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ህንድ በሙሉ አንግሊዝኛ ስለሚናገር አንግሊዝ ነው ማለት ኣይቻልም ጋሊኛም አንዲሁ

Post by Lakeshore » 29 Dec 2020, 10:54

I have seen in many social media some Galla who claimed to be a priest because of the white ribbon on their neck make a false story about Ethiopia and they speak with contempt and hate but Abuno Petros at his tender age was speaking with grace, determination and command because he grows up and thought by Amhara priest and nurtured by Amhara society and he is Amhara just to put the fact straight.

Calling someone megarsa, debasa, gelasa, lelisa, and whatever you think fit doesn't serve as a tag to be Galla. There are many Amhara in Amara-sient, Welega Raya who can't speak Amharic but it doesn't mean they are not Amhara unless they say so.

We have to ask the reason why these Galla cadres came as a priest we can see two reasons.

The first one, they do know Ethiopians especially Amhara are God-fearing true Christians who practice and live by the word in the bible. we can witness these during the war with TPLFjunta after all of the massacres the Tree junta committed whenever they were captured the Amhara people feed them and treat them with dignity as the book says.

ጠላጥክን አንደራስህ ውደድ በቀል የኔ ነውና

The second reason is that if we came as a priest we can roam the country under the cover of religion and collect money from the Christian peoples and distort history.

However, they fail very badly. In their fake history if you heard them carefully it is not chronologically ordered. In history, date, time, location, and archeological artifacts key factors in authenticating the truthfulness of history without that it is a fairy tale. In all these gall cadres and priests and so-called educated none of their story has one of the conditions therefore it is a fairy tale.

Sometimes, they bring a colonizer's book as evidence even that they do not know the exact time just because it is written by a foreigner not only by any foreigners but their foreigner that is close to their narrative they want to take is as a fact no that is not acceptable. If the premises is worn the conclusion would definitely be wrong. For example, Lema megersa went to Europe to get acceptance on his fake story of the Arussi Galla story. Why does he need the approval of the European? the region after some time they are going to quote his distorted story as evidence.


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These Galla cadres also try to claim everyone who speaks Galligna and have a Galla sound name to be Galla. That is wrong. for Example Indians' national language is English and that doesn't make them British. Or in Minnesota, there are many opportunists Gallas it doesn't mean Minnesota is Galla region. It is the same in Ethiopia, because the people of Ethiopia didn't go to war to fight it doesn't mean you can tell them they are Galla. Actually, they are ashamed to be uncivilized, unsophisticated, and brute Gall. They would rather die as proud Ethiopians especially Amhara.

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Post by EPRDF » 29 Dec 2020, 12:48

Example Indians' national language is English and that doesn't make them British.
ህንድ በሙሉ አንግሊዝኛ ስለሚናገር አንግሊዝ ነው ማለት ኣይቻልም ጋሊኛም አንዲሁ
English is not a national Language in India, they use English as a second official language. Few elites and urban middle-class citizens are English speakers. The vast majority of them do not even pronounce a word of English.

There is no language adopted as a national language in India, but they have 25 constitutionally recognized working languages.

Hindu is a widely spoken language and serves as lingua franca and even that is spoken only by less than forty percent of India's population. In India, no single language is compulsory or imposed on citizens to speak.

India treats all her native languages equally, and 25 of India's languages are serving as a working language in its respective state/region so please don't try using India for comparison with Ethiopia the country that had a history of contempt for all native languages of Ethiopia other than Amharic.

but Abuno Petros at his tender age was speaking with grace, determination and command because he grows up and thought by Amhara priest and nurtured by Amhara society and he is Amhara just to put the fact straight.
If that is the case then why we are always being told that Habtegiorgis Dengude, Gobena Dache, Emperor Haile himself and many other Gobenas who served in the Dergue and the imperial regimes were Oromos.

This fact which you are trying to tell us that applied to Abune Petros doesn't apply to the rest of these profiles I mentioned?

The reason why I am saying this because usually, we are hearing that
ጄነራል እከሌ እከሌ እከሌ እከሌና እከሌ ኦሮሞች ነበሩ፣ ንጉስም ኦሮም ነበሩ፣ እነ ፊታውራሪ እከሌም ኦሮሞ ነበሩ እየተባለ ሁሌ ስለሚለፈፍ ነው።

At last, this deep hatred towards Oromo will take that country nowhere but pushing Oromos to an unwanted end.

Don't forget it was such a bad-mouthing calling Eritreans i.e Tegenxay, Dildiy Afrash Binbe and so on is that erected the state of Eritrea on the landlocked dead body of Ethiopia.
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Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 12:51

You idiot emperor Haile selassie ain’t no Kenyan Galla he’s Shewa Amhara 60% Welo Amhara 25% and Tembien 15%. Abune Petros wasn’t Oromo he’s from Amhara region from a town Fiche right next to Debrelebanos Monastery in Shewa Amhara he is dark like menelik but culturally is Amhara.

Any insults towards Oromos today means nothing the OLF have been insulting and killing Amharas since 1990s we don’t even like to use the word Gallas but the Oromo extremists forced us to because they insult us as neftegna non stop

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Post by EPRDF » 29 Dec 2020, 12:59

Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 12:51
You idiot emperor Haile selassie ain’t no Kenyan Galla he’s Shewa Amhara 60% Welo Amhara 25% and Tembien 15%. Abune Petros wasn’t Oromo he’s from Amhara region from a town Fiche right next to Debrelebanos Monastery in Shewa Amhara he is dark like menelik but culturally is Amhara.
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Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 13:03

EPRDF that is false history created Tesfaye Gebreab who told you a Eritrean Terrorist kkkk his dad name is Mekonnen Wolde Mikael Yemane Melekot a member of Menz Royals Menz Shewa is known as Ye Amara Minch and is the shewan side of Bete Amhara where many kings ruled like Yekuno Amlak etc
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Post by EPRDF » 29 Dec 2020, 13:10

Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 13:03
EPRDF that is false history created Tesfaye Gebreab who told you a Eritrean Terrorist kkkk his dad name is Mekonnen Wolde Mikael Yemane
Well Wendime Nobel, Most of you kin might disagree with your statement. Lately they were claiming he was Oromo and I was arguing he was Amhara but nobody accepted that. I think you and me in agreement we don't have to fight on this. Let me hear from others what are they going to say, aight?


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Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 13:14

The only people who lie saying Haile selassie dad is Oromo are probably those stupid Unitarianists who want to sel Amhara history to Gallas to make them think abysinnia I’m sure Tesfaye Gebreab added Gudsissa to his name

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Post by EPRDF » 29 Dec 2020, 13:36

Do you remember ShaleQa Admase? He was a parliamentarian during Janhoy era later he was a member of woyane assembly for ratifying the current constitution. In one of the sessions during the hege mengest arqaqi gubae, Shaleqa publicly announced that the emperor is an Oromo and his granpa is Gudissa. Shaleqa was a die hard Amhara well you know...


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Post by EPRDF » 29 Dec 2020, 13:52

Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 13:41
Nice fairytale
Well whether it is fairytale or fact you Amharas need to sort out your differences and you need to come up with something convincing. The fairy tale thing honestly speaking, we got used to it any way we have been fed the fairytale for over a century now. It is OK!

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Post by Lakeshore » 29 Dec 2020, 17:58

As I said before if someone wants to go to war because of feeling insulted that means he was looking for an excuse from the very beginning but he couldn't do it because of his weakness. Galla is weak and can't dare to go to war with Amhara. Especially OLF. OFECO, OPDO all are trying to stay in power by killing and abusing civilians they never and ever faced an army.

Do you remember TPLF heard more than 20000 OLF fighters with their full gear like cattle to Dedesa and Tolay mass detention center without any skirmish? Even now Shimeles Abdisa and Lencho graduated more than 30 000 useless lumpen Galla as a special force. I can't wait to see Galla's facing the brave Fano let alone ENDF. I believe 100 Fano is enough to herd the Galla cattle into their stables.

So do not expect any appeasement from Ethiopians especially from Amhara it is democracy or war that is the only choice Gala has. Galla can not and will not be another junta in Ethiopia. Like the TPLF junta if you keep pushing every peace process and keep killing innocent farmers and civilians then eventually you will face Fano and ENDF.

About Indian, you can also consider Kenyans even the point is language is not a determining factor about someone's identity most Kenyans speak English but they are not British actually the same analysis will apply to Galla. There are many actually most of them who are in PP party speak Amharic first Galigna second so Amhara can claim these useless people to be Amhara but we respect their choice and they claimed to be Galla and let them be.

So it is the person who should choose where he wants to belong. As a result, all of your argument above is irrelevant because all the people that you listed above Habtegiorgis Dengude, Gobena Dache, Emperor Haile himself, and many other Gobenas who served in the Dergue and the imperial regimes were Oromos but they choose to be under Amhara administration even most of them changed their name like Shimeles Abdias, Lema, Bekele Geriba, Taye, Tamirat and so on. I agree that as the name only can't make you Amhara it also can't make you Galla so do not bring name as identity.

There is a practical example that happened in the Galla region. If you remember there was an interview with two white American girls Abducted from the car when their families were visiting the Galla region about 4 or 5 decades ago. Those two kids now are mothers and grandmothers. They do not speak a single English only Galigna. One of the girls married three-time because she keeps getting kidnap from her home or outside by other Gallas.
Their interview was on Ethiopian radio about 10 years ago but I will promise I will bring it and share it. Their mother believed to be dead from broken hurt this what imposed identity means. people have to have their choice of what to be. Even many Gallas enjoy this same right when they go and become a citizen of America or England. They are not American by birth but they choose to be and exercise their democratic right. However, here in Ethiopia Galla want to deny people's right to choose their identity it is not ironic, think about it.

The ultimate decision is made by the individual itself and individual rights the pillar of democracy.
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Lakeshore wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 10:54
I have seen in many social media some Galla who claimed to be a priest because of the white ribbon on their neck make a false story about Ethiopia and they speak with contempt and hate but Abuno Petros at his tender age was speaking with grace, determination and command because he grows up and thought by Amhara priest and nurtured by Amhara society and he is Amhara just to put the fact straight.

Calling someone megarsa, debasa, gelasa, lelisa, and whatever you think fit doesn't serve as a tag to be Galla. There are many Amhara in Amara-sient, Welega Raya who can't speak Amharic but it doesn't mean they are not Amhara unless they say so.

We have to ask the reason why these Galla cadres came as a priest we can see two reasons.

The first one, they do know Ethiopians especially Amhara are God-fearing true Christians who practice and live by the word in the bible. we can witness these during the war with TPLFjunta after all of the massacres the Tree junta committed whenever they were captured the Amhara people feed them and treat them with dignity as the book says.

ጠላጥክን አንደራስህ ውደድ በቀል የኔ ነውና

The second reason is that if we came as a priest we can roam the country under the cover of religion and collect money from the Christian peoples and distort history.

However, they fail very badly. In their fake history if you heard them carefully it is not chronologically ordered. In history, date, time, location, and archeological artifacts key factors in authenticating the truthfulness of history without that it is a fairy tale. In all these gall cadres and priests and so-called educated none of their story has one of the conditions therefore it is a fairy tale.

Sometimes, they bring a colonizer's book as evidence even that they do not know the exact time just because it is written by a foreigner not only by any foreigners but their foreigner that is close to their narrative they want to take is as a fact no that is not acceptable. If the premises is worn the conclusion would definitely be wrong. For example, Lema megersa went to Europe to get acceptance on his fake story of the Arussi Galla story. Why does he need the approval of the European? the region after some time they are going to quote his distorted story as evidence.


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These Galla cadres also try to claim everyone who speaks Galligna and have a Galla sound name to be Galla. That is wrong. for Example Indians' national language is English and that doesn't make them British. Or in Minnesota, there are many opportunists Gallas it doesn't mean Minnesota is Galla region. It is the same in Ethiopia, because the people of Ethiopia didn't go to war to fight it doesn't mean you can tell them they are Galla. Actually, they are ashamed to be uncivilized, unsophisticated, and brute Gall. They would rather die as proud Ethiopians especially Amhara.
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Post by Lakeshore » 29 Dec 2020, 20:36

As I said before if someone wants to go to war because of feeling insulted that means he was looking for an excuse from the very beginning but he couldn't do it because of his weakness. Galla is weak and can't dare to go to war with Amhara. Especially OLF. OFECO, OPDO all are trying to stay in power by killing and abusing civilians they never and ever faced an army.

Do you remember TPLF heard more than 20000 OLF fighters with their full gear like cattle to Dedesa and Tolay mass detention center without any skirmish? Even now Shimeles Abdisa and Lencho graduated more than 30 000 useless lumpen Galla as a special force. I can't wait to see Galla's facing the brave Fano let alone ENDF. I believe 100 Fano is enough to herd the Galla cattle into their stables.

So do not expect any appeasement from Ethiopians especially from Amhara it is democracy or war that is the only choice Gala has. Galla can not and will not be another junta in Ethiopia. Like the TPLF junta if you keep pushing every peace process and keep killing innocent farmers and civilians then eventually you will face Fano and ENDF.

About Indian, you can also consider Kenyans even the point is language is not a determining factor about someone's identity most Kenyans speak English but they are not British actually the same analysis will apply to Galla. There are many actually most of them who are in PP party speak Amharic first Galigna second so Amhara can claim these useless people to be Amhara but we respect their choice and they claimed to be Galla and let them be.

So it is the person who should choose where he wants to belong. As a result, all of your argument above is irrelevant because all the people that you listed above Habtegiorgis Dengude, Gobena Dache, Emperor Haile himself, and many other Gobenas who served in the Dergue and the imperial regimes were Oromos but they choose to be under Amhara administration even most of them changed their name like Shimeles Abdias, Lema, Bekele Geriba, Taye, Tamirat and so on. I agree that as the name only can't make you Amhara it also can't make you Galla so do not bring name as identity.

There is a practical example that happened in the Galla region. If you remember there was an interview with two white American girls Abducted from the car when their families were visiting the Galla region about 4 or 5 decades ago. Those two kids now are mothers and grandmothers. They do not speak a single English only Galigna. One of the girls married three-time because she keeps getting kidnap from her home or outside by other Gallas.
Their interview was on Ethiopian radio about 10 years ago but I will promise I will bring it and share it. Their mother believed to be dead from broken hurt this what imposed identity means. people have to have their choice of what to be. Even many Gallas enjoy this same right when they go and become a citizen of America or England. They are not American by birth but they choose to be and exercise their democratic right. However, here in Ethiopia Galla want to deny people's right to choose their identity it is not ironic, think about it.

The ultimate decision is made by the individual itself and individual rights the pillar of democracy.

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