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Re: Axumite Kingdom was founded by Southern Arabians not Agames
1] بعض المعلومات عن مملكة دعمت الذي أسسها السبئيين المهاجرين في الألف الاول قبل الميلاد
الطرح علمي من النقوش والآثار التي وجدت في اثيوبيا
وأيضاً تصريح المستشرقين الغرب الذي قاموا بدراسة النقوش اليمنية في اثيوبيا و إريتريا
[4] Meaning of the inscription:
And Lahi Bin Fakim, the mariner, gave the café (this sacrifice) to prolong (his life)
It was found in Ethiopia when it was ruled by the Yemenis in the ancient Sabian era
[8] From the inscriptions dating back to the time of the king, Eran and his wife, with a sign in which they offered incense burners for the idol, Ilama
The king and Aran were among the Makarabites who ruled a kingdom that supported Yemenia in Ethiopia in the seventh century BC
الطرح علمي من النقوش والآثار التي وجدت في اثيوبيا
وأيضاً تصريح المستشرقين الغرب الذي قاموا بدراسة النقوش اليمنية في اثيوبيا و إريتريا
[4] Meaning of the inscription:
And Lahi Bin Fakim, the mariner, gave the café (this sacrifice) to prolong (his life)
It was found in Ethiopia when it was ruled by the Yemenis in the ancient Sabian era
[8] From the inscriptions dating back to the time of the king, Eran and his wife, with a sign in which they offered incense burners for the idol, Ilama
The king and Aran were among the Makarabites who ruled a kingdom that supported Yemenia in Ethiopia in the seventh century BC
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Re: Axumite Kingdom was founded by Southern Arabians not Agames
Tigrayans ruled Yemen. Aksumite Kingdom was b.ased in North Ethiopia and was Tigrayan.
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Re: Axumite Kingdom was founded by Southern Arabians not Agames
During Aksumite Kingdom there were no people called 'Tigrayan'
EthioRedSea wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 09:03Tigrayans ruled Yemen. Aksumite Kingdom was b.ased in North Ethiopia and was Tigrayan.
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Italy is the main base of Roman Empire. There were no Italians during the Roman Empire, but Italians are Romans by blood and culture. Tigrayans might or might not have been part of Aksumite Kingdom. But the fact is they are the only Aksumites just like Italy is related to Roman Empire. Tigray is the only region in Africa that absorbed Aksumite tradition and protects it.
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That was only in 500 AD
EthioRedSea wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 09:03Tigrayans ruled Yemen. Aksumite Kingdom was b.ased in North Ethiopia and was Tigrayan.
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When the Ethiopian empire of Aksum emerged into the light of history at the end of the 1st century ce, it…. Despite common belief to the contrary, Aksum did not originate from one of the Semitic Sabaean kingdoms of southern Arabia but instead developed as a local power.
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Aksumite (Kings) in the 1st Century only spoke Sabean. This continued into 330 AD when Ezana converted to Christianity and began to use the term " Ethiopia " in order to Christianize/Biblisied his kingdom. In fact Aksum was Agaw the rulers were Sabeans who eventually became Geez speakers this would also lead to the creation of Tigrinya and Amharic. The later Emperors of Aksum continued to marry Agaw women forming the Geez EthnicityEthioRedSea wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 10:12When the Ethiopian empire of Aksum emerged into the light of history at the end of the 1st century ce, it…. Despite common belief to the contrary, Aksum did not originate from one of the Semitic Sabaean kingdoms of southern Arabia but instead developed as a local power.
Tembiens began to speak Tigrinya during the 17th century. The province of Tigray was created during the 16th century. The Agames of Adigrat were Saho speakers. The Tigrayan identity had 0 000000000 contributions to the Aksumite Empire the Zagwe Empire and the Abysinnian Empire. list a tigrayan who developed ethiopia other then Banda Yohannes !
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Aksum was not Agew in the beginning. I do not know which tribe was controlling Aksum. It was not a nomadic tribe like the Bejas, Kunnama or Saho. Agew attacked Aksum, which led to it's down fall in 9th Century, after which the Agew took power and build the church at Lalibella. Agews are Kushites and have no relation to Geez language. But they learned and adapted it later.
Geez is a language that developed before Christ Era. It is related to Aramaic. From Geez developed probably Hebrew, Arabic and Tigrigna. Tigrayans develop Amharic language as a secret language for their army. Most soldiers were Amharas or other tribes.
Geez is a language that developed before Christ Era. It is related to Aramaic. From Geez developed probably Hebrew, Arabic and Tigrigna. Tigrayans develop Amharic language as a secret language for their army. Most soldiers were Amharas or other tribes.
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Erytrean SeaEthioRedSea wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 10:26Aksum was not Agew in the beginning. I do not know which tribe was controlling Aksum. It was not a nomadic tribe like the Bejas, Kunnama or Saho. Agew attacked Aksum, which led to it's down fall in 9th Century, after which the Agew took power and build the church at Lalibella. Agews are Kushites and have no relation to Geez language. But they learned and adapted it later.
Geez is a language that developed before Christ Era. It is related to Aramaic. From Geez developed probably Hebrew, Arabic and Tigrigna. Tigrayans develop Amharic language as a secret language for their army. Most soldiers were Amharas or other tribes.
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The Agaw are not Kushites the Agaws are indigenous Abysinnians Kushites are Nubians who are related to Afar and Somali. Agaws can be found in Abergele and Tembien their language is closer to Amharic then to Tigrinya
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Re: Axumite Kingdom was founded by Southern Arabians not Agames
You two have axumite empire heritage equally and be proud of it. Axumite empire belongs equally to the people in north Sudan, Eritrea, north Ethiopia equally and should be a uniting history instead of division factor...
And just because you hate your neighbors, trying to give the history and legacy to some foreign entities is just asinine
And just because you hate your neighbors, trying to give the history and legacy to some foreign entities is just asinine
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kodar sahsah agame go tell that to your adwa-agame friends no eritrean believes in such fairytalesJaegol wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 10:31You two have axumite empire heritage equally and be proud of it. Axumite empire belongs equally to the people in north Sudan, Eritrea, north Ethiopia equally and should be a uniting history instead of division factor...
And just because you hate your neighbors, trying to give the history and legacy to some foreign entities is just asinine
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Tesfa that's not true aksumites we're African not Arab. As an Eritrean you should be proud of the history. If axum was added to Italian Eritrea you would claim it now but. Just because its on the other side of the border. You are willing to say Arabs own that history.
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(Aksumites) referring to the people are Pagan Abysinnians but the Emperors and founders of the civilization are non African descentZack wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 12:59Tesfa that's not true aksumites we're African not Arab. As an Eritrean you should be proud of the history. If axum was added to Italian Eritrea you would claim it now but. Just because its on the other side of the border. You are willing to say Arabs own that history.
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What kind of explanation is that? is it from the perspective of intellectual or what? I think we have said or discussed about it for long period of time.
First of all there is no evidence which shows Axumite kingdom was run by Tigreans. From our understanding from history of amhara for last 1000 years, we know who the boss is. I mean Amhara knows how to govern, and even at the moment now everybody is amazed by Amharas stand about its country.
Contrary to this we can see that agames looked slaves to Amhara. They have no an iota of countenance of noble family. they Totally look rogue and day laborer.
We have clear evidence which shows Axumite kingdom related to Yemen. Sabian's script and Geez's script are totally different. Sabian language is governed by only consonant but every word in Geez has vowels. how could it happened? was our people smarter than Arabs? sure!
Again there is no evidence which shows Arabs settlement in Ethiopia before and after Christ birth.
shabo guy(Tesfabis) agame boy(Ethioredsea) please stop your bullshiiiit.
First of all there is no evidence which shows Axumite kingdom was run by Tigreans. From our understanding from history of amhara for last 1000 years, we know who the boss is. I mean Amhara knows how to govern, and even at the moment now everybody is amazed by Amharas stand about its country.
Contrary to this we can see that agames looked slaves to Amhara. They have no an iota of countenance of noble family. they Totally look rogue and day laborer.
We have clear evidence which shows Axumite kingdom related to Yemen. Sabian's script and Geez's script are totally different. Sabian language is governed by only consonant but every word in Geez has vowels. how could it happened? was our people smarter than Arabs? sure!
Again there is no evidence which shows Arabs settlement in Ethiopia before and after Christ birth.
shabo guy(Tesfabis) agame boy(Ethioredsea) please stop your bullshiiiit.
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You said it better than I can describe it. It is only Arab slaves who would deny this fact. Arab slaves would do anything to deny their own language and identity, including their own mothers to be close to the savages.
The worst insult is that as the Arab slaves try to be closer to the Arab, the Arab gets to hate them even more. You see this Arab racism to his Arab-wanabe slaves in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and the Gulf Arabs.
In Sudan the Arab slaves are so insecure, they do not want to see themselves in the mirror or defend their own languages.
The Axumite kingdom was created by the proud marine civilization of the Adulis-Axumites, some may call them Sabaeans but definitely not "Southern Arabians" because they never spoke Arabic.
Correction should made, not "north Sudan" but north east Sudan.
Read this BBC report:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53147864
The worst insult is that as the Arab slaves try to be closer to the Arab, the Arab gets to hate them even more. You see this Arab racism to his Arab-wanabe slaves in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and the Gulf Arabs.
In Sudan the Arab slaves are so insecure, they do not want to see themselves in the mirror or defend their own languages.
The Axumite kingdom was created by the proud marine civilization of the Adulis-Axumites, some may call them Sabaeans but definitely not "Southern Arabians" because they never spoke Arabic.
Correction should made, not "north Sudan" but north east Sudan.
Read this BBC report:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53147864
Jaegol wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 10:31You two have axumite empire heritage equally and be proud of it. Axumite empire belongs equally to the people in north Sudan, Eritrea, north Ethiopia equally and should be a uniting history instead of division factor...
And just because you hate your neighbors, trying to give the history and legacy to some foreign entities is just asinine
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Roha aka Mesob aka Resah
Sabeans are not Arabs you can’t get that through your arabphobic mind Roha - روحا your name is a Arabic word meaning Soul and is popular for muslim girls
Sabeans are not Arabs you can’t get that through your arabphobic mind Roha - روحا your name is a Arabic word meaning Soul and is popular for muslim girls
Roha wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 14:51You said it better than I can describe it. It is only Arab slaves who would deny this fact. Arab slaves would do anything to deny their own language and identity, including their own mothers to be close to the savages.
The worst insult is that as the Arab slaves try to be closer to the Arab, the Arab gets to hate them even more. You see this Arab racism to his Arab-wanabe slaves in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and the Gulf Arabs.
In Sudan the Arab slaves are so insecure, they do not want to see themselves in the mirror or defend their own languages.
The Axumite kingdom was created by the proud marine civilization of the Adulis-Axumites, some may call them Sabaeans but definitely not "Southern Arabians" because they never spoke Arabic.
Correction should made, not "north Sudan" but north east Sudan.
Read this BBC report:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53147864
Jaegol wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 10:31You two have axumite empire heritage equally and be proud of it. Axumite empire belongs equally to the people in north Sudan, Eritrea, north Ethiopia equally and should be a uniting history instead of division factor...
And just because you hate your neighbors, trying to give the history and legacy to some foreign entities is just asinine
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Have you ever heard of linguistic evolution? You know languages are always changing including alphabets. Sabean became Geez it took 300-400 years for it to evolve into a Ethiopic script
Also France Spain Portugal England and Romania all got there alphabets, systems, churches from the Romans. Without the romans there would be no literate European they would be like primitive barbaric africans living in caves and fighting over clans
Also France Spain Portugal England and Romania all got there alphabets, systems, churches from the Romans. Without the romans there would be no literate European they would be like primitive barbaric africans living in caves and fighting over clans
Abaymado wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 14:44What kind of explanation is that? is it from the perspective of intellectual or what? I think we have said or discussed about it for long period of time.
First of all there is no evidence which shows Axumite kingdom was run by Tigreans. From our understanding from history of amhara for last 1000 years, we know who the boss is. I mean Amhara knows how to govern, and even at the moment now everybody is amazed by Amharas stand about its country.
Contrary to this we can see that agames looked slaves to Amhara. They have no an iota of countenance of noble family. they Totally look rogue and day laborer.
We have clear evidence which shows Axumite kingdom related to Yemen. Sabian's script and Geez's script are totally different. Sabian language is governed by only consonant but every word in Geez has vowels. how could it happened? was our people smarter than Arabs? sure!
Again there is no evidence which shows Arabs settlement in Ethiopia before and after Christ birth.
shabo guy(Tesfabis) agame boy(Ethioredsea) please stop your bullshiiiit.
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Only an idiot slave who worships the savage Arabs who were far below his ancestors would give a title "... founded by Southern Arabians".
The Arabs were far behind my proud Axumite-Adulis ancestors, that they took more loan words at that time from my language Geez and others.
Shame on those who insult their own while they worship others. There is a wise Amhara saying: ብልቱ የተሰለበው ሎሌ፡ በጌታው ቆለጥ ይፎክራል።
Here is how Arabs borrowed many words from Geez and others during the rise of Islam.
https://journals.openedition.org/bcrfj/6643
My brothers and sisters did not die for Eritrea to hate itself and its own as the Arab slaves in Jebha who worshiped anything Arabian did.
The Arabs were far behind my proud Axumite-Adulis ancestors, that they took more loan words at that time from my language Geez and others.
Shame on those who insult their own while they worship others. There is a wise Amhara saying: ብልቱ የተሰለበው ሎሌ፡ በጌታው ቆለጥ ይፎክራል።
Here is how Arabs borrowed many words from Geez and others during the rise of Islam.
https://journals.openedition.org/bcrfj/6643
My brothers and sisters did not die for Eritrea to hate itself and its own as the Arab slaves in Jebha who worshiped anything Arabian did.
TesfaNews wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 15:59Roha aka Mesob aka Resah
Sabeans are not Arabs you can’t get that through your arabphobic mind Roha - روحا your name is a Arabic word meaning Soul and is popular for muslim girls
Roha wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 14:51You said it better than I can describe it. It is only Arab slaves who would deny this fact. Arab slaves would do anything to deny their own language and identity, including their own mothers to be close to the savages.
The worst insult is that as the Arab slaves try to be closer to the Arab, the Arab gets to hate them even more. You see this Arab racism to his Arab-wanabe slaves in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and the Gulf Arabs.
In Sudan the Arab slaves are so insecure, they do not want to see themselves in the mirror or defend their own languages.
The Axumite kingdom was created by the proud marine civilization of the Adulis-Axumites, some may call them Sabaeans but definitely not "Southern Arabians" because they never spoke Arabic.
Correction should made, not "north Sudan" but north east Sudan.
Read this BBC report:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53147864
Jaegol wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 10:31You two have axumite empire heritage equally and be proud of it. Axumite empire belongs equally to the people in north Sudan, Eritrea, north Ethiopia equally and should be a uniting history instead of division factor...
And just because you hate your neighbors, trying to give the history and legacy to some foreign entities is just asinine
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Again ... Islam came to existence in 610 AD by then Ethiopic Geez were ahead of the Bedouin Arabs. Aksum empire was founded by Himyarites but later the Himyarite king became Abysinnian and then conquered the Himyarites this gap is 400 years long. In fact Geez is older then Arabic (300 AD) vs Geez (100 AD) and Sabean (900 BC)