Ethiopian professional journalists bringing the TRUTH out (ESAT traditional journalists asking Government to jail them)
Posted: 22 Feb 2021, 14:24
Ethiopian News & Opinion
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In law, the burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused. I don not know how you do it in Tigray, but internationally it is common practice to hold an accuser accountable by asking evidence. It is not like you claim someone is a killer and the police or court will ask him to defend the accusation. May be in Tigray that is the norm, but everywhere else they ask the one who is accusing what his evidence is.eden wrote: ↑22 Feb 2021, 14:56There’s no Atomic bombs without Chemicals. That’s how I understood his claim. I admit I’m no expert.
I say let him speak and let government or other private media defend it or explain it. ESAT may invite such experts and make a joke out of his claim but they can’t ask to shut down the press without providing arguments or counter arguments against ethiotube.com for being irresponsible.
You lived under hgdef for decades so you trust rulers over cool citizens and journalists. You are one sad case, you allowed G15 to rot instead of giving them opportunity to prove their innocence or not.
You are the accuser here accusing him of fabrication. So, according to you, the burden is on you. Does that help you see why you should not shutdown the press and jail journalists who bring out the issues?
Yes, I am accusing him that he is lying. In this case, since the burden of proof lies with me, i gave you my proof that Ethiopia do not have the technology to use the same weapon the US had used in Japan as he is claiming. Second, I indicated that it was not chemical weapon that was used in Japan, it was atomic bomb. I have proved the fact. What more do you want?
Because the accused is always not guilty until evidence is presented. In this case if he is lying that Ethiopia has used the kind of weapon that the US used in Japan, he may be lying about other issues as well. The accused ,whether it is government or individual, is always presumed not guilty until the accuser meets his burden of prove.Why are you giving the government the benefit of the doubt but not the media who supposedly vetted their guests?
I never argue that any media should shut down. It depends on them. There is what we call media ethics and medias follow a set of strict standards stipulated by law. Media doesn't mean free licence to disinform people and spit venom. Like everybody else, journalists or medias are accountable to their actions.Does that help you see why you should not shutdown the press and jail journalists who bring out the issues?
[/quote]Cartmann wrote: ↑22 Feb 2021, 15:19In law, the burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused. I don not know how you do it in Tigray, but internationally it is common practice to hold an accuser accountable by asking evidence. It is not like you claim someone is a killer and the police or court will ask him to defend the accusation. May be in Tigray that is the norm, but everywhere else they ask the one who is accusing what his evidence is.eden wrote: ↑22 Feb 2021, 14:56There’s no Atomic bombs without Chemicals. That’s how I understood his claim. I admit I’m no expert.
I say let him speak and let government or other private media defend it or explain it. ESAT may invite such experts and make a joke out of his claim but they can’t ask to shut down the press without providing arguments or counter arguments against ethiotube.com for being irresponsible.
You lived under hgdef for decades so you trust rulers over cool citizens and journalists. You are one sad case, you allowed G15 to rot instead of giving them opportunity to prove their innocence or not.
I have always called for citizens' right for fair trial. Don't spin the matter to escape from the argument. This thread is not about the G15, it is about the G11
I wish you were right and I was wrong but I have difficulty accepting your two "proofs."Cartmann wrote: ↑22 Feb 2021, 17:13Yes, I am accusing him that he is lying. In this case, since the burden of proof lies with me, i gave you my proof that Ethiopia do not have the technology to use the same weapon the US had used in Japan as he is claiming. Second, I indicated that it was not chemical weapon that was used in Japan, it was atomic bomb. I have proved the fact. What more do you want?
Even Halafi Mengedi knows what ጨሚካል or ኣጦሚቕ weapon means. Ask himeden wrote: ↑22 Feb 2021, 17:32
I wish you were right and I was wrong but I have difficulty accepting your two "proofs."
You see you need to prove to the forum that Drones do not involve chemicals and Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't involve chemicals that are the same. One.
Second, you need to prove Ethiopia army or UAE do not own the Drone Technology.
If you do both, I would join you in accusing the media for letting him speak. Otherwise, I assume it's cover up and you should not be comfortable with that.