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President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by eden » 24 Feb 2021, 21:17

Sudanese Prime Minister (PM) Abdullah Hamdok received on Wednesday a written message from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki.


This came during Hamdok’s meeting with Eritrean Foreign Minister (FM) Osman Saleh and Afwerki’s Political Advisor Yemane Ghebreab.

In his message, the Eritrean President stressed the depth of relations between both countries and the need to strengthen and develop them.

He also voiced concern over the current Ethiopian-Sudanese border dispute, stressing that his country supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty over its lands.

Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.
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Re: Dictator Isayas buckles as U.S. War Ships head to Sudan

Post by Fiyameta » 24 Feb 2021, 21:30

The US is foiling Turkey's bid to build a military base and naval facilities in Sudan. Eritrea overthrew Sudan's dictator Bashir to prevent the same exact thing from happening. That's what super power countries do when beggar regimes go astray. 8) 8)

Beggar Agame junta, now go roll around on the sidewalks and entertain us. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by eden » 25 Feb 2021, 13:59

Where're the usual suspects, those great Ethiopianists who presented Isayas as a great asset for Ethiopia?

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by ZEMEN » 25 Feb 2021, 14:09

eden wrote:
24 Feb 2021, 21:17
Sudanese Prime Minister (PM) Abdullah Hamdok received on Wednesday a written message from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki.


This came during Hamdok’s meeting with Eritrean Foreign Minister (FM) Osman Saleh and Afwerki’s Political Advisor Yemane Ghebreab.

In his message, the Eritrean President stressed the depth of relations between both countries and the need to strengthen and develop them.

He also voiced concern over the current Ethiopian-Sudanese border dispute, stressing that his country supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty over its lands.

Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.
As usual you are too shallow but you got play the game. Sudan is the most unreliable and irresponsible leadership ever in the horn Africa. So, they always change their position. Now, Eritreans are playing their own games. They will send such a letter saying go head while sending Eritrean troops to Ethiopia. Just today Sudan was complaining saying that Eritrean soldiers are seen at the Ethiopian border with Ethiopian soldiers. Well come to the game. Your TPLF died with out understating the game of the horn. At one point Yemen, Sudan and Ethiopia were against Eritrea, guess who is standing and burring TPLF? You guessed it, the father of the horn, Isaias!!! ta ta.

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by Fed_Up » 25 Feb 2021, 14:16

All I can say is Agamewoch are born idiots. Period! It doesn’t matter how long they stay in college or have numbers of degrees or bought PHD or live their life long amongst the developed society, at the end of the day IQ is inherent not acquired. They will do good መንከባለል but not ንቃት::" ዴዴብ " አለ ፋኖ :oops:

I am just sayin

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by ZEMEN » 25 Feb 2021, 14:26

Fed_Up wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 14:16
All I can say is Agamewoch are born idiots. Period! It doesn’t matter how long they stay in college or have numbers of degrees or bought PHD or live their life long amongst the developed society, at the end of the day IQ is inherent not acquired. They will do good መንከባለል but not ንቃት::" ዴዴብ " አለ ፋኖ :oops:

I am just sayin
They don't understand. Eritrea is already in hot waters by wiping out TPLF and its illiterate soldiers and can you imagine if Eritrea again suspected in wiping out Sudan? No, you go underground. I have no doubt that Eritrea will go with Ethiopia and wipe out Sudan but they will do it very smartly. After all i don't think Eritreas will forget what Sudan did to Eritrea by standing with TPLF in 2000 border war. Isaias never forgets.

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by Fed_Up » 25 Feb 2021, 14:41

ZEMEN wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 14:26
Fed_Up wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 14:16
All I can say is Agamewoch are born idiots. Period! It doesn’t matter how long they stay in college or have numbers of degrees or bought PHD or live their life long amongst the developed society, at the end of the day IQ is inherent not acquired. They will do good መንከባለል but not ንቃት::" ዴዴብ " አለ ፋኖ :oops:

I am just sayin
They don't understand. Eritrea is already in hot waters by wiping out TPLF and its illiterate soldiers and can you imagine if Eritrea again suspected in wiping out Sudan? No, you go underground. I have no doubt that Eritrea will go with Ethiopia and wipe out Sudan but they will do it very smartly. After all i don't think Eritreas will forget what Sudan did to Eritrea by standing with TPLF in 2000 border war. Isaias never forgets.

True bro we put a price tag on our enemies head and wait. Eritrea and Eritreans believe in mutual respect and honesty. If you come in peace, Eritreans are like milk and honey and the friend you can trust for eternity. Being said that anyone should know if you cross that trust and harm them, it will be a matter of time and they will make sure you pay for it.

The above statements apply to people of Amhara too. Very similar culture.

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by Fiyameta » 25 Feb 2021, 15:30

Nothing makes the evil agame like eden hit the roof than watching Ethiopians admire President Isaias Afewerki for his unwavering adherence to firm moral and ethical principles that transcend borders. Whenever the evil agame look at Eritrea through the bullet hole on Seyoum Mesfin's forehead, their dull and rusty swords zigzag its way into their own Libi Tigray heart to put them out of their misery. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by Asmara » 25 Feb 2021, 16:17

eden wrote:
24 Feb 2021, 21:17
Sudanese Prime Minister (PM) Abdullah Hamdok received on Wednesday a written message from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki.


This came during Hamdok’s meeting with Eritrean Foreign Minister (FM) Osman Saleh and Afwerki’s Political Advisor Yemane Ghebreab.

In his message, the Eritrean President stressed the depth of relations between both countries and the need to strengthen and develop them.

He also voiced concern over the current Ethiopian-Sudanese border dispute, stressing that his country supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty over its lands.

Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.
SOURCE?

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by YAY » 25 Feb 2021, 16:27

Dear Eden: It is the same principle for all countries---each has the right to extend its sovereignty over its own lands

What PIA reportedly said is the fundamental principle of justice that brings about peace between territorial-States/countries. Each State, or country, has the legitimate right to extend its sovereign control over its own territory. In a situation of territorial dispute, however, the principal question to answer is: how far does each country's territory extend. In other words, where do the borderlines between two countries---for instance, between Etiyopiya and Sudan, lie. President Issaias of Eritrea, according to the report, did not say that Sudan has the right of extending its sovereignty over Etiyopiya' s lands, or vice versa. Did he?

I think you are wrongly giving separate emphasis to the concept of "to extend sovereignty" from the concept of extending sovereignty "over its lands". Either you are naive about these concepts or you are daring to play a political game. You shall not succeed. I urge you to practice some honesty for the sake of personal integrity and peace. The best solution for both countries is to devise a method of resolving the border dispute by using international law in determining where the borderlines between them lie, peacefully. There is no need to go to war while you can achieve your objectives peacefully (legally). After that, each country would freely and legitimately extend its sovereignty over its lands that are recognized by its neighbors.

eden wrote:
24 Feb 2021, 21:17
Sudanese Prime Minister (PM) Abdullah Hamdok received on Wednesday a written message from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki.


This came during Hamdok’s meeting with Eritrean Foreign Minister (FM) Osman Saleh and Afwerki’s Political Advisor Yemane Ghebreab.

In his message, the Eritrean President stressed the depth of relations between both countries and the need to strengthen and develop them.

He also voiced concern over the current Ethiopian-Sudanese border dispute, stressing that his country supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty over its lands.

Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by kerenite » 25 Feb 2021, 18:36

eden wrote:
24 Feb 2021, 21:17
Sudanese Prime Minister (PM) Abdullah Hamdok received on Wednesday a written message from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki.


This came during Hamdok’s meeting with Eritrean Foreign Minister (FM) Osman Saleh and Afwerki’s Political Advisor Yemane Ghebreab.

In his message, the Eritrean President stressed the depth of relations between both countries and the need to strengthen and develop them.

He also voiced concern over the current Ethiopian-Sudanese border dispute, stressing that his country supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty over its lands.

Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.
Let's evaluate eden's post today,

1. According to aljazeera arabic news today...www.aljazeera.Co. Uk their journalist Indian terviewed the current foreign minister who happens to be the daughter of sadiQ almahdi aka the grond-son of the famous almahdi (metema battle comes to mind here lol). She publicly announced that that sudan won't pull out from alfashga even one CM away.

2. Issu deep down knows (he is smart on malicious acts) for him aby is just an adolescent kid who could easily be steered.

Hence no wonder he sent his 2 zombies to sudan yesterday. And according to aljazeera news issu wants to mediate.

Mediate? Who? Issu? Give me a break, he has never in his fuckkked up history been a fire fighter rather an arsonal.

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by eden » 25 Feb 2021, 18:47

YAY,

Try to see my perspective. Ask yourself:

1. Why the letter now, at the very time Sudan moved to areas under Ethiopia for so long?

2. Since it's Ethiopia who is saying it lost land, wouldn't it make sense to send that letter to Ethiopia instead?

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by Hawzen » 25 Feb 2021, 19:03

eden wrote:
24 Feb 2021, 21:17
Sudanese Prime Minister (PM) Abdullah Hamdok received on Wednesday a written message from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki.


This came during Hamdok’s meeting with Eritrean Foreign Minister (FM) Osman Saleh and Afwerki’s Political Advisor Yemane Ghebreab.

In his message, the Eritrean President stressed the depth of relations between both countries and the need to strengthen and develop them.

He also voiced concern over the current Ethiopian-Sudanese border dispute, stressing that his country supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty over its lands.

Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.
It looks like agame sister edu gave up on her TPLF :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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RIP Abay Tigray and TPLF Junta

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by Fed_Up » 25 Feb 2021, 19:58

kerenite wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 18:36
eden wrote:
24 Feb 2021, 21:17
Sudanese Prime Minister (PM) Abdullah Hamdok received on Wednesday a written message from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki.


This came during Hamdok’s meeting with Eritrean Foreign Minister (FM) Osman Saleh and Afwerki’s Political Advisor Yemane Ghebreab.

In his message, the Eritrean President stressed the depth of relations between both countries and the need to strengthen and develop them.

He also voiced concern over the current Ethiopian-Sudanese border dispute, stressing that his country supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty over its lands.

Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.
Let's evaluate eden's post today,

1. According to aljazeera arabic news today...www.aljazeera.Co. Uk their journalist Indian terviewed the current foreign minister who happens to be the daughter of sadiQ almahdi aka the grond-son of the famous almahdi (metema battle comes to mind here lol). She publicly announced that that sudan won't pull out from alfashga even one CM away.

2. Issu deep down knows (he is smart on malicious acts) for him aby is just an adolescent kid who could easily be steered.

Hence no wonder he sent his 2 zombies to sudan yesterday. And according to aljazeera news issu wants to mediate.

Mediate? Who? Issu? Give me a break, he has never in his [deleted] up history been a fire fighter rather an arsonal.

Shirtoooo

Eski zemmm bel zem beleh... atenzezer አትንዠርዠር::

Zombies ነው ያልከው?... ተው እነ ስዩም, አቦይ ፀሃዬ, አመላሽ, መለስ ከተኙበት አስነስተህ እንዳታስቃቸው.... :x

I m just sayin

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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 25 Feb 2021, 21:36

Lowlanderu
When tigrains are praying that Sudan and Egypt should invade ethiopia and bomb the dam, since when did you start to care about ethiopia's territorial integrity.


Our tigrain cousins praying for the destruction of abiye Ahmed
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Re: President Isayas now says he supports Sudan’s right to extend its sovereignty (ኢሱ-ጭሱ ያላቹ፣ ኑ እንያቹ)

Post by YAY » 26 Feb 2021, 02:31

Dear Eden: I understand that your cause is the revival of TPLF, and your success is unlikely

Etiyopiyans were not ultimately happy with TPLF' s 1991-2018 control over Etiyopiya for three main reasons:
1. it controlled military, political and economic power beyond reasonable proportions vis-a-vis its size and the size of its constituents, and remained unwilling to reform;
2. it used that dominant power to extend its sovereignty over areas that were not its ethnic groups' lands; and
3. its giving priority to a State structure based on extreme ethnic federalism in a country, where clear borders between ethnic territories didn't exist, destabilized Etiyopiya.

The reform movement brought Abiy Ahmed Ali up to the front to become the new Prime minister of Etiyopiya. TPLF stood up against Abiy' s reforms, and went back to Tigraiy to prepare to fight against them, while Abiy was also strengthening the forces of reform to defend the reforms. These irreconcilable differences culminated into TPLF's military attack on November 03, 2020, on the Federal Defense Forces that were stationed in Tigraiy. PM Abiy, who tolerated differences with TPLF so much, believing that negotiations or national elections would resolve domestic disagreements, on November 04, 2020, determined to counteract TPLF' s strike. TPLF initiated and therefore is the culprit of the current war in Tigraiy. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ ... in-tigray/
Since the war in Tigray broke out, a proliferating number of theories outlining an emerging regional war (with external involvement) have been advanced by analysts and pundits. The war in Tigray, and escalating clashes in a disputed area of the Sudan-Ethiopia border, have formed the starting point for such claims.
thinks Danse Macabre. https://acleddata.com/2021/01/21/red-li ... of-africa/

No matter what others theorize, Eritrea ( taking all significant factors into consideration) has to let others know what its main concerns are. And
Afwerki said that Eritrea is not a party in the ongoing tension, noting that his country calls for a peaceful solution between the two sides in a way that serves peace, stability, and security in the region.
Among other things, the reason for the letter from Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki to Sudanese Prime Minister Abdullah Hamdock (received on Wednesday February 24, 2021) was to explain Eritrea' s concerns, in writing, which is good. https://see.news/eritrea-voices-concer ... -dispute/

Asharq Al-Awsat emphasized Eritrea' s possible non-involvement in the conflict in "Eritrea Denies Involvement in Border Conflict Between Sudan, Ethiopia", and more. https://english.aawsat.com/home/article ... n-ethiopia What is more is that both Egyptian and Sudanese interests regarding Etiyopiya' s GER Dam, as described in "Egypt Backs Call to Internationalize Ethiopia Dam Dispute", are discussed, and not your cause (the revival of TPLF) is even noted in any of their scenarios. https://english.aawsat.com/home/article ... am-dispute For many reasons, PIA's letter makes a lot of sense when seeing it from short-term and long-term interests of all countries or people-groups involved.

Regardless of how the territorial ownership issue of lands west of the Tekezze River is going to be handled in the future, it is now occupied by the Etiyopiyan AmHara Regional State. Geography and its atrocious and abusive past towards the AmHara and Tigraiyans shall definitely make it strategically very difficult for any power to directly help TPLF revive again. And helping TPLF at this time is the worst thing to do regarding " peace, stability, and security in the region." You might be out of luck.

The best thing to do is for the people of Tigraiy to pick themselves up from the final disaster TPLF had brought them by building a new political representative body through elections and republican (not TPLF' s "revolutionary") democracy. The people have to move on past the TPLF era in an organized way, and they need a courageous and skillful leadership now. If you think that there is a need to settle the issue of Tigraiy' s self-determination, (after the borderlines of Tigraiy are defined and accepted by their neighbors) let the people of Tigraiy express their destiny (secede or remain Etiyopiyan) in a referendum. But, as far as I can see, the people of Tigraiy should drop their exclusive emotional attachment to the territory west of Tekkeze (it seems it was not exclusively Tigraiy's land to begin with) and make Etiyopiya practically their new and wider territory, where they could live and prosper in peace by sharing it with other co-nationals.

eden wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 18:47
YAY,

Try to see my perspective. Ask yourself:

1. Why the letter now, at the very time Sudan moved to areas under Ethiopia for so long?

2. Since it's Ethiopia who is saying it lost land, wouldn't it make sense to send that letter to Ethiopia instead?

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