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Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
Junta eden/kerenite/sarcasm,
I think it is time for you to look for another job, because apparently your Junta is as dead as a door nail. Your EFFORTS (pun intended) to prolong your anti Eritrea and anti Ethiopia propaganda work by soliciting funds from the hapless Tegaru Diaspora communities by providing them with false hope and incorrect information has come to a dead end. When you laid off Awash after serving your junta for over 10 years on this forum, you should have known that your turn to become an unemployed junta would also come soon. I know lying is in your Junta's culture, but lying doesn't pay anymore. I suggest your get an honest job driving an Uber and share your the story of your miserable life with your passengers to solicit tips.
I think it is time for you to look for another job, because apparently your Junta is as dead as a door nail. Your EFFORTS (pun intended) to prolong your anti Eritrea and anti Ethiopia propaganda work by soliciting funds from the hapless Tegaru Diaspora communities by providing them with false hope and incorrect information has come to a dead end. When you laid off Awash after serving your junta for over 10 years on this forum, you should have known that your turn to become an unemployed junta would also come soon. I know lying is in your Junta's culture, but lying doesn't pay anymore. I suggest your get an honest job driving an Uber and share your the story of your miserable life with your passengers to solicit tips.
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
Snake eden gual Adwa,
First and foremost, there is no war in Tigray and there had been war in Tigray only for the first 17 days...That is it. Now Tigray is back to its normal situation except that it is tinier now.... If it happens for any reason that there is not peace in Tigray, I don't think it will have any impact for the Nobel Peace Prize Winner Honorable Prime Minister Dr. Abby Ahmed's government. Who cares whether there is peace or not in that least important killil Tigray which is over 800 kms away from Addis....Not only that the tiny Tigray is the least important killil and agames are minority and nobody cares about Tigray. But don't worry, the Ethiopian government will throw you sacks of wheat aid every two or three months
By the way, did you get the chance to see the photos of Sadam Hussien.. I mean Aboy Sibhat Nega....??? It really sad to watch the 85 years old Sibhat Nega to go through this during his last stage of his life. It is just disgraceful
Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
Eden Lowlanderu,
The psychological blow is too sever, it will be decades before we see "Ember Tegadalay part 2". Let's remember all this took just 17 days. Even by then or now, the adjacent neighbouring people are politically conscious unlike the 1970s in which they will react quickly.
Jimmy
The psychological blow is too sever, it will be decades before we see "Ember Tegadalay part 2". Let's remember all this took just 17 days. Even by then or now, the adjacent neighbouring people are politically conscious unlike the 1970s in which they will react quickly.
Jimmy
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
1)There is NO abiy. He was a willing participant to events until now, he will be a hijacked participant to events going forward. The amhara facists are growing too much even for his feeble taste.
2)There is no intent nor the means to govern Tigray. As in the past, tigray will suffer neglect.
2)There is no intent nor the means to govern Tigray. As in the past, tigray will suffer neglect.
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
Giving chance to those who didn't get the chance to vote
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
Edina,
I am feeling sorry for you so I will give you my two cents. What happens in the reduced Tigray (minus welkait, raya and Badme) depends on what Tigrayans decide. If they accept reality and become good Ethiopians, then they can recover somethings and survive. If not, well, there is a concept of controlled choas. Tigray will be lawless but it will be controlled lawlessness, that is, it will be confined to Tigray. Any attempt to spread that chaos will be met with very harsh retaliation until the Agame balloon totally deflates.
I am feeling sorry for you so I will give you my two cents. What happens in the reduced Tigray (minus welkait, raya and Badme) depends on what Tigrayans decide. If they accept reality and become good Ethiopians, then they can recover somethings and survive. If not, well, there is a concept of controlled choas. Tigray will be lawless but it will be controlled lawlessness, that is, it will be confined to Tigray. Any attempt to spread that chaos will be met with very harsh retaliation until the Agame balloon totally deflates.
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
Eden, your question implies — at least to me — Tigreans as the whole share the TPLF political doctrine. Arresting the leaders will not change the political calculus. Tarik might agree with that assertion, but not me.
When the TPLF is gone, the we versus them politics of TPLFvwill go away as well.
The responsible question to ask is ; does the TPLF politics outlive the old founders ?
Eden do not count on it.
As a reminder the Ayatollah you used to lecture us as a God send to the Oromos is only prisoner number ,..
Oromia has survived the Ayatollah arrest, so do Tigreans of the Adwa gang lock up.
When the TPLF is gone, the we versus them politics of TPLFvwill go away as well.
The responsible question to ask is ; does the TPLF politics outlive the old founders ?
Eden do not count on it.
As a reminder the Ayatollah you used to lecture us as a God send to the Oromos is only prisoner number ,..
Oromia has survived the Ayatollah arrest, so do Tigreans of the Adwa gang lock up.
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
Dear Eden: What kind of war are you talking about?
Are you talking about (because even democratic competitions for power are sometimes described as wars without guns):
1. the Federation' s "war" of law enforcement against the emotional insurrection of the TPLF leaders ("the junta")?
That "war" has already ended, while the law enforcement part of the action---which may/may not involve armed conflict---shall continue as long as the Federation/State (and its laws) exists and as long as such an action is necessary.
2. a civil war within Tigraiy?
Any (major/significant) armed conflict among citizens of the same State/country/nation, by definition, is a civil war. No one can be certain of what the future holds, but a Tigraiyan who is following the recent developments in Tigraiy thinks that the likelihood of TPLF, as an organization, continuing a civil war (in the form of a guerrilla war that addresses the people' s interests that it has largely forgotten between 1990 and 2020) has diminished tremendously. Lack of popular support to TPLF leaders ended their insurrection war in a very short time, and the same factor remains to be TPLF' s problem in undertaking any type of war under its leadership in Tigraiy. The new temporary administration in Tigraiy is emphasizing self-rule of communities (and if national elections are going to be held as announced to uphold self-rule on the basis of republican democracy), then, the people of Tigraiy would have no reason to think of to support their former dictators.
The people of Tigraiy don't seem to be interested in
(a) the so-called "revolutionary democracy" propagated by the MLLT/TPLF,
(b) secession of Tigraiy from Etiyopiya,
(c) authorities appointed by self-serving rulers and not elected by adult citizens, and
(d) fighting against their own Federal armed forces, or their neighbors.
Given these situations, TPLF shall likely die a natural death of an organization that came to power but switched or failed to fulfill its declared purposes.
I invite you to watch the following video in its entirety, and translate it into other languages. It is an interesting piece.
Are you talking about (because even democratic competitions for power are sometimes described as wars without guns):
1. the Federation' s "war" of law enforcement against the emotional insurrection of the TPLF leaders ("the junta")?
That "war" has already ended, while the law enforcement part of the action---which may/may not involve armed conflict---shall continue as long as the Federation/State (and its laws) exists and as long as such an action is necessary.
2. a civil war within Tigraiy?
Any (major/significant) armed conflict among citizens of the same State/country/nation, by definition, is a civil war. No one can be certain of what the future holds, but a Tigraiyan who is following the recent developments in Tigraiy thinks that the likelihood of TPLF, as an organization, continuing a civil war (in the form of a guerrilla war that addresses the people' s interests that it has largely forgotten between 1990 and 2020) has diminished tremendously. Lack of popular support to TPLF leaders ended their insurrection war in a very short time, and the same factor remains to be TPLF' s problem in undertaking any type of war under its leadership in Tigraiy. The new temporary administration in Tigraiy is emphasizing self-rule of communities (and if national elections are going to be held as announced to uphold self-rule on the basis of republican democracy), then, the people of Tigraiy would have no reason to think of to support their former dictators.
The people of Tigraiy don't seem to be interested in
(a) the so-called "revolutionary democracy" propagated by the MLLT/TPLF,
(b) secession of Tigraiy from Etiyopiya,
(c) authorities appointed by self-serving rulers and not elected by adult citizens, and
(d) fighting against their own Federal armed forces, or their neighbors.
Given these situations, TPLF shall likely die a natural death of an organization that came to power but switched or failed to fulfill its declared purposes.
I invite you to watch the following video in its entirety, and translate it into other languages. It is an interesting piece.
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
YAY
Thank you for your time. I'm putting your suggested video on my watch list for the week. Hopefully, it's worth watching
Thank you for your time. I'm putting your suggested video on my watch list for the week. Hopefully, it's worth watching
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
ሃያ ሰባት አመት ሙሉ ለታላቋ ትግራይ ህልሙ በግንባር ቀደምትነት በኢንተርኔት ሲታገልና ሲዋደቅ የኖረው ወያኔው ዎንድሜ eden ዛሬ ሁሉን ነገር አጥቶ አንገት ደፍቶ ባዶ እጁ ሲቀር አያሳዝናችሁም?
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Re: Will the capture of (most or many) TPLF top leaders end the war and make Tigray become governable to PM Abiy?
This silly dude incessantly lies that kerenite is eden. LolFiyameta wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 09:30Junta eden/kerenite/sarcasm,
I think it is time for you to look for another job, because apparently your Junta is as dead as a door nail. Your EFFORTS (pun intended) to prolong your anti Eritrea and anti Ethiopia propaganda work by soliciting funds from the hapless Tegaru Diaspora communities by providing them with false hope and incorrect information has come to a dead end. When you laid off Awash after serving your junta for over 10 years on this forum, you should have known that your turn to become an unemployed junta would also come soon. I know lying is in your Junta's culture, but lying doesn't pay anymore. I suggest your get an honest job driving an Uber and share your the story of your miserable life with your passengers to solicit tips.
Man!!!
Eden is a proud tigryan. He/she is proud of being tigrian and I believe so.