Mereja Forum

[Horus]

እኔ ሆረስ ላለፈው 30 አመት ስለው የነበረውን እጅግ ቀላልና ሳይንሳዊ ሃቅ ብልሁ የሩዋንዳ ፕሬዚዳንት ጳውሎስ ካጋሜ ደገመው !!

እሱም የኢትዮጵያ መሪዎች የጎሳ ፖለቲካን ሕገ ወጥ ካላደረጉ ኢትዮጵያ አትቀጥልም አለ !! የምጨምረው የለኝም !

ያበሻ መሪ ተብዬዎች ሁሉ ማፈር አለባችሁ !!!

ሆረስ አይነ ኩሉ



ለምሳሌ

ዛሬ በሻንቅላ የተደረገውን ጭፍጨፋ ምን ይሉታል?

የደቡብ ክልል ተብዬ የጎሳ ጥርቃሞ ውስጥ ብቻ
711 ከስልጣን ተነሱ
918 መሪዎች ከቦታ ቦታ ተለወጡ
1966 ማስጠንቀቂያ ተሰጣቸው

[Roha]

Horus,
Paul Kagame has no tolerance for tribalism. See how he changed the war devastated Ruwanda.
The former Ethiopian leaders, the Woyanies, were told early while they were drafting the constitution. Issaias had seen the early draft, and he told them, "this will be a disaster ...". But the Woyanies rejected his advice.
Check out his last long interview, he told the current Ethiopian leaders to discard ethnic politics.

[kibramlak]

@Horus, @Roha,

This is a common sense. But the problem is, ethnic politics became a short cut lucrative business industry for dull minded people. Where is the outrage of the Abiy "admin"?? He is packed and surrounded with tribalists who do not want to see their lucrative business vanish.

Also mind that Ethiopia is under foreign conspiracy. How one can explain the very recent reaction of EU against Ethiopia, without mentioning the mentally ill Trump admin ? Its very clear that there are many countries, especially the West, who see a stable and developed Ethiopia as a threat. As Tamirat Nebera said it, almost all of the officials and cadres of oromia are anti-Ethiopian as are tplf officials and cadres. These are the ones who conspire with foreign countries to Weaken Ethiopia.

I can't still figure out on what logics Abiy want an election in the face of Ethnic strife. Unless he is a part of the conspiracy to ensure orommuma aka galluma ?? The country must have a constitutional shape first that bans anything ethnic before thinking a democratic election.

[Dawi]

Game Over for Ethnic Federalism: Isaias Afwerki

by Getachew Gebrekiros Temare | www.ethiopia-insight.com | February 12, 2020



On February 7, Eritrean state television broadcast a Tigrinya interview of more than two hours with Eritrean President Isaias Afewerki where he criticized at length Ethiopia’s multinational constitutional order and the “narrow clique” that promoted it. Below are translated excerpts.

The reason why this area is immersed in unceasing conflict is because of the direct interference of external forces. The enduring bloodshed in parts of the Horn of Africa is the upshot of substantial impact of these hostile powers.After the completion of the Cold War, we had not carefully understood the dramatic repercussions of the war. The dangerous after-effects of the war have caused internal threats in Ethiopia. The present-day ethnic federalism was not single-handedly promoted by the narrow clique. External powers have played their fair share in establishing such a system for their benefit when Ethiopia became free from the military regime in 1991.

Within Ethiopia, the advantage of ethnic federalism is not vitally essential for all Ethiopians other than for some narrow cliques. That was why the regime of narrow cliques of Ethiopia lacks considerable recognition from its inception. If we delve into the causes of the imminent underlying current unrest in Ethiopia, the leading root of this strife is ethnic federalism, though the narrow clique has named ethnic federalism saying ‘right to self-administration, secession, blah-blah’.

Ethnic-centered administration has severely damaged Ethiopia. The system has empowered deliberate ethnic schisms among the peoples of Ethiopia. It is impossible to have an appropriate process of nation-building once you have institutionalized ethnic schism on the authority of pretentious federalism. Taking everything into account, the system of ethnic federalism applied in Ethiopia for the past 20 years and more by the narrow clique is bankrupted now. In our language it is called ‘game over’. And Ethiopians have said ‘enough’.

Badme and its surroundings are still occupied by Ethiopia


Following the uncompromising opposition, Abiy has taken an outstanding and brave decision of embracing a new multi-faceted political reform in Ethiopia. He managed to reform the previous state of play which Ethiopia had faced for years.

It was not unforeseen for us. The narrow clique has worked to create inherent animosity between the peoples of Eritrea and Ethiopia. Surprisingly, the narrow clique that caused enormous harm to the peoples of Ethio-Eritrea has not the sanity of Ethiopianism, despite the fact that it caused irreparable damage on behalf of Ethiopians to the people of Eritrea. Have you examined this scenario thoughtfully?

The politics, approach, and objectives of this narrow clique are disastrous.


And now, disgracefully, this narrow clique is saying that if Abiy’s rapprochement between Eritrea and Ethiopia is rewarding, where is the peace on the ground?

Even though we have made a rapprochement, Badme and its surroundings are still occupied by Ethiopia. This is happening because the narrow clique, which administers the region, is impeding execution of the decision of the border commission as a tactic for its survival.

The situation in Badme is becoming worse and worse ever more. Do you understand why we choose to be tolerant? It is because the narrow clique is exploiting the enduring political unrest in the country. Who is assigning land in Badme presently? Why are many houses erecting in Badme? What are the valid laws to distribute the land in Badme, while they are calling for reconciliation with Eritrea?

So, all these disruptive actions of the narrow clique are anti-peace and reconciliation. The narrow clique is taking advantage of the current precarious situation in Ethiopia, the mess of ethnic federalism. This is happening because the narrow clique, along with its bankrupt politics of ethnic federalism, is working against the reform. Consequently, this narrow clique has galvanized extreme confrontation against the uncompleted reform in all directions against Abiy Ahmed.

All in all, the narrow clique is applying full force to invalidate the endeavors of the rapprochement and it has intended essentially to overturn the overall achievements of the ongoing reform in Ethiopia.

With regards to Eritrea, the narrow clique is ploughing a siege mentality in the people, saying you have been encircled in all corners.


As it is remembered, they devised the policy of immigration to weaken Eritrea. There are different sorts of challenges in Ethiopia. For that reason, this narrow clique is carrying out all sorts of tussles with the purpose of hampering healthy relationship between both nations.

That is not scary though. What matters most is the internal conditions of Ethiopia.

Abiy has taken the courageous decision of introducing reform. But, what is he going to do in the end? Once Abiy has achieved his initial objective, we don’t believe everything is solved until we see the last results. We are not saying this because we are extremely genius or anything else. However, our historic experience tells us so.

When you say, ‘I am federalist’, what is federalism?

How are we going to achieve lasting results? How are we going to bring sustainable peace and cooperation? Peace comes through real work. Peace prevails through genuine solidarity. This is not the issue of border conflict. That is not our challenge. There are other external powers who are jointly working with the narrow clique of Ethiopia to hurt Eritrea. If we fail to frame a strong foundation for the enduring reform in Ethiopia, we can be victims of political turmoil stemming from Ethiopia. We don’t want to fully interfere in deciphering the poisons of ethnic federalism. That is their internal issue. However, we won’t be silent until it victimizes Eritrea and that is why we are working together with Abiy Ahmed.

We need not say everything is going to be solved in view of the present reform as we would be politically naïve and gullible. We know that apart from the conflict-ridden interest of the internal narrow cliques, external forces are working hard to disrupt the situation. We will seriously scrutinize their engagements. All these forces are partaking in the internal affairs of Ethiopia. Nonetheless, the most dangerous political threat is the precarious internal unsteadiness of Ethiopia. It is easy to spread hatred. But it is difficult to bring peace by neutralizing hatred.

Ethnic polarization has reached in its peak. It won’t be easily cured by means of a single remedy. We need not to discern it as an ordinary conflict. New scenarios are emerging every time. These ultimatums are altering their characteristics constantly.

Yet, our cooperation and solidarity won’t be troubled, rather it is increasingly hardening. We may encounter some daunting actions; yet we won’t change our relationship with Ethiopia.

One of the contested matters in Ethiopia presently is the issue of election. This is according to the traditional culture of politics. This is not a worthy issue by itself. It will hinder the attention of the government on the other important issues of the country, if the disagreement on matters of election becomes more to the fore. There are many actors in this election. If we need genuine political transformation, we should consider the issues properly. There are experienced international institutions knowledgeable in research. These institutions are analyzing the situation poorly, exploiting the situation.

We can defend ourselves for any potential conflict coming out from Ethiopia. However, Ethiopia is a big nation. It has its own significant role in our region.

All internal political powers are propagating very shallow judgements. When you say, ‘I am federalist’, what is federalism? When you say ‘I am unionist’, what is unionist? I am highlighting the difficulties of the situation. We can alleviate the bad consequences of ethnic federalism if we study the problem properly.

Dear President, after the new leadership came to power in Ethiopia, it appears the former political structure is fundamentally reforming. Taking into consideration all these emerging scenarios, along with the signed rapprochement, what are their influence on Eritrea and our region according to your perspective?

In our history, the nation causing the main threat for Eritrea is Ethiopia. We have direct interests Ethiopia. We are not saying we will interfere in the internal affairs of Ethiopia. That is not the point. However, the condition of Ethiopia is directly of concern to us. We forecasted the existing scenario of Ethiopia.

I was invited to participate in the conference of 1992 where the current system of ethnic federalism was considered to be implemented. The present-day enduring strife among tribes of Ethiopia was embedded back in that time. It has institutionally evolved for almost 30 years.

We have advised the narrow cliques, forecasting this sort of ethnic polarization. I have had the chance to look at the system of ethnic federalism before anyone was allowed to study it. I have read it twice and I was asked to give my recommendations. For the sake of secession, you should not make the society into an ethnically polarized community. I warned them not to implement such a system.

We haven’t any border problem. We don’t demarcate the borders. We have already inherited the demarcated borders. There were external forces who have encouraged the narrow clique to divide and rule Ethiopia through ethnic federalism. The people of Ethiopia were not part of the war against us. It was the interest of the narrow clique. This narrow ethnic polarization has only one way in the end. That end is devastation.

There are many elites who define this scenario, saying it is the rights of nations, nationalities and peoples. And then these elites deceive the people for their political benefit. As I have said in 1994, how are you going to accommodate the challenges of the current ethnic federalism? It is not possible to continue while you are creating a rift in communities. You cannot even walk through all these narrow positions.

We can look at situations of Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, and others. These nations are living through ethnic polarization. Where are they right now? All are engulfed in civil war. Ethiopia is not different from any nation of the world. That excuse of ‘we are the country of nation nationalities and peoples’ won’t work at all.

We are advising Ethiopians to follow the best path for nation building. This is not because we fear any force coming out from Ethiopia. We can defend ourselves efficiently. I don’t want to suggest this way or that way. The people should select the right way. The people are the last victims. The key problematic force inside Ethiopia presently is the clique of ethnic politics.

Dear President, how do you analyze the role of the people in protecting Eritrea within these three generations and what will be its impacts in the future?


Pertaining to struggle of people of Eritrea, I am always amazed by the firm doggedness of the people although I am part of the struggle for decades. I sometime even ask myself will other people be able to carry such a burden and ultimately triumph.

The forte of our people is to triumph due to its unrelenting struggle. After the Second World War, Eritrea was considered as a main target. To control Eritrea, the powers devised to divide and rule the people of Eritrea. The people have crossed that precarious time and then the civil war, the challenge, has helped our people to figure out the political dynamics. We have learned a lot of experience from our previous challenges.

If we compare with our surroundings, we are all equal people. But, we should ask why all these burdens and challenges against the people of Eritrea. However, the people have defeated all its challenges. This culture of gallantry should be preserved. This is the grace of our nation.

Source: https://www.ethiopia-insight.com/2020/0 ... sm-isaias/

[DefendTheTruth]

Those who have not yet officially distanced themselves from the political stand of the likes of Eskinder Nega anc Co. can dream of dissolving the current Ethnich-Federalism in the country but it remains a pipe dream for a while.

Facts must be told:

- Oromo as a group (they call it group rights) was marginalized, undeservedly, and fought to regain those lost rights and now no kind of maneuvering will undo those gains. Oromo and other similarly marginalized people of Ethiopia will fight in unison to protect those rights and they can do it.

The other camp is not yet ready to acknowledge those genuine rights of the largest chunk of the country, let alone to put forward any alternative mechanism to protect those rights while permanently calling for the dissolution of the ethnic federalism.

Ethnic Federalism was introduced to address those clear problems in the country, now they want to undo the Ethnic Federalism part without saying a word about how to solve the problem that necessitated its introduction.

Ethiopia is said to be under democratic rule and in democracy those with more votes also decide the policy under which the country's affairs will be administered. If they claim to undo the Oromo votes, are they also prepared to undo the democratic rule in the country?

- The claim that they were targeted by ethnically motivated violence and at the same time we don't see them losing a word about the call to ethnically motivated violence against those whom they now complain to have been attacked by. Instead, they clapped their hands from End to End when the likes of the late Asminaw Tsige was openly and publicly telling them Amhara will take the fight to their own Kilils, mentioning the Benishangul Gumuz specifically and implying Oromia region in unmistakable terms. If you call for it then you will get it back, so there is no need to whine about it now.

Moderate Oromo were targeted just because they wanted to serve the country in all of their capacity and in good will but were publicly condemned as extrimists and given all kinds of bad-mouthing and became the target of their curse, a recent case in point Engineer Takele Uma, former acting Mayor of Finfinne (Addis Ababa).


Ethnic Federalism was introduced to remove a number of political problems and it can't be dissolved without an alternative means of addressing those major problems, which could have even put the integrity of the nation itself at risk.

[Fiyameta]

The Ethnic federalism the junta introduced in Ethiopia in 1991 was the brainchild of Paul Henze, the former CIA agent whom the slave Meles Zenawi had secretly met in 1990 in New York to take his orders.

Black actor Denzel Washington defined ethnic federalism as a diabolical method to keep the slaves physically strong, but psychologically weak and dependent on their slave master. "Keep the body, take the mind!" To further illustrate this point, Denzel said "...Strip Ethiopia of her clothes (dignity) in front of other Africans, tie each of her legs to a horse facing an opposite direction, set her on fire, and beat both horses until they tear her apart." That is ethnic federalism, otherwise known as lynching.

[Ethoash]

መንጌ ፣ ሳዳም ሑሴን የኢራቁ ያደረገው ረግጦ በመግዛቱ ሁሉም ጎሳ ተከባብሮ ኖረ ግን ያ ረገጣ ሲቀር ነው ቦንቡ የሚፈነዳው ። ደደቦዎች በመሆናቹሁ ግን ካጋሜ ታመስግናላቹሁ ስራው ሳያልቅ። የሱ ስራ የሚታየው እሱ ከስልጣን ለቆ ሁሉም ጎሳዎች ተከባብረው የሚኖሩ ከሆነ ነው።

ሁለተኛ ደረጃ ደግሞ ኮጋሜ አንድ ሚልዬን ሕዝብ ይዞ የመቶ ሚሊዬን ሕዝብ እጣ ፋንታ ሊገመግም አይችልም ። ከዚህ ሁሉ ምርጫ አርገህ ስልጣን ልቀቅ በለው እሱም ብሎ ዲሞክራሲ። ሩዋንዳ አንድ ክብሪት ነው የምትፈልገው የተስራው በሙሉ ሊናድ። ይህ ነው የሆነው ኢትዬዽያ ውስጥ ። ትግሬዎች ለኦሮሞና ለሱማሌዎች ሙሉ መብት በስጡ ኖሮ ይህ ሁሉ ባኖረ ነበር ደግሞ በትግሬዎች እንዳትፈርድ ስልጣን እንዳይስጡ ለጋሎች ። ጋሎች ምን ግዜም ብቁ አነበሩም ስልጣን ሲስጣቸው ዘረፋ ነው የሚቀድማቸው ። አሁንም በትንሹ ማየት ይቻላል።

የፈደራል መንግስት ኢትዬዽያ አትፈልግም የሚሉ በሙሉ ነገር ፈላጉዎች ናቸው ። የፈድራል አገዛዝ የጎሳ አገዛዝ ነው ብለው የሚያሾፉ ዋ ብያለው ። አሁን የሚደረገው የጎሳ ጭፍጨፋ የፈድራልን መንግስት ጉዳይ አለመረዳት እንጂ የፈድራል መንግስት ለኢትዬዽያ ይቅር ለአሜሪካንም ስርቶዋል ። እንበል አንድ ጠቅልል አገዛዝ እናምጣ እንበል በምን ቋንቋ እንግባባለን በአማርኛ ። ኦሮምኛ ምን ልታረገው ነው። ወድ ክት አስገባው ልትል ነው ወይ ማን ይስማሀል።

የፈደራል አገዛዝ የጎሳ ጦርነት አስነሳ ለሚሉ ሁሉ። መልሴ የአማራ አገዛዝ ግዜ ሁሉም ነገር ወደ ጦር ግንባር ነበር ። ምድረ ተገንጣይ ጋር እንፋለም ነበር ለ፩፯ ዓመት እንዴት ይህ ተረስቶ ነው የፈደራል መንግስትን የጎሳ አለመግባባት ከአማራ ጦርነት ጋራ የሚፈረጀው።

የፈድራል የጎሳ ጥልን ብንመለከተው ስማኒያ በመቶው አማሮች ናቸው የሚያስነሱት ። ከአማራ ጋራ ነው ጠቡ ። ለምን አማሮች ወድ አማራ ክልላቸው እንደማሄዱ እና ስላም እንደማያወርዱ ግራ ነው የሚገባው ። ኦሮሞዎቹ ከሱማሌ ሲባረሩ ወሬ አላበዙም ሚሊዬኖች ኦሮሞዎች ነው ወድ ኦሮሞ ክልል የተመለሱት ። አማራ ግን ጝግም ብሎ ይከራከራል። በአዲስባባ ዙሪያ በፕላስቲክ ቤት ስርቶ ጅብ ልጁን እስከሚወስድበት ይጠብቃል ልክ አገሩ እንዳይመለስ አዲስ አበባ ላይ ይሞታል። ግን አልፈርድባቸውም አማሮች ቡዳ ናቸው የገዛ ወገኖቻቸውን አይቀበሉም

በኦሮሞ ክልል ውስጥ አስር ሚሊዬን አማራ አለ በጎንደር ግን አንድም ኦሮሞ የለም ወይም ትግሬ የለም ለምንድነው ብለን መጠየቅ አስፈራን መልሱ

[DefendTheTruth]

The Ethnic federalism the junta introduced in Ethiopia in 1991 was the brainchild of Paul Henze, the former CIA agent whom the slave Meles Zenawi had secretly met in 1990 in New York to take his orders.

Black actor Denzel Washington defined ethnic federalism as a diabolical method to keep the slaves physically strong, but psychologically weak and dependent on their slave master. "Keep the body, take the mind!" To further illustrate this point, Denzel said "...Strip Ethiopia of her clothes (dignity) in front of other Africans, tie each of her legs to a horse facing an opposite direction, set her on fire, and beat both horses until they tear her apart." That is ethnic federalism, otherwise known as lynching.

Let me ask you one question here, hoping you could answer it without much doubt on your part, since you seem to appear that you condemn ethnic federalism without any reservation and there is no problem from my side for your condemning it, we have no love affairs with ethnic federalism as far as we can find a replacement for the issues it was incepted to address from the beginning.

But like I said above Ethnic Federalism was introduced to the Ethiopian body politics to address one of the pertaining and sustaining problem of the country that people nowadays call group rights, which was completely ignored by the previous governments and their system of administration.

Now the question is, okay we demolish the Ethnic Federalism according to your (and the advice of the people you quoted) but then what about the problem(s) this arrangement tried to address? Just roll back it and leave it as it once was?

[Sabur]

Horus - The Old Dergue Apologist:

Yes, Ethnic Federalism destroyed Ethiopia for the benefit of the Few, but salivating about Eritrea and Eritrea's Ports and declaring war against Eritrea also destroyed Ethiopia further.

So get that OLD hidden dirt, evil, and envy mindset out of your brains.

Eritrea is first and foremost for Eritreans !!!

Accept this fact first for the Regional Economic Integration of Nations to bear fruit of Peace and Development.

እኔ ሆረስ ላለፈው 30 አመት ስለው የነበረውን እጅግ ቀላልና ሳይንሳዊ ሃቅ ብልሁ የሩዋንዳ ፕሬዚዳንት ጳውሎስ ካጋሜ ደገመው !!

እሱም የኢትዮጵያ መሪዎች የጎሳ ፖለቲካን ሕገ ወጥ ካላደረጉ ኢትዮጵያ አትቀጥልም አለ !! የምጨምረው የለኝም !

ያበሻ መሪ ተብዬዎች ሁሉ ማፈር አለባችሁ !!!

ሆረስ አይነ ኩሉ



ለምሳሌ

ዛሬ በሻንቅላ የተደረገውን ጭፍጨፋ ምን ይሉታል?

የደቡብ ክልል ተብዬ የጎሳ ጥርቃሞ ውስጥ ብቻ
711 ከስልጣን ተነሱ
918 መሪዎች ከቦታ ቦታ ተለወጡ
1966 ማስጠንቀቂያ ተሰጣቸው

[Fiyameta]

The Ethnic federalism the junta introduced in Ethiopia in 1991 was the brainchild of Paul Henze, the former CIA agent whom the slave Meles Zenawi had secretly met in 1990 in New York to take his orders.

Black actor Denzel Washington defined ethnic federalism as a diabolical method to keep the slaves physically strong, but psychologically weak and dependent on their slave master. "Keep the body, take the mind!" To further illustrate this point, Denzel said "...Strip Ethiopia of her clothes (dignity) in front of other Africans, tie each of her legs to a horse facing an opposite direction, set her on fire, and beat both horses until they tear her apart." That is ethnic federalism, otherwise known as lynching.

Let me ask you one question here, hoping you could answer it without much doubt on your part, since you seem to appear that you condemn ethnic federalism without any reservation and there is no problem from my side for your condemning it, we have no love affairs with ethnic federalism as far as we can find a replacement for the issues it was incepted to address from the beginning.

But like I said above Ethnic Federalism was introduced to the Ethiopian body politics to address one of the pertaining and sustaining problem of the country that people nowadays call group rights, which was completely ignored by the previous governments and their system of administration.

Now the question is, okay we demolish the Ethnic Federalism according to your (and the advice of the people you quoted) but then what about the problem(s) this arrangement tried to address? Just roll back it and leave it as it once was?

Nationality based on the principles of citizenship may be the best alternative to ethnic federalism in Ethiopia. It is common knowledge that people who are made to bring their ethnicity first owe no allegiance to the nation and have no sense of citizenship. The main reason the junta supporters in the Diaspora are now quick to denounce their Ethiopian identity is because they never secured a shared sense of citizenship with others, which they saw as a threat to their reign.

Through the junta's unrelenting propaganda of the last 27 years, the Ethiopian masses were also misled into viewing ethnic federalism as something that granted them the right to learn in their own languages, when in fact it was ethnic federalism that played a big role in severing their link with their own nation, further diminishing their allegiance to the nation while ignoring the values for citizenship.

The question is, why do Ethiopians need ethnic federalism to be able to learn in their own languages when other countries are doing it without? For example, under ethnic federalism, college graduates from the Somali region didn't have a competitive advantage in securing government jobs at the capital simply because they didn't learn the working language. But that is now changing. Recently, የሱማሌ ክልል ፕሬዝዳንት ሙስጠፋ ሙሐሙድ ዑመር said, "ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም፤ ሁሉም የሱማሌ ነዋሪ አማርኛ መቻል አለበት!"

When people start seeing Amharic as a working language, as opposed to the "official language" of the country, it will keep the line of communication open, which is vital for connecting citizens and uniting them around shared goals. I'm an Eritrean and my country does not have an official language. For instance, Arabic is taught in Eritrea to help us gain competitive advantage when conducting trade with our immediate neighbors like Sudan, and countries in the Middle East where Arabic is predominately spoken. We, too, can say ከአረብኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም!

The challenges which PM Abiy is now facing are, how to cultivate a sense of belonging among the Ethiopian masses which is essential for developing a nationality based on the principles of citizenship. He said the newly formed Ethiopian Defense Forces is made up of 80 different ethnic groups who speak different languages, but have one common goal, which is to defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Abolishing the diabolic ethnic federalism arrangement is the only way forward to heal the nation of its wounds and keep its sovereignty intact.

[DefendTheTruth]

The Ethnic federalism the junta introduced in Ethiopia in 1991 was the brainchild of Paul Henze, the former CIA agent whom the slave Meles Zenawi had secretly met in 1990 in New York to take his orders.

Black actor Denzel Washington defined ethnic federalism as a diabolical method to keep the slaves physically strong, but psychologically weak and dependent on their slave master. "Keep the body, take the mind!" To further illustrate this point, Denzel said "...Strip Ethiopia of her clothes (dignity) in front of other Africans, tie each of her legs to a horse facing an opposite direction, set her on fire, and beat both horses until they tear her apart." That is ethnic federalism, otherwise known as lynching.

Let me ask you one question here, hoping you could answer it without much doubt on your part, since you seem to appear that you condemn ethnic federalism without any reservation and there is no problem from my side for your condemning it, we have no love affairs with ethnic federalism as far as we can find a replacement for the issues it was incepted to address from the beginning.

But like I said above Ethnic Federalism was introduced to the Ethiopian body politics to address one of the pertaining and sustaining problem of the country that people nowadays call group rights, which was completely ignored by the previous governments and their system of administration.

Now the question is, okay we demolish the Ethnic Federalism according to your (and the advice of the people you quoted) but then what about the problem(s) this arrangement tried to address? Just roll back it and leave it as it once was?

Nationality based on the principles of citizenship may be the best alternative to ethnic federalism in Ethiopia. It is common knowledge that people who are made to bring their ethnicity first owe no allegiance to the nation and have no sense of citizenship. The main reason the junta supporters in the Diaspora are now quick to denounce their Ethiopian identity is because they never secured a shared sense of citizenship with others, which they saw as a threat to their reign.

Through the junta's unrelenting propaganda of the last 27 years, the Ethiopian masses were also misled into viewing ethnic federalism as something that granted them the right to learn in their own languages, when in fact it was ethnic federalism that played a big role in severing their link with their own nation, further diminishing their allegiance to the nation while ignoring the values for citizenship.

The question is, why do Ethiopians need ethnic federalism to be able to learn in their own languages when other countries are doing it without? For example, under ethnic federalism, college graduates from the Somali region didn't have a competitive advantage in securing government jobs at the capital simply because they didn't learn the working language. But that is now changing. Recently, የሱማሌ ክልል ፕሬዝዳንት ሙስጠፋ ሙሐሙድ ዑመር said, "ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም፤ ሁሉም የሱማሌ ነዋሪ አማርኛ መቻል አለበት!"

When people start seeing Amharic as a working language, as opposed to the "official language" of the country, it will keep the line of communication open, which is vital for connecting citizens and uniting them around shared goals. I'm an Eritrean and my country does not have an official language. For instance, Arabic is taught in Eritrea to help us gain competitive advantage when conducting trade with our immediate neighbors like Sudan, and countries in the Middle East where Arabic is predominately spoken. We, too, can say ከአረብኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም!

The challenges which PM Abiy is now facing are, how to cultivate a sense of belonging among the Ethiopian masses which is essential for developing a nationality based on the principles of citizenship. He said the newly formed Ethiopian Defense Forces is made up of 80 different ethnic groups who speak different languages, but have one common goal, which is to defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Abolishing the diabolic ethnic federalism arrangement is the only way forward to heal the nation of its wounds and keep its sovereignty intact.

Well,
you didn't address the central issue of "group-rights", which is not only about language, I guess, and I raised in my short reply to your post.

Taking even the language issue, the so called citizen-party (they are EZEMA in Ethiopia) didn't want to even include Afan Oromo or any other language of the country into its working language as a party and made it clear that its program is not oriented along the interest of the majority of the country. Are they going to tell us their program through a translator? In that case, then no, thanks, is our answer.

Like I said, we can drop the Ethnic Federalism at any time, as far as I am concerned, but we need an alternative solution to the problem(s) the Ethnic Federalism was conceived to address.

[Tiago]

We need ,if possible, a balanced approach since group right (self-determination) can easily go against respect for other human rights.The oromos want addis ababa exclusively for oromos over and above other ethnic groups.these very people
are responsible for mass displacement of communities courtesy of group-right. group -right kept slavery going in the southern states of USA because people in those states argued it is their group-right to own slaves until the government discarded their so-called group right.similarly,the Nazi party made it look the german public (group right) was behind their action in eliminating the Jews.
What we really need is RESPECT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS,CULTURAL RIGHTS AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.

[Horus]

እኔ ሆረስ ቃላት መፍለጥ አይመቸኝም። ደሞ በሰው ልጅ ባህሪ ሳይንስ ላይ ያልቆመ ሃሳብ ተሽክሜ የምዞርበት ትከሻ የለኝም። የፖለቲከኞችና የሕዝብ ጥቅም በተፈጥሮ አንድ አይደሉም ። አንድ የሚሆኑት ወይም ሁለቱ ጥቅሞች የሚቃረቡት በመሪነት ብቃት፣ ችሎታ፣ ኢንተለጀእንስ እና በራሱ በሕዝቡ ንቃት ዘ ተካፍሎ አማካይነት ነው። ይህ በሌለበት ዝቅተኛ አይምሮ ተሸካሚ መሪዎች እና ደንቆሮ ሕዝብ እነሱን በሚከተልበት አገር አሁን ያለው አፍሪካን ይመስላል።

የሁሉም ፖለቲከኛ ፍላጎት ስልጣን፣ ገንዘብ፣ ዝና እና ክብር ነው ።
የሁሉም ሕዝብ ፍላጎት አገር፣ ሰላም፣ ነጻነት፣ ብልጽኛ፣ ትምህርት ና በደስታ መኖር ነው።

አንድ ሕዝብ ለፖለቲከኞች ስልጣን፣ ገንዘብ፣ ዝናና ክበር የሚሰጠው አገር እንዲጠብቁለት፣ ሰላም እንዲያሰፍኑለት፣ ነጻነቱን እንዲያስከብሩለት፣ እድገቱን፣ ትሕርቱን፣ ጤነንቱን እና ደስታውን እንዲያስከብሩለት ነው።

ይህን የማያደርጉ ፖለቲከኞች ወንበዴ ሌቦች ወንጀለኞች ናቸው ። ዛሬ በኢትዮጵያ ያሉ ፖለቲከኞች ምናልባት 70% መወገድ ያለባቸው ወንጀለኞች ናቸው ።
የጎሳ ፖለተኞች 95% ሌቦች ናቸው ። የዜጋ ፖለቲከኞችም ቢሆኑ እጅግ ማጆሪቲው ደንቆሮ ብቻ ሳይሆኑ ፖለቲካ ምን ማለት እንደ ሆነ የማይገልጹ ናቸው ።

90 ጎሳዎች አሉ ይባላል። ሁሉም በድንቁርና የሚነዱ አሳዛኝ ሕዝብ ናቸው። ለዚህ ከዎያኔና የትግሬ ሕዝብ ሌላ የተሻለ ምሳሌ የለም ። ይህ ሕዝብ 50 አመት ከታመሰ በኋላ እስቲ በምን አይነት ድህነትና አሳፋሪ ድቀት ውስጥ እንደ ሚኖር ተመልከቱ ። በትህነግ አይነት የደንቆሮ ወንጀለኛ መሪነት የሚነዳ ሕዝብ የሚኖረው እንደ ትግሬ ሕዝብ ነው።

የዘር ፖለቲካ መብት ነው ብላችሁ የምታላዝኑ መሃይማን ደንቆሮች የማታፍሩ ዘራችሁ በምዕራብ የበሰበሰ ስንዴ እየኖረ ራሳችሁን እንደ ሰው የምትቆጥሩ አሳፋሪዎች ናችሁ ።

አበቃሁ፣ ሆረስ አይነ ኩሉ !

[Roha]

Horus, thank you for your brilliant insight.

እኔ ሆረስ ቃላት መፍለጥ አይመቸኝም። ደሞ በሰው ልጅ ባህሪ ሳይንስ ላይ ያልቆመ ሃሳብ ተሽክሜ የምዞርበት ትከሻ የለኝም። የፖለቲከኞችና የሕዝብ ጥቅም በተፈጥሮ አንድ አይደሉም ። አንድ የሚሆኑት ወይም ሁለቱ ጥቅሞች የሚቃረቡት በመሪነት ብቃት፣ ችሎታ፣ ኢንተለጀእንስ እና በራሱ በሕዝቡ ንቃት ዘ ተካፍሎ አማካይነት ነው። ይህ በሌለበት ዝቅተኛ አይምሮ ተሸካሚ መሪዎች እና ደንቆሮ ሕዝብ እነሱን በሚከተልበት አገር አሁን ያለው አፍሪካን ይመስላል።
------- ሆረስ አይነ ኩሉ !

[Aurorae Borealis]

Africa is the continent with the greatest need for federal systems and yet it is the place that is the fastest in dismantling its federations. The reason is simple. Federalism works only if the system is truly democratic and all contests are resolved through the process of constitutionalism. Africa’s dictators and tin gods have therefore shown absolutely no tolerance for federalism. The people, on the other hand, have in many African countries struggled for federalism and they often moved on to secessionist demands when they have found the path to “genuine” federalism blocked.

In Africa, federalism or not, the absence of truly democratic system is the main problem. Ethiopia had Ethnic federalism, that did not prevent for Tigrayans to have the upper hand despite for their numbers. Countries without ethnic federalism, in Africa, did even worse. Blunt dictatorship, genocide, etc..... Ethnic federalism or not, without truly democratic system, the whole concept behind fails.

[Aurorae Borealis]

New York Times,

Like much of Africa, Ethiopia is at a crossroads. Neither the centralized republic instituted by the Derg military junta in 1974 nor the ethnic federalism of Mr. Zenawi’s 1994 Constitution points to a way forward.

[DefendTheTruth]

Horus, thank you for your brilliant insight.

እኔ ሆረስ ቃላት መፍለጥ አይመቸኝም። ደሞ በሰው ልጅ ባህሪ ሳይንስ ላይ ያልቆመ ሃሳብ ተሽክሜ የምዞርበት ትከሻ የለኝም። የፖለቲከኞችና የሕዝብ ጥቅም በተፈጥሮ አንድ አይደሉም ። አንድ የሚሆኑት ወይም ሁለቱ ጥቅሞች የሚቃረቡት በመሪነት ብቃት፣ ችሎታ፣ ኢንተለጀእንስ እና በራሱ በሕዝቡ ንቃት ዘ ተካፍሎ አማካይነት ነው። ይህ በሌለበት ዝቅተኛ አይምሮ ተሸካሚ መሪዎች እና ደንቆሮ ሕዝብ እነሱን በሚከተልበት አገር አሁን ያለው አፍሪካን ይመስላል።
------- ሆረስ አይነ ኩሉ !

When people are asked about concrete question and they run out of answer to the specific question, then they start to beat around the bush and in the bush.

Those who know truly something don't have time to brag around in that same bush about themselves.

Even if we may don't know something, then we shouldn't allow ourselves to get impressed about mere bragging of peope of themselves.

[kibramlak]

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ Group rights ማለት የሀሳብ ደሀ የሆኑት ጠባብ ጎሰኞች በብዙሀኑ ጀርባ እንደ ትሁዋን ተጣብቀው እሚነግዱበት እና ያለምንም ድካም በትልቁ የግለሰብ ጥቅማቸውን የሚያተርፉበት ነው፣፣

እንደ ጃዋር የመሰለ መናጢ ስደተኛ ደሀ የነበረ በጎጣ ፓለቲካ ትርፍ መሀል ቦሌ በመቶ ሺወች በወር ቤት ተከራይቶ መኖር የቻለው በዘር ፓለቲካ ትርፋማነት ንግድ ስለተንጠለጠለ ነበር፣፣ ብዙዎች የግሩፕ ፖለቲካ እሚሉት እንደመዥገር የሰው ደም እየመጠጡ ትርፋማ ለመሆን ነው፣፣

Individual right ሆነ ማለት እነኝህ የዘር ፖለቲካ ነጋዴወች lucrative የሆነ የገቢ ምንጫቸው ይዘጋና ግለሰቡ እራሱን በህግ ከለላ መብቱን ያስጠብቃል ማለት ነው፣፣

Well,
you didn't address the central issue of "group-rights", which is not only about language, I guess, and I raised in my short reply to your post.

Taking even the language issue, the so called citizen-party (they are EZEMA in Ethiopia) didn't want to even include Afan Oromo or any other language of the country into its working language as a party and made it clear that its program is not oriented along the interest of the majority of the country. Are they going to tell us their program through a translator? In that case, then no, thanks, is our answer.

Like I said, we can drop the Ethnic Federalism at any time, as far as I am concerned, but we need an alternative solution to the problem(s) the Ethnic Federalism was conceived to address.

[Selam/]

የፈድራል የጎሳ ጥልን ብንመለከተው ስማኒያ በመቶው አማሮች ናቸው የሚያስነሱት ። ከአማራ ጋራ ነው ጠቡ ። ለምን አማሮች ወድ አማራ ክልላቸው እንደማሄዱ እና ስላም እንደማያወርዱ ግራ ነው የሚገባው ። ኦሮሞዎቹ ከሱማሌ ሲባረሩ ወሬ አላበዙም ሚሊዬኖች ኦሮሞዎች ነው ወድ ኦሮሞ ክልል የተመለሱት ። አማራ ግን ጝግም ብሎ ይከራከራል። በአዲስባባ ዙሪያ በፕላስቲክ ቤት ስርቶ ጅብ ልጁን እስከሚወስድበት ይጠብቃል ልክ አገሩ እንዳይመለስ አዲስ አበባ ላይ ይሞታል። ግን አልፈርድባቸውም አማሮች ቡዳ ናቸው የገዛ ወገኖቻቸውን አይቀበሉም

Kichamo Komalo - It's interesting to see such a dumb statement coming from a Woyane rat whose criminal organization perished a week ago while attempting to steal geographical, political and military milieus from others. They perished not while trying to peacefully live with others but while seeking to maintain complete control over the physical, social and political settings that don't belong to them.

It's appalling to see such a foolish statement coming from a cursed thug & Co that publicly renounced their Ethiopiawinet in a foreign soil. If you want innocent people to be uprooted in Ethiopia, by the same token, all stateless Woyane rats should be kicked out of their host countries. But I wonder where you would go if that happens. The only option I can think of is to be taken up by your spiritual commander, the Prince of Darkness. KIFU!

[Ethoash]

ከአማራ ጋራ ንጝግር ማረግ አይቻልም ። የፈደራልን አስተዳደር የጎሳ አስተዳደር እያለ መድረቁ በጣም አያስገርምም። የትኛው ክልል ነው የጎሳ ክልል የሆነው ። ኦሮሞ ክልል ውስጥ አማሮች ይኖራል በፈድራል አስተዳደር የተባለው እኮ ኦሮምኛ ለምዳቹሁ ባህሉን ተቀብላቹ ኑሩ ነው የተባለው ። ማንም ተነስቶ አማሮችን ቢያባርር ያ ማለት ፈደራል አስተዳደር የፈቀደው ማለት አይደለም ። ለምሳሌ አማራ ክልል ውስጥ ብዙ ጎሳዎች ይኖራሉ ግን አማርኛ መግባቢያቸው ነው አርጎባ የራሱ ቦታ አለው ግን አማርኛ ለምደው ተከባብረው ይኖራሉ። ማለት ነው እንድም ክልል የጎሳ አስተዳደር ያለ አይመስለኝም ሱማሌም ብዙ መጤዎችን ታስተናግድ ነበር እድሜ ለዶክተር አብይ ግዜ ሱማሌዎች ኦሮሞችና አማሮችን ማፈናቀል የቻሉት ይህ ማለት የፈደራል አስተዳደር ፈቅዶላቸው አይደለም ። የፈደራልን አስተዳደር ባለመረዳት ነው። ሕገ መንግስቱ ማንም ኢትዬዽያ የትም መኖር ይችላል ይላል። ይህ ማለት በሄድክበት ቦታ ክራይ ከፍለህ ሕጉን አክብረህ ባህሉንና ቋንቋውን ለምደህ ትኖራለህ ማለት ነው። ይህ ደግሞ ለአንድ ቀን በቱሪስትነት ከመጣህ ምንም አይደለም ቋንቋውን ባታውቅ ግን እዛው ኦሮሞ ውስጥ ተውልደህ አማርኛ እንጂ ኦሮምኛ አለምድም ካልክ ወርድ ክራስ ህ ።

ምናነት ደደብ ሕዝቦችን ነው የምንቀልበው።

ኢትዬዽያ በጎሳ አስተዳደር የምትገዛ ከሆነ ። ታድያ የታለ ፰፭ ቦታ የተከፈለችው ። በኢትየዽያ ውስጥ ኦሮምኛ አማርኛ ትግሬኛና ሱማልኛ ናቸው ዘጠኙን ክልል የሚያስተዳድሩበት ። ደቡብ ባይገርማቹሁ አማርኛ መርጦ በአማርኛ ይገለገላል። ታድያ እውነት ትግረዎች ረግጠህ ግዛ ቢሆኑ ለምን ደቡብን በአማርኛ እንዲማሩ ፈቀደላቸው።

እኔ ከአማራ ጋራ ክርክር የሚያረጉ ኦሮሞዎች ናቸው የሚገርሙኝ። አማሮች ታጥበው ጭቃ ናቸው ከነሱ ጋራ ከመከራከር እስቲ ና ና ኦሮምኛን ንካው ብሎ መዝጋት ነው እነሱን የሚያዋጣው የፈለጉትን ይለፍልፉ ልብ ኖራቸው ጦርነት አይጀምሩም ታድያ ማ ነው ኦሮሞኛን ከኦሮሞ ቋንቋ የሚነጥለው ። ማ ነው ሱማሊኛን ከሱማሌ የሚነጥለው ።

እነዚህ ቡዳዎች ያለፍንበትን የአማራ አገዛዝ ልክ እንደፃድቅ ሊያቀርቡልን መሞከራቸው ነው ። የሚገርመኝ ለምን ኤርትራ ተገነጠለች ጠቅልለህ ግዛን በመቃውም ኦነግ እና ወያኔዎች የተዋጉን እኮ የአማራን አገዛዝ አንፈልግም ብለው ነው።

እንደው አማሮች ከጎሳቸው በፊት ለኢትዬዽያ አንድነት የሚያስቡ ከሆነ ። ታድያ የብሔራዊ ቋንቋችን ለምን ኦሮምኛ እይሆንም ። ኦሮምኛ ያልስለጠነ ካላቹሁ ለምን ትግርኛ ለምን ግዕዝ ሁሉንም የማያጣላ ቋንቋ ለምን አይሆንም ። አማሮች በዚህ አይስማሙም የሚፈልጉት አማርኛ ረግጦ እንዲገዛ ነው።

ይህንን ፊልም ቁጭ ብለን ማየት ነው ። ወይኔ የገነባችውን ሐገር አማሮች ሲንዱት። አማርኛ ብለው ከደረቁ የርስ በርስ ጦርነት ይነሳል አገሪቱ ተወድማለች። ወይኔዎች ስረቁ ዘረፉ የሚሉበት ግዜም አይኖራቸውም ሕዝቡ ወይኔዎችን ተመለሱና ለመቶ አመት ግዙ የሚሉበት ግዜ ይመጣል።