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[DefendTheTruth]

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[temari]

Who hates Abiy Ahmed? PM Abiy is still very popular and has strong support in Addis.
Unfortunately PP doesn't have such a wide support like the PM.

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[DefendTheTruth]

I wonder why I don't see any sign of construction going on around Wonchi, does someone have any info?

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[DefendTheTruth]

Who hates Abiy Ahmed? PM Abiy is still very popular and has strong support in Addis.
Unfortunately PP doesn't have such a wide support like the PM.

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who hates? lool

How many political organizations are there in the country? If they can even be called political.

You can't separate PP from the PM. He represents his party, he runs the tasks in the name of his party. The party delegated the duties to him, so that he runs them according to they way they liked it. If he fails for one day to do so, then he will be dealt with on the next day. He is not a negus, or even the president like the Americans have. He is accountable to his party.

ወተቷን ወዶ እበቷን መጥላት አይቻልም።

Does that say something to you?

[temari]

Who hates Abiy Ahmed? PM Abiy is still very popular and has strong support in Addis.
Unfortunately PP doesn't have such a wide support like the PM.

who hates? lool

How many political organizations are there in the country? If they can even be called political.

You can't separate PP from the PM. He represents his party, he runs the tasks in the name of his party. The party delegated the duties to him, so that he runs them according to they way they liked it. If he fails for one day to do so, then he will be dealt with on the next day. He is not a negus, or even the president like the Americans have. He is accountable to his party.

ወተቷን ወዶ እበቷን መጥላት አይቻልም።

Does that say something to you?

Of course there is a difference between the party and the leader. The leader is the visionary person and who gives directions and the party is that implements it. Unfortunately there are many bad apples in the party structure which gives the party a bad name. This does apply for all parties that had administration experiences and "baggage". Those oppositions will have the same issues with corruption etc. the moment they get the opportunity to run a woreda. That is the nature of an incumbent.

The Ethiopian system is not a presidential system and hence only the Jimmas have the privilege to vote directly to PM Abiy. No other Ethiopian can vote for the PM. But if we had a presidential system I think PM Abiy will win by a large margin against any politician for the coming decades. Even in Addis if he were running directly, he will beat every one of them. It is very hard to even criticize the PM in Addis. He is still very popular.

[Noble Amhara]

Building a national park does nothing for the average Ethiopian and thus Ethiopians are either blindly supporting Abiy out of fear the country may collapse or either they are pentes and think he’s gods son.

Abiy Ahmed cannot help or lift the average Ethiopian out of poverty he can only develop a few sites for some foreigners to travel to then leave.

[DefendTheTruth]

Abiy Ahmed cannot help or lift the average Ethiopian out of poverty he can only develop a few sites for some foreigners to travel to then leave.

Well, let's look at your own claim. What is the profit for the average Ethiopian? Only develop few sites. Some foreigners travel to (those sits).

Some foreigners travel to the site and pay few dollars or an equivalent other currencies for that and that dollar will going to be spent in one of the basic necessities the country may have, like a school, clinics, clean drinking water, buy medicine with the hard currency generated from the foreign-visitors and the average Ethiopians will going to have some gain from these re-investments. That is all what you said, I didn't add anything.

Are you someone who can see the consistent flow in your own claim and if yes, can you tell me where the flow breaks down?

In the absence of any breakdown is it difficult to see your own fallacy of claiming about the average Ethiopian will not get from it?

[Noble Amhara]

Yes have you seen lalibela or simien Mountians the locals make very small amount from tourism they still live on poverty and are not self reliant as also seen in Hayk Wonchi where the locals ask whites for money there is no self-dependance which we Ethiopians proud ourselves on. The government needs to be transparent on how they use the money generated from tourist sites using the wealth generated to create towns and districts of self dependent Ethiopians

[DefendTheTruth]

Yes have you seen lalibela or simien Mountians the locals make very small amount from tourism they still live on poverty and are not self reliant as also seen in Hayk Wonchi where the locals ask whites for money there is no self-dependance which we Ethiopians proud ourselves on. The government needs to be transparent on how they use the money generated from tourist sites using the wealth generated to create towns and districts of self dependent Ethiopians

Well, let me tell you for the last time, you are such an idiot who don't even remember what you have just said before few minutes and keep diverting when challenged.

If the problem now becomes about lack of transparency, in which case there is an income from such parks and you admit that now, then why did you just write the following "Building a national park does nothing for the average Ethiopian"?

Collection of morons!

Building a national park does nothing for the average Ethiopian and thus Ethiopians are either blindly supporting Abiy out of fear the country may collapse or either they are pentes and think he’s gods son.

Abiy Ahmed cannot help or lift the average Ethiopian out of poverty he can only develop a few sites for some foreigners to travel to then leave.

[TGAA]

DTT, this the most contrived archaic cadre argument ever to surface in a vary long time.
Let us if what you say holds water. We know the Oromo PP that Abiy and shimeles lead in different occasions admitted that more than 10000 of their party members were directly or indirectly involved in Ethic cleansing ,and Abiy said the were imprisoned or fired from their position. Did PP publicly accepted the responsibility and asked for forgiveness.No . In this case if you say both are the same why should both be elected to office.people who supports Abiy think he is not involved or not part of it ...that is the only reason the support him while at the same time hate PP.
Why Addis Abebians should elect a mayor from PP that pass publicly funded Apartments more than ,500000, and vast city land to political cadress . What the old TPLF lead EPDRF and OLF Sympathizer lead PP have in common is that they underestimate the Ethiopian people intellect. What DTT advocating is if you like Abiy you have to take the garbages along with him. No we are not going to do that Abiy will most likely remains to be A prime minister but his power will be clipped in major way ..he only be able to govern by forming coalitions. All corrupt ethic politicians have done all the champagne against themselves ..the are running on their records..we will see if the election is fair how they going to Fair out.

[TGAA]

DTT, this the most contrived archaic cadre argument ever to surface in a vary long time.
Let us if what you say holds water. We know the Oromo PP that Abiy and shimeles lead in different occasions admitted that more than 10000 of their party members were directly or indirectly involved in Ethic cleansing ,and Abiy said the were imprisoned or fired from their position. Did PP publicly accepted the responsibility and asked for forgiveness.No . In this case if you say both are the same why should both be elected to office.people who supports Abiy think he is not involved or not part of it ...that is the only reason the support him while at the same time hate PP.
Why Addis Abebians should elect a mayor from PP that pass publicly funded Apartments more than ,500000, and vast city land to political cadress . What the old TPLF lead EPDRF and OLF Sympathizer lead PP have in common is that they underestimate the Ethiopian people intellect. What DTT advocating is if you like Abiy you have to take the garbages along with him. No we are not going to do that Abiy will most likely remains to be A prime minister but his power will be clipped in major way ..he only be able to govern by forming coalitions. All corrupt ethic politicians have done all the champagne against themselves ..the are running on their records..we will see if the election is fair how they going to Fair out.

[DefendTheTruth]

DTT, this the most contrived archaic cadre argument ever to surface in a vary long time.
Let us if what you say holds water. We know the Oromo PP that Abiy and shimeles lead in different occasions admitted that more than 10000 of their party members were directly or indirectly involved in Ethic cleansing ,and Abiy said the were imprisoned or fired from their position. Did PP publicly accepted the responsibility and asked for forgiveness.No . In this case if you say both are the same why should both be elected to office.people who supports Abiy think he is not involved or not part of it ...that is the only reason the support him while at the same time hate PP.
Why Addis Abebians should elect a mayor from PP that pass publicly funded Apartments more than ,500000, and vast city land to political cadress . What the old TPLF lead EPDRF and OLF Sympathizer lead PP have in common is that they underestimate the Ethiopian people intellect. What DTT advocating is if you like Abiy you have to take the garbages along with him. No we are not going to do that Abiy will most likely remains to be A prime minister but his power will be clipped in major way ..he only be able to govern by forming coalitions. All corrupt ethic politicians have done all the champagne against themselves ..the are running on their records..we will see if the election is fair how they going to Fair out.

Such an ambivalent calling me contrived archaic cadre argument?

You could vote out PM and his party but there is no way that you can hold on the PM and throw away his party, as far as I understand the basics of party politics.

It is also amazing that you come again and again with your accusations against President Shimales Abdissa but then fail to substantiate those accusations. I remember giving you a chance on multiple occasions to put your evidences to support your accusations, but you failed. I am 100% sure, that you don't have an iota of evidence to support your accusation.

In the absence of an evidence your accusations against him are based on something different that you don't want to say but still never stop them labeling against him.

Adde Adanech Abebe has said at one point I heard somewhere, something like "we keep working, others keep shouting at us, and the public will judge all of us". I think it was when she inaugurated the newly built modern bus station in Addis, if I remember.

[TGAA]

You're rehtorical question assumes ,"they" hate him despite his goodness.The problem with Abiy has been that his rehtorics and the actions of the party he leads don't align.. so people who still believe that he is the best leader under the circumstances can weaken the party while creating a situation to make him rely on a coalition building to push his major national agenda. The Ethiopian people going to give it's verdict whether the have been played by convince or confuse moto or there is a genuine change. Their 3 years of living under PP is there to leand an advice. Let us wait and see. Ethiopia people don't hate ..we know that for sure.

[TGAA]

You're rehtorical question assumes ,"they" hate him despite his goodness.The problem with Abiy has been that his rehtorics and the actions of the party he leads don't align.. so people who still believe that he is the best leader under the circumstances can weaken the party while creating a situation to make him rely on a coalition building to push his major national agenda. The Ethiopian people going to give it's verdict whether the have been played by convince or confuse moto or there is a genuine change. Their 3 years of living under PP is there to leand an advice. Let us wait and see. Ethiopia people don't hate ..we know that for sure.

[Sadacha Macca]

I'm not a big fan of Abiy, but let's be honest, how much change can a man or party bring in a few years? Especially in a country like Ethiopia, which may rank among the most complicated countries on Allaah's/God's planet?
Governing Ethiopia would be like juggling fireballs-far from an easy task!

[Tiago]

Why do people hate PM Abiy? why not? If those people who lost their loved ones by primitive Galla mob,get their hands on PM Abiye they will chock him to death. He has been either indifferent to ethnic killings or pay lip service thus most ethiopians regardless of ethnicity have well founded doubt about his actions and his habitual running of talk-shop. I can say PM Abiy has lost credibility in some regions for good.

He must openly reject ethnic based politics and dismantle every evil that are planted by TPLF.

[DefendTheTruth]

He must openly reject ethnic based politics and dismantle every evil that are planted by TPLF. [/color][/size][/b]

Many of you join in politics not out of conviction but out of a wish to have a means and there is a difference between the two and that also explains why you as someone who claim to be in the business also fails to understand the basic of how politics is run.

[DefendTheTruth]

I wonder why I don't see any sign of construction going on around Wonchi, does someone have any info?

"The youngest Farmer, I have ever seen", loooooooooooooool