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Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by kibramlak » 07 Aug 2020, 07:37

Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Erhiopia. Leadership is not the bloods of the barbaric subhumans. With a closer scrutiny, am questioning Abiy's leadership skills. Forget about the subhuman galls who are surrounding him. Sources close to the matter say Takele is immersed in total corruption through his own family networks. They try to cheat by decorating Addis. But in reality, what they do from the background is another story. This country will never heal as long as these ethnic Bantus are not eradicated.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by eden » 07 Aug 2020, 08:43

You fanatics won't be satisfied with an Angel let alone Mustefe. Bereket Simon told Abiy you can't satisfy a mob. That's why you react this way. Abiy gives you something and you keep asking for more and more and more. Abiy is fed up with your fanatical demand to ignore all views expect your view.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by kibramlak » 07 Aug 2020, 08:57

What the hell are you talking about ? Pathetic
eden wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 08:43
You fanatics won't be satisfied with an Angel let alone Mustefe. Bereket Simon told Abiy you can't satisfy a mob. That's why you react this way. Abiy gives you something and you keep asking for more and more and more. Abiy is fed up with your fanatical demand to ignore all views expect your view.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by Noble Amhara » 07 Aug 2020, 09:01

Virus tegaru Abiy must stop a genocide that’s all we are saying oh is that to much yeah just let thousands of innocent non political Christians be slaughtered in Oromia call it a day
eden wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 08:43
You fanatics won't be satisfied with an Angel let alone Mustefe. Bereket Simon told Abiy you can't satisfy a mob. That's why you react this way. Abiy gives you something and you keep asking for more and more and more. Abiy is fed up with your fanatical demand to ignore all views expect your view.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by kibramlak » 07 Aug 2020, 09:12

Abiy will not escape from being held responsible for the premeditated genocide. In legal terms, premeditated attacks are serious crimes. The ethnic savage Bantus were prepared before hand such us by pre-listing and screening the names of the people they are going to kill, the houses to burn, and the properties to damage or to take control. These are all the legacies of savage subhuman ethnic politics

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by gagi » 07 Aug 2020, 10:20

So you want Abiy to change a highly ethnicized Ethiopia in 2 years time? Abiy sees the bigger picture. He does not take knee-jerk reactions. That is a mark of a wise leader who has his country’s integrity at heart. You cannot do away with ethnic politics in Ethiopia. You try taming it. Abiy knows the limits of his power. This is a man who managed to keep the multi-ethnic army in tact amidst all this madness. He is absolutely right to keep away the army or let it have a limited role only among this mess which is the result of a deliberate 27 year old act of evil by the TPLF in sowing division and hatred among the different peoples of Ethiopia.

Abiy is the right leader for the time and the situation we are in. Support Abiy, allow him to consolidate! The alternative is a catastrophe.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by eden » 07 Aug 2020, 10:24

gagi wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 10:20
The alternative is a catastrophe.
The alternative is election

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by Noble Amhara » 07 Aug 2020, 10:39

You must be Eritrean ofc none of your people are harmed during all of this. Go fck off Abiy is a incompetent moron you don’t care about Human rights violations Fck you monkey chauvinist arselicker

Blood wrenched Meshrefet not acting know means he won’t act later
gagi wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 10:20
So you want Abiy to change a highly ethnicized Ethiopia in 2 years time? Abiy sees the bigger picture. He does not take knee-jerk reactions. That is a mark of a wise leader who has his country’s integrity at heart. You cannot do away with ethnic politics in Ethiopia. You try taming it. Abiy knows the limits of his power. This is a man who managed to keep the multi-ethnic army in tact amidst all this madness. He is absolutely right to keep away the army or let it have a limited role only among this mess which is the result of a deliberate 27 year old act of evil by the TPLF in sowing division and hatred among the different peoples of Ethiopia.

Abiy is the right leader for the time and the situation we are in. Support Abiy, allow him to consolidate! The alternative is a catastrophe.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by tolcha » 07 Aug 2020, 11:43

kibramlak wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 07:37
Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Erhiopia. Leadership is not the bloods of the barbaric subhumans. With a closer scrutiny, am questioning Abiy's leadership skills. Forget about the subhuman galls who are surrounding him. Sources close to the matter say Takele is immersed in total corruption through his own family networks. They try to cheat by decorating Addis. But in reality, what they do from the background is another story. This country will never heal as long as these ethnic Bantus are not eradicated.

That country would start to disintegrate if Neftegna and TPLF manage to come back. But better TPLF>Ye genma Neftegnas. My wish is if any democratic person be a leader from any ethnic group, but Neftegna, Gallas and TPLF.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 07 Aug 2020, 12:42

eden wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 08:43
You fanatics won't be satisfied with an Angel let alone Mustefe. Bereket Simon told Abiy you can't satisfy a mob. That's why you react this way. Abiy gives you something and you keep asking for more and more and more. Abiy is fed up with your fanatical demand to ignore all views expect your view.
Bereket who? lol yeah ..you impress me always who you cite to back up your jokes. :mrgreen: The other day it was Semhal Meles and today it is ... :mrgreen: You seem to gravitate to the politics of fanaticism at every turn and bring about here-says that confirm to your TPLF drama. In your fanatical world view, holding a government accountable for beheading of a pregnant woman, whose only fault was being Christian Amhara, by a rowdy mob is asking for the sky to let loose. Fanatics of your sort are the reason why we are in such a decadence of moral order to begin with. Time is fast approaching tho, for your kinds to reap what you sow. People like you with no moral compass are the last ones to stick their fingers in such matters of fanatical barbarism that you help making an acceptable norm. Next time ...Ararssa and Gebissa of Dimtsi Woyane will be your sources to cite from for sure :mrgreen:

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by DefendTheTruth » 07 Aug 2020, 13:00

kibramlak wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 09:12
Abiy will not escape from being held responsible for the premeditated genocide. In legal terms, premeditated attacks are serious crimes. The ethnic savage Bantus were prepared before hand such us by pre-listing and screening the names of the people they are going to kill, the houses to burn, and the properties to damage or to take control. These are all the legacies of savage subhuman ethnic politics
Before a year you were accusing him of killing the government officials killed in Bahrdar, now you seem to no more raising such accusation, sort of you have licked back what you have already spit, shameless.

Now you accuse him of premediated genocide, but do you even know the meaning of a genocide?

If there is a genocide, then against which people was that committed in purpose and actual terms?

Can you present a figure in support of your accusations? (mind you you have to present two key points here: the group against which the genocide was perpetrated and the acutal figure of the crime being committed).

Baldi-ras!

Hedi na ye anten chereQa bet genba, ganbo ras! COVID-ChereQa is more deadly to the people of Ethiopia than COVID-19, this is fact.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 07 Aug 2020, 13:05

gagi , you are correct. You objectively explained the problem Abiy inherited. Why you are correct, not the others who wrote here above ? You are the only one who evaluated Ethiopian politics from the national angle. The others are tribalists , and some of them amazingly Amhara tribalists.
Yes, Abiy will get a hit from all corners. The Oromo extremists call him the Menilik soldier, and the Amhara tribalists, who swear day and night their devotion to one Ethiopia, call him an OLF in disguise. The guy cannot get a break, and should not expect to get one. Tribalism has metastasized for three decades, and even those who day they detest it do not know they become a “ victim” of it.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by kibramlak » 07 Aug 2020, 14:29

DTT,

What else other witnesses are needed other that the voices, videos, and images of victines and all sorts of damages? You can find it all over in YouTube, after transmissions of local TVs, including government owned. Why am saying all this ? Because as of today, the ones who were arrested due to their involvement of shooting unarmed passerbys are released. The strategy of tamming qerros and olf criminals at the cost of ethnic cleaning is the most pathetic leadership one can have ever. I can't tech you if you dont know what genocide means. You can get it from wikipedia, read it and come back to prove me wrong. Its not only about numbers, but also acts, methods, and intentions of the whole processes.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 13:00
kibramlak wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 09:12
Abiy will not escape from being held responsible for the premeditated genocide. In legal terms, premeditated attacks are serious crimes. The ethnic savage Bantus were prepared before hand such us by pre-listing and screening the names of the people they are going to kill, the houses to burn, and the properties to damage or to take control. These are all the legacies of savage subhuman ethnic politics
Before a year you were accusing him of killing the government officials killed in Bahrdar, now you seem to no more raising such accusation, sort of you have licked back what you have already spit, shameless.

Now you accuse him of premediated genocide, but do you even know the meaning of a genocide?

If there is a genocide, then against which people was that committed in purpose and actual terms?

Can you present a figure in support of your accusations? (mind you you have to present two key points here: the group against which the genocide was perpetrated and the acutal figure of the crime being committed).

Baldi-ras!

Hedi na ye anten chereQa bet genba, ganbo ras! COVID-ChereQa is more deadly to the people of Ethiopia than COVID-19, this is fact.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 07 Aug 2020, 15:54

The administration is busy arresting those who reported about the carnage and releasing those who promoted it. It is busy arresting those who speak-out for people to defend themselves against unprovoked aggression.They are busy trying to cover up the daylight massacre of civilians.This would have to the least, been considered as obstruction of justice...if we were a country where rule of law prevails. Alas!

Now tell me how this helps propelling the "Lewut" forward. We should not be kidding ourselves in believing that deflecting and exporting blames are singes of excellent leadership. Those murdered by the mob could be from different ethnic background but, they were murdered because of an unfortunate perception of them as "neftegnas". The killers with no doubt ,are from one kind of mob, the Qerro mob. I don't discount the agitators from the shadow thou, in helping craft the narrative and paving the ground for such heinous barbarism to take place. The proverbial ostriches will soon find out when they are the targets in the queue. Martin Niemoller....rings a bell? ohh no ...we still are better?? :mrgreen: ya shall see!!!

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by kibramlak » 07 Aug 2020, 16:55

Za-Iimaknun,

Thats what's happening lately. When they knew that serious crimes are committed, they started to cover it up. To do so, they started intimidating those speaks out on what has happened to themselves and others. I have no doubt that Abiy and Shimeles are reading to eachother. Its unbelievable to see the criminals released and walking free on the street. GERD/Green legacy drama will not cover up the crimes committed under the passive (maybe deliberate) watch of Abiy himself
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 15:54
The administration is busy arresting those who reported about the carnage and releasing those who promoted it. It is busy arresting those who speak-out for people to defend themselves against unprovoked aggression.They are busy trying to cover up the daylight massacre of civilians.This would have to the least, been considered as obstruction of justice...if we were a country where rule of law prevails. Alas!

Now tell me how this helps propelling the "Lewut" forward. We should not be kidding ourselves in believing that deflecting and exporting blames are singes of excellent leadership. Those murdered by the mob could be from different ethnic background but, they were murdered because of an unfortunate perception of them as "neftegnas". The killers with no doubt ,are from one kind of mob, the Qerro mob. I don't discount the agitators from the shadow thou, in helping craft the narrative and paving the ground for such heinous barbarism to take place. The proverbial ostriches will soon find out when they are the targets in the queue. Martin Niemoller....rings a bell? ohh no ...we still are better?? :mrgreen: ya shall see!!!

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by kibramlak » 07 Aug 2020, 17:09

gagi,

What does it mean for you if you see the members of the qerro mobs who were held because they found shooting red handed are released and walk free on the street ? And on the other hand, as it became clearer to the government that serious crimes of genocide are committed, they start to intimidate and coverup any further witnesses.

I agree on the fact that one can make the balance sheet to decide and act on different situations. However, there are also moments and opportunities one must not miss. For instance, Abiy missed every great opportunity (even at the cost of Hunan lives) to ban ethnic fanatics. In reality, he has always been passive, never tried to act. We may not change the ethnic hatred implemented in the reign of ethnic tplf. However, Abiy could use those unfortunate opportunities to act on and move on to the right direction
gagi wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 10:20
So you want Abiy to change a highly ethnicized Ethiopia in 2 years time? Abiy sees the bigger picture. He does not take knee-jerk reactions. That is a mark of a wise leader who has his country’s integrity at heart. You cannot do away with ethnic politics in Ethiopia. You try taming it. Abiy knows the limits of his power. This is a man who managed to keep the multi-ethnic army in tact amidst all this madness. He is absolutely right to keep away the army or let it have a limited role only among this mess which is the result of a deliberate 27 year old act of evil by the TPLF in sowing division and hatred among the different peoples of Ethiopia.

Abiy is the right leader for the time and the situation we are in. Support Abiy, allow him to consolidate! The alternative is a catastrophe.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by gagi » 07 Aug 2020, 17:28

Kibremlak,

It means great injustice to me. I feel the anguish.

However, I also understand how Abiy is waking on thin ice. He needs to carefully steer this fragile and seriously sick country. He is trying, in many ways, to take this country away from this diabolical path instilled, institutionalized by the TPLF traitors.

Therefore, blaming strenuously, and cornering Abiy, will make him weaker, not stronger. It is seeing beyond the now. The immediate sense of justice that we wish to see should be balanced with the long-term strategic interests of the country.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by Sadacha Macca » 07 Aug 2020, 18:16

and you think mustafe would be better, based on what, his rosy speeches?
do you think he is corruption free in his region?

and this is coming from an oromo, who isn't exactly a fan of abiy, but i am trying to be objective here, and also see the logic behind some of our amhara friends reasoning.

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by Hawzen » 07 Aug 2020, 18:43

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 13:05
gagi , you are correct. You objectively explained the problem Abiy inherited. Why you are correct, not the others who wrote here above ? You are the only one who evaluated Ethiopian politics from the national angle. The others are tribalists , and some of them amazingly Amhara tribalists.
Yes, Abiy will get a hit from all corners. The Oromo extremists call him the Menilik soldier, and the Amhara tribalists, who swear day and night their devotion to one Ethiopia, call him an OLF in disguise. The guy cannot get a break, and should not expect to get one. Tribalism has metastasized for three decades, and even those who day they detest it do not know they become a “ victim” of it.
Great analysis as always. I agree with you and brother gagi!!!

In my opinion, Ethiopia's main problems are as follows and in order:

1. The terrorist TPLF group hiding in Mekelle holes. As soon as the Abby's government apprehends the handful of TPLF criminals, we will definitely see a much clam and stabilized Ethiopia.. TPLF criminals have been spending millions from the money they stole to destabilize Ethiopia. TPLF terrorist group still have the dream to make Ethiopia like Syria if they succeed. In my opinion, Dr. Abby' Government should definitely prioritize to take care the handful of TPLF criminals.

2. Oromo Extremists. Obbo Jawar's extremist group might seam problem only to Federal government at the moment. Unfortunately, they will be a much worse problem to their Oromia killil and specially Christian Oromos. In my opinion, I don't see Ethiopia becoming like Syria just because of Oromo extremists... However, I clearly see Oromia Killil becoming like Syria...Look at where innocent people have been beheaded, hanged and killed because of their religion..It is Oromia!!! Not only that, Obbo Jawar's extremist group don't even realize that they have been destroying business and building in their own killil. Sad!!

3. Amhara tribalists. I understand these group don't have the dream to make Ethiopia like Syria. Neither do they the history of beheading or hanging or killing people because of their religion. But they should definitely quit the mentality that only them are Ethiopians....By the way, they have some similarities with Oromo extremists.. When Amhara killed Amhara over a year ago, they did not feel shame to blame the Noble Peace Prize Winner Honorable Prime Minister Dr. Abby Ahmed as conspiracy....No!!! General Asamenew Tsige Killed President Ambachew and other Amhara officials and they know it!! This is the same as the Oromo extremists in collaboration with TPLF criminals killing their own Oromo brother, the Freedom fighter and pride of Oromia Artist Hachalu Hundessa... Today, they don't have shame to blame Dr. Abby Ahmed or "Neftegna".

Let me make one thing very clear. There is no question that the Somali President Mustefe will be a wonderful Ethiopian Prime Minister one day.. In fact, I hope he replaces Dr. Abby after the Noble Prize Winner completes his two terms.. By then he will have enough experience to lead Ethiopia. By the way, he is such a very smart leader who clearly knows how evil and dangerous TPLF criminals are to Ethiopia and Ethiopians. But.. let's be honest, Ethiopians needs the God sent Prime Minister Dr. Abby at this critical time in its history. I understand TPLF terrorist group, Oromo extremists and Amhara tribalists will not be happy with my comments.. but who cares as long as the majority of Ethiopians are happy with the Nobel Peace Prize Winner Dr. Abby Ahmed.

God bless the people of Ethiopia and Dr. Abby led Ethiopia.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF

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Re: Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Ethiopia

Post by sun » 07 Aug 2020, 19:22

tolcha wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 11:43
kibramlak wrote:
07 Aug 2020, 07:37
Get rid off Abiy/OPDO and bring Mustefe to lead Erhiopia. Leadership is not the bloods of the barbaric subhumans. With a closer scrutiny, am questioning Abiy's leadership skills. Forget about the subhuman galls who are surrounding him. Sources close to the matter say Takele is immersed in total corruption through his own family networks. They try to cheat by decorating Addis. But in reality, what they do from the background is another story. This country will never heal as long as these ethnic Bantus are not eradicated.

That country would start to disintegrate if Neftegna and TPLF manage to come back. But better TPLF>Ye genma Neftegnas. My wish is if any democratic person be a leader from any ethnic group, but Neftegna, Gallas and TPLF.
Really? :lol: :lol:

What are the measures your imagined democracy (please don't say that it is the right to kill at any time and any place, no question asked) :P and what would be the qualifying abilities of the leader you are seeking outside the stable majorities.

Hopefully you may not say let it be My old baabaa to become a leader as well as a puppet walking bare feet on the long carpet. Even Hitler claimed to be a democrat and then cheated the masses by getting elected to the position of the head of state. The rest is history. So please be careful for god's sake so as to not behaving like the green snake, not to recommend your own Democrat who may become Chancellor Adolf after being elected. For your information no one is more democratic than the current sitting Prime Minister who made Mamma Oromiya and Mamma Ethiopia to become known positively world wide for the first time in 3000 years of Ethiopian history. This is what makes you moan,cry, rant,etc, because you are filled with jealousy, envy, paranoid rain bow chasing competitions
. :lol: :lol:

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