Mereja Forum

[OPFist]

Why Mengistu, Meles and Meshrefet Started as Democratic Revolutionaries but Ended up Dictatorial Reactionaries?

Interestingly all the three hitherto revolutions were reversed by the three initially democrats and revoluionaries. Mengistu was one of the good intended officier during the 1974 revolution. Meles also had good vision as he came to power in 1991 and of course, Meshrefet/Abiy was almost adored as Messiah as he started to rule in 2018. But, why did all these three good intended men end up as evil fascists? I think, they all became infected with virus of Naftagnas with pretext of prioritizing Ethiopiawinet, which in essence is Amharanet. The virus is very subtile and it slowly corrupted the mind of the three leaders. Thus, Mengistu betrayed all oppressed Ethiopians and was manipulated by the Naftagna virus. Meles betrayed mainly the oppressed Tigreans in order to serve Amharanet at federal level also being manipulated by the Neftegnas. Abiy is becoming the big loser for betraying the Oromo cause and serving Amharanet. The main method of Naftagna manipulation is quickly being friends and giving love and respect the three narcist leaders were craving. They adored them and surely manipulated them to do the bidding of Amharanet. Their mechnism of manipulation has got five elements or steps:

– 1st, the Naftagnas got attention of the three Ms (Mengistu, Meles and Meshrefet).

– 2nd, they awash brain of the Ms with their cause using the pretext of Ethiopiawinet.

– 3rd, they made the Ms fall in love of Amharanet, which is camouflaged as Ethiopiawinet.

– 4th, they enslaved the minds of the three Ms and

– 5th and last, they got their job of promoting Amharanet done by the Ms.

Most PAE (pro-Amharanet elites) from different non-Amharas were manipulated with such 5 steps mechanism in order to serve Amharanet conciously or unconsciously. The PAE from the Oromo now in power at Finfinne palace being led by Abiy Ahmed are classical examples of the enslaved minds to do the bidding of the Naftagna virus. That is why the three Ms started as democratic revolutionaties and ended up as dictatorial reactionaries.
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[Abere]

OPFist,

How do not they start like this having the wildest citizen like you? You would be mistreated to the highest degree punishment possible if wildest non-law abiding people were citizens of the Western world. It is sad to be a leader of savage people whose full-time job is conspiracy and taking illiterates farmers as their hostages. Good for nothing people are curse and worth to punish.

[OPFist]

The third post monarchy dictator, Dr. Meshrefet (Abiy Ahmed) is now leading a crack down on the OLF and of course the Oromophobic Abyssinians are celebrating him and his action. No Abesha force could defeat the Oromo in the past history, but always certain Oromo power monger betrayed and beated us to submission. The latest three dictators (Mengistu, Meles and Meshrefet/Abiy Ahmed) also used certain Oromo elites to subdue the Oromo people. The OLF fought against all the three, but lost because of the Oromo traitors who chose to serve the dictators. All the three dictators came to power in Finfinne palace promising us freedom, equality and democracy, but they ended up being fascists, authoritarian and dictators. Mengistu said “yale min im dem”, but killed hundred tausands. Meles said “ye biher netsanet”, but enslaved all nations. Meshrefet said “Oromon netsa awetahu”, but batrayed Oromummaa to keep the status quo of Amharanet as the main element of Ethiopiawinet. All the three hated the OLF and its cause of Bilisummaa Oromo. To defeat the Oromo liberation movement, they all tried to instrumentalize the conflict of two goals in our camp.

[OPFist]

There were always, and there are still today, two views and two perspectives among Oromo nationalists. I think the main causes of these two views are the version of Oromo history we do have in mind and our own individual biography. According to the discussion I made with many fellow Oromo individuals, there are even some who do just swim and paddle between the two blocks of ideas. What are these blocks and how can we accommodate them in our journey? I think we can classify fellow Oromo individuals into three in respect to their view about our history and destiny:

– Oromo individuals who seem to accept the history version that we are original Cush nation and even that we are the “stalk” of other Cush nations. The implication of such history is that this group tends to believe and accept that the Oromo people should stay together with Abyssinians (converted Cushites = habeshanized Cushites), who are also “our siblings” from the same origin. So, this group tends to advocate for liberated Gadaa Oromia within a united Ethiopia (Great Oromia) and, if possible, struggle further for the Oromo Renaissance (here Oromo being both the Oromo-proper, who now identify themselves as Oromo, and the Oromo-progenies, who “lost their Oromummaa gradually in the last 3000 years history”). I think this is the reason for some Oromo politicians to start speaking about necessity of a change of philosophy in Oromo liberation movement.

– Oromo individuals who seem to accept that there can be historical relations between Habesha and Oromo, but believe that most important is the colonial relation after Habesha rulers invaded and subjugated Gadaa Oromia at the end of the nineteenth century in connection to the European colonizers’ movement of the Scramble for Africa. No question that this group thinks the only destiny of Oromo is a complete liberation of Gadaa Oromia from the colonization or domination by our neighboring Abyssinia. Of course, this group also sees a possibility of union of free peoples in the region after independence of the Oromo for possible common benefit of all peoples in the region.

– Oromo individuals who do just paddle between the above two options based on the situation because of their own biography. Most of such Oromo personalities or groups have got loyalty conflicts. They tend to be loyal to both Ethiopia and Oromia. People with such minds are either the supporters of the unitarist Oromo movements or they are just promoters of only federation in the Ethiopian context without demanding for further self-determination of Oromo people or for independence of Oromia. Now, such mindset is almost dying among the Oromo community for the struggle is becoming clear and radical.

[OPFist]

I do personally share this concern. Firstly, the so called “modern Oromo history” is not yet verified exactly. Secondly, Habesha elites, as crooked they always are, try to use this “modern Oromo history” as an instrument against the Oromo liberation movement. That is actually what we could observe in the cyberworld in the past many years. Habesha elites always try to dilute Oromo’s radical step towards freedom and independence by trying to tell us that we, the Oromo, are part of them – “Ethiopians”, and they actually used such history to try to convince us. They untiredly told us that both Amharas and Tigarus are from Oromo origin, so the liberation of Oromia from the Habesha subjugators, who “are Oromo” themselves, is “not logical”.

[Guest1]

let me try, briefly
Mengistu without a shred of doubt, leader of a revolution, pro socialist
Meles head of bandits, reactionary is not the right word, pseudo capitalist
Abiy head of reformed bandits, pseudo liberal?
It is not as easy as it looks!
Could be wrong

[DefendTheTruth]

Why Mengistu, Meles and Meshrefet Started as Democratic Revolutionaries but Ended up Dictatorial Reactionaries?

Interestingly all the three hitherto revolutions were reversed by the three initially democrats and revoluionaries. Mengistu was one of the good intended officier during the 1974 revolution. Meles also had good vision as he came to power in 1991 and of course, Meshrefet/Abiy was almost adored as Messiah as he started to rule in 2018. But, why did all these three good intended men end up as evil fascists? I think, they all became infected with virus of Naftagnas with pretext of prioritizing Ethiopiawinet, which in essence is Amharanet. The virus is very subtile and it slowly corrupted the mind of the three leaders. Thus, Mengistu betrayed all oppressed Ethiopians and was manipulated by the Naftagna virus. Meles betrayed mainly the oppressed Tigreans in order to serve Amharanet at federal level also being manipulated by the Neftegnas. Abiy is becoming the big loser for betraying the Oromo cause and serving Amharanet. The main method of Naftagna manipulation is quickly being friends and giving love and respect the three narcist leaders were craving. They adored them and surely manipulated them to do the bidding of Amharanet. Their mechnism of manipulation has got five elements or steps:

– 1st, the Naftagnas got attention of the three Ms (Mengistu, Meles and Meshrefet).

– 2nd, they awash brain of the Ms with their cause using the pretext of Ethiopiawinet.

– 3rd, they made the Ms fall in love of Amharanet, which is camouflaged as Ethiopiawinet.

– 4th, they enslaved the minds of the three Ms and

– 5th and last, they got their job of promoting Amharanet done by the Ms.

Most PAE (pro-Amharanet elites) from different non-Amharas were manipulated with such 5 steps mechanism in order to serve Amharanet conciously or unconsciously. The PAE from the Oromo now in power at Finfinne palace being led by Abiy Ahmed are classical examples of the enslaved minds to do the bidding of the Naftagna virus. That is why the three Ms started as democratic revolutionaties and ended up as dictatorial reactionaries.
Read more: https://fayyisoromia.wordpress.com/2017 ... UJEw1qj52c

A brain dead, you don't even know what you're scribbling, a dead-body moving and pretend to know something.

If you can't own a country, then you can't be its leader. Can you mention a single instance where it deviates from this simple logic? You are really such an idiot, but your end is now in sight, on the positive side.

Woyane lost, because it was trying to lead a country that it disdained the whole of its existencet, Lemma Megersa of OPDO lost the internal power struggle in his own party, because he was trying to lead it before first owning it and that backfired on him.

It is also good that you finally come to acknowledge the fact that the Ethiopianism virus is subtle and you failed to your own dismay to understand that up until know, in your bravado of burra karrayyuu to recognize this simple fact.

You contemn Ethiopia and yet again you die from the ambition of having a power in Ethiopia, that will never happen.

Someone called you የመንደር ወመኔ፣ rightfully so.

[DefendTheTruth]

There were always, and there are still today, two views and two perspectives among Oromo nationalists. I think the main causes of these two views are the version of Oromo history we do have in mind and our own individual biography. According to the discussion I made with many fellow Oromo individuals, there are even some who do just swim and paddle between the two blocks of ideas. What are these blocks and how can we accommodate them in our journey? I think we can classify fellow Oromo individuals into three in respect to their view about our history and destiny:

– Oromo individuals who seem to accept the history version that we are original Cush nation and even that we are the “stalk” of other Cush nations. The implication of such history is that this group tends to believe and accept that the Oromo people should stay together with Abyssinians (converted Cushites = habeshanized Cushites), who are also “our siblings” from the same origin. So, this group tends to advocate for liberated Gadaa Oromia within a united Ethiopia (Great Oromia) and, if possible, struggle further for the Oromo Renaissance (here Oromo being both the Oromo-proper, who now identify themselves as Oromo, and the Oromo-progenies, who “lost their Oromummaa gradually in the last 3000 years history”). I think this is the reason for some Oromo politicians to start speaking about necessity of a change of philosophy in Oromo liberation movement.

– Oromo individuals who seem to accept that there can be historical relations between Habesha and Oromo, but believe that most important is the colonial relation after Habesha rulers invaded and subjugated Gadaa Oromia at the end of the nineteenth century in connection to the European colonizers’ movement of the Scramble for Africa. No question that this group thinks the only destiny of Oromo is a complete liberation of Gadaa Oromia from the colonization or domination by our neighboring Abyssinia. Of course, this group also sees a possibility of union of free peoples in the region after independence of the Oromo for possible common benefit of all peoples in the region.

– Oromo individuals who do just paddle between the above two options based on the situation because of their own biography. Most of such Oromo personalities or groups have got loyalty conflicts. They tend to be loyal to both Ethiopia and Oromia. People with such minds are either the supporters of the unitarist Oromo movements or they are just promoters of only federation in the Ethiopian context without demanding for further self-determination of Oromo people or for independence of Oromia. Now, such mindset is almost dying among the Oromo community for the struggle is becoming clear and radical.

Who was the (last) leader of that invaded and subjugated "Gada Oromia", or was "Gada Oromia" without its own leader, in which case the claim of being invaded and subjugated boils down to a self-contradicting make it believe burraa karrayyu?

[OPFist]

Disregarding the different versions of our history, we can agree that our nationalism (Oromummaa) depends on the view we do have on our national (Oromo) interest. Those of us, who do support and serve this national interest, are the ones with greater Oromummaa. So Oromummaa is, not only about biological origin, but more about psychological make-up. To that matter, we have seen a lot of biological Oromo individuals who do identify themselves with Oromo foes. I personally think, beyond biological Oromo origin and beyond the language we do speak, an Oromo with sound Oromummaa is for me the one who identifies himself with being Oromo, with Afaan Oromo, with our liberation cause and with the Oromo way of life, including Oromo culture.