethiopian leader past and present including Mengistu. The army won every single battle to rout TPLF, Abiy lost every single diplomatic and PR contest. The straw that broke the camels back was the PR debacle that was the withdrawal. The lawd only knows what type of media relation the man is following but to withdraw form Mekele and wait a full 2 days to give an explanation is beyond comical. Homie gave the enemy a two day window so they can declare victory and have ore than enough time to define the narrative, which is exactly what they have done. Scour the media today, from the BBC, WSJ, Economist, Al Jazeera have all declared TPLF the victors, handed to them wholly by the PM. This is the only war i have seen where the vanquished are writing the history and the victor is bungling every move hopelessly.

Let’s put this into an international context, in 1997 Israel tried to poison a hamas official in Jordan. The attempt failed and the Israelis were forced to handover the antidote for the poison as well as release a number of hamas detainees. A self respecting country that is Israel immediately forced the guy who oversaw the assassination to fall on his sword. Someone paid for costing the country. When it comes to the debacle we witnessed in Ethiopia, who is responsible? Who is gonna fall on their sword instead we are clamouring to congratulate the bungling PM on winning a non contested election.
Ethiopia is not America. You do not expect the prime minister to come out and announce that the Ethiopian army and its allies were about to carry out a policing operation against the criminal elements in Tigray aka Junta, do you ? Surprise element is very important in such undertakings. What was achieved in 17 days is amazing. The complaint about lying is disingenuous and is more or less parroting the propaganda machine of the Junta.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by sun » 01 Jul 2021, 20:49

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:52
sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:23
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:28
Cigar wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:54
I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
You admitted not reading the whole text. Read it before commenting. His cardinal sin is not allowing Eritrean troops in, as a sovereign country Ethiopia can invite any army it wants including Eritrean. My issue is with his delusional belief of doing it secretly, then lying to his own kangaroo zombie parliament, his own cabinet, his own sycophantic advisers who were forced to go out into the media and claim there are no Eritrean troops only to do an embarrassing 180 two weeks later. No diplomat is gonna take what you say seriously after such a school boy error.
This shows that you have immature highly biased brain because every government and its leaders have sensitive classified subjects that are meant to be disclosed on the basis of "need to know" .
only your sycophantic dumbass think you can hide the existence of foreign troops from US satellites by classifying it and disclosing it on a need to know bases. Has it occurred to you the US government receives round the clock, time stamped troop and vehicle movements across every international border including the Ethio-Eritrean one. Whether the PM classifies or declassify shiit, it makes no difference, since Eritrean troop involvement is soon gonna be revealed anyway.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Cigar » 01 Jul 2021, 20:54

Dejach, I don't need to read your full biased and bu*tt hurt statements. Like I said 'first impression is a lasting impression" as they say.
You said why PMAA let Eritrean troops inside a sovereign Ethiopia and not why he didn't let the parliament know about it.
You said he rolled red carpet for Eritrean troops. If you are Ethiopian and believe woyane's evil intentions you should have be a part of the red carpet layers.
If you are not pis*sed off that your woyane failed from accomplishing its evil deed, you should just have said why didn't he tell them with out making it appear as if Eritrea violated its friendly nation territories when all Eritrea did was to extinguish fire of a neighboring family and the family on fire appreciates the help.
Don't freaking weasel out from you intent.
And like some form members told you, all nations keep confidential issues.
I hope you open up a thread about real LIES of woyane and show your disgust though.
At least he did it to save Ethiopia unlike your nasty woynes who almost convinced your white masters as if the Ethio govt is upto eliminate you chenewtyi, funfunat aliet tegarus when clearly the troops were taking care of your ungrateful filthy agames and risking their lives to go to monkeys holes and branches to kill or arrest the junta, terrorists and shiftas.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by Dejach Aklilu » 01 Jul 2021, 21:02

sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 20:39
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:52
sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:23
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:28
Cigar wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:54
I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
You admitted not reading the whole text. Read it before commenting. His cardinal sin is not allowing Eritrean troops in, as a sovereign country Ethiopia can invite any army it wants including Eritrean. My issue is with his delusional belief of doing it secretly, then lying to his own kangaroo zombie parliament, his own cabinet, his own sycophantic advisers who were forced to go out into the media and claim there are no Eritrean troops only to do an embarrassing 180 two weeks later. No diplomat is gonna take what you say seriously after such a school boy error.
This shows that you have immature highly biased brain because every government and its leaders have sensitive classified subjects that are meant to be disclosed on the basis of "need to know" .
only your sycophantic dumbass think you can hide the existence of foreign troops from US satellites by classifying it and disclosing it on a need to know bases. Has it occurred to you the US government receives round the clock, time stamped troop and vehicle movements across every international border including the Ethio-Eritrean one. Whether the PM classifies or declassify shiit, it makes no difference, since Eritrean troop involvement is soon gonna be revealed anyway.
You dumb ar$$$ freaking mad foaming baboon . Did they see then when your tplf lords were shooting multiple forbidden missiles towards Eritrea and Gondar, the holy city of atse bakkafaa? If they saw that then why not refer the tplf goats to the International Criminal Court (ICC) and have them condemned and put behind bars like Mr. Milosevic, or you mean that their observation is selective only because your low IQ self centered memory is dirt biased and selective?

Are you talking about foreign troops in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan,etc, because Eritrea and Ethiopia may not be considered as foreign in the true sense of the word because we are immediate neighbors and even speak the same language, sharing borders, cultures, foods, songs, melodies, sufferings and happiness. Instead of sitting idle on your ar$$$ and keep complaining day and night why the fck don't you go and plant trees to reduce your stress so that Mamma Ethiopia may become green, fertile, healthy, wealthy and happy?[/b] Shelemixmaax moshlaaqqaa Ximb Xooxaa! :mrgreen:


The country is on the brink, limping from crises to crises and this negro is obsessed with planting trees. Yep, the titanic is sinking yet homeboy is studiously re arranging the chairs.

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Re: If we Ethiopians were people with self worth...we would have forced Abiy from power for presiding over this debacle

Post by sun » 01 Jul 2021, 21:13

Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 21:02
sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 20:39
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:52
sun wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 19:23
Dejach Aklilu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 18:28
Cigar wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:54
I didn't read all your thread. I stopped when you said that he (PMAA) didn't fight against Eritrea when Eritrea crossed ethio border to render help.
Did it cross your mind, first that both countries signed military co-operation, secondly did you forget that the bu*tt naked chased ethio troops first crossed the Eritrean border, third had Eritrea didn't neutrize woyans, woyane with the stolen sophisticated arms would have overthrown the ethio govt and Ethiopia would have been ruled by woyane.
Now, your problem is why he denied the Eritrean woyane as*s spanking or the failure of woyane overtaking Ethiopia and that is making you sad?
You admitted not reading the whole text. Read it before commenting. His cardinal sin is not allowing Eritrean troops in, as a sovereign country Ethiopia can invite any army it wants including Eritrean. My issue is with his delusional belief of doing it secretly, then lying to his own kangaroo zombie parliament, his own cabinet, his own sycophantic advisers who were forced to go out into the media and claim there are no Eritrean troops only to do an embarrassing 180 two weeks later. No diplomat is gonna take what you say seriously after such a school boy error.
This shows that you have immature highly biased brain because every government and its leaders have sensitive classified subjects that are meant to be disclosed on the basis of "need to know" .
only your sycophantic dumbass think you can hide the existence of foreign troops from US satellites by classifying it and disclosing it on a need to know bases. Has it occurred to you the US government receives round the clock, time stamped troop and vehicle movements across every international border including the Ethio-Eritrean one. Whether the PM classifies or declassify shiit, it makes no difference, since Eritrean troop involvement is soon gonna be revealed anyway.
You dumb ar$$$ freaking mad foaming baboon . Did they see then when your tplf lords were shooting multiple forbidden missiles towards Eritrea and Gondar, the holy city of atse bakkafaa? If they saw that then why not refer the tplf goats to the International Criminal Court (ICC) and have them condemned and put behind bars like Mr. Milosevic, or you mean that their observation is selective only because your low IQ self centered memory is dirt biased and selective?

Are you talking about foreign troops in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan,etc, because Eritrea and Ethiopia may not be considered as foreign in the true sense of the word because we are immediate neighbors and even speak the same language, sharing borders, cultures, foods, songs, melodies, sufferings and happiness. Instead of sitting idle on your ar$$$ and keep complaining day and night why the fck don't you go and plant trees to reduce your stress so that Mamma Ethiopia may become green, fertile, healthy, wealthy and happy?[/b] Shelemixmaax moshlaaqqaa Ximb Xooxaa! :mrgreen:


The country is on the brink, limping from crises to crises and this negro is obsessed with planting trees. Yep, the titanic is sinking yet homeboy is studiously re arranging the chairs.


The doomsday is only between your two deaf ears. Rearrange the gray matters between your two ears so that you may find peace and see the light at thee end of the tunnel. After that please remember to go and plant green trees and find more peace from mother nature. Okay? Okay! :mrgreen:

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