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The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by TGAA » 16 Oct 2020, 00:42


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Re: The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by Horus » 16 Oct 2020, 00:57

TGAA

ይህን ታሪክ ላጫውትህ ። መብት የሚለው ቃል እጅግ ክቡር፣ እጅግ ግዙፍ የህግ ጽንሰ ነገር ነው ፣ እሱም Right ማለት ነው ። የቃሉ ስር ግን አበተ፣ አሰረ የሚለው ነው ። ድሮ ቋሚ ፖሊስ ወይም እስር ቤት ባልነበረበት ዘመን አንድ ስው ስትከስ (ካሳ ስትሻ) ያ ሰው ካሳውን እስክ ሚወጣ ያንተ እስረኛ ሆኖ ካንተ ጋር ይታበት ነበር። ያንተ መብት ነበር ! ሌላ ሰው በሱ ምትክ የሚታበት ካቀረብ ያ ሰው የተውሶው ታሳሪ ዋስ (የውሰት ታሳሪ) ይባል ስለነበር ዛሬ ዋስ የሚለው ጽንስ ነገርም ከዚያ የመጣ ነው ። ተክሳሽን ማበት ያማራ እንጂ የኦሮሞ ካልቸር አልነበረም ።
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Re: The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by yaballo » 16 Oct 2020, 01:03

TGAA,

Thanks. So that you know, that scene was filmed in what is today southern Gojam [near the town of Dejen overlooking the "Abay river gorge or "Abay Bereha"] & that area used to be part of the majority Afaan-Oromo speaking "Wamberal" region of Southern Gojam & part of Metekel. BTW: I've been to that part of Gojam [I've been to Gondar, parts of Wollo too]. That is why some Oromos claim that the border of Oromia should be north of the Abay river gorge. Also, the Oromos in that area are demanding a "special woreda" status within the region to which the town of Dejen belongs. OK? .. Bye mi hermano 8) .





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Re: The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by Horus » 16 Oct 2020, 01:27

አይ እንግዲህ ነገርን ነገር ያነሳዋል፣ አሳ ጎርጓሪም ዘንዶ ያወጣል እንዲሉ ወምበራ ጎጃም ያሉት በ1560ቹ በጋላ ወረራ ተፈናቅለው ደጋ ዳሞት ጎጃም የሰፈሩት የጋፋት ሕዝቦች ናቸው ። እንሱ ያኔ አገራቸው በነበረው ያዛሬ ምዕራብ ካዋሽ መንሻ እስክ አባይ በነበርው እጅግ ለም አገራችው የነበሩት እንደ ገብጣኖች ሌላ ስማችው ወምበርማ ይባል ነበር። እነዚህ ዛሬ ዘርና ቋንቋቸው በኦሮሞ የገዳ ግፍ የጠፋው የጋፋት ሕዝቦች ናቸው ። ደጀን እንኳ ይቅር፣ እንሱም ከመንዝ ሂድው እዚያ የስፈሩ የስሜን ሽዋ አማሮች ናችው ። ይህ ሁሉ የተጻፈ ታሪክ ነው፣ የኦነጋዊ ኦሮሙማ ተረት አይደለም ። ወደ ፊት ጂኒኦግራፊ ምርመራ ሃቁን ያወጣዋል፣ ቋንቋ ጂን ስላልሆነ !!!

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Re: The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by yaballo » 16 Oct 2020, 02:04

.. and don't be surprised if deep down in his family closet, our Gurage brother Horus actually finds a distant Oromo relative as most Gurages do have some Oromo relatives, ancestry, etc; just like most Oromos living in Oromos districts bordering on the brotherly Guraghe tribes such as "Bacho" also have Guraghe relatives/ancestry, etc

I hope that he starts examining his family tree soon so that he gets to find "his proud Oromo relatives/ancestry" that would help him reduce his shrill, unhealthy, nasty & over-the-top Oromophibia. 8) .. We could only hope ... 8) ..

Horus: please look to see if you have some Oromo relatives/ancestors. Galatoomii. Nagaatti.






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Re: The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by Noble Amhara » 16 Oct 2020, 02:32

Dejen is Amhara there might have been some galla migrants from Bantu south east Africa who swam across the abay but that is meaning oromos are new comers to abysinnia you can go to your home in Namibia or Burundi or borana aka kenya



Here you can see them wearing imperial Amhara attire from Menz/Geshe Province the culture of atses. Under the discipline of Imaye Menelik



It’s quite the opposite these are Gurage Soddo Gudifechas that were unfortunately forced to be slaves for Oromos for hundreds of years this culture and people are Gurage. Now watch idiot yabelo go into his baboon nature of threats and intimidation he has yet to free his “jawar”

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Re: The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by Horus » 16 Oct 2020, 03:44

ያቤሎ

እስክ ተወሰነ ድረስ ላመሰግንህ እፈልጋልሁ ። እዚህ ፎረም ላይ ታሪክ እየጠቀስኩ የሸዋ ኦሮሞ አባቶች በሰሜን አማራ፣ በደቡብ ጉራጌዎች ናቸው ያልኩት የዛሬ 15 ወይም 20 አመት ነው። ለምን ቢሉ ያጠናሁት ትክክለኛ ሃቅ ስልሆነ ። የጉራጌ አባት ጎሳዎች ገላንና ያዬ ይባላሉ ። በዘመነ ዛጉዌና አምደ ጺዮን ጋላ ሸዋ ከመድረሱ 200 አመት በፊት የኦሪት ሃይማኖት ያመልኩ የነበሩት የጎር አምላክ፣ የጎርጌ ኦሪቴዎች ነበሩ። ገላንና ያዬዎች የዛሬዎቹ ኦሮሞ የተባሉት ገላኖችና የበቾ ያያ ኦሮሞች፣ የማሞ ወልዴ ዘሮች ናቸው።

ስለዚህ ያቤሎ ትክክል ነህ የሸዋ ኦሮሞ ግማሹ ደቡብና ምራብ ሸዋ አባቶች ጉራጌዎች ናቸው ። እነዚህ የጥንት ጉራጌዎች ኦሮምኛ ተናጋሪ መሆናቸው እስክ ተወሰነ ባህላቸውም መለወጡ ትክክል ነህ ። እኔኮ ያንን ነበር ስል የነበረው ፣ ከዛይ እስክ ባዴቄ እስክ አዳዲ እስክ ወንጪ ያ ሁሉኮ የጉራጌ አገር ነው ።

ዛሬ እነዚህ የጉራጌ ግንድ ሸዋ ኦሮሞች ይሄው ልክ እንደ ጉራጌ አያቶቻቸው የኢትዮጵያን አንድነት አላስደፍር ብለው ሲታግሉ ሳይ እጅግ ይገርመኛል፣ ጂናችን በኛ ላይ ያልው ትጽኖ ማለት ነው። ደስ ይልኛል !!

በመሃል ኢትዮጵያ መስቀል (ኢሬቻ) ፣ ገና፣ ፈርስ፣ እንሰት፣ እቁብ፣ ንግድ፣ ስራ፣ ለመጡት ኦሮሞች ያስተማረ ጉራጌ ነው ። ኢሪቻ በጉራጌ ቋንቋ ያለ የሴም ቃል ነው ። ታዪ ደንድአ አሬዶ ስንል አሬዶ (አረዳ) የጉራጌ ቃልና ስም ነው ። አሬዶ ማለት ወልዴ ማለት ነው፣ ግዕዝ ነው ። እኔ እነዚህ ግሩም የገላን ልጆች በርቱ ነው ምላቸው ። አንድ ቀን እውነተኛ ግንዳቸውን ሰለሚያግኙ፣ አንተም ይህን መቀበልህ ያስመሰግንሃል ። ማንነቱን የሚክድ ፍሪ ነው ።


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Re: The Justice system 1934/1926 in Oromia and other part of Ethiopia . Interesting

Post by yaballo » 16 Oct 2020, 05:35

Horus,

That is Ok. Galatoomi/thanks.

1) - Remember that ALL human societies are the by-products of a series of tribal/cultural & even racial admixtures often spanning generations &/or centuries. Oromos, Amharas, Somalis or Gurages are not an exception to this rule - as you know.

2) - Note that Oromos - most of them anyway - never sought to dismantle Ethiopia. To the contrary in fact. Arguably, Oromos paid a very high price in lives, limbs, resources & in endless sufferings to preserve the "unity of Ethiopia" - though they have virtually nothing useful or beneficial to show for their enormous sacrifices. Of course, this last sad puzzle applies to Gurages, Amharas, Woliatas, Sidamas, Konsos, etc.

3) - Oromos' main demand has always been the respect of their right to a self/autonomous rule. That is not a too much demand - is it? I don't think so! .. Yet, this same relatively simple political demand is too much for many "akarari neftengyas". But, if these last lot keep rejecting this basic right of the Oromos+other communities & keep treating them as "a suspect bunch of Ethiopians who are somehow a threat to Ethiopian unity"; then, these communities too WILL divorce Ethiopia just like the communities in northern Ethiopia [Eritrea & Tigray] have done. At the very least, the country would risk entering an era that resembles the "Zemene Mesafint".

Of course, NO ONE APPOINTED the 'akarari neftegnas' to be the sole guardians of the "Ethiopian Unity" as Ethiopia DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM ONLY!! .. But, let's hope that things would improve for the long-suffering people in Ethiopia.

Ker/Nagaatti/be cher.










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