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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by Lakeshore » 02 Feb 2021, 19:32

Not hijacked but Amhara caused the actual change and also completed the finishing by going to war and eliminating TPLF Junta. I meant the actual arm struggle was won because of the Amhara even ENDF was saved by Amhara if we want to talk about the real truth.

Yes we have witnessed many Galla pp members last minutes heroes lined up for picture by changing different colure berates. At the same time telling the real heroes not to celebrate their victory in open by doing that they want to gloat for themselves with Amhara victory. That is what hijacking the victory mean, exploiting the humble nature of Amhara Fano and dump down the final victory over the junta. Even some Galla pp members tried to compare the fighting with TPLF JUNTA who was armed to its teeth with rocket and artillery to fighting with terroirs OLF and Querro and they couldn't able to defeat the child killer OLF.

Lets leave who actually hijacking or hijacked as it is and focus on what actually some Galla PP members are doing. Immediately after the end of the war, the Gall pp ABA Gedays went to Mekele and in an apologetic way benefiting from the victory found by Amhara and tried to look the good guys. In manner as if they are saying oh it is not us who dismantled TPLF, we are still your old servants. That was not enough, Since Galla so much intimidated by the courage of the Amhara Fano and want to divide and weaken them. Galla Shameless Abdisa opened another front through Metekel and started attacking Amhara and also agreed to standby when Sudan invade Alfashga. Their expectation was Amhara only to fight Sudan.

This what an enemy with in do. If it was not for Amhara political maneuver the death of Galla on street would not bear any fruit. It was the vice prime minster Demeke and the sacrificed amahra region leader who brought Abyi to prominent by out smart Debretsion to remain with 2 Vote only. Note the stupid Querro.
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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by gearhead » 02 Feb 2021, 19:44

Taye's cry and Demeke's and Zinash's increased activities may be part of the takeover from abichu chuffa. No worries...Diaqon Daniel will rehabilitate him at some point... :mrgreen: but, in this era, this hide and seek cannot last as long as Aste Menelik who ruled from grave yards for 7 years; rather things will spin out of control as soon as it sinks in all Hoddam zero-sum OPP cadres... For the continuation of the country, a soft take over should happen by the Demeke(ጠቅላይ)-Temesgen(ደህንነት)-Abebaw(መከላከያ); any of the chaotic poisoned oromo PPs should be confined in the fake Oromia region for as long as the dust settle. Let see for how long chuffa can rule through Facebook texts and Twitter, mark my word things will already start to look different one month from now....
Here is our Premier with his grace as Medias recently reported him/refered to
No one had doubts that Daniel's witchcraft will turn onto abiy! He eliminated him all the more OPP is calling for a support of a zombie! May be they all have lost their minds. Tigre too are waring a zombie long gone even before some of their leaders.The Abichu camouflage has worked wonders for the amhara. Too bad you cant hold on to him no more.

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 02 Feb 2021, 20:15

yaballo wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 18:16
EPRDF,

Akkami? Fayyaa?

That is a very true. But, it is a near impossible to expect fanatic & primitive weitos to accept the equal treatment of all ethnic groups in their empire of permanent miseries [eg: Ato Ze-ilmakunin - it is more like "Ilma-haadharaw" [pardon me]:shock: .

Maybe the penny would drop into their zinjero heads when a Yugoslavia-style ethnic cleansing of their relatives from other parts of Ethiopia starts in earnest.

Their ticket to grab power from the Tegarus & reverse Ethiopia back to an Amhara-dominated empire of permanent wars & miseries [aka Col. Fuga] is rejected even by them, let alone by the Oromos who propelled him to power thanks to the efforts of those invariably INEPT & full-of-crap so called Oromo activists [including Jawar Mohamed], politicians, etc.

Worst, the same could end-up costing them more than they bargained for. We shall see ...


Meanwhile today in Oromia ...
ፋሽስቱ አብይ አህመድ የቀሩት ደጋፊዎቹ ከሁሉም ጋር ሲያባሉት እና ሲያናክሱት የነበሩት የአማራ ክልል አሃዳዊያን ብቻ ነበሩ:: እነሱም ጉዳያቸውን ካስፈፀሙት በኃላ አር የነካው እንጨት አድርገውታል 😃 በመጨረሻም መግቢያው ሲጠፋው ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ሆድ አደሮችን በገንዘብ ገዝቶ "ድጋፍ አለኝ" ለማለት ብዙ ለፋ ደከመ 😃
ቄሮም ፋሽስቱ አብይ ኦሮሚያ ውስጥ ምንም አይነት የህዝብ ድጋፍ ሊኖረው እንደማይችል በቅኔ ነገረው [by tilting the banner & Col Fuga's picture upside-down]
😃


Yaballo,

KKk if anything I always muse looking at your photoshopping skills. You called me Ilma-haadharaw[ and you made my day :mrgreen: . In any case, supporting the TPLF style of mono ethnic state federalism is very impractical and tantamount to inviting genocide in the current realities of Ethiopia. Self administering doesn't mean swallowing the minorities in anyone region. Look... Addis Ababa is about 10 to 12 million population size and more than 68% identify themselves as Amhara. Imagine... that is the 3rd largest populous region in the country next to Amhara and Oromiya and, yet not even allowed to administer itself. Let's be genuine about what the realities are and what we crave to achieve. Charity starts at home!


You tend to denigrate various ethnic communities by calling them names. Isn't that what you say you are against? TPLF killed itself because of its own excessive greed and self delusion. If we go to balkanize, do you think you will emerge winners as single ethnic community? I don't wish that to happen but, if the final liquidation comes :| it won't take much to move you back to where you came from.

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by sun » 02 Feb 2021, 20:28

sun wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 19:20
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 17:23
EPRDF wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 15:30
Three years ago, the revolt of the Oromo youth aka Qeeroo that spread out from center to east and west of the country had sent TPLF, the dominant party of the ruling coalition, to its home town and brought OPDO and Abiy Ahmed to the helm of power.

The Oromo youth, Qeeroo, were the ones on the frontline to take sniper bullets of the regime and who died in thousands as a result.

If we say "the change came because of Qeero’s sacrifice," it cannot be an exaggeration.

Three years later, Abiy and his ODP, whose main social base and constituency is to be Oromo and Oromia, have lost the support of the Oromo mass because of the political direction Abiy and ODP have followed, and somehow, Abiy has now found himself surrounded by Amhara elites.

Amharas pushed Abiy into war in Tigray and they became lucky in eliminating TPLF from the national political arena, at least for the time being.

As TPLF is gone now the next war target is in Oromia against Oromo nationalists. Abiy Ahmed has now no option but to sign the term and conditions offered by its Amhara handlers.No exit for Abiy it is sealed.

Shimeles Abdisa, Taye Dendae, General Hailu Gonfa and other Gobena’s chachata is temporary. They will be purged to face their fate soon.

However, this political pressure we see that is coming from Amhara elites is taking the country to endless chaos and ultimately to the complete disintegration of this nation.

Amharas have knowingly or unknowingly been playing with fire.

To save this country, Abiy must resign and his entire administration and system must be ousted to be replaced by a transitional government that incorporates all political and concerned groups of the society ASAP. It is the only way out!
What is the kind of change you want?
He wants to end tplf trouble making activities through the kind of change in which the tplf comes out of hiding and summons all the other nations and nationalities of Ethiopia and together form a transitional Ethiopian government similar to the bygone days when tplf assumed power and landed in Menelik's palace ASP, to perform the usual circus as the Great Dictator and thereafter articulating about the Fire and the dry haystack (Esaat enna Chid) familiar analogy.

I am not a politician but yet the realities in Ethiopia demonstrates the fact that the current PM is Great Gods Great gift to Mamma Ethiopia, Mamma Eritrea and the whole of Africa, never seen and never heard before for 3000 years in Ethiopian history.

All of these noisy jealous day dreamers who keep suggesting all of these self serving transitional hallucinations instead of competing in the free and fair election and after that form a government do care a dash about the country and its diverse peoples.

Let the CIRCUS GO ON as long as many of these opposition circles may not get over heated and push the country over the cliff and give us all the equivalents of Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. !
8)


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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by sun » 02 Feb 2021, 20:43

sun wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 20:28
sun wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 19:20
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 17:23
EPRDF wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 15:30
Three years ago, the revolt of the Oromo youth aka Qeeroo that spread out from center to east and west of the country had sent TPLF, the dominant party of the ruling coalition, to its home town and brought OPDO and Abiy Ahmed to the helm of power.

The Oromo youth, Qeeroo, were the ones on the frontline to take sniper bullets of the regime and who died in thousands as a result.

If we say "the change came because of Qeero’s sacrifice," it cannot be an exaggeration.

Three years later, Abiy and his ODP, whose main social base and constituency is to be Oromo and Oromia, have lost the support of the Oromo mass because of the political direction Abiy and ODP have followed, and somehow, Abiy has now found himself surrounded by Amhara elites.

Amharas pushed Abiy into war in Tigray and they became lucky in eliminating TPLF from the national political arena, at least for the time being.

As TPLF is gone now the next war target is in Oromia against Oromo nationalists. Abiy Ahmed has now no option but to sign the term and conditions offered by its Amhara handlers.No exit for Abiy it is sealed.

Shimeles Abdisa, Taye Dendae, General Hailu Gonfa and other Gobena’s chachata is temporary. They will be purged to face their fate soon.

However, this political pressure we see that is coming from Amhara elites is taking the country to endless chaos and ultimately to the complete disintegration of this nation.

Amharas have knowingly or unknowingly been playing with fire.

To save this country, Abiy must resign and his entire administration and system must be ousted to be replaced by a transitional government that incorporates all political and concerned groups of the society ASAP. It is the only way out!
What is the kind of change you want?
He wants to end tplf trouble making activities through the kind of change in which the tplf comes out of hiding and summons all the other nations and nationalities of Ethiopia and together form a transitional Ethiopian government similar to the bygone days when tplf assumed power and landed in Menelik's palace ASP, to perform the usual circus as the Great Dictator and thereafter articulating about the Fire and the dry haystack (Esaat enna Chid) familiar analogy.

I am not a politician but yet the realities in Ethiopia demonstrates the fact that the current PM is Great God's Great gift to Mamma Ethiopia, Mamma Eritrea and the whole of Africa, never seen and never heard before for 3000 years in Ethiopian history. The facts speak for themselves!

All of these noisy jealous day dreamers who keep suggesting all of these self serving transitional hallucinations do care a dash about the country and its diverse peoples. If serious they better pursue peaceful legal approach and go to compete in the free and fair election and after that form a viable democratic government, if and when legally and properly endorsed by significant number of the electorate they hope to be serving .

Let the CIRCUS GO ON as long as many of these opposition circles may not get over heated and push the country over the cliff and give us all the equivalents of Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. !
8)

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by TGAA » 02 Feb 2021, 20:49

Noble Amhara wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 15:57


Kkkkkkkkkk real Amharas love junta and Meles Zenawi EPRDF knows very well Amharas are supportive of Sibhat Negas Policies it’s all the pretenders demanding judgement day upon weyane xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by ethioscience » 02 Feb 2021, 21:00

We fucked you up, a bunch of losers agames,!! Accept it!!,

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 02 Feb 2021, 21:03

Paid cadre wrote.
Let the CIRCUS GO ON as long as many of these opposition circles may not get over heated and push the country over the cliff and give us all the equivalents of Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. !


Ethiopia is worse than Somalia and all those other countries you mentioned, In the past six months of 2020, there were more than 6000 murders in Ethiopia, 99.99 percent of Somalia is very much stable and safe compared to unstable Ethiopia.

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by sun » 02 Feb 2021, 21:05

TGAA wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 20:49
Noble Amhara wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 15:57


Kkkkkkkkkk real Amharas love junta and Meles Zenawi EPRDF knows very well Amharas are supportive of Sibhat Negas Policies it’s all the pretenders demanding judgement day upon weyane xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Relatively very old and outdated episode which you keep digging just to uplift your egos and push down the others, not knowing that you are playing with negativism and demobilization which may play out against you in the end. Try to have healing, forgiving and community building attitude so that we may have great people and great country that can withstand external and internal human and natural challenges.

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by Lakeshore » 02 Feb 2021, 23:54

Have you seen the Amhara Fano! Their bravery and determination can shake any body let alone PP Gallas. It will not surprise me if many more Amhara will join, if any one try to push this hero's around again.

This what Ethiopian mean ready to die for their country no matter how large or armed the enemy is. We have seen this with Fascist Italy. Britain, when time passed some Galla cadres tried to deny Amhara's bravery but it is renewed again. As you heard from the Fano story, there were some Amhara special forces who were adamant to go against their order and engage with TPLF junta but when these Fano farmers ignored them and went by themselves. Then they encouraged the hesitant special forces and made them to change their mind and join them. Amhara courage is contagious especially when they fight for true cause.

We can understand If the Galla pp cadres got paranoid. However, they shouldn't be because Amhara is an inclusive society. They do not care what ever you are as long as you are peaceful. On the other hand, who on earth will vote for these narroe minded Galla because as we have seen on today protest organized by cadres by shutting government offices and closing business they were saying none Galla can't live in Galla region.

This is discriminatory policy and alienated 70% Ethiopians from their own countries. They want to form a Galla only Islamic ISIS state. The question is what then? What are they going to do with all illiterate Galla youth, Galla cadres who do not like work except drinking KatiKala? Even if they form their own state they can't sustain themselves therefore they will invade again their neighbors. Since, it is their pagan ritual that demands, male penius, human body parts and destruction of their neighbors property to weaken them and snatch their children for Gudifecha.

That is their way of life. therefore it is our duty to civilize them for the sake of our peace and sovereignty Unless and otherwise the Galla cadre with in them are defeated, it is very dangerous to live with them in power or as a neighbor. The best way forward is to defeat them in the election but if that is not the case and they try to sabotage the election Amhara people should be ready to take them dawn at any coast for the sake of the next free and fair Amhara generation sake.

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by EPRDF » 03 Feb 2021, 12:47

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 18:10
What I fail to see is your imagination of the Amhara domination when the reality is that it is the Amhara being exterminated left and right by tribal extremists and, the dead being dumped like some kind of trash in mass graves. Are you not yet satisfied seeing the bloods of innocent farmers spilled everyday just because they are perceived as Amhara and, your 'imagined" Amhara leaders saying nothing about it?
Whenever one tries to talk about the current Ethiopian political situation comprehensively by implying the Amharas role in it, the killing of Amharas in some places is raising as a point of counterargument. Ok because Amhara peasants got killed, is that mean Amharas are sanctioned to have a license to kill others, or maybe is that makes them entitled to get permission to flip the country’s politics to their favor? What is the point here?

Not only Amharas but no human being should be subject to mistreatment let alone to die in his country for who he/she is and for what he/she believes in. A Killing and maltreatment of fellow human beings are simply breaking the article of the universal human rights declaration.

On the contrary, in a country where independent investigation and inquiry commission and neutral media access is absent and strictly forbidden, how the hell can we verify and speak confidently as to how many Amharas got killed in this mess? For instance, Reportedly, we have two hundred death in Shashmene in the aftermath of Hacalu’s death, one of them is my close relative, now how can we tell to how many of them were Amharas out of the rest of one hundred ninety-nine of the victims.

Oromos got killed in Jijiga, Somalis got slaughtered in Awaday, Tigarus stoned to death in Gondar, we heard fifty thousand death in Tigray mostly Women and children in the ongoing turmoil in Tigray in the last eight weeks alone, we have nearly three million displaced across the country and most of them are who narrowly escaped death.

The bottom line is we all have an obligation to denounce all killings and to demand an immediate investigation by an independent commission to bring the perpetrators to justice. Otherwise, politicizing the situation to take political advantage won't serve any purpose.

If the government fails to protect its citizen, then the head of the state should have to resign. We don't have to keep that head of state because he killing for us someone we hate.

If Amharas feel they are being killed more because of their identity under the current administration, then they need to rise up against ADP and Abiy government in demand for justice, what are they waiting for? They just cannot have their cake and eat it too at the same time.

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 03 Feb 2021, 14:53

EPRDF wrote:
03 Feb 2021, 12:47
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
02 Feb 2021, 18:10
What I fail to see is your imagination of the Amhara domination when the reality is that it is the Amhara being exterminated left and right by tribal extremists and, the dead being dumped like some kind of trash in mass graves. Are you not yet satisfied seeing the bloods of innocent farmers spilled everyday just because they are perceived as Amhara and, your 'imagined" Amhara leaders saying nothing about it?
Whenever one tries to talk about the current Ethiopian political situation comprehensively by implying the Amharas role in it, the killing of Amharas in some places is raising as a point of counterargument. Ok because Amhara peasants got killed, is that mean Amharas are sanctioned to have a license to kill others, or maybe is that makes them entitled to get permission to flip the country’s politics to their favor? What is the point here?
How about flipping the politics in favor of all ?

Not only Amharas but no human being should be subject to mistreatment let alone to die in his country for who he/she is and for what he/she believes in. A Killing and maltreatment of fellow human beings are simply breaking the article of the universal human rights declaration.

On the contrary, in a country where independent investigation and inquiry commission and neutral media access is absent and strictly forbidden, how the hell can we verify and speak confidently as to how many Amharas got killed in this mess? For instance, Reportedly, we have two hundred death in Shashmene in the aftermath of Hacalu’s death, one of them is my close relative, now how can we tell to how many of them were Amharas out of the rest of one hundred ninety-nine of the victims.

Your poor relative died because he was perceived to be Neftegna... You also could have been killed if you were at the wrong place because the herd is against anything that fit in to their perception of Amhara. It is the Regional authorities who attested to the facts. As the mayor of the same city said " He was told to get back to sleep when he tried to communicate with the Regional President"

Oromos got killed in Jijiga, Somalis got slaughtered in Awaday, Tigarus stoned to death in Gondar, we heard fifty thousand death in Tigray mostly Women and children in the ongoing turmoil in Tigray in the last eight weeks alone, we have nearly three million displaced across the country and most of them are who narrowly escaped death.

The 50k combatants of the TPLF armed forces got killed because they were engaged in war. That is a bizarre false equivalence. TPLF got itself in this mess by choice...so please refrain from twisting facts

The bottom line is we all have an obligation to denounce all killings and to demand an immediate investigation by an independent commission to bring the perpetrators to justice. Otherwise, politicizing the situation to take political advantage won't serve any purpose.

The murders are politically motivated as affirmed by the muted response from those who are leading the country. We speak out on their behalf because the political machinery did nothing more than dumping them like trash. At times silence is more political than speaking out.

If the government fails to protect its citizen, then the head of the state should have to resign. We don't have to keep that head of state because he killing for us someone we hate.

If Amharas feel they are being killed more because of their identity under the current administration, then they need to rise up against ADP and Abiy government in demand for justice, what are they waiting for? They just cannot have their cake and eat it too at the same time.


Is ADP the head of the country? Is ADP administering Metekel and Wellega? I am not responding to your hearsay because you are honestly engaging in the conversation, but the reality has to be told under all circumstances. ADP requested the government you are accusing of catering to Amhara to send its Liyu Police and save some lives, but we all know what the response has been.

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Re: Amharas successfully hijacked the change

Post by EPRDF » 04 Feb 2021, 19:52

Wendime Za-Ilmaknun,

I tried hard to come to an agreement with you but it is very unlikely and will never happen. You and I are esat ena ched.

When I summarized your expressed view, I came to the conclusion that you are living in denial. For example, you said "fifty thousand those who perished in the ongoing war in Tigray belong to Tigray fighter/serawit" LOL.

Are you sure about that my friend? What about the verification by international diplomats and many local and external sources that proved most of the victims are civilians including women and children? Looting, raping, killing and all kind of atrocities are being committed and confirmed by these same sources, but I see you dismissing these facts and opted to believe your own lie, and you telling me that fifty thousand dead Tigray are Woyane fighters, you are amazing.

I do condemn all the killings of any human being unequivocally, but you don’t, for you, the killing spree of Tigaru is a sacred duty whereas touching Amharas is a sin/ Hatiat, is exactly what you assert in your statement so no room left for discussion. I would love to invite you to watch this video and I rest my case, buddy.

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
03 Feb 2021, 14:53
The 50k combatants of the TPLF armed forces got killed because they were engaged in war. TPLF got itself in this mess by choice...so please refrain from twisting facts

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