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Lakeshore
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Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF. Therefore, they will be under our control.

Post by Lakeshore » 13 Feb 2021, 12:33

The Ethiopian government has the absolute right and responsibility of protecting its citizens who are leaving in its sovereign territory. In this, right and responsibility, the collective wellbeing of all Ethiopians precede the local or regional interest.

As we know in the past 27 the TPLF revolutionary democracy divided the country along the ethnic line and impoverished some regions and created mistrust among Ethiopians in order to protect the Tigre region. This policy was brought forward under the wrong precondition of regions that bear major casualties the war between Ethiopian and Eritrea war to be developed first.

With this pretext, TPLF impoverished looted and took the natural resources from other Ethiopian regions to enrich themselves. The Tigre people collaborated with TPLF and took advantage of the draconian law and benefited at the expense of other none Tigre Ethiopians. Especially created regional governments based on bloodlines, which were the old colonial divide and rule policy. This policy is the root cause of current mistrust among other none Tigre Ethiopians.

However, with the eradication of the TPLF junta, Ethiopia should abandon the backward and anti-development tribal division. we have to give preceding to the collective wellbeing of the country as a whole. Until democratically elected parliament is established, If regional policies are forwarding their policy while guaranteeing these collective well being we shouldn't have any problem. however, if the regional policies are found to be hindering the general well being Ethiopians then collective well-being should take precedence.

In the current situation, there is no law that says one region is should be governed by its own regional ethnics only. For example, Tigre took by force Wolqaiyet and Tegede by and put them under the Tigre administration but they are Amhara in ethnicity. That means they can take the administration from Tigre or in the other option the Government of Ethiopia can appoint any Ethiopian to govern Tigre. Tigre is not reserved for Tigre only this must be understood whether they like it or not, that is what ENDF is doing. Even Abiy can put Tigre under military administration if they continue to disrupt the peace process. TPLF has been in Addis Ababa now we defeated them it is only fair especially for Tigre peoples to experience the just Amharan governance for once.

In short, it should not be Tigre only as long us we librated them then anyone can be thee governer of cursed land Tigre if they want. That is the next step no appeasement for the Tigre people. Losers are under the mercy of the winner on their cultural game. we beat them even if they have the home advantage of rocky caves.
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Wedi
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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF

Post by Wedi » 13 Feb 2021, 12:43

Lakeshore, great piece. You have said it all in this short text.

Thank you!!

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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF

Post by Jaegol » 13 Feb 2021, 13:10

As little as it is currently without raya & wolkayit it’s smaller than sidama or wolayta... so tigre province should be annexed by Amhara or afar

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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF

Post by Lakeshore » 13 Feb 2021, 14:23

Thank you for the understanding, Wedi, and Jaegol

I want to add something, Tigre always miss understood or they are still in denial because ENDF was not brute enough to their level of cruelty.
Even if that is the case, our fathers fought in Adwa for the same love of freedom and equality. Tigre is our land since our fathers spilled their blood and protected it. Yes. it is moral and democratic value to let regional govern themselves by creating their regional government but That government must be in sync with the Majority rule of the nation. For example, one regional government can not declare Apartheid, sharia, or an environment that other Ethiopians can't live in that region safely or fairly that is not approved by the broad majority as the rogue so-called regional government TPLF did. If a region tried to implement sharia or apartheid or something like that then it makes that region a rogue region and will be dealt with accordingly in order to safeguard the majority interest and freedom. That is what just happened in Tigre. TPLF was eliminated by collective armed force in order to protect Ethiopian interest in Tigre and of course, Tigre's under the TPLF's brutal administration
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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF. Therefore, they will be under our cont

Post by Lakeshore » 13 Feb 2021, 22:53

Dr, Abiy should stop to appease terrorists. The more he tried to engage with them the most motivated they got. This hostage negotiation 101. Criminals and terrorists have always craved attention and we should deprive them. This could be realized by being firm on measures already started and continued to intensify with overwhelming military force and economic blockade.

Actually. we should be well coming the stay home failed action and extend it for two weeks or three.

ያረረበት ያማስል አንደሚባለው

Then there will not be anyone on the street. Then police can do a house to house search and interview. The information can help to filter out the criminals and where about the remaining few juntas.

ENDF and police should double their action and keep the business stay closed. Until the criminals and collaborators smoked out of their holes. It has been proven time and time again peoples and international communities are always on the side of strong governments. Abiy should not hear too much about the noise of the UN and some other organization because they are saving their face by just giving press realize so, later on, they will not be accused of pacifism.
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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF. Therefore, they will be under our cont

Post by tarik » 13 Feb 2021, 23:03

LAKESHORE: i agree with ur message, and also u must know that cursed-land-tigray ppl only understand z language of death and war, u must never negotiate with terrorist-evil cursed-land-tigray evil ppl u know they created terrorist-tigray-tplf so if tplf were evil so were z cursed-land-tigray 2. I know what abiy is doing, z USA style of CARROT & STICK Policy, but that policy will never work on agams. REMEMBER:--ONLY A DEAD AGAME IS A GOOD AGAME. U OVER FEED THEM THEY WILL EAT U ALIVE, U MUST KEEP THEM NOT HUNGRY AND NOT FULLY FULL EVEN WITH THEIR FREEDOM.

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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF. Therefore, they will be under our cont

Post by Lakeshore » 14 Feb 2021, 11:42

አልም ነው ጭልጥ ነው ውስኪ ኣየላመጥም ፥ ጂን ኣየላመጥም
ጠላት (ትግሬ) ወዳጅ ላይሆን ኣልለማመጥም አንደተባለው

we do not need to appease these ungrateful Tigre peoples. They are enablers of the TPLF JUNTA criminals. we should not discount the level of support they were giving to the criminals. Before the war when the game Juntas is fleeing to Mekele, peoples over there were not saying anything actually many of those Tigre in PP are still supporters of the junta. However, now when reality sets in they adamantly stayed neutral but not supporting the change. They measure everything according to the benefit they can get they have no loyalty to anyone except the JUNTA.

After the war, Abyi shouldn't make his priority to rebuild the Brocken roads, communication schools, and even civil services. They damaged it and let them repair it or ask the so-called Humanitarian organization to pay for the repair. Why on earth, we have to spend our taxpayer's money on these ungratefully Tigre. Once Mengistu said

የትግሬ ህዝብ ወርቅ ብታነጥፉለት ፋንዲያ ነው የልች ሁዋል አንዳለው
Tigre is a decedent society full of conspiracy theories and empty bravado. what they need is an iron fist.

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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF. Therefore, they will be under our cont

Post by Aurorae Borealis » 14 Feb 2021, 12:00

Lakeshore,

I have to disagree with you on this one. If Ethiopia does not get out of this revenge factor, Ethiopia will be done. The Ethnic federalism itself is created because of the suspicion of the Amhara domination of the past. It still lingers on other none amhara ethnic groups. The weyanes avenged on the amhara. The Oromos view with strong suspicion about the amhara domination. Some amharas want to pay back to the Tigrayans, where does it stop ? I say forget and move on. Understand one another and create a system that makes the country viable and prosperous.

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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF. Therefore, they will be under our cont

Post by Lakeshore » 14 Feb 2021, 19:12

Aurorae,
I agree but didn't we do that? Did not we let the petty criminal Agames go free? Did not we send our elderlies, religious leaders, mothers, and fathers before the downfall of TPLF and after actually just yesterday? You should be fair and just in your criticism and stick only to the facts, not the opinion.

for example, you have said I quote, If Ethiopia does not get out of this revenge factor, Ethiopia will be done. that is an opinion or a scare tactic every hardline ethnic-based groups said. Ethiopia has been through many ups and downs and this is not any different. We are still here.

If we let our love of ethnicity take us to the brink of disintegration then let it be, in that case, we can differentiate between the strength of what keeps us together and the strength of our difference that tries to disintegrate us. Only then we can come to real unity.

You also said I quote, " The Ethnic federalism itself is created because of the suspicion of the Amhara domination of the past. It still lingers on other none Amhara ethnic groups." no it is not lingering itis acted upon it, and many Amharas are killed by radical OLF and OFECO. This is caused by TPLF propaganda and false fabricated history supported by some foreign interest groups. The Amhara was targeted because of their own demented thought of Amhara as an operasive ethnic.

That is also not true and it is your opinion. TPLF was a terrorist group under the cover of marxism that couldn't get any support. Later in their history switched to Revolutionary democracy and ethnic-based federalism. They created a fertile ground for hard-line ethnic federalist or splinter groups under the so-called constitution to disintegrate the country. It is not Amhara, even some OLF leaders argued there is not ethnic Amhara. That is why Amhara becomes a victim because they do not have a village mentality but they are forced to look for one. They were killed everywhere within their own country. Now they become Amhara to protect themselves.

What I am saying here we do not need to bleed especially Amhara to keep Ethiopia United. If Tigre missed the TPLF leadership that is bad for them it is gone not to come back again. If they tried to disrupt the development peace process then they become the problem and face the consequence. After this, they deserve the wrath of united Ethiopia no more appeasement. They tried us with war and they loose therefore the only choice they have to leave under the law of the land.

Campaigning against Ethiopia is treason and they should be dealt with harshly. The only reason why we did all peaceful processes until now is because of the assumption that the Tigre people did not get the chance to choose between TPLF and the change. However, after the war, if they do not side with the change then they will be considered enablers and collaborators of TPLF and they should be fought at any coast. They can not TPLF any more for their problem and indecisiveness.

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Re: Tigre has lost it self governing privilege together with the defeat of TPLF. Therefore, they will be under our cont

Post by Lakeshore » 22 Feb 2021, 23:33

አንግዲህ ያው የሚያዋጣች ሁ ወደ ድሮው ሙያችሁ መመለስ ነው ልዋጭ ለዋጭ አና ልመና ለዛውም ጀርባችሁ ተመርምሮ ነው። ሮኬት በኣየነስውር ኣስተኮሳች ሁ አናንተ የፈራች ሁትን መከላከያችንን ወልደሰላሴ ኣይነ ሰወር ስለሆነና መሞከሪያ ኣደረጋች ሁ ከዋሻው መጀመሪኣ አንዲወጣ ኣድረጋች ሁ ኣስገደላች ሁት ግፈኞችናች ሁ ከዛ ደግሞ ያችን ኣጋሜ ኣሮጊት ዋሻ ውስጥ በሽማግሌው ስብሃት መሸ ነጋ ይደለም ኧስደፍራች ሁ ገደል ጣላች ሁዋት። ከዛደግሞ በኣወሮፓ አና ኣሜሪካ መንገድ በንጻ አይተንከባለላች ሁ ስታጸዱ ከረማች ሁ ኣሁን በመጨረሻው ደግሞ ኮሌስትሮላች ሁን ለመቅነስ ረሃብ ኣድማ አያልች ሁነው አሱም ኣይሰራም የሚቀረው አንግዲህ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ምጥታች ሁ ከሃዲውን ኣጋሜ ሀዝብ አርዱት ተዋጉ ኑና።
በዛውም ፋኖ ፣ መከላከያ ምን ማለት አንደሆነ በደንብ ትማራላች ሁ። በዛውም ልዋጭ ልዋጩ ካዋጥ ተሞክሩታላች ሁ ሌላ አንኩን ጭንቅላት ስለሌለ ለናተ ኣይሆንም።
↩ እኔ እባብ ነኝ።
ሰው ሆይ ተወኝ እንጂ በትግሬ አትመስለኝ
ድንጋይ ተደፍቶብኝ ታጥፌ ባደርኩኝ
ባገኝም ነድፌ ባጣም ተጠቅልየ
ኑሮየን በገፋሁ ጉድጓድ ውስጥ ተጥየ

እንከባበራ!! አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
ማንን ገደልኩና ወንዝ ተሻግሬ??
የትኛውን ብልት በገመድ አስሬ
ጠርሙስ አንጠልጥየ
ጥፍሩን ነቃቅየ
ፂሙን ነጭቼ ነው
ትግሬ የምባለው??
የማንን ደም መጠጥኩ ተከዜን አልፌ
ቅማል ሆኜ ትኋን ከሰው ተለጥፌ ?
እኔ ፎቅ አልሰራሁ ኦሮሞን ዘርፌ
ሳይመቼኝ በኖርኩ እሾህ ብርድ ታቅፌ

እንዴ!!!!

አትበሉኝ ትግሬ
አትጩሁ አስሬ
ህፃን፣ እርጉዝ ሳልል
በስናይፐር የምገል
ሙሽራ፣ ና አሮጊት
ምረሽን በጥይት
አይደለሁም ትግሬ ታጥቦ የማይጠራ
ለማጋጨት ብየ ኦሮሞን ካማራ
የተቆረጠ ጡት ሃውልት የምሰራ

ስርዓት አድርጉ !!!

የኮራሁ እባብ ነኝ ልቤ የጠነባ አይደለሁም ትግሬ
ነቀምት ዩኒቨርሱቲ ካ5ኛ ፎቅ ላይ አማራን ወርውሬ
ፈጥፍጨ ገድየ እሬሳ የምልክ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ብየ የማላክክ
የቆሸሽኩ ኋላ ቀር አይደለሁም ትግሬ
በስሜ ምኮራ እፉኝት ነው ዘሬ
እባብ ነው ብሄሬ

ሰው ሆይ ስርአት ያዝ!! እኔ ኩሩ እባብ ነኝ።

አማራን በ ህይወት ገደል ውስጥ ወርውሮ
ኦሮሞ ገደለህ ከሚል በጎን ዞሮ
ሰውን ያክል ፍጡር አርዶ ጫካ ጥሎ
ምንም እንዳልሰማ አንዳላየ መስሎ
አብሮ ከሚአለቅሰው ነጠላ ዘቅዝቆ
እንዴት ከትግሬ ጋር ስሜ ተደባልቆ
ባንድነት ይጠራ
ከ ቆሻሻ ጋራ ?

ኧረረረረ ትግሬ ማ እንዳትሉኝ

ባክሱም ዩኒቨርሲቲ መቀሌ ኮሌጆች
የኦሮሞ አማራን Genius ተማሪወች
በትምርት ጎብዘው ባይምሮ ሲመጥቁ
ተተኪ ሙህራን ለ 2ቱ ክልል እንዳይመረቁ
በጩቤ ወግቼ ቆራርጨ የማርድ
መርዝ ከምግብ ጋር ሰጥቼ ማሳብድ??

ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ኖ ትግሬ አትበሉኝ


አወ፣ አሁንም አቁሙ

የትግሬን ያጋሜን በተንኮል የተላ የበከተ ልብ
ፈፅሞ አያውቀውም ምስኪን ነው እባብ
ስሜን አትመስሉ በ በሰበሰ ህዝብ
ወርቅ ላበደረው ጥይትን በሚያዘንብ
ከቅማል አውጥቶ
ካምበጣ አለያይቶ
ቁርጥ፣ ክትፎ እንጀራ ያበላ ወገኑን
መርዝ በሚያቦካ በትግሬ አትመስሉን
እኛ ኮ እባቦች ነን ዘብሄረ እፉኝት
ትግሬ አትበሉን stop it stop it

ሊገልህ ሲፈልግ ልጅ የሚወልድልህ
ትግሬ ጭቃ ነው እባብ እንዳይመስልህ።
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