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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by DefendTheTruth » 12 Mar 2021, 03:55

But what are they counting?

Someone who can code? And then to what extent? If you can write a simple script, then it is also sort of coding.

Or someone employed as a software developer by an employer? We know people who are employed as software developer but not working as such, strictly speaking at least.

Or someone who has some kind of title, like a university graduate in some kind of computer sceince fields?

I don't know how much Ethiopians are keeping themselves busy with the fields of software development but most of the time the people who are creating good software are those who are doing it out of curiosity, just to meet their own passion.

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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by kibramlak » 13 Mar 2021, 00:01

DefendTheTruth wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 03:55
But what are they counting?

Someone who can code? And then to what extent? If you can write a simple script, then it is also sort of coding.

Or someone employed as a software developer by an employer? We know people who are employed as software developer but not working as such, strictly speaking at least.

Or someone who has some kind of title, like a university graduate in some kind of computer sceince fields?

I don't know how much Ethiopians are keeping themselves busy with the fields of software development but most of the time the people who are creating good software are those who are doing it out of curiosity, just to meet their own passion.
I totally agree. The best software developers I have known are those who have not even followed formal computer related training. A combination of art and logic does the miracle in developing amazing software. The coders with a formal training could help to do the cleanup in the software development process


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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by Dawi » 13 Apr 2021, 12:55

Huawei to help Ethiopia cultivate ICT talent

Source: Xinhua| 2021-04-13 02:54:07|Editor: huaxia
ADDIS ABABA, April 12 (Xinhua) -- Chinese hi-tech giant Huawei announced on Monday it has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the Ethiopia Jobs Creation Commission (EJCC) to cultivate the Information and Communications Technology (ICT) talent ecosystem in the east African country.

In a press statement sent to Xinhua, Huawei said under the MoU, the ICT ecosystem will help students and professionals get internationally recognized certification and develop better career paths in the telecom and IT sector.

Chen Mingliang, CEO of Huawei Technologies Ethiopia, said under the MoU agreement, the Chinese hi-tech giant will give various training on modern technological tools, according to the statement.

"Over the next three years, we plan to deliver courses on communications technologies, cloud computing, and enterprise network building for graduates, entrepreneurs, as well as professionals looking for opportunities abroad," Chen said.

According to the statement, there are plans to train and certify some 800 professionals in the first year.

Overall, in a three-year period around 4,000 individuals are expected to be trained in order to be competent professionals in the local and international labor market.

Nigussu Tilahun, EJCC Commissioner, said his organization appreciated the relevance of private sector actors like Huawei in building the capacity of the youth and job creation opportunities.

"The private sector is urgently needed in building the capacity of the youth and creation of job opportunities, especially in the IT and Technology sectors," Tilahun said. Enditem

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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by Abere » 13 Apr 2021, 13:18

If the statistics include Ethiopians living in the diaspora, I would be correct to say Ethiopia would rank #1 or # 2 in Africa in number of experts Software developing. In most computer science and computer engineering companies and academic institutions it is becoming common to find Ethiopian nationals next to Indians and Chinese. Given the population size of Ethiopia, to find Ethiopian experts tells a lot. Just like the stats in medical doctors, simply there are more IT experts abroad than at home. Whereas, it is very rare to find Kenyans, Moroccans , South Africans in the IT industry in the western world. The problem is the Ethiopian economy at home is at infantile stage compared to other African countries due to political instability and ethnic Amhara discrimination that aggravated talent/brain drain and exodus. The moronic TPLF policy still continued under ODP-PP will further aggravate the problem. Investing in STEM fields is not enough unless the country is attractive to its youth and lure those in exile. For this to happen, the Ethiopia government should discontinue TPLF's racist policy that has been discriminating Amhara people.

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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by Horus » 13 Apr 2021, 13:25

This is a truly scary wake up call. A 120 million people with extremely complicated problems of every type does not even have 20,000 logical problem solvers. How sad!

This is in fact a measure Ethiopia's problem solving capacity as well as the dismal state of the development of thought among our educated class. The basis of software development is problem solving ability. The driver of problem solving is thinking ability - all kinds of thinking mathematical, logical, artistic, technical ...

All of these are driven by the mindset of the people, the culture, the educational system and Ethiopia's national agenda. Where does Ethiopian time and mind go? It is wasted on ethnic voodoo drama and the dance of ignorance of tribal warriors and the glorification of poverty and begging western expired corn.

This is why the Ethiopian youth does not write programs and code the information universe. The cosmos is simply a system of information. Life is simply a system of information. How many educated Ethiopians see their world in these terms?

There is a reason why Ethiopia finds herself in the information stone age.

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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by Horus » 13 Apr 2021, 13:38

Our problem is not lack of talent, it is tribalism!

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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by Abere » 13 Apr 2021, 14:05

Horus,

You are absolutely correct! Tribalism destroyed not only physically the lives of many and the social fabrics of our society, it haunted and killed talent as well. The education policy of tribal federal system of Ethiopia is the one responsible. Educational genocide has been the term coined by educational experts to explain this catastrophe. First, as you pointed out earlier, the tribal education system robbed or disabled the critical thinking ability of the million youth. A second or third year university student in the present day Ethiopia means a 9th grade student of the old time. These so called 40 + universities are not better than an average high school even by the Derg time standard. It is just like the TPLF's economic statistics of double digit growth. It is all about quantity. I recall the time where TPLF stipulated Bachelor degree completion year for engineering field reduced from 5 years into 3/4 years; Bachelor of arts to 3 years. This sub-standard education created many problem for those to further their study in foreign universities, because its below standard in credit accumulation and dearth of general education. Students don't get experience in general education though out their stay which is very critical in computer language programing and logical thinking. Surprisingly, they are overdosed with Aba Geda folktale of Neftegna breast cutting history education with their standard text book of የቡርቃው ዝምታ. I don't know what the hell የቡርቃው ዝምታ has an equivalence relevance to to learning physics, calculus, or other science courses. In fact these kind of tribal folktales brings violence at student campus where student choose either being safe or pass their exam to exit early. What quality education should one expect seeing what happened those Amhara girls kidnapped by OLF from Wollega? Ethiopian universities are more of military and tribal camps than academic institutions. The country is far from this dream. It impossible to dream anything in Ethiopia until tribal federation is disbanded.

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Re: African countries with the Most Software Developers. Ethiopia is still an infant.

Post by DefendTheTruth » 14 Apr 2021, 03:40

Abere wrote:
13 Apr 2021, 14:05
Horus,

You are absolutely correct! Tribalism destroyed not only physically the lives of many and the social fabrics of our society, it haunted and killed talent as well. The education policy of tribal federal system of Ethiopia is the one responsible. Educational genocide has been the term coined by educational experts to explain this catastrophe. First, as you pointed out earlier, the tribal education system robbed or disabled the critical thinking ability of the million youth. A second or third year university student in the present day Ethiopia means a 9th grade student of the old time. These so called 40 + universities are not better than an average high school even by the Derg time standard. It is just like the TPLF's economic statistics of double digit growth. It is all about quantity. I recall the time where TPLF stipulated Bachelor degree completion year for engineering field reduced from 5 years into 3/4 years; Bachelor of arts to 3 years. This sub-standard education created many problem for those to further their study in foreign universities, because its below standard in credit accumulation and dearth of general education. Students don't get experience in general education though out their stay which is very critical in computer language programing and logical thinking. Surprisingly, they are overdosed with Aba Geda folktale of Neftegna breast cutting history education with their standard text book of የቡርቃው ዝምታ. I don't know what the hell የቡርቃው ዝምታ has an equivalence relevance to to learning physics, calculus, or other science courses. In fact these kind of tribal folktales brings violence at student campus where student choose either being safe or pass their exam to exit early. What quality education should one expect seeing what happened those Amhara girls kidnapped by OLF from Wollega? Ethiopian universities are more of military and tribal camps than academic institutions. The country is far from this dream. It impossible to dream anything in Ethiopia until tribal federation is disbanded.
How funny it should be that even a topic like software development evolves into the same habitual bickering about tribalism, "Aba Geda", OLF, Wollega etc (but no mention of Bahir Dar or ABN for all of that) and etc.

Your buddy was talking about problem solving and in my view the act of problem solving is based on cause and effect analysis, not jumping from topic to topic wildly.

Here the problem is tribalism, according to your own claim. This is the effect. You should try to anayse and understand what the cause is, to finally come up with a possible solution to the problem, as a suggestion.

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