Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑14 Oct 2020, 20:39
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑14 Oct 2020, 18:35
Wedi=Tarik.
Anyways. It is NOT the system of governance, which is of course, going to inevitably have its flaws just like the systems before it did, that enabled the TPLF to loot. It is the might is right concept that did. Mengistu looted. Haile selassie had millions upon millions in offshore accounts. Do you blame the systems of governance for their looting too, then? If so, then be vocal about that, say it every time you choose to condemn the federalist, albeit flawed, system of governance we have now. IF you do not do so, then you'll just confirm that, you are another Amhara ''unionist-extremist,'' as opposed to what you want to portray yourself to be [a just/middle of the road, ''ethiopianist.'' or etc...
Like it or not, federalism is the only way to keep Ethiopia together, and the only ones crying about it are some Amhara's who long for the old system which benefitted them mostly, to the detriment of others. It just needs to be improved upon, as opposed to being completely dismantled.
Sadacha Macca,
Welcome to the field. Haven't seen your inputs for some time.
The PM is saying that there was the worst form of Centralized government in the country for the last 27 years...but presenting itself as Federalist. Menge was a totalitarian communist Junta who exterminated Amharas more than any other ethnic group in that country. He nationalized every hut they built in the country and reduced them to beggars. If you don't know ..Menge is Oromo too ethnically speaking...unless of course you call him Neftegna same way most Oromo elites like to refer to our current PM as well.
Hailesilassie was a feudal emperor who ruled the very backward country with how he understood kingship should be. Perspective and and time references are of paramount importance when we are discussing about governments. Now both systems have been gone long before I came to this planet. We are here and now trying to correct historical mistakes and chart a future that can accommodate our interests based on merits ....not based on to which tribe we belong to. Unless we are to have such a system, everything and anything that are done because of "might is right" will definitely have a short span of life and dangerously regressive. Now you may call that system Federalism or anything else isn't that important to me.
Thanks wondime.
I am not doubting his claims, rather, I am saying that the system of governance in itself, is not to blame for a corrupt government.
Is the system then, or now, perfect? Of course not. It is flawed, just like the previous systems were.
But, it's a system or way, to keep the country united, while at the same time, giving the various states the right to self rule.
Did the TPLF dominated EPRDF have a genuine form of federalism? No, of course not. It was tigrayan elites dominating everyone else, but let us also not discount or undervalue the role the amhara and oromo elites played in maintaining that system.
It would've been impossible for the tplf to rule for one year, forget about 20 plus years, without their support.
But we need a federalist type system to maintain Ethiopia, otherwise, it will be back to perpetual conflict and instability, with no chances of ever being stable enough to fight our collective enemy: poverty.
A strong central government just won't work for us, of course, we need a central govt, a necessary evil perhaps, but not one that is too strong, strong to the point that the oromo, somali, etc, do not get a say in their own affairs.
I was born in 1990, so all I know is the current system as well, but all one has to do is read books, and consult with their elderly family members to know that the previous governments didn't work, my parents for example lived through part of haile selassie's regime and most of the derg, and we have grandparents who lived through both. their input and perspectives are priceless.
even using the term ''tribe,'' is insulting, we're nations and nationalities, not ''tribes,'' a term the european elites typically use to demean and insult Africans.
like it or not, the addis abeban view on ethiopia is a minority view, one not even shared by their own amara counterparts in rural gondar, gojjam, etc, much less elsewhere such as oromia, the south, somali, afar, etc.