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[Hawzen]

Haileselasie’s blunder led to 30 years of bleeding and the separation of one people into two. It also unjustly (and stupidly) landlocked a country of over 100 Million people, the largest by far in the region.

Let’s avoid another blunder.

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Correction:

King Haile Slasie did not separate "one people into two". Because there has never been one people separated into two in our history. We are Eritreans and you agames have always been Ethiopians. To the contrary, King Haile Slasie illegally nullified the Federation in 1952 and then untied Eritrea with Ethiopia by disregarding Eritreans choice which in turn had terrible consequences to both the people of Eritrea and Ethiopia. The closest one to your claim of "the separation of one people into two" happened under the watch of your beloved Zena led TPLF. After Master Shabo completely liberating Eritrea in 1991 and then carried your TPLF all the way to Arat killo, Eritrea deservedly snatched back its rightful Independence.

Secondly, the land locking of Ethiopia happened by your TPLF. After Ethiopians had been using Eritrean ports for around 7 years almost for free, your beloved Zena ordered to Ethiopia to abandon Eritreans ports and then he told Eritreans to use our Red Sea to drink our camels . Guess what?? we have just been doing that...

Third, you have the audacity to point your finger to King Haile Slasie for 30 years of bleeding...How about your TPLF's 20 years of crime on the people of Eritrea...3 years of terrible war that took hundreds of thousands of lives followed the deportation of over 100 thousand Eritreans and confiscation of their hard earned wealth by your TPLF cadres. God knows how much Ethiopian wealth your TPLF wasted to isolate Eritreans, impose sanctions and on propaganda to give Eritrea and Eritreans the worst names in the world. By the way, I would like to express my heartfelt appreciation for the people of Ethiopia who showed their love during that dark time of deportation.. We will never forget the crimes committed by your TPLF as well as the love we received by the rest of Ethiopians!!!

Last but not least, stop comparing apple with Orange. Your Tigray is the least important killil in Ethiopia whereas Eritrea has never been part of Ethiopia in its history since its inception till 1952 when King Haile Slasie discarded the Federation...

God bless Eritrea and Ethiopia.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF

[AbebeB]

Haileselasie’s blunder led to 30 years of bleeding and the separation of one people into two. It also unjustly (and stupidly) landlocked a country of over 100 Million people, the largest by far in the region.

Let’s avoid another blunder.

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Historically, it appeared difficult to repair Empire states than dismantle. Ethiopia is the last Empire on earth awaiting immediate disintegration.

Good luck with regain of nations’ freedom!

[eden]

Abebe

As long as there’s tolerance on all sides, unity is the way. We need to think in terms of building strong and united people that can compete with big players in the world. The alternative is become pawns and never ending infighting.

Hawze

Of course, they were one people, by that I mean both Eritrea and Ethiopia. Your claim that they never were one people is non sense.

Having access and being owner is different. Ethiopia needs to own so the people are not at the mercy of Eritrea rulers. Isn’t that what happened? That we lock out Ethiopia if we don’t like their policy towards us? This is stupidity and a recipe for insecurity.

[AbebeB]

Abebe

As long as there’s tolerance on all sides, unity is the way. We need to think in terms of building strong and united people that can compete with big players in the world. The alternative is become pawns and never ending infighting.

Hawze

Of course, they were one people, by that I mean both Eritrea and Ethiopia. Your claim that they never were one people is non sense.

Having access and being owner is different. Ethiopia needs to own so the people are not at the mercy of Eritrea rulers. Isn’t that what happened? That we lock out Ethiopia if we don’t like their policy towards us? This is stupidity and a recipe for insecurity.

eden,
No healthy person underestimates the benefit of unity. But no unity at the cost of own identity to build others superiority. It is better to be slave of civilized nation than fellow citizen with primitive persons who claim superiority contrary to its status quo.

History clearly tells us, these savage menelik residues never get to be managed. They fiercely shout to live at the cost of others where they have nothing beneficiary to contribute to the union. Can you imagine dwelling with such least civilized most poor people who, out ignorance, is trying yo keeping their leper king's failed project is possible?

Should they know what exactly is going on around, they could have begged, I repeat begged, Oromo nation to live with but not use a willy-nilly approach as their old days.

So, globally acceptable procedure is that the existing empire must be dismantled first followed by willful regathering of nations yo be in the future union.
Alas!

least that

[Hazega/Tsazega.]

...being Eritrean is one thing at most, not the only thing that makes up who individuals are...

True but yet you try so hard to convince others that you are are an Eritrean. Why is that?, do you think that gives your pro-woyane/meles favoring arguments credence if you present yourself as an eritrean?...or is it to create subconscious doubts in ethiopians that eritreans have some special unbreakable bond with the backstabbing Woyane?...or is it to irritate real eritreans & create doubt in the gullible?...or a combination of all these?

Why don't you do a poll of who has claimed/stated to be eritrean the most on this forum??...or even a compiled search of postings. No doubt the top contenders would be yourself (eden), Tarik, Awash!!...more so than any real eritreans on this forum. "The numbers don't lie,"...except in the hands of woyanu...100% of the time

Another thing, giving up some land to Ethiopia to guarantee its people access to the sea is not treason. It's security. You worry too much about man made maps....

Where you a Woyane cartographer?? This seems to be the very logic that woyane used/uses to draw up their new maps and steal neighboring lands. For the sake of security you are telling us not to resist and be okay with it?...what if the thieves want to steal more?, as they usually do & are doing!

It was fun seeing all your twey'y/twists but you were no match for justo & his betri haqi!

You got served/owned!...in fact both of your bi-polar personalities (edu/helu) got served/owned!...ie your fantasy claimed-eritrean-persona and your actual+agame+persona.

[YAY]

Dear Eden: Every failed plan or decision is not equal to a blunder

A blunder is " a stupid or careless mistake." To blunder means "to move or act blindly, stupidly, or without direction or steady guidance." To deliberate means ' to make a carefully considered, thought-through decision.'

Emperor Haile Selassie's decision to dismantle the Etiyo-Eritrean Federation and annex Eritrea was not a blunder (a careless mistake) but a failed plan (a detailed decision about what should be done). Your repeated assertion that the independence of Eritrea "landlocked a country of over 100 Million people" is not a stupid mistake on your part but a deliberate plan to "convince" Eritreans to give Etiyopiya a port in exchange for a presumed Eritrea's eternal "national security". Eritrea shall not break its guiding principle of territorial integrity for an uncertain future security. Your plan shall fail because both friendly nations shall be guided by principles expressed in the international Law of the Seas.

Similarly, I don't think PM Abiy Ahmed Ali is also playing (or committing a blunder) with TPLF's elections in Tigraiy Kellil. His main opinion that any election that is not certified by the "Ethiopian National Board of Elections" is unconstitutional, and therefore, not acceptable as legitimate by the Federation of Etiyopiya. PM Abiy is not opposed to elections in Tigraiy in general, but he thinks that the current election being conducted by TPLF leadership shall be determined unconstitutional by the National Federal Houses (of Peoples Representatives and Federation). I agree with his conclusion on this matter.

Some elections are genuine and acceptable, and some are fraud and reject-able.There are legitimate reasons why all elections are accepted when genuine, free, open, not discriminatory, etc. peaceful competitions. That is why neutral laws, procedures, and election authorities are needed---i.e. to make sure that elections are done with the guidance of the constitutions and related laws. Tigraiy Kellil is still part of Federal Etiyopiya, and must abide by the laws of the land. I believe that TPLF would be at fault to defy the laws of Federal Etiyopiya just because it thinks they are illegal, or Article 39 of the Constitution gives it the right to self-rule, without going to the courts and winning its case.

If TPLF keeps on defying or opposing the legal interpretations of the House of Federation or the House of Representatives or the Prime Minister, etc.without a court of law's decision supporting it, the Federal authorities have the legitimate Constitutional power (right or mandate) to protect and defend the implementation of the laws; and to declare a State of Emergency in any part of the country and enforce the laws, or bring individuals or groups that are doing things illegally in line with the law. Such actions would not be considered as declaring a war against the People or Government or Kellil of Tigraiy in general, but only against transgressors of the law. That is what a country under the rule of law means.

I advise the Federal authorities of Etiyopiya, before they take any law enforcement action in the Tigraiy Kellil (or any other region), the Government needs to widely and broadly explain the legal basis and purposes of its intentions to the People and local Government and seek their cooperation, and how that would be better for every one.

Haileselasie’s blunder led to 30 years of bleeding and the separation of one people into two. It also unjustly (and stupidly) landlocked a country of over 100 Million people, the largest by far in the region.

Let’s avoid another blunder.

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