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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by sarcasm » 23 Feb 2021, 20:04

temari wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 11:48
sarcasm, I don't think the statement of a member of Germany's Left Party is much of a value. Eva-Maria Schreiber is member of Germany's Left Party that is an opposition party forever (never been in a governing coalition) and currently has less than 10% seats in parliament. The party is an idealist pacifist party which opposes any wars and even wants Germany to exit from NATO. That is why it is not taken seriously and until now no other party wanted to govern with it for being too idealist and not realist.

In my view Germany will not so easily drop Ethiopia from its reform partner status unless PM Abiy's government does willingly go against the democratization process. The election set to be executed soon with EU observers invited, I highly doubt Germany and other western countries will do seriously disturb their current relations with Ethiopia.
sarcasm wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 09:24
German-Ethiopian relations suffer over Tigray

Germany would like a good relationship with Ethiopia, but the Tigray crisis is straining ties. Berlin has relied on diplomacy to push for peace, yet some say that is not enough.

A call from German Chancellor Angela Merkel is bound to be about something important. When she called Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed in early February this year, for example, she stressed how vital it was to find a peaceful resolution to the Tigray conflict, according to her spokesman, Steffen Seibert. The German leader also said civilians caught up in the fighting must receive humanitarian assistance.

Merkel's call was the biggest indication of Germany's concern about the crisis so far, though in late November, just weeks after fighting began, Foreign Minister Heiko Maas met with his counterpart in Berlin to discuss what was happening in Tigray. At the time, Maas called the suffering "shocking" and demanded that "crimes against the civilian population be investigated and those guilty of them held accountable."

Humanitarian catastrophe
None of these appeals has so far helped deescalate the conflict. On the contrary, the situation in the crisis region has deteriorated further. What began in November 2020 as a short military intervention against the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) has since developed into a protracted regional conflict.

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Germany, EU, UK, USA believe that the Tigray War has developed into a protracted regional war. And they are demanding Ethiopia to peacefully resolve the war and allow all civilians (including the ones outside the Federal Government rule) caught up in the fighting must receive humanitarian assistance. So far Abiy has chosen the Eritrean Way by continuing the war for the fourth month. Zemen has explained what the Eritrean Way entails in detail.

Ethiopia is at a crossroads. The two choices are: 1, the Eritrean way 2, the peaceful / negotiated way.

Other politicians and community and social elite are saying that the peaceful / negotiated way is the better choice. For example, Ato Lidetu is saying "የትግራይ ጉዳይ በሰላምና በውይይት መፈታት አለበት። መጀመርያ ይሄ Cessation of hostilities መምጣት አለበት፤ የጥላቻ ፕሮፖጋንዳ በሁለቱም ወገን መቆም አለበት።" Michael Shiferaw also said "[በትግራይ ጦርነት] መፍትሔው ፤ የመዳኛው ብቸኛ መንገድ ደግሞ ፤ እየተጠላላህም፤ ደም ከተቃባህም በኃላ ተመልሰህ ፤ ቁጭ ብለህ መነጋገር ብቻ ነው።" Ethiopia cannot choose the Eritrean Way and expect to keep budgetary financial assistance at the same time. Everybody wants Dr Abiy to choose the peaceful negotiated way sooner as the death toll and the economic cost of the war are rising by the day.

President Isaias has made his mind up. He made it clear in his last interview that he expects the sanctions, isolation and international criticisms to start very soon. Dr Abiy has so far chosen the Eritrean Way. Will he continue on the Eritrean Way or change course? Time will tell. He has to do his cost benefit analysis because the Eritrean Way will come with the risk of sanctions, isolation and heavy economic costs. He has to convince the public that he has costed the human and financial cost of the Eritrean way and how it is less costly than the peaceful way. But you cannot expect him to have his cake and eat it too.

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by gagi » 23 Feb 2021, 20:45

Abysinianlady,

You got it right!

All this steady pressure on Ethiopia by the West is not really about Tigray.

The West is acting in full swing to stop Chinese ascent to a superpower status. They see Africa as a critical source of cheap natural resources that feeds the economy of China Ethiopia is a gateway to Africa for China. With AU located in Addis, the Chinese get every African country in Addis and use make diplomacy, trade deal, etc. there. Ethiopia is thus an important host and a bridge to Africa.

The current concerted campaign by the West against China includes isolating China from the world and especially Africa. The Western countries led by US are working towards undermining China with a view to stop her from replacing the West.

Twisting Ethiopia’s arms incessantly in the name of the conflict in Tigray is part of this grand strategy by the Western countries and their mouthpieces, and “philanthropists”.

But in the end Ethiopia stands firm and protect its national interests even if it means a very rough ride for sometime. The traitor TPLF and their remnants will continue to be dealt with decisively! Ethiopia is at a point of return in its determination to crushing hate and greed in the country and herald a new era.

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by sarcasm » 23 Feb 2021, 21:17

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 16:46
Both the EU and the US are stepping up pressure on Ethiopia to cut trade and diplomatic ties with China, It has nothing to do with Tigray conflict, Tigray is just a pretext for the West to go against the government of Ethiopia.
Asking for what has now become a protracted regional war to be resolved peacefully is not pressuring Ethiopia to cut ties with China. Why would China calls for a joint international response to Tigray War then? Ethiopia has been aligning more with the West and World Bank / IMF Washington Consensus over the past 2 years. I don't know if it is a choice made out of researched self-interest or pressure.

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Lakeshore » 23 Feb 2021, 21:24

Let them do it we already got more than that from the junta loot. Instead of you junta's use, the money let the Germans keep it for themselves. Once we cleaned you out they will come back begging to invest. Do you think they give it for free stupid Agame? No, they have their own interest and trade relation. They want to sell their product here. Especially they want the to enter in the Banking system. It is a bluff for a better deal they do not care about useless agames.

Did you know Hitler gave Ethiopia 10 000 mousier and three airplanes during the second world war so that we can eliminate you,r bands, and Mussolini, even if they signed a non-aggression pact between them? Because Italy took Libya and he was afraid if they win Ethiopia Mussolini will be emboldened and become a problem for Hitler's dominance. It is all about interest and but they do not like bands like you Agames too.

አንግዲህ ያው የሚያዋጣችሁ ወደ ድሮው ሙያችሁ መመለስ ነው ልዋጭ ለዋጭ አና ልመና ለዛውም ጀርባችሁ ተመርምሮ ነው። ሮኬት በኣየነስውር ኣስተኮሳችሁ አናንተ የፈራች ሁትን መከላከያችንን ወልደሰላሴ ኣይነ ሰወር ስለሆነና መሞከሪያ ኣደረጋችሁ ከዋሻው መጀመሪኣ አንዲወጣ ኣድረጋችሁ ኣስገደላችሁት ግፈኞችናችሁ ከዛ ደግሞ ያችን ኣጋሜ ኣሮጊት ዋሻ ውስጥ በሽማግሌው ስብሃት መሸ ነጋ ይደለም ኧስደፍራችሁ ገደል ጣላችሁዋት። ከዛደግሞ በኣወሮፓ አና ኣሜሪካ መንገድ በንጻ አይተንከባለላችሁ ስታጸዱ ከረማችሁ ኣሁን በመጨረሻው ደግሞ ኮሌስትሮላች ሁን ለመቅነስ ረሃብ ኣድማ አያልችሁ ነው አሱም ኣይሰራም የሚቀረው አንግዲህ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ምጥታችሁ ከሃዲውን ኣጋሜ ሀዝብ አርዱት ተዋጉ ኑና።
በዛውም ፋኖ ፣ መከላከያ ምን ማለት አንደሆነ በደንብ ትማራላች ሁ። በዛውም ልዋጭ ልዋጩ ካዋጥ ተሞክሩታላች ሁ ሌላ አንኩን ጭንቅላት ስለሌለ ለናተ ኣይሆንም።

↩ እኔ እባብ ነኝ።
ሰው ሆይ ተወኝ እንጂ በትግሬ አትመስለኝ
ድንጋይ ተደፍቶብኝ ታጥፌ ባደርኩኝ
ባገኝም ነድፌ ባጣም ተጠቅልየ
ኑሮየን በገፋሁ ጉድጓድ ውስጥ ተጥየ

እንከባበራ!! አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
ማንን ገደልኩና ወንዝ ተሻግሬ??
የትኛውን ብልት በገመድ አስሬ
ጠርሙስ አንጠልጥየ
ጥፍሩን ነቃቅየ
ፂሙን ነጭቼ ነው
ትግሬ የምባለው??
የማንን ደም መጠጥኩ ተከዜን አልፌ
ቅማል ሆኜ ትኋን ከሰው ተለጥፌ ?
እኔ ፎቅ አልሰራሁ ኦሮሞን ዘርፌ
ሳይመቼኝ በኖርኩ እሾህ ብርድ ታቅፌ

እንዴ!!!!

አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
አትጩሁ አስሬ
ህፃን፣ እርጉዝ ሳልል
በስናይፐር የምገል
ሙሽራ፣ ና አሮጊት
ምረሽን በጥይት
አይደለሁም ትግሬ ታጥቦ የማይጠራ
ለማጋጨት ብየ ኦሮሞን ካማራ
የተቆረጠ ጡት ሃውልት የምሰራ

ስርዓት አድርጉ !!!

የኮራሁ እባብ ነኝ ልቤ የጠነባ አይደለሁም ትግሬ
ነቀምት ዩኒቨርሱቲ ካ5ኛ ፎቅ ላይ አማራን ወርውሬ
ፈጥፍጨ ገድየ እሬሳ የምልክ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ብየ የማላክክ
የቆሸሽኩ ኋላ ቀር አይደለሁም ትግሬ
በስሜ ምኮራ እፉኝት ነው ዘሬ
እባብ ነው ብሄሬ

ሰው ሆይ ስርአት ያዝ!! እኔ ኩሩ እባብ ነኝ።

አማራን በ ህይወት ገደል ውስጥ ወርውሮ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ከሚል በጎን ዞሮ
ሰውን ያክል ፍጡር አርዶ ጫካ ጥሎ
ምንም እንዳልሰማ አንዳላየ መስሎ
አብሮ ከሚአለቅሰው ነጠላ ዘቅዝቆ
እንዴት ከትግሬ ጋር ስሜ ተደባልቆ
ባንድነት ይጠራ
ከ ቆሻሻ ጋራ ?

ኧረረረረ ትግሬ ማ እንዳትሉኝ

ባክሱም ዩኒቨርሲቲ መቀሌ ኮሌጆች
የኦሮሞ አማራን Genius ተማሪወች
በትምርት ጎብዘው ባይምሮ ሲመጥቁ
ተተኪ ሙህራን ለ 2ቱ ክልል እንዳይመረቁ
በጩቤ ወግቼ ቆራርጨ የማርድ
መርዝ ከምግብ ጋር ሰጥቼ ማሳብድ??

ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ትግሬ አትበሉኝ


አወ፣ አሁንም አቁሙ

የትግሬን ያጋሜን በተንኮል የተላ የበከተ ልብ
ፈፅሞ አያውቀውም ምስኪን ነው እባብ
ስሜን አትመስሉ በ በሰበሰ ህዝብ
ወርቅ ላበደረው ጥይትን በሚያዘንብ
ከቅማል አውጥቶ
ካምበጣ አለያይቶ
ቁርጥ፣ ክትፎ እንጀራ ያበላ ወገኑን
መርዝ በሚያቦካ በትግሬ አትመስሉን
እኛ ኮ እባቦች ነን ዘብሄረ እፉኝት
ትግሬ አትበሉን stop it stop it

ሊገልህ ሲፈልግ ልጅ የሚወልድልህ
ትግሬ ጭቃ ነው እባብ እንዳይመስልህ።

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by temari » 23 Feb 2021, 22:05

sarcasm wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 20:04
Germany, EU, UK, USA believe that the Tigray War has developed into a protracted regional war. And they are demanding Ethiopia to peacefully resolve the war and allow all civilians (including the ones outside the Federal Government rule) caught up in the fighting must receive humanitarian assistance. So far Abiy has chosen the Eritrean Way by continuing the war for the fourth month. Zemen has explained what the Eritrean Way entails in detail.

Ethiopia is at a crossroads. The two choices are: 1, the Eritrean way 2, the peaceful / negotiated way.

Other politicians and community and social elite are saying that the peaceful / negotiated way is the better choice. For example, Ato Lidetu is saying "የትግራይ ጉዳይ በሰላምና በውይይት መፈታት አለበት። መጀመርያ ይሄ Cessation of hostilities መምጣት አለበት፤ የጥላቻ ፕሮፖጋንዳ በሁለቱም ወገን መቆም አለበት።" Michael Shiferaw also said "[በትግራይ ጦርነት] መፍትሔው ፤ የመዳኛው ብቸኛ መንገድ ደግሞ ፤ እየተጠላላህም፤ ደም ከተቃባህም በኃላ ተመልሰህ ፤ ቁጭ ብለህ መነጋገር ብቻ ነው።" Ethiopia cannot choose the Eritrean Way and expect to keep budgetary financial assistance at the same time. Everybody wants Dr Abiy to choose the peaceful negotiated way sooner as the death toll and the economic cost of the war are rising by the day.

President Isaias has made his mind up. He made it clear in his last interview that he expects the sanctions, isolation and international criticisms to start very soon. Dr Abiy has so far chosen the Eritrean Way. Will he continue on the Eritrean Way or change course? Time will tell. He has to do his cost benefit analysis because the Eritrean Way will come with the risk of sanctions, isolation and heavy economic costs. He has to convince the public that he has costed the human and financial cost of the Eritrean way and how it is less costly than the peaceful way. But you cannot expect him to have his cake and eat it too.
Sorry, but I feel like you are reading too much of your wishes into this. The west has more important issues and plans with Ethiopia than this. "Civilians outside of the federal government rule"? Serious? Come on, don't tell me you believe in some magical town that TPLF still controls. TPLF could not hold a single town when it had heavy weapons and organized army but you believe it controls a town when it is dismantled and ENDF is could not liberate this magical town? Oh please!

And what kind of negotiation are you talking about and most importantly with whom? With TPLF that attacked and massacred our troops and dragged us in a war? What are you smoking? Even if TPLF fights a guerrilla war for the next 20 years, it will be hard for any Ethiopian government to seat and talk with TPLF. Stop this kind of fantasy which is unattainable and absolutely not realistic. You think the Ethiopian government that refused to negotiate with TPLF while TPLF had an organized army will seat and talk with these bandits when they are defeated? Oh boy you guys are really in another universe. The only way forward for Tigray is to divorce itself from TPLF if Tigray wants to get out of this mess. TPLF has no life in Ethiopia anymore, the sooner tigreans accept this reality the better.

Finally, Lidetu has lost any credibility when he accused our troops and never condemned TPLF when our troops were attacked. He is seen as a TPLF mouthpiece nothing else. Politically he is dead.

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by sarcasm » 23 Feb 2021, 22:21

temari wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 22:05
Finally, Lidetu has lost any credibility when he accused our troops and never condemned TPLF when our troops were attacked. He is seen as a TPLF mouthpiece nothing else. Politically he is dead.
How about Michael Shiferaw who predicted what is happening now about 2 years ago ? He has no clue?

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by temari » 24 Feb 2021, 00:14

sarcasm wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 22:21
temari wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 22:05
Finally, Lidetu has lost any credibility when he accused our troops and never condemned TPLF when our troops were attacked. He is seen as a TPLF mouthpiece nothing else. Politically he is dead.
How about Michael Shiferaw who predicted what is happening now about 2 years ago ? He has no clue?
Look, all this negotiation talk make only sense before TPLF crossed the red line by attacking and humiliating our troops. That sealed TPLF's fate in Ethiopia. No amount of western pressure or TPLF terrorism on civilians will bring TPLF back to the negotiation table, at least not for the coming decades. Tigrean activists should stop beating a dead horse and should instead come with a new constructive way of engaging with Ethiopia. Continuing the TPLF politics or even trying to help TPLF to resurrect from the dead and come to the negotiation table is just a waste of time and money. It will never happen. Instead, they should start by acknowledging the cruel treason TPLF committed and the red line it crossed and make TPLF accountable for starting the war. If they don't start here i.e. by acknowledging the cause of the war and distancing themselves from this treason then I am afraid Ethiopians will not have ears for their "negotiation" jokes. Tigreans must embrace a future without terrorist TPLF. That is the only game in town and the only pragmatic way forward. Anything else is just a waste of money and will lead to nowhere.

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Lakeshore » 24 Feb 2021, 01:03

↩ እኔ እባብ ነኝ።
ሰው ሆይ ተወኝ እንጂ በትግሬ አትመስለኝ
ድንጋይ ተደፍቶብኝ ታጥፌ ባደርኩኝ
ባገኝም ነድፌ ባጣም ተጠቅልየ
ኑሮየን በገፋሁ ጉድጓድ ውስጥ ተጥየ

እንከባበራ!! አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
ማንን ገደልኩና ወንዝ ተሻግሬ??
የትኛውን ብልት በገመድ አስሬ
ጠርሙስ አንጠልጥየ
ጥፍሩን ነቃቅየ
ፂሙን ነጭቼ ነው
ትግሬ የምባለው??
የማንን ደም መጠጥኩ ተከዜን አልፌ
ቅማል ሆኜ ትኋን ከሰው ተለጥፌ ?
እኔ ፎቅ አልሰራሁ ኦሮሞን ዘርፌ
ሳይመቼኝ በኖርኩ እሾህ ብርድ ታቅፌ

እንዴ!!!!

አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
አትጩሁ አስሬ
ህፃን፣ እርጉዝ ሳልል
በስናይፐር የምገል
ሙሽራ፣ ና አሮጊት
ምረሽን በጥይት
አይደለሁም ትግሬ ታጥቦ የማይጠራ
ለማጋጨት ብየ ኦሮሞን ካማራ
የተቆረጠ ጡት ሃውልት የምሰራ

ስርዓት አድርጉ !!!

የኮራሁ እባብ ነኝ ልቤ የጠነባ አይደለሁም ትግሬ
ነቀምት ዩኒቨርሱቲ ካ5ኛ ፎቅ ላይ አማራን ወርውሬ
ፈጥፍጨ ገድየ እሬሳ የምልክ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ብየ የማላክክ
የቆሸሽኩ ኋላ ቀር አይደለሁም ትግሬ
በስሜ ምኮራ እፉኝት ነው ዘሬ
እባብ ነው ብሄሬ

ሰው ሆይ ስርአት ያዝ!! እኔ ኩሩ እባብ ነኝ።

አማራን በ ህይወት ገደል ውስጥ ወርውሮ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ከሚል በጎን ዞሮ
ሰውን ያክል ፍጡር አርዶ ጫካ ጥሎ
ምንም እንዳልሰማ አንዳላየ መስሎ
አብሮ ከሚአለቅሰው ነጠላ ዘቅዝቆ
እንዴት ከትግሬ ጋር ስሜ ተደባልቆ
ባንድነት ይጠራ
ከ ቆሻሻ ጋራ ?

ኧረረረረ ትግሬ ማ እንዳትሉኝ

ባክሱም ዩኒቨርሲቲ መቀሌ ኮሌጆች
የኦሮሞ አማራን Genius ተማሪወች
በትምርት ጎብዘው ባይምሮ ሲመጥቁ
ተተኪ ሙህራን ለ 2ቱ ክልል እንዳይመረቁ
በጩቤ ወግቼ ቆራርጨ የማርድ
መርዝ ከምግብ ጋር ሰጥቼ ማሳብድ??

ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ትግሬ አትበሉኝ


አወ፣ አሁንም አቁሙ

የትግሬን ያጋሜን በተንኮል የተላ የበከተ ልብ
ፈፅሞ አያውቀውም ምስኪን ነው እባብ
ስሜን አትመስሉ በ በሰበሰ ህዝብ
ወርቅ ላበደረው ጥይትን በሚያዘንብ
ከቅማል አውጥቶ
ካምበጣ አለያይቶ
ቁርጥ፣ ክትፎ እንጀራ ያበላ ወገኑን
መርዝ በሚያቦካ በትግሬ አትመስሉን
እኛ ኮ እባቦች ነን ዘብሄረ እፉኝት
ትግሬ አትበሉን stop it stop it

ሊገልህ ሲፈልግ ልጅ የሚወልድልህ
ትግሬ ጭቃ ነው እባብ እንዳይመስልህ።

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Lakeshore » 24 Feb 2021, 21:58

አንግዲህ ያው የሚያዋጣችሁ ወደ ድሮው ሙያችሁ መመለስ ነው ልዋጭ ለዋጭ አና ልመና ለዛውም ጀርባችሁ ተመርምሮ ነው። ሮኬት በኣየነስውር ኣስተኮሳችሁ አናንተ የፈራች ሁትን መከላከያችንን ወልደሰላሴ ኣይነ ሰወር ስለሆነና መሞከሪያ ኣደረጋችሁ ከዋሻው መጀመሪኣ አንዲወጣ ኣድረጋችሁ ኣስገደላችሁት ግፈኞችናችሁ ከዛ ደግሞ ያችን ኣጋሜ ኣሮጊት ዋሻ ውስጥ በሽማግሌው ስብሃት መሸ ነጋ ይደለም ኧስደፍራችሁ ገደል ጣላችሁዋት። ከዛደግሞ በኣወሮፓ አና ኣሜሪካ መንገድ በንጻ አይተንከባለላችሁ ስታጸዱ ከረማችሁ ኣሁን በመጨረሻው ደግሞ ኮሌስትሮላች ሁን ለመቅነስ ረሃብ ኣድማ አያልችሁ ነው አሱም ኣይሰራም የሚቀረው አንግዲህ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ምጥታችሁ ከሃዲውን ኣጋሜ ሀዝብ አርዱት ተዋጉ ኑና።
በዛውም ፋኖ ፣ መከላከያ ምን ማለት አንደሆነ በደንብ ትማራላች ሁ። በዛውም ልዋጭ ልዋጩ ካዋጥ ተሞክሩታላች ሁ ሌላ አንኩን ጭንቅላት ስለሌለ ለናተ ኣይሆንም።

↩ እኔ እባብ ነኝ።
ሰው ሆይ ተወኝ እንጂ በትግሬ አትመስለኝ
ድንጋይ ተደፍቶብኝ ታጥፌ ባደርኩኝ
ባገኝም ነድፌ ባጣም ተጠቅልየ
ኑሮየን በገፋሁ ጉድጓድ ውስጥ ተጥየ

እንከባበራ!! አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
ማንን ገደልኩና ወንዝ ተሻግሬ??
የትኛውን ብልት በገመድ አስሬ
ጠርሙስ አንጠልጥየ
ጥፍሩን ነቃቅየ
ፂሙን ነጭቼ ነው
ትግሬ የምባለው??
የማንን ደም መጠጥኩ ተከዜን አልፌ
ቅማል ሆኜ ትኋን ከሰው ተለጥፌ ?
እኔ ፎቅ አልሰራሁ ኦሮሞን ዘርፌ
ሳይመቼኝ በኖርኩ እሾህ ብርድ ታቅፌ

እንዴ!!!!

አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
አትጩሁ አስሬ
ህፃን፣ እርጉዝ ሳልል
በስናይፐር የምገል
ሙሽራ፣ ና አሮጊት
ምረሽን በጥይት
አይደለሁም ትግሬ ታጥቦ የማይጠራ
ለማጋጨት ብየ ኦሮሞን ካማራ
የተቆረጠ ጡት ሃውልት የምሰራ

ስርዓት አድርጉ !!!

የኮራሁ እባብ ነኝ ልቤ የጠነባ አይደለሁም ትግሬ
ነቀምት ዩኒቨርሱቲ ካ5ኛ ፎቅ ላይ አማራን ወርውሬ
ፈጥፍጨ ገድየ እሬሳ የምልክ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ብየ የማላክክ
የቆሸሽኩ ኋላ ቀር አይደለሁም ትግሬ
በስሜ ምኮራ እፉኝት ነው ዘሬ
እባብ ነው ብሄሬ

ሰው ሆይ ስርአት ያዝ!! እኔ ኩሩ እባብ ነኝ።

አማራን በ ህይወት ገደል ውስጥ ወርውሮ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ከሚል በጎን ዞሮ
ሰውን ያክል ፍጡር አርዶ ጫካ ጥሎ
ምንም እንዳልሰማ አንዳላየ መስሎ
አብሮ ከሚአለቅሰው ነጠላ ዘቅዝቆ
እንዴት ከትግሬ ጋር ስሜ ተደባልቆ
ባንድነት ይጠራ
ከ ቆሻሻ ጋራ ?

ኧረረረረ ትግሬ ማ እንዳትሉኝ

ባክሱም ዩኒቨርሲቲ መቀሌ ኮሌጆች
የኦሮሞ አማራን Genius ተማሪወች
በትምርት ጎብዘው ባይምሮ ሲመጥቁ
ተተኪ ሙህራን ለ 2ቱ ክልል እንዳይመረቁ
በጩቤ ወግቼ ቆራርጨ የማርድ
መርዝ ከምግብ ጋር ሰጥቼ ማሳብድ??

ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ትግሬ አትበሉኝ


አወ፣ አሁንም አቁሙ

የትግሬን ያጋሜን በተንኮል የተላ የበከተ ልብ
ፈፅሞ አያውቀውም ምስኪን ነው እባብ
ስሜን አትመስሉ በ በሰበሰ ህዝብ
ወርቅ ላበደረው ጥይትን በሚያዘንብ
ከቅማል አውጥቶ
ካምበጣ አለያይቶ
ቁርጥ፣ ክትፎ እንጀራ ያበላ ወገኑን
መርዝ በሚያቦካ በትግሬ አትመስሉን
እኛ ኮ እባቦች ነን ዘብሄረ እፉኝት
ትግሬ አትበሉን stop it stop it

ሊገልህ ሲፈልግ ልጅ የሚወልድልህ
ትግሬ ጭቃ ነው እባብ እንዳይመስልህ።

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Ethoash » 25 Feb 2021, 07:47

what is wrong if EU try to stop China from putting root in Africa and Ethiopia ... that is self interest now it is Ethiopia obligation to escape this Bs AND managed both superpower as say come.. now EU see Ethiopia as week and they try to stop us ... for sure they will do it..

some Eritrea might say it is bad to take loan or any aid money from EU . that is fine but let us say what Eritreans achieved for the last 30 years. they should be the last to speak about anything .. they should compere themselves with Djibouti not Ethiopia .. look Djibouti become world class port while Assab become a Camel drinking hole.


when Japan was bombed to ground at world war II, they accepted all the aid and the loan to rebuild their nation .. on the other hand the Russia and other idiot say no and look at them... it is not important to take the money ... what u use the money is important if u going to build Assab port to make it modern then the aid or the loan is working for u ... if u waited until u make your own money u must be one idiot..

let me give example when u come to America 40 years ago house sale for 40,000 dollar .. now the same house sold for million dollar after 40 years.

now one idiot Eritrean said i will not take bank loan i will save my own money and he saved 40,000 dollar after 40 years but the house price is now one million dollars so he will keep on saving until he die but he will not buy the house because of inflation .. now the smart Golden took 40,000 dollar and bought the house 40 years ago now he is a millionaires... this is how economy work u cant wait .. time is flying inflation eating away your saving so u cant be rich by saving .. u only become rich by investing the best investment is when u invest with other people money..

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by ZEMEN » 25 Feb 2021, 10:28

Ethoash wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 07:47
what is wrong if EU try to stop China from putting root in Africa and Ethiopia ... that is self interest now it is Ethiopia obligation to escape this Bs AND managed both superpower as say come.. now EU see Ethiopia as week and they try to stop us ... for sure they will do it..

some Eritrea might say it is bad to take loan or any aid money from EU . that is fine but let us say what Eritreans achieved for the last 30 years. they should be the last to speak about anything .. they should compere themselves with Djibouti not Ethiopia .. look Djibouti become world class port while Assab become a Camel drinking hole.


when Japan was bombed to ground at world war II, they accepted all the aid and the loan to rebuild their nation .. on the other hand the Russia and other idiot say no and look at them... it is not important to take the money ... what u use the money is important if u going to build Assab port to make it modern then the aid or the loan is working for u ... if u waited until u make your own money u must be one idiot..

let me give example when u come to America 40 years ago house sale for 40,000 dollar .. now the same house sold for million dollar after 40 years.

now one idiot Eritrean said i will not take bank loan i will save my own money and he saved 40,000 dollar after 40 years but the house price is now one million dollars so he will keep on saving until he die but he will not buy the house because of inflation .. now the smart Golden took 40,000 dollar and bought the house 40 years ago now he is a millionaires... this is how economy work u cant wait .. time is flying inflation eating away your saving so u cant be rich by saving .. u only become rich by investing the best investment is when u invest with other people money..
You sound too stupid and you have no clue how the loan works. Yes, the beautiful you said the Djibouti, well watch it taking over my China very shortly. I will give you example, Tigray has been building all factories, the infrastructures and wealth, at the expense of the Ethiopian people but where is it now? Done destroyed, a complete destruction. Why do you think this happen?
by the way i rather be begging to wage a war to defend my self than rolling all over the streets of the west and the US. after all what kind of army will retreat 700 k.m on three weeks? You guessed it. again why do you think it is?

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 02 Mar 2021, 18:25

sarcasm

Trust me, It's all about containing China, According to anonymous source, the EU and the US had given Ethiopia six months to cut trade and diplomatic ties with China or face economic sanctions, Ethiopia is caught between a rock and a hard place.

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Ethoash » 04 Mar 2021, 07:24

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
02 Mar 2021, 18:25
sarcasm

Trust me, It's all about containing China, According to anonymous source, the EU and the US had given Ethiopia six months to cut trade and diplomatic ties with China or face economic sanctions, Ethiopia is caught between a rock and a hard place.
AbyssiniaLorry

u r 1000000000000000000000000000% but one thing u forget about is who the Golden were skillful traded the trouble water and befriended with both power and make Ethiopia the fastest growing economy. now ur buddy is ISISISIS aWARFI Deal with it...

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Lakeshore » 04 Mar 2021, 15:43

ዓልነገርኩሽም ወይ ባጥር ተንጠልጥዬ ኣጋሜ ውሽማ አንጂ ባል ኣይሆንም ብዬ

የተባለው ያለምክኛት ኣልነበረም ይህንኑ ባህሪያች ሁን ለመግልጽ ነው።

ውስጠ ውይራ ነው ለንደ አናተ ኣየነቱ ድንጋይ ራስ አንዳይገባውና አንዳይበስጭ

boot licking is not skill that is envied but it is emanating from lack of self respect and inferiority. It is proven time and time again Agames as a society are victims of this syndrome. All agames has to be herded to a labor come and re indoctrinated to be a productive human being. That at list will take about 5 years if the indoctrination is intensive and if not about 7 years.

The time is ripe to implement it like the soviet era gulag but more human way. Tigre will get redemption from hard work in the gulag.

As the Germans said once " Arbeit macht frei" meaning "Work sets you free" or "Work makes one free" then yo will be free from your inferiority at last and you will thank us for that.

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Ethoash » 06 Mar 2021, 08:30

Lakeshore wrote:
04 Mar 2021, 15:43


boot licking is not skill that is envied but it is emanating from lack of self respect and inferiority.
lowshore,

ከአንተ ጋራ መነጋገር በጣም አድካሚ ነው።

ጀግና የሚባለው እኮ በስው ደም አይደለም ። ለምሳሌ አባት ህ መንጌ ጀግና ነበር ሚሊዬን ወታደር ጦር ሜዳ ስዶ ሲያሳጭድ። ግን የሱ ተራ ሲመጣ ሮጦ አመለት። አንተም አሜሪካ ታክሲህን እየነዳህ ተደላድለህ እየኖርክ በሚስኪኖች ደም ጀግና ለመሆን ትፈልጋለህ ። ለምን አባት ህ ነው በደርግ ግዜ ጦርነት ከሜድ ሸሽተህ አሜሪካ የገባዅና የአሜሪካን አሮጌቶችና ሽማግሌዎች የፐርስናል ፅዳት የምት ስጠው ለምን ጀግና ነኝ ብለህ ተኮፍሰህ አትኖርም ታድያ ። ጥርገህ ጠራርገህ አይንህን ወገብህን አጎብጠህ እፍህን ሎግመህ ነው የምታገለግለው ለአሜሪካኖች የባሪያ አለቆች ህ ። ግን ሚስኪኑን ሕዝብ ተነስ በለው ግደለው መርሽው ትላለህ። አሜሪካ ጦርነት ከኢትዬዽያ ጋራ ካደረጉ አንድ ወታደር አይልኩም ከማን ጋራ ነው የምትዋጋው ከድሮን ጋራ ከሚሳየል ጋራ በአንድ ቀን ነበር እምሽክ የሚያረጉህ ልኩን የማያውቅ ተላላ።

አዎ ግጥም አርጌ የአሜሪካኖችን ቡቲ በምላሴ እልሳለሁ። ፈሪ የምባለው የምልስው የእኔ ሕይወት ለማዳን ፈልጌ ከሆነ ነው። እያልኩት ያለሁት አብይ የመቆ ሚሊዬን ሕዝቦችን ሕይወት ለማዳን ስራው የአሜሪካኖችን ቡቲ በምላሱ መላስ ካስፈለገም ሌላም ሌላም ነገር አድርጎ ሕዝቦቹን ከጥቃት ማዳን ነው።

ጃፓኖች ላይ ሂሮሽማ ቦንብ ሲጣል ። የጃፓን ንጉስ እጁን ስጠ ለምን መስለህ እጁን የስጠው ሕዝቡ እንዳይገደልበት በማስብ ነው። ስልጣኑን ለአንድ አሜሪካ የጦር ሹም ስጥቶ ጃፓን በአሜሪካ ቁጥጥር ስር ግኝ ግዛት በለው ግን አሜሪካኖች ስለሆኑ ሕገመንግስት ፃፉላቸው ጃፓንንም አሳደጉዋት ። እንጂ ንጉስ እጁን ስጥቶዋል ለማን ለሕዝቡ ይህ ፈሪ አያረገውም ። ሕዝቡን በማዳኑ። አሁንም አባይ ብቻውን ቢሆን አሜሪካንን ሙልጭ አርጎ ቢሳደብ ጀግና እለዋለሁ ግን ሕዝብን ጋሻ እርጎ ሕዝብን ቢያሳልቅ ልክ እንደጋዳፊ ልክ እንድሳዳም እንደሲሪያው መሪ አፍ እላፊ እንደውሻ መንገድ ላይ ያስጎትታል። ትልቅ ወርደት ትልቅ ቅሌት ። ይህም የሆነው ስንትና ስንት ገንዘብ ኖራቸው አገር ለቀው ቢወጡ ዘንጠው መኖር ሲችሉ እነሱም ተገድለው አገሪቱንም ደባቅ ከተው ይህንን ነው በአገራችን እንዲደገም አብይን የምትገፋፋው ። እንኲዋን አንድ አይደለም መቶ ቦቲ ልሶ ከጦርነት ቢያድነን ጀግና ነው የምለው።

ግን እንደአንተን አማሮች ስምቶ ትግሬዎችን ወሮ መውጫ ጠፍቶታል። ከአሁን በኋላ ከስማቹሁ ወርድ ከራሴ። እንደሴት ቀሚስ ለብሶ ሲሽሽ ነው የምያዛውና የውሻ ሞት የሚጠብቀው።

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by Lakeshore » 06 Mar 2021, 18:22

Let them do it we already got more than that from the junta loot. Instead of you junta's use, the money let the Germans keep it for themselves. Once we cleaned you out they will come back begging to invest. Do you think they give it for free stupid Agame? No, they have their own interest and trade relation. They want to sell their product here. Especially they want the to enter in the Banking system. It is a bluff for a better deal they do not care about useless agames.

Did you know Hitler gave Ethiopia 10 000 mousier and three airplanes during the second world war so that we can eliminate you,r bands, and Mussolini, even if they signed a non-aggression pact between them? Because Italy took Libya and he was afraid if they win Ethiopia Mussolini will be emboldened and become a problem for Hitler's dominance. It is all about interest and but they do not like bands like you Agames too.

I did tell you before and now you saw what happened. Useless Agame!

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Re: EU to strip Ethiopia of its status as a "reform partner."? - Germany lawmaker

Post by sarcasm » 18 Sep 2021, 08:33

sarcasm wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 19:02
ZEMEN wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 11:36
sarcasm wrote:
23 Feb 2021, 09:24
German-Ethiopian relations suffer over Tigray

Germany would like a good relationship with Ethiopia, but the Tigray crisis is straining ties. Berlin has relied on diplomacy to push for peace, yet some say that is not enough.

A call from German Chancellor Angela Merkel is bound to be about something important. When she called Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed in early February this year, for example, she stressed how vital it was to find a peaceful resolution to the Tigray conflict, according to her spokesman, Steffen Seibert. The German leader also said civilians caught up in the fighting must receive humanitarian assistance.

Merkel's call was the biggest indication of Germany's concern about the crisis so far, though in late November, just weeks after fighting began, Foreign Minister Heiko Maas met with his counterpart in Berlin to discuss what was happening in Tigray. At the time, Maas called the suffering "shocking" and demanded that "crimes against the civilian population be investigated and those guilty of them held accountable."

Humanitarian catastrophe
None of these appeals has so far helped deescalate the conflict. On the contrary, the situation in the crisis region has deteriorated further. What began in November 2020 as a short military intervention against the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) has since developed into a protracted regional conflict.

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So you happy? is what all about? Anyway how much did they withheld from giving to Eritrea? Do you know? point Abiy is following Eritrea and telling to jump in the lake. Isaias told them a long time to shove it to their behind. That is the only out. The reason what they are doing to Ethiopia, Ethiopia started refusing to bend for them. Bending is gone with the werada TPLF.
I want Ethiopia to continue to keep the "reform partner" status and the aid and assistance that come with it. To keep the status and the aid, Ethiopia has to peacefully resolve the Tigray War and allow all civilians caught up in the conflict to get humanitarian assistance. But, if she chooses the "Eritrean Way", then the reform partners status and the benefits associated with it will be lost.

Ethiopia is at a crossroads. I want Ethiopia to peacefully resolve the Tigray War and allow all civilians caught up in the conflict to get humanitarian assistance to keep the "reform status". I don't think the Eritrean Way is the only way out. There are two choices: 1, the Eritrean way 2, the peaceful / negotiated way.
Abiy could have negotiated in February to end the war. But he decided against negotiated end to the war. We all can see the consequence of the wrong choice. Again, he is given a second chance and he has to make his choice. The choices have always been two. 1, the Eritrean way 2, the peaceful / negotiated way.

Everybody knows that the Eritrean way has led Eritrea to be one of the very poorest countries in the world. The population should have reached 10 million by now but it is still 3.6 million.

The Amhara elite would want Abiy to choose the Eritrean way which leads to what some call Megdela II. What do the other Ethiopians want Abiy to choose? What do the rest of Ethiopia gain by paying heavy economic and human costs for the next 30 years for Amhara region to annex Western Tigray? That is the question.

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